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Steve doesn't love him anymore!!

In an interview with the Corriere della Sera newspaper in Italy, excerpts of which were published this weekend by Breitbart, Bannon criticised Musk’s embrace of some forms of immigration and vowed to ensure that Musk does not have top-level access to the White House.

“He is a truly evil guy, a very bad guy. I made it my personal thing to take this guy down,” Bannon said. “Before, because he put money in, I was prepared to tolerate it – I’m not prepared to tolerate it any more.”
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Hugo wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:33 am
dpedin wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:21 am
Hugo wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:14 pm

The thing you are not really grasping is that there is no reason to believe in any of the institutions who are entrusted with protecting children.

It's like believing someone who has lied to you dozens of times is now telling the truth.

Every institution in Britain has some previous with regards to paedophile behaviour - BBC, police, Prince Andrew, C of E, Labour party - and the common denominator is their concern for protecting the reputation of the institution over justice for the kids.

The opportunity for dealing with this in house has been and gone. There needs to be a forensic inquiry into this conducted by a neutral international body. Getting compromised bodies to conduct their own investigation is the classic fox guarding henhouse scenario. It is the Vatican model for dealing with child abuse.
Interesting you mention the Labour Party but not the Conservatives - home to Tractor Porn Parrish, Pincher by Nature, Groper Khan and a 15 yo boy, coked up sex pest Warburton, Wife Raper Griffiths, Sex Pest Elphicke, another Sex Pest Roberts, Fondler Fallon, Sextpest Crabb, Sugar Tits Garnier and Porno Green plus others which remain anonymous. Oh and dont forget the Blonde Bumbelcunt himself and his dodgy parties in Italy courtesy of Lebedev. Yes there are also Labour MPs and others who have stood down/been sacked for sex related behaviors but the Tories set a blistering pace in the race to the bottom.

So where is this International body going to be coming from? France home of the Pellicot case, Belgium with a track record of paedo rings at highest levels of Gov, US with an incoming sex offender President who boasts of sexually assaulting women and home to states who allow men to marry 14 year olds, Italy home of the Catholic Church possibly the single largest organization of paedophilies, Ireland - see Italy? You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think the UK is any different to the rest of the world or that an international body drawn from other countries could investigate the UK when they all have their own issues on this topic and possibly are just as compromised.

I believe we had made steps forward with the various reviews of CSE and group based CSA in the last 10 years but failed to actually implement almost all of the recommendations. I wonder why the last Gov didnt want to implement them? It is ironic that the one person who is trusted by almost everyone of all political parties to speak out against women and children abuse and has done so for years, Jess Phillips, has been targeted for awful abuse by the right wing nutters such as Musk. Again I wonder why? Perhaps it is because he and his IT mates hate the idea of regulation of their social media platforms and see Phillips, and Starmer, along with the EU as a huge risk to their unfettered freedoms to peddle filth on their networks? Their current attacks by Musk and the changes by META are not about seeking to stop CSA it is the opposite, they want to stop the UK Gov and the EU introduce and implement stricter regulatory frameworks on social media and to hold their organizations accountable the easiest way of doing this is to try and take down the individuals and organizations pushing these through! Look at their attacks on Brazil and Australia.

Let's just get on and implement the Jay Report recommendations in full, they are not perfect but will make a big impact and build from there. We do have many others like Phillips who are trusted across our institutions who can and should be trusted to get on with the job and implement the various recommendations. It will take time and meet resistance along the way but the likes of Phillips, Jay, etc should be given everything they need to take this forward asap. Lets just feckin get on with it!!!
Rape has an exceptionally low conviction rate - less than 5% of alleged rapes end in a successful prosecution. So, in essence it is a low risk crime for a perpetrator. Therefore the goal has to be preventing rapes in the first place because once they happen the odds of the victim getting justice are slim. In the meantime they will have to live with that trauma for a very long time, maybe they will be scarred for life.

In order to bring the overall number of rapes down authorities have to be accurate in everything they do and cannot afford to be lackadaisical in their approach. That means in terms of communication, sentencing, investigations and so on and so forth. Providing cover to rapists is the polar opposite of that. Inaction can be construed as tacit permission granting, silence is complicity and all that.

So it is that from the time the Rotherham story first made headlines in The Times to when Musk began obsessively tweeting about this over 10 years has elapsed and during that time rapes and sexual assaults have risen to their highest levels since records were kept on the crime. 2022 was a record year and 2023 surpassed that.

Labour made a pre election promise to expedite the handling of rape cases so that backlogs could be addressed. They have since reneged on that promise because I don't think they have the resources to deliver on what they said they were going to do. They aren't willing to hold a national enquiry either and as you say the Tories are not blameless.

At a certain point if governments can't get a handle on this particular problem and start making inroads into it they will lose legitimacy and people will be willing to go to extreme lengths to do what the state either can't do or chooses not to. I believe the riots last summer after the Southport killings were an expression of that sentiment.

As fashionable as it is to say billionaires are a threat to democracy it is also true that ineffective or corrupt politicians also undermine democracy. Instead of always deflecting away from their responsibilities and pinning it on the likes of Musk or the far right they need to start owning their part in the mess and give people something to believe in. The Liverpool MP Dan Carden seems to have called for a full accounting of the status quo and I hope that others in Parliament follow suit.
Rape is a heinous crime and the conviction rates are deplorable. However this is different set of sexual abuse crimes from the CSA and group based CSA we were discussing.

As you say Labours promises on increasing rate of rape prosecutions seem to have faltered, mainly due to lack of lawyers and issues with criminal casework payments - see attached article.Both these issues will take a bit of time to resolve. Having spent a little bit of time in my varied career working with FME (Forensic Medical Examiners) in a bit of Scotland, they are the docs who have to go and collect clinical evidence from offenders and victims, I wouldn't underestimate the complexities in gathering evidence to support a rape claim.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... of-lawyers

In terms of children the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill is making good progress - for a summary see attached.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _Notes.pdf

Progress on implementing the Jay Report recommendations has been slow - see attached. The cynical amongst us would the previous Gov were slow to pick them up as the potential bill to pay for compensation would run into the many millions and as with the Post Office Scandal, Infected Blood and Nuclear Test Victim scandal the previous Gov had put away didddly squat to pay for any of these ... hence the huge black hole!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m ... up%20abuse.

I am not really sure what you expect a new Gov to have done in the last 6 months of being in power and having inherited a shit show in terms of finances and public services?
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Lettuce Liz is trying to cozy up to Musk now, poor Liz, doesn't realise that Musk has never even heard of her
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sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:19 pm Lettuce Liz is trying to cozy up to Musk now, poor Liz, doesn't realise that Musk has never even heard of her
Can't help thinking she might have done quite well if she was a US politician.

eta: by that I mean not get kicked out on her arse when her idiocy was properly rumbled.
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Meta want to replace mid level engineers with AI.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2521499/zu ... -this-year
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:45 pm Meta want to replace mid level engineers with AI.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2521499/zu ... -this-year
Good luck with that.
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:45 pm Meta want to replace mid level engineers with AI.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2521499/zu ... -this-year
Lmao okay
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It's a bad idea, but I imagine there'll be some painful job losses before the higher ups (Zuck) accept it. Look at the metaverse flop and the bizarre attempt to bring back smart glasses in partnership with Rayban.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:08 pm It's a bad idea, but I imagine there'll be some painful job losses before the higher ups (Zuck) accept it. Look at the metaverse flop and the bizarre attempt to bring back smart glasses in partnership with Rayban.
Trump isn't even in the door and the tech oligarchs are falling over themselves too outdo each other in pseudo Randian cuntiness. We might laugh but this will embolden others in attempting to ape that cuntiness.

What is their end game here?
99% of the globe living like this and the remainder buying their produce?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrylgvr77jo
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Uncle fester wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:31 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:08 pm It's a bad idea, but I imagine there'll be some painful job losses before the higher ups (Zuck) accept it. Look at the metaverse flop and the bizarre attempt to bring back smart glasses in partnership with Rayban.
Trump isn't even in the door and the tech oligarchs are falling over themselves too outdo each other in pseudo Randian cuntiness. We might laugh but this will embolden others in attempting to ape that cuntiness.

What is their end game here?
99% of the globe living like this and the remainder buying their produce?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrylgvr77jo
It's remarkable how they are all falling into line, and all the time the true MAGA are getting slowly screwed.
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Slick wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:41 am
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:31 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:08 pm It's a bad idea, but I imagine there'll be some painful job losses before the higher ups (Zuck) accept it. Look at the metaverse flop and the bizarre attempt to bring back smart glasses in partnership with Rayban.
Trump isn't even in the door and the tech oligarchs are falling over themselves too outdo each other in pseudo Randian cuntiness. We might laugh but this will embolden others in attempting to ape that cuntiness.

What is their end game here?
99% of the globe living like this and the remainder buying their produce?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrylgvr77jo
It's remarkable how they are all falling into line, and all the time the true MAGA are getting slowly screwed.

Which would be fine if they were the only ones getting screwed - they voted for it after all, but just like the Brexit twats, everyone suffers because of their inability, or unwillingness, to see through the con.
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“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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Musk gaming boasts picked apart rather nicely

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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:45 pm Meta want to replace mid level engineers with AI.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2521499/zu ... -this-year
<nerd hat on>

My day-to-day programming IDE recently got an AI helper bolted on, & I have to say it is very good at code completion, & saves a fair bit of typing, & I've used co-pilot a few times myself to get blocks of code to get me started on something.

The problem is generally when this AI code meets something written by a human !

I work a lot with AWS APIs, & every fucking one of them has a slightly different syntax, & the data structures returned are different, & that's before you take the churn in versions into account. So while the AI can do a decent job writing code for 80% of the time, it won't be good enough for the 20% that counts, & that's where humans are needed.

The AI also seems to never have considered the coding standards that the rest of us have to adhere to, so simple stuff like decent, consistent, variable naming, & comments etc don't exist, so code maintenance on anything written by AI is a bloody nightmare.
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BBC are going all-in on Musk. I watched 2 different news bulletins and heard 1 radio show and each time the BBC host tried to bring Musk into the conversation when he had absolutely nothing to do with it! :crazy:

Fortunately 2 of the 3 guests just batted it away. :clap:
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Well then...
(play the video, it's not just a single "unfortunate" frame capture)

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He's completely off his tits on ketamine.

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BMW UK have left Twitter.
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Might be a lot of German companies doing that in particular
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Is his mental age about 13?

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Displayed against the side of the gigafactory in Berlin

Done by activists, but it says something when I was prepared to assume he'd done it himself.
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inactionman wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:36 am Image

Displayed against the side of the gigafactory in Berlin

Done by activists, but it's says something when I was prepared to assume he'd done it himself.
Led by donkeys. I think.,
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:53 am BMW UK have left Twitter.
As soon as the SRU, Embra and the Weegies move to Bluesky then my Twitter account is closing down!
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dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:09 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:53 am BMW UK have left Twitter.
As soon as the SRU, Embra and the Weegies move to Bluesky then my Twitter account is closing down!
There are people making the point to government that by only posting on twitter, they're giving a competitive advantage to a private enterprise.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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RFU - as England Rugby - have a bluesky account but nothing posted on it as yet.
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inactionman wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:20 pm RFU - as England Rugby - have a bluesky account but nothing posted on it as yet.
Hopefully the SRU will be getting the message soon! Bluesky is a bit like the old days of Twitter - it's a bit like coming here after the shitshow of the other place we used to belong to!
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dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:22 pm
inactionman wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:20 pm RFU - as England Rugby - have a bluesky account but nothing posted on it as yet.
Hopefully the SRU will be getting the message soon! Bluesky is a bit like the old days of Twitter - it's a bit like coming here after the shitshow of the other place we used to belong to!
Yep. And most people over there seem incloned to just block rather than argue with trolls and/or fuckwits. And the algorithm doesn't reward engagement, so doesn't over promote the arseholes.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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German authorities will allow those protests right up until he shuts that factory in a fit of pique
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Yeeb wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:16 pm German authorities will allow those protests right up until he shuts that factory in a fit of pique
It's not open AFAIK

You should all try mastodon if you want the old day twitter without adds or algorithm.

Bluesky already has harassment issues. (a belgian journalist / fact checker I follow got hounded of twatter then of bluesky...)
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laurent wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:43 pm
Yeeb wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:16 pm German authorities will allow those protests right up until he shuts that factory in a fit of pique
It's not open AFAIK

You should all try mastodon if you want the old day twitter without adds or algorithm.

Bluesky already has harassment issues. (a belgian journalist / fact checker I follow got hounded of twatter then of bluesky...)
I lasted 48 hours on BlueSky, full of smug arseholes, just a different type
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Slick wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:47 pm
laurent wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:43 pm
Yeeb wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:16 pm German authorities will allow those protests right up until he shuts that factory in a fit of pique
It's not open AFAIK

You should all try mastodon if you want the old day twitter without adds or algorithm.

Bluesky already has harassment issues. (a belgian journalist / fact checker I follow got hounded of twatter then of bluesky...)
I lasted 48 hours on BlueSky, full of smug arseholes, just a different type
Ah thought you’d be fine there



*smug*
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Yeeb wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:57 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:47 pm
laurent wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:43 pm

It's not open AFAIK

You should all try mastodon if you want the old day twitter without adds or algorithm.

Bluesky already has harassment issues. (a belgian journalist / fact checker I follow got hounded of twatter then of bluesky...)
I lasted 48 hours on BlueSky, full of smug arseholes, just a different type
Ah thought you’d be fine there



*smug*
:lol: :clap:
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dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:09 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:53 am BMW UK have left Twitter.
As soon as the SRU, Embra and the Weegies move to Bluesky then my Twitter account is closing down!
I've been busy transferring follows from my xitter to blue sky and I've noticed that a lot of rugby accounts don't seem to have a blue sky presence.
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:06 am
dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:09 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:53 am BMW UK have left Twitter.
As soon as the SRU, Embra and the Weegies move to Bluesky then my Twitter account is closing down!
I've been busy transferring follows from my xitter to blue sky and I've noticed that a lot of rugby accounts don't seem to have a blue sky presence.
Well I am on mastodon (rugby community is thin there but it gets more busy around the internationals )
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