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I like this man.

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Build that ... Iron Dome? To protect against what?! How about start with making ordinary people's lives better then see if there's money left for pointless legacy projects.

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Enzedder wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:23 pm is this true? Just a twatter post.
Thousands of immigrants have simply disappeared and not turned up for work...thats the food pickers.

Eggs rose 37 percent this week in US shops as supply to retailers slumped...bread and vegetables are also rising as supply hubs realise the produce coming in is simply insufficient to meet demand...the shelves are emptying.
The eggs are because of H5N1
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Is this the first January 6th convict to be pardoned who's got into trouble again? (His prison time had ended in July, so not that he was just released and got himself killed, but ... )

https://fox59.com/indiana-news/jan-6-ri ... ng-arrest/
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Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:30 pm
Doesn't matter, Trump's cultists will blame DEI, or Canada, or the WEF elite or trans people, or frankly anything they can think of.
The next forever war. Neocons fecked it up 20 years ago but all you really need is a cult of personality and the will to believe.

Until it too fecks up - but Christ knows where we'll be by then.
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TB63 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:30 pm
I would love to see Kennedy or the Fox talking doll try to define exactly what is meant by "gain of function".
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He's going to announce big gas ovens next...

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Niegs wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:54 pm Build that ... Iron Dome? To protect against what?! How about start with making ordinary people's lives better then see if there's money left for pointless legacy projects.

They already have THAAD which is more fit for purpose.
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TB63 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:55 pm He's going to announce big gas ovens next...

Tbf this will appease those who overwhelmingly voted for him, and deporting criminals of foreign origin or status is hardly unique:
France , Germany , Uk - all deport foreign criminals and sometimes remove citizenship like that shamina begum sort. Certain countries like UAE are also pretty swift at deporting criminals whose origins are from another country. Put a cursory glance over western countries jails demographics & nationality and the over-representation is clear (of course that opens up other discussions like fairness of sentencing etc)

Perhaps jail alone is not enough of a deterrent for Trump, needs some kind of linear progression like:
If you are of foreign origin & Get nicked and jailed for speeding = jail
Fraud or tbh = deportation and loss of US citizenship
Murder = deportations and loss of citizenship for perpetrator and spouse and kids
Child Murder = deportations and loss of citizenship for perpetrator and their entire family
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He doesn't seem to be talking about stripping citizenship though, rather just outsourcing their jail time. So pay some 3rd world country to imprison them for their sentence.
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Raggs wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:00 am He doesn't seem to be talking about stripping citizenship though, rather just outsourcing their jail time. So pay some 3rd world country to imprison them for their sentence.
Apologies , was mentally putting 2 cents with 2 cents from another source , hard to keep track of trump tbf

It was from this source , he seems pretty keen on revoking if he can

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-revive ... 54349.html



The paying for the jail stuff is just his usually manner of being seen as a deal maker at every opportunity , wheeling and dealing. Basically a global Del Boy only with cunt dialled up to 11
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Actually maybe we are missing a trick here for the UK:
Cost of looking after an inmate in the UK, £51k a year says Google
With 87k inmates that’s about 4.4bill

Lets says a tenth of those are real serious scumbags with no hope of reform (seems to be 7k on life terms so not too far off the mark).
Could we not pay Rwanda 400mil a year to look after these inmates in Rwanda and make them Rwandan citizens until they die in their cell ? Prisoners backgrounds, citizenship, race etc irrelevant. Fairly sure Rwanda could look after those nice people cheaper.

Nb doesn’t have to be Rwanda, but they seem to be the most forward thinking in administrative outsourcing tenders
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sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:57 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:30 am
convoluted wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:08 pm Been watching the coverage solely on CNN, greatly enjoying their frustrated angst because their normal stunt is to just cut Trump off when he starts dismantling any of their false years-long narratives. But as it was the inauguration then this time they couldn't flick the switch on him.

Trump's two addresses, the official one and then an informal one, would have been the first time that many dedicated CNN viewers had been exposed to the realities of the last four years as Trump firstly indicted the cringing shriveling-up Biden to his face and then later when Trump told how the Jan 6 committee had illegally destroyed the bulk of the given testimony because it cleared Trump. He also reaffirmed that Pelosi had denied his offer of 10,000 troops at the Capitol.

On that latter point I genuinely fear for the mental health of some of our posters when it comes to be revealed that yes, the 2020 election was stolen, that yes, the Jan 6 'insurrection' was staged by the Democrats themselves, that yes, all the bogus civil and federal charges against Trump were coordinated by the White House, that yes, Fauci was responsible for the Covid outbreak, and that yes, the jabs and lockdowns were all about instigating and normalizing control of the populace and had nothing to do with necessity.
Well personally I think it is great that we have attracted Russians to the wonderful game of Rugby - and nice to see that they can post freely on here.
He's a Kiwi, iirc. And one of just two people I have blocked on here because there's no dealing with that kind of drivel. You'd have better luck conversing with a table.

Unfortunately, the internet has global reach and Trumptards have been cultivated in all corners of the globe. A mate of mine has an older half brother in Ireland who's fully fallen down the internet right wing conspiracy hole with a particularly Republican/MAGA slant to it.
Yes - I know - I was having a slight dig at the fact that all of his talking points are proven Russian talking points and a sign of absolute ignorance of anything that is happening in the world at the moment. It was a joke......it was a very poorly crafted and unfunny joke.
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Yeeb wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:17 am Actually maybe we are missing a trick here for the UK:
Cost of looking after an inmate in the UK, £51k a year says Google
With 87k inmates that’s about 4.4bill

Lets says a tenth of those are real serious scumbags with no hope of reform (seems to be 7k on life terms so not too far off the mark).
Could we not pay Rwanda 400mil a year to look after these inmates in Rwanda and make them Rwandan citizens until they die in their cell ? Prisoners backgrounds, citizenship, race etc irrelevant. Fairly sure Rwanda could look after those nice people cheaper.

Nb doesn’t have to be Rwanda, but they seem to be the most forward thinking in administrative outsourcing tenders
Only if the chums and cronies can't make money running the prisons here. Contracts to UK contacts (based offshore for tax purposes) before Johnny Foreigner, please!
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Reasonable chance that RFK Jr won't get through confirmation hearings unscathed.

https://archive.ph/2025.01.28-174746/ht ... IAA7wUH7mU
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Susie Wiles, the incoming chief of staff, led the conversation, listing some of the dozens of executive orders that had been teed up for Trump’s signature once he reclaimed the presidency. She wanted to talk about sequencing, according to a Trump adviser present at the meeting, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. How would he like to stagger the orders over the first few weeks back in office?

“No,” Trump replied, this person told me. “I want to sign as many as possible as soon as we show up. Day one,” he said.

Trump has followed through on the promise of an onslaught, unleashing in his first week more than two dozen executive orders, holding a nearly hour-long news conference and other question-and-answer-filled public appearances, and posting several times a day on social media. Some of this, of course, is in Trump’s nature. He is an inveterate showman whose instincts are to seek attention and dominate the discussion.

But this time around, Trump’s ubiquity is also a deliberate strategy, several of his aides and allies told me. Part of the point is to send a message to the American people that their self-declared “favorite” president is getting things done. The person at the Palm Beach meeting and another Trump adviser, who also requested anonymity to describe private conversations, told me that the White House’s flood of orders and news is also designed to disorient already despairing Democratic foes, leaving them so battered that they won’t be able to mount a cohesive opposition.

Trump’s actions in his first week have been a mix of signal and noise, of distraction and seriousness. He has taken some defeats. But Trump has succeeded, at least, in creating a stark contrast with the quiet of his predecessor, and in (yet again) shifting the nation’s political discourse back toward him. And compared with 2017, the resistance has been far more muted. The Democrats, without an obvious head of the party and still digging out from November’s election disappointment, have yet to make a focused counterargument to Trump, instead getting largely drowned out in the national discourse.
“This is four years in the making. It’s days of thunder. The scale and the depth of this has blown the Democrats out. It’s blown out the media,” Steve Bannon, a former senior White House aide who still informally advises Trump, told me. “He vowed to start fast and now knows what he’s doing. This is a totally different guy than in 2017.”
When Trump left office in disgrace after the January 6, 2021, insurrection, former administration officials, conservative lawyers, and think-tank researchers began drafting orders and legislation—most famously, the Heritage Foundation initiative known as Project 2025—that could act as the foundation of a Trump revival. And after he won, his inner circle made clear that this time the administration would be staffed with true loyalists.

Wiles, who also co-chaired Trump’s campaign, told a closed-door gathering of Republican donors in Las Vegas in the early days of the transition that the president’s first moves would be to reinstate some executive orders from his first term that President Joe Biden had revoked, according one of the Trump advisers and another person familiar with the meeting. Wiles told the private gathering, for a group called the Rockbridge Network, that Trump would begin by withdrawing from the Paris climate treaty and the World Health Organization. Trump, indeed, signed those orders on his first day back in office, but they were only two of the directives to which he affixed his signature—with a giant Sharpie—in ceremonies held at the Capitol; inside a sports arena in Washington, D.C.; and in the Oval Office during his inauguration festivities and in the days that followed.

His executive orders so far have covered immigration, trade, demographic diversity, civil rights, and the hiring of federal workers. Trump ordered DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) programs in the federal government to be eliminated. He curtailed the Department of Justice’s civil-rights investigations. Federal health agencies were ordered to halt public communications. And he moved to expand presidential power by eliminating protections for federal workers—so he could more easily staff agencies with supporters—and by refusing, without citing any legal authority, to uphold the U.S. ban on TikTok despite a unanimous Supreme Court ruling in the ban’s favor.
“The EOs are so much better-executed now,” Bannon told me. “Back in 2017, we were writing things on the back of envelopes. It was like a playground game, shirts and skins. Now they have good people working, real lawyers.”

Some of Trump’s moves have been symbolic, such as one order to rename the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America and another to insist that, even in national times of mourning, flags be flown at full staff on Inauguration Day. Others ordered government reviews—to examine China’s compliance with trade deals, for example, or the feasibility of creating an External Revenue Service to collect tariffs—but might not have real heft. If it was hard to tell the difference between what was real and what was for show, that was by design, the two advisers told me—to make it difficult for Trump’s opponents to focus their outrage.

His aides debated for weeks about how to enact his campaign pledge to pardon the January 6 rioters, whom the incoming president had declared “hostages.” Days before Trump took office, many advisers, including Vice President J. D. Vance, expected that pardons would be issued for many of the offenders but not, at least immediately, for those convicted of violent crimes, including assaulting police officers. But Trump overruled them, issuing a blanket pardon, and he included commutations for the leaders of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, each of whom had been sentenced to more than 15 years in prison for seditious conspiracy. The two Trump advisers said that Trump thought leaving anyone out would invalidate the underpinning of the Capitol riot—his insistence that he won the 2020 presidential election. Trump also decided that any blowback would be manageable
See the funding freeze just got hooked by a federal judge. Disorder by design.
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While I'm sure that's the plan from the Project 2025 hawks, Trump wanting to get shit done Day 1 is because he just wants to get it out of the way so he can play more golf. That's what he's been doing for days now. With entourage and security all staying at Mar a Lago on the taxpayer's dime, of course.
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How long before he gets bored and goes back to what he likes to do on the political front?

Being carnival barking to his adoring cult, before fucking off and leaving them stranded by a stadium 20 miles outside Cousinfuck, Arkansas in the wee hours.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:14 pm While I'm sure that's the plan from the Project 2025 hawks, Trump wanting to get shit done Day 1 is because he just wants to get it out of the way so he can play more golf. That's what he's been doing for days now. With entourage and security all staying at Mar a Lago on the taxpayer's dime, of course.
It is quite refreshing though to see someone at least trying to be seen to be active and productive from day 1 in politics , even if it’s bull in China shop finesse.
Plenty Starmer could have / should have done from day 1 with his mandate and majority.

I also freely admit to cheeky admiration for the brass neck Trump has for his deliberately inflammatory Greenland / gulf of America disruption stuff , it’s kinda a global equivalent of me saying fhhd, saffas are not funny, kiwis chicks ming, pool shitters etc


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Yeeb wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:39 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:14 pm While I'm sure that's the plan from the Project 2025 hawks, Trump wanting to get shit done Day 1 is because he just wants to get it out of the way so he can play more golf. That's what he's been doing for days now. With entourage and security all staying at Mar a Lago on the taxpayer's dime, of course.
It is quite refreshing though to see someone at least trying to be seen to be active and productive from day 1 in politics , even if it’s bull in China shop finesse.
Plenty Starmer could have / should have done from day 1 with his mandate and majority.
That, in and of itself, is not good. Many of trump's wilder plans and edicts have been blocked by the courts, so they're not really accomplishing anything, and ultimately it's just his typical game-show act of throwing a load of shit to confuse and distract.
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inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:45 am
Yeeb wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:39 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:14 pm While I'm sure that's the plan from the Project 2025 hawks, Trump wanting to get shit done Day 1 is because he just wants to get it out of the way so he can play more golf. That's what he's been doing for days now. With entourage and security all staying at Mar a Lago on the taxpayer's dime, of course.
It is quite refreshing though to see someone at least trying to be seen to be active and productive from day 1 in politics , even if it’s bull in China shop finesse.
Plenty Starmer could have / should have done from day 1 with his mandate and majority.
That, in and of itself, is not good. Many of trump's wilder plans and edicts have been blocked by the courts, so they're not really accomplishing anything, and ultimately it's just his typical game-show act of throwing a load of shit to confuse and distract.
Trump is accomplishing chaos. I'm sure plenty of people are making money. Setting up the cronies he wants in positions of power, lining himself up for a third term etc.

Of course, Starmer dumped Rwanda immediately, and was getting a bit of stick for doing quite a lot when he got in, but obviously now that can be forgotten.

Trump seems to be trying to dump everything onto the states, so I guess that way he can't be blamed for any failings, whilst also still being in charge. Once the riots start, he could even go for martial law.
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Raggs wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:53 am
inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:45 am
Yeeb wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:39 am

It is quite refreshing though to see someone at least trying to be seen to be active and productive from day 1 in politics , even if it’s bull in China shop finesse.
Plenty Starmer could have / should have done from day 1 with his mandate and majority.
That, in and of itself, is not good. Many of trump's wilder plans and edicts have been blocked by the courts, so they're not really accomplishing anything, and ultimately it's just his typical game-show act of throwing a load of shit to confuse and distract.
Trump is accomplishing chaos. I'm sure plenty of people are making money. Setting up the cronies he wants in positions of power, lining himself up for a third term etc.

Of course, Starmer dumped Rwanda immediately, and was getting a bit of stick for doing quite a lot when he got in, but obviously now that can be forgotten.

Trump seems to be trying to dump everything onto the states, so I guess that way he can't be blamed for any failings, whilst also still being in charge. Once the riots start, he could even go for martial law.
Yep, following Bannon's advice of flooding the zone with shit - although his wild flurry of legislation isn't, on an individual line item level, always accomplishing very much.

We (well, the American people) can't see - and engage with - the truly important and significant for all of the relatively irrelevant but incendiary. Does he really care what the Gulf of Mexico is called?
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inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:57 am
Raggs wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:53 am
inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:45 am

That, in and of itself, is not good. Many of trump's wilder plans and edicts have been blocked by the courts, so they're not really accomplishing anything, and ultimately it's just his typical game-show act of throwing a load of shit to confuse and distract.
Trump is accomplishing chaos. I'm sure plenty of people are making money. Setting up the cronies he wants in positions of power, lining himself up for a third term etc.

Of course, Starmer dumped Rwanda immediately, and was getting a bit of stick for doing quite a lot when he got in, but obviously now that can be forgotten.

Trump seems to be trying to dump everything onto the states, so I guess that way he can't be blamed for any failings, whilst also still being in charge. Once the riots start, he could even go for martial law.
Yep, following Bannon's advice of flooding the zone with shit - although his wild flurry of legislation isn't, on an individual line item level, always accomplishing very much.

We (well, the American people) can't see - and engage with - the truly important and significant for all of the relatively irrelevant but incendiary. Does he really care what the Gulf of Mexico is called?
I suspect he couldn't point to the Gulf of Mexico on a map!
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dpedin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:52 am
inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:57 am
Raggs wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:53 am

Trump is accomplishing chaos. I'm sure plenty of people are making money. Setting up the cronies he wants in positions of power, lining himself up for a third term etc.

Of course, Starmer dumped Rwanda immediately, and was getting a bit of stick for doing quite a lot when he got in, but obviously now that can be forgotten.

Trump seems to be trying to dump everything onto the states, so I guess that way he can't be blamed for any failings, whilst also still being in charge. Once the riots start, he could even go for martial law.
Yep, following Bannon's advice of flooding the zone with shit - although his wild flurry of legislation isn't, on an individual line item level, always accomplishing very much.

We (well, the American people) can't see - and engage with - the truly important and significant for all of the relatively irrelevant but incendiary. Does he really care what the Gulf of Mexico is called?
I suspect he couldn't point to the Gulf of Mexico on a map!
It wouldn't surprise me, even though he practically lives on it.
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inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:45 am
Yeeb wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:39 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:14 pm While I'm sure that's the plan from the Project 2025 hawks, Trump wanting to get shit done Day 1 is because he just wants to get it out of the way so he can play more golf. That's what he's been doing for days now. With entourage and security all staying at Mar a Lago on the taxpayer's dime, of course.
It is quite refreshing though to see someone at least trying to be seen to be active and productive from day 1 in politics , even if it’s bull in China shop finesse.
Plenty Starmer could have / should have done from day 1 with his mandate and majority.
That, in and of itself, is not good. Many of trump's wilder plans and edicts have been blocked by the courts, so they're not really accomplishing anything, and ultimately it's just his typical game-show act of throwing a load of shit to confuse and distract.
Well I deffo prefer a public servant who actually puts some collar in, but for Trump yes the world would probably be a better place if he did less of his bullshit bit more. His smoke and mirrors and distractions is quite entertaining though, I for one never saw the whole Greenland thing coming for example or sabre rattling against a very small but long standing military ally.
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Yeeb wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:42 pm His smoke and mirrors and distractions is quite entertaining though......
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To be honest, it's not him, it's the collection of Randian monsters who have hitched themselves to his coat tails with the express intention of fucking the machinery of Government so badly that they can point and say, "See, it doesn't work!"

He doesn't do anything, though. He just disrupts the process of normality for the most needy. What productive thing has he ever achieved as President? His achievements are deregulating controls to safeguard citizens, changing laws that suit big business and the church and lowering taxes. His team then work with the numbers to convince everyone that they're better off financially. For someone who is a supposed genius in real estate, what major construction projects has he overseen? He has no ideas, no innovations, no projects.

His ideas this term are ludicrous attention grabbing actions that are sadly grabbing attention: "Invade Greenland!", "Seize Control of the Panama Canal!". He watches Putin and believes his approach is the one to copy in order to assert himself as the dominant world leader. It is always pick on the little guy, the most defenceless. I imagine he is over the moon that France and Denmark are considering sending troops to Greenland, it means he has some relevance on the world stage. He could never achieve that relevance by doing good, productive things, only by being a baby having a tantrum and making threats.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:05 pm To be honest, it's not him, it's the collection of Randian monsters who have hitched themselves to his coat tails with the express intention of fucking the machinery of Government so badly that they can point and say, "See, it doesn't work!"

He doesn't do anything, though. He just disrupts the process of normality for the most needy. What productive thing has he ever achieved as President? His achievements are deregulating controls to safeguard citizens, changing laws that suit big business and the church and lowering taxes. His team then work with the numbers to convince everyone that they're better off financially. For someone who is a supposed genius in real estate, what major construction projects has he overseen? He has no ideas, no innovations, no projects.

His ideas this term are ludicrous attention grabbing actions that are sadly grabbing attention: "Invade Greenland!", "Seize Control of the Panama Canal!". He watches Putin and believes his approach is the one to copy in order to assert himself as the dominant world leader. It is always pick on the little guy, the most defenceless. I imagine he is over the moon that France and Denmark are considering sending troops to Greenland, it means he has some relevance on the world stage. He could never achieve that relevance by doing good, productive things, only by being a baby having a tantrum and making threats.
France sending troops to Greenland ? Do you think they will win ?!
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Trump is a front man designed to deflect, confuse and set a ridiculous extreme agenda whilst the 'clever' guys beaver away in the background asset stripping the US and making a very small group of people very very rich. He is willing to do whatever his paymasters tell him as long as there is an endless supply of golf, coke (both varieties), drugs, young women, Big Macs, diapers, everything painted in lurid gold paint and money, lots of money! Like every dictator he need lots of people telling him how big and powerful he is but sooner or later every trusted henchman will fall foul of his temper and become an enemy.

Think Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolf Hall series as an example of how the White House is being run and you won't be far off, the parallels are many!

More worryingly there is also a strongly influential cohort of quasi religious, radical, right wing, idealogically driven extremists, such as Stephen Miller, who want the US to be run under their own religious version of Sharia Law where women are subjugated, the poor and ill are deemed worthless and put into destitution, anyone non white/aryan are sub human, threats and coercion is the only means to an end and armed force is used against their enemies including their own population if required. These guys really really worry me!
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dpedin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:06 pm Trump is a front man designed to deflect, confuse and set a ridiculous extreme agenda whilst the 'clever' guys beaver away in the background asset stripping the US and making a very small group of people very very rich. He is willing to do whatever his paymasters tell him as long as there is an endless supply of golf, coke (both varieties), drugs, young women, Big Macs, diapers, everything painted in lurid gold paint and money, lots of money! Like every dictator he need lots of people telling him how big and powerful he is but sooner or later every trusted henchman will fall foul of his temper and become an enemy.

Think Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolf Hall series as an example of how the White House is being run and you won't be far off, the parallels are many!

More worryingly there is also a strongly influential cohort of quasi religious, radical, right wing, idealogically driven extremists, such as Stephen Miller, who want the US to be run under their own religious version of Sharia Law where women are subjugated, the poor and ill are deemed worthless and put into destitution, anyone non white/aryan are sub human, threats and coercion is the only means to an end and armed force is used against their enemies including their own population if required. These guys really really worry me!
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Yeeb wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:46 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:05 pm
His ideas this term are ludicrous attention grabbing actions that are sadly grabbing attention: "Invade Greenland!", "Seize Control of the Panama Canal!". He watches Putin and believes his approach is the one to copy in order to assert himself as the dominant world leader. It is always pick on the little guy, the most defenceless. I imagine he is over the moon that France and Denmark are considering sending troops to Greenland, it means he has some relevance on the world stage. He could never achieve that relevance by doing good, productive things, only by being a baby having a tantrum and making threats.
France sending troops to Greenland ? Do you think they will win ?!
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dpedin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:06 pm Trump is a front man designed to deflect, confuse and set a ridiculous extreme agenda whilst the 'clever' guys beaver away in the background asset stripping the US and making a very small group of people very very rich. He is willing to do whatever his paymasters tell him as long as there is an endless supply of golf, coke (both varieties), drugs, young women, Big Macs, diapers, everything painted in lurid gold paint and money, lots of money! Like every dictator he need lots of people telling him how big and powerful he is but sooner or later every trusted henchman will fall foul of his temper and become an enemy.

Think Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolf Hall series as an example of how the White House is being run and you won't be far off, the parallels are many!

More worryingly there is also a strongly influential cohort of quasi religious, radical, right wing, idealogically driven extremists, such as Stephen Miller, who want the US to be run under their own religious version of Sharia Law where women are subjugated, the poor and ill are deemed worthless and put into destitution, anyone non white/aryan are sub human, threats and coercion is the only means to an end and armed force is used against their enemies including their own population if required. These guys really really worry me!
I’ve endured some howling Oliver Cromwell takes in silence in my time, but I draw the line at claiming the man ran the Protectorate on Big Macs and cocaine
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:27 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:06 pm Trump is a front man designed to deflect, confuse and set a ridiculous extreme agenda whilst the 'clever' guys beaver away in the background asset stripping the US and making a very small group of people very very rich. He is willing to do whatever his paymasters tell him as long as there is an endless supply of golf, coke (both varieties), drugs, young women, Big Macs, diapers, everything painted in lurid gold paint and money, lots of money! Like every dictator he need lots of people telling him how big and powerful he is but sooner or later every trusted henchman will fall foul of his temper and become an enemy.

Think Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolf Hall series as an example of how the White House is being run and you won't be far off, the parallels are many!

More worryingly there is also a strongly influential cohort of quasi religious, radical, right wing, idealogically driven extremists, such as Stephen Miller, who want the US to be run under their own religious version of Sharia Law where women are subjugated, the poor and ill are deemed worthless and put into destitution, anyone non white/aryan are sub human, threats and coercion is the only means to an end and armed force is used against their enemies including their own population if required. These guys really really worry me!
I’ve endured some howling Oliver Cromwell takes in silence in my time, but I draw the line at claiming the man ran the Protectorate on Big Macs and cocaine
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Brazil wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:51 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:27 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:06 pm Trump is a front man designed to deflect, confuse and set a ridiculous extreme agenda whilst the 'clever' guys beaver away in the background asset stripping the US and making a very small group of people very very rich. He is willing to do whatever his paymasters tell him as long as there is an endless supply of golf, coke (both varieties), drugs, young women, Big Macs, diapers, everything painted in lurid gold paint and money, lots of money! Like every dictator he need lots of people telling him how big and powerful he is but sooner or later every trusted henchman will fall foul of his temper and become an enemy.

Think Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolf Hall series as an example of how the White House is being run and you won't be far off, the parallels are many!

More worryingly there is also a strongly influential cohort of quasi religious, radical, right wing, idealogically driven extremists, such as Stephen Miller, who want the US to be run under their own religious version of Sharia Law where women are subjugated, the poor and ill are deemed worthless and put into destitution, anyone non white/aryan are sub human, threats and coercion is the only means to an end and armed force is used against their enemies including their own population if required. These guys really really worry me!
I’ve endured some howling Oliver Cromwell takes in silence in my time, but I draw the line at claiming the man ran the Protectorate on Big Macs and cocaine
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Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
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lol this made me laugh. I didn’t actually realise they were related though
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yermum wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:57 pm lol this made me laugh. I didn’t actually realise they were related though
It's a weird one, Oliver's Great Grandad marries Thomas Cromwell's sister and takes her name, which makes him some sort of nephew several times removed.
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