The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[I like neeps]

The issue with Edinburgh now is, why would any half decent manager go there? If they are half decent they will have options, and Edinburgh are now surely seen as a career killer. The likelihood of Edinburgh attracting a name like these is, at least in my opinion, almost nil.

I don't think it needs to be a name necessarily. Just a coaching staff with plans and discipline would be a step up.

Everitt has lost it and if the SRU aren't making plans for his replacement as we speak then they also deserve to go! He has not contributed a single iota of improvement in his time here and indeed has moved us backwards since his arrival. Many players look lost and stumbling about not knowing what to do next , their confidence is shot. For example Bradbury cant go from Bristol player of the season to a stumbling wreck in less than a season? For the good of the game in Scotland, not least the national team, we need at least a vaguely competitive Edinburgh side. They have spent a few bob investing in the squad and it is good enough and big enough to do a lot better - we had any number of guys who have been capped at international level playing on Friday including a couple of ex Lions! I cannot believe Everitt can turn the ship around, I have been pretty vocal that he isnt the coach for us for some time and I am sorry to prove I have been proven right, so better to let go and let an interim coach try their hand.

Everitt was an interim coach after Blair left the SRU in a real hole with a poorly timed resignation and Everitt's contract extension was a matter of well needs must. And Blair was parachuted in early as the players decided they'd had enough of Cockerill.

Ultimately, an interim coach is a bad solution. You need long term planning. Everitt isn't good enough but the issue is the players.

[Kawazaki]

Unlike the Daily Mail to publish absolutel sh*te.

We've won the calcutta cup the last four years, which is more than England have achieved... So maybe they should care a wee bit more?

QED

[Tichtheid]

Who the fuck is Chris Foy?

If that article is anywhere near the truth then English rugby is in a far worse state than I thought, even with all the salary cheating and clubs going bust.

[Simian]

Who the fuck is Chris Foy?

If that article is anywhere near the truth then English rugby is in a far worse state than I thought, even with all the salary cheating and clubs going bust.

yeah... glad it's not just me who thinks 'we are a much better side than recent results against Scotland suggest because we just find it really hard to get up for some six nations games' is a really weird flex

[inactionman]

It's an article in the daily fail. Ignore.

[clydecloggie]

It may reflect even more poorly on England than Scotland, but it's a well-crafted hatchet job. I actually enjoyed reading it.

[Tichtheid]

It's an article in the daily fail. Ignore.

Clickbait, nothing more.

Personally I can't imagine how bad England's preparation has to be if players can't get up for a Six Nations match - it's the second biggest competition they will ever play in.

[Tichtheid]

It may reflect even more poorly on England than Scotland, but it's a well-crafted hatchet job. I actually enjoyed reading it.

It was funny, but I don't even think it could be used to pin on the Scottish dressing room wall, it would be more likely to make players laugh.

[SomersetJock]

Finn and Darcy remain with the squad which is hopeful news,, Ross McCann, Cam Redpath join the squad along with Ali Price fresh from that worldy performance against Zebra last week

[Tichtheid]

Finn and Darcy remain with the squad which is hopeful news,, Ross McCann, Cam Redpath join the squad along with Ali Price fresh from that worldy performance against Zebra last week

McCann and Price will be there to take the training places of Graham and Horne - there is no way they will play on Saturday, I hope. Redpath is replacing Matt Currie who has concussion. Redpath is ahead of Currie in the pecking order but the injuries make Friday night's horror show even worse

[Jock42]

What happened to Horne?

[Tichtheid]

What happened to Horne?

Smack in the puss.

SRU says "George Horne sustained a facial injury during Glasgow’s victory against the Dragons on Sunday afternoon and he is yet to join the team in Spain while he’s assessed by medics at his club."

[Jock42]

What happened to Horne?

Smack in the puss.

SRU says "George Horne sustained a facial injury during Glasgow’s victory against the Dragons on Sunday afternoon and he is yet to join the team in Spain while he’s assessed by medics at his club."

Cheers, must have missed that.

[topofthemoon]

'endless optimism' writes someone who clearly doesn't actually know any Scottish folk...

Scotland win more frequently against teams that are ranked lower than the top sides in the world.

Pretty simple really - and doesn't require a 500 word treatise about how one side is supposedly insanely motivated by historical grievances while the other *checks notes* seemingly can't be arsed.

[Big D]

What happened to Horne?

Smack in the puss.

SRU says "George Horne sustained a facial injury during Glasgow’s victory against the Dragons on Sunday afternoon and he is yet to join the team in Spain while he’s assessed by medics at his club."

You can see his eye closing in the video where he presents Kerr Johnson with his shirt.

[Kawazaki]

'endless optimism' writes someone who clearly doesn't actually know any Scottish folk...

Scotland win more frequently against teams that are ranked lower than the top sides in the world.

Pretty simple really - and doesn't require a 500 word treatise about how one side is supposedly insanely motivated by historical grievances while the other *checks notes* seemingly can't be arsed.

The 6Ns stats for Scotland did shock me a little tbh;

England have won seven titles in the Six Nations era. France, Ireland and Wales have all won six. Scotland have won none. Their last Grand Slam was back in 1990, when the game was still amateur. That is also the last time they clinched a Triple Crown.
In 25 years since Italy joined the European showpiece, Scottish finishing positions have been third – five times, fourth – eight times, fifth – eight times and sixth – four times.

I mean, let's be honest here, that really is shite.

[Slick]

'endless optimism' writes someone who clearly doesn't actually know any Scottish folk...

Scotland win more frequently against teams that are ranked lower than the top sides in the world.

Pretty simple really - and doesn't require a 500 word treatise about how one side is supposedly insanely motivated by historical grievances while the other *checks notes* seemingly can't be arsed.

The 6Ns stats for Scotland did shock me a little tbh;

England have won seven titles in the Six Nations era. France, Ireland and Wales have all won six. Scotland have won none. Their last Grand Slam was back in 1990, when the game was still amateur. That is also the last time they clinched a Triple Crown.
In 25 years since Italy joined the European showpiece, Scottish finishing positions have been third – five times, fourth – eight times, fifth – eight times and sixth – four times.

I mean, let's be honest here, that really is shite.

I sense this is the start of you annual pre match being a gobshite followed by a disappearing act for a couple of weeks when you get stuffed. Such a strange little man child.

[Yr Alban]

Can people please stop putting 50p in the wanker?

[Slick]

Can people please stop putting 50p in the wanker?

[Tichtheid]

Can people please stop putting 50p in the wanker?

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

[Slick]

Can people please stop putting 50p in the wanker?

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

Have to say, without knowing the ins and outs, I'm a bit uncomfortable with Darcy being considered

[inactionman]

Can people please stop putting 50p in the wanker?

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

Graham being available would surprise me, he was clearly sparko and stretchered off after a headknock 2 weeks previously.

Hoping the stretcher was just belt-and-braces risk avoidance.

[SaintK]

Can people please stop putting 50p in the wanker?

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

Graham being available would surprise me, he was clearly sparko and stretchered off after a headknock 2 weeks previously.

Hoping the stretcher was just belt-and-braces risk avoidance.

Any player knocked unconcious should automatically be stood down for a minimum period no matter the return to play protocols.

[Big D]

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

Graham being available would surprise me, he was clearly sparko and stretchered off after a headknock 2 weeks previously.

Hoping the stretcher was just belt-and-braces risk avoidance.

Any player knocked unconcious should automatically be stood down for a minimum period no matter the return to play protocols.

Agreed. In this case 12 days seems too few. Especially when the game will be 1st contact session.

Wouldn't be against both, but especially Graham, sitting out.

[Tichtheid]

Can people please stop putting 50p in the wanker?

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

Have to say, without knowing the ins and outs, I'm a bit uncomfortable with Darcy being considered

I don't think they will take any risks, we've got a couple of options if he's not fit, including shuffling Kinghorn to the wing, playing Jordan at FB, Kyle Rowe can play either position. Dobie can start on the wing and that allows for a 6/2 split that doesn't include a scrum half.

They are going through their 12 day stand down and only taking part in light training. Graham did look bad, but to repeat, I can't see them risking him if there is any doubt.

[Jock42]

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

Have to say, without knowing the ins and outs, I'm a bit uncomfortable with Darcy being considered

I don't think they will take any risks, we've got a couple of options if he's not fit, including shuffling Kinghorn to the wing, playing Jordan at FB, Kyle Rowe can play either position. Dobie can start on the wing and that allows for a 6/2 split that doesn't include a scrum half.

They are going through their 12 day stand down and only taking part in light training. Graham did look bad, but to repeat, I can't see them risking him if there is any doubt.

Completely agree. Only have to look at Russell as evidence.

[Slick]

Graham being available would surprise me, he was clearly sparko and stretchered off after a headknock 2 weeks previously.

Hoping the stretcher was just belt-and-braces risk avoidance.

Any player knocked unconcious should automatically be stood down for a minimum period no matter the return to play protocols.

Agreed. In this case 12 days seems too few. Especially when the game will be 1st contact session.

Wouldn't be against both, but especially Graham, sitting out.

Yeah, and it's only England

[Slick]

Has anyone seen the Kenny Logan try from the Ireland game in 2000 that’s doing the rounds on social media?

The pass from Toony is fucking awesome. Sometimes forget what a player he was

[Biffer]

Has anyone seen the Kenny Logan try from the Ireland game in 2000 that’s doing the rounds on social media?

The pass from Toony is fucking awesome. Sometimes forget what a player he was

I was at that game.

[Slick]

Has anyone seen the Kenny Logan try from the Ireland game in 2000 that’s doing the rounds on social media?

The pass from Toony is fucking awesome. Sometimes forget what a player he was

I was at that game.

[Yr Alban]

It looks like we might well have Darcy and Finn back for Saturday, which would be a bonus. I haven't seen anything official yet, but the noises coming out of the camp to the media are quite hopeful.

Have to say, without knowing the ins and outs, I'm a bit uncomfortable with Darcy being considered

I don't think they will take any risks, we've got a couple of options if he's not fit, including shuffling Kinghorn to the wing, playing Jordan at FB, Kyle Rowe can play either position. Dobie can start on the wing and that allows for a 6/2 split that doesn't include a scrum half.

They are going through their 12 day stand down and only taking part in light training. Graham did look bad, but to repeat, I can't see them risking him if there is any doubt.

The fact that the medical team didn’t put Russell back on when he passed his HIA tells you all you need to know. If they have any concerns at all, Darcy won’t play.

[topofthemoon]

Minimum stand down of 12 days for a player who has being diagnosed with concussion.

Return to play can only begin when a player is symptom free. They have to remain symptom free through each of the 6 stages of the protocol. Finally, they have to pass a comprehensive neurocognitive test. Only then can they recommence full contact training or playing.

This is all monitored daily by medical professionals and treatment is based on the individual player's circumstances & history.

[SaintK]

Minimum stand down of 12 days for a player who has being diagnosed with concussion.

Return to play can only begin when a player is symptom free. They have to remain symptom free through each of the 6 stages of the protocol. Finally, they have to pass a comprehensive neurocognitive test. Only then can they recommence full contact training or playing.

This is all monitored daily by medical professionals and treatment is based on the individual player's circumstances & history.

Thanks

[Slick]

Have to say, without knowing the ins and outs, I'm a bit uncomfortable with Darcy being considered

I don't think they will take any risks, we've got a couple of options if he's not fit, including shuffling Kinghorn to the wing, playing Jordan at FB, Kyle Rowe can play either position. Dobie can start on the wing and that allows for a 6/2 split that doesn't include a scrum half.

They are going through their 12 day stand down and only taking part in light training. Graham did look bad, but to repeat, I can't see them risking him if there is any doubt.

The fact that the medical team didn’t put Russell back on when he passed his HIA tells you all you need to know. If they have any concerns at all, Darcy won’t play.

Yeah, but the fact that Finn passed his HIA suggests the tests are not all that accurate

[Biffer]

I don't think they will take any risks, we've got a couple of options if he's not fit, including shuffling Kinghorn to the wing, playing Jordan at FB, Kyle Rowe can play either position. Dobie can start on the wing and that allows for a 6/2 split that doesn't include a scrum half.

They are going through their 12 day stand down and only taking part in light training. Graham did look bad, but to repeat, I can't see them risking him if there is any doubt.

The fact that the medical team didn’t put Russell back on when he passed his HIA tells you all you need to know. If they have any concerns at all, Darcy won’t play.

Yeah, but the fact that Finn passed his HIA suggests the tests are not all that accurate

I’m still unclear how you test Finn Russell for concussion.

[topofthemoon]

I don't think they will take any risks, we've got a couple of options if he's not fit, including shuffling Kinghorn to the wing, playing Jordan at FB, Kyle Rowe can play either position. Dobie can start on the wing and that allows for a 6/2 split that doesn't include a scrum half.

They are going through their 12 day stand down and only taking part in light training. Graham did look bad, but to repeat, I can't see them risking him if there is any doubt.

The fact that the medical team didn’t put Russell back on when he passed his HIA tells you all you need to know. If they have any concerns at all, Darcy won’t play.

Yeah, but the fact that Finn passed his HIA suggests the tests are not all that accurate

12 minute assessment in the dressing room while a Test match is ongoing compared to daily testing and monitoring while they take each step up in activity through the protocols. Very different things I would suggest.

[SomersetJock]

The problem is that the concussion checks are not an exact science, far from it. While there are some tests that are scored to help make the decision a lot of it is down to the ability of the medic/people around the player watching for signs that something isn’t right.

I gave one of our lads a lift home from a game after he got a concussion recently. Even with no experience and knowledge on what to look for it was blatantly obvious something wasn’t right with him. But according to the medic who was with me that’s not always the case.

[Slick]

The fact that the medical team didn’t put Russell back on when he passed his HIA tells you all you need to know. If they have any concerns at all, Darcy won’t play.

Yeah, but the fact that Finn passed his HIA suggests the tests are not all that accurate

12 minute assessment in the dressing room while a Test match is ongoing compared to daily testing and monitoring while they take each step up in activity through the protocols. Very different things I would suggest.

Oh yeah, I think we are all agreeing mostly. My original comment was that I feel uncomfortable with a bloke knocked sparko playing 13 days later

[KingBlairhorn]

Did we know we are getting a crack at the ABs in the autumn? If we did it had passed me by. Looking forward to it, but we'll have to up our levels again if we are to have a chance.

[Slick]

Did we know we are getting a crack at the ABs in the autumn? If we did it had passed me by. Looking forward to it, but we'll have to up our levels again if we are to have a chance.

Just saw that myself.

A lot of people deride the Haka but when I told my kids this morning that the All Blacks we’re coming to town they were pleading to go to see it