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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:39 pm Your Edinburgh team to play Munster tomorrow evening;

Oh, who gives a fuck? They're only going to get hammered anyway

I can't be arsed posting the team.
The apathy and indifference around the team now is deafening!!! The SRU really need to step up to the plate and do something to turn it around. Scottish rugby, with only 2 pro teams, cannot afford to have one team going down the tubes the way Edinburgh are at the moment. Supporters are disgruntled and voting with their feet, I imagine we will struggle to reach 1,000 crowd for the Sarries friendly. After the friendly we have Dragons, Lions, Sharks and Ulster at home - hardly likely to draw a crowd apart perhaps from the Lions game for a place in the last 8 of the Euro Diddy Cup? Ulster might bring a crowd with them but they are as bad as we are at the moment and by then we will have no chance of getting into the top half of the league?

I cant now watch the feeble excuses from Everitt after every game we lose. He really needs to go!
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Luke Crosby injured his pec in the first 10 seconds in what looked a nothing tackle, hope it is not a Sione injury
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Ref isn't very sympathetic to Edinburgh's scrum dominance.

Munster cutting through the Edinburgh defence a bit too easily as well.
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I don't understand this team.
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Edinburgh pumping Munster away. Bizarre stuff.
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Wasn't expecting this from Edinburgh, not that I am complaining, Munster were getting through them easily but a bonus point by half time. As long as they carry on the same vein in the second
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Fronting up very well. Thompson distributing pretty well, Bradbury showing his Bristol form. Everitt safe for another month.
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Just wait lads, just wait.
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It's, what has become, a stereotypical Embra response to an absolute dire match though. This is about half a dozen such responses this season.
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Jock42 wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:26 pm It's, what has become, a stereotypical Embra response to an absolute dire match though. This is about half a dozen such responses this season.
Yeah. They'll now take the foot off the gas and be utter gubbins in the next game.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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robmatic wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:57 pm Ref isn't very sympathetic to Edinburgh's scrum dominance.

Munster cutting through the Edinburgh defence a bit too easily as well.
That was a bit crazy, was it ten scrum penalties against Munster by the end? How that wasn’t a yellow card I’ll never know, I’ve seen a player yellowed after 4 or 5.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:10 am
robmatic wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:57 pm Ref isn't very sympathetic to Edinburgh's scrum dominance.

Munster cutting through the Edinburgh defence a bit too easily as well.
That was a bit crazy, was it ten scrum penalties against Munster by the end? How that wasn’t a yellow card I’ll never know, I’ve seen a player yellowed after 4 or 5.
I don't think they even got a warning.
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Where did that cone from? Cant decide how much was Edinburgh dominance or Munster ineptitude? Despite complete forward dominance the backs attack still very laboured, disjointed and too far behind the gain line. Venter won that game for Edinburgh almost single handedly. The sight of the Munster scrum being marched backwards was a joy to behold and determined the whole vibe of the game. When does Venter become eligible for Scotland?
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dpedin wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:50 am Where did that cone from? Cant decide how much was Edinburgh dominance or Munster ineptitude? Despite complete forward dominance the backs attack still very laboured, disjointed and too far behind the gain line. Venter won that game for Edinburgh almost single handedly. The sight of the Munster scrum being marched backwards was a joy to behold and determined the whole vibe of the game. When does Venter become eligible for Scotland?
Munster were very, very bad but Edinburgh also put in one of their best performances of the season.

Venter will be eligible for the 2026 Six Nations, although possibly not the first two rounds.
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topofthemoon wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:59 am
dpedin wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:50 am Where did that cone from? Cant decide how much was Edinburgh dominance or Munster ineptitude? Despite complete forward dominance the backs attack still very laboured, disjointed and too far behind the gain line. Venter won that game for Edinburgh almost single handedly. The sight of the Munster scrum being marched backwards was a joy to behold and determined the whole vibe of the game. When does Venter become eligible for Scotland?
Munster were very, very bad but Edinburgh also put in one of their best performances of the season.

Venter will be eligible for the 2026 Six Nations, although possibly not the first two rounds.
Cheers - Venter will be a huge asset to Scottish scrum!
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robmatic wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:37 am
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:10 am
robmatic wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:57 pm Ref isn't very sympathetic to Edinburgh's scrum dominance.

Munster cutting through the Edinburgh defence a bit too easily as well.
That was a bit crazy, was it ten scrum penalties against Munster by the end? How that wasn’t a yellow card I’ll never know, I’ve seen a player yellowed after 4 or 5.
I don't think they even got a warning.
They definitely got warned. I was speed watching after the game but I think they were warned twice the next one would be a yellow card :wtf:
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Glasgow might be in trouble here.
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I’m starting to get a wee bit excited about Oguntibeju. He’s a beast of a man.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:13 pm I’m starting to get a wee bit excited about Oguntibeju. He’s a beast of a man.
He looks much more confident and far fitter in just a few weeks
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Someone was lamenting our lack of lock depth recently but with him, Samuel and Williamson all at Glasgow and all just 22 there is a decent amount coming through. With Cam Henderson, Sykes and Hodgson all 25 and with their best years to come that’s a decent bit of depth to go with the likes of Cummings.
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😂 there were at least 4 Ospreys players offside at the kick off, one literally 10m offside

Actually, just watched it back, I was wrong, they were near enough OK
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I am more and more impressed with Jare Oguntibeju every time I see him play, hopefully Toony picks him to go on the summer tour of the PI's.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:20 pm Someone was lamenting our lack of lock depth recently but with him, Samuel and Williamson all at Glasgow and all just 22 there is a decent amount coming through. With Cam Henderson, Sykes and Hodgson all 25 and with their best years to come that’s a decent bit of depth to go with the likes of Cummings.
Hmm. They are all decent, worthy players, but I don’t see much of that real international dog in any of them. I’m not sure they would be getting into too many other 6N teams
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Slick wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:01 am
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:20 pm Someone was lamenting our lack of lock depth recently but with him, Samuel and Williamson all at Glasgow and all just 22 there is a decent amount coming through. With Cam Henderson, Sykes and Hodgson all 25 and with their best years to come that’s a decent bit of depth to go with the likes of Cummings.
Hmm. They are all decent, worthy players, but I don’t see much of that real international dog in any of them. I’m not sure they would be getting into too many other 6N teams
They are not even displacing 34-year old Grant Gilchrist in the Scotland team yet and he's held together with gaffer tape.
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Slick wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:01 am
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:20 pm Someone was lamenting our lack of lock depth recently but with him, Samuel and Williamson all at Glasgow and all just 22 there is a decent amount coming through. With Cam Henderson, Sykes and Hodgson all 25 and with their best years to come that’s a decent bit of depth to go with the likes of Cummings.
Hmm. They are all decent, worthy players, but I don’t see much of that real international dog in any of them. I’m not sure they would be getting into too many other 6N teams
Williamson's performance vs the Boks was very good. Henderson would be at 30 caps without his two knee injuries. I don't know if Jare will ever be an amazing player but that performance away at Toulon - we don't have anyone else who could do that.
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As far as lock depth is concerned, we certainly have enough coming through not to have to worry about the standard suddenly dropping when the likes of Gilchrist retire. Whether we have the guys to move us up a level remains to be seen.

Wales relied on Alun Wyn Jones to drag them through games for years, and it worked. It’s since he retired they’ve become shite.
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Yr Alban wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:11 pm As far as lock depth is concerned, we certainly have enough coming through not to have to worry about the standard suddenly dropping when the likes of Gilchrist retire. Whether we have the guys to move us up a level remains to be seen.

Wales relied on Alun Wyn Jones to drag them through games for years, and it worked. It’s since he retired they’ve become shite.
Yes, well put
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Tichtheid, is it North Berwick you are involved with?

Does anyone know much about Haddington Rugby Club? My daughter and I are getting a little disillusioned with our current club and met the girls coach yesterday who seemed brilliant.
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Slick wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:30 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:11 pm As far as lock depth is concerned, we certainly have enough coming through not to have to worry about the standard suddenly dropping when the likes of Gilchrist retire. Whether we have the guys to move us up a level remains to be seen.

Wales relied on Alun Wyn Jones to drag them through games for years, and it worked. It’s since he retired they’ve become shite.
Yes, well put
It was more of a comment of depth than quality, the point was we have 5 or 6 international class locks 25 and under. You can add one more to my original list as Euan Johnson has got a move to Bayonne for next season.

I agree it’s not yet clear if any of them will be worldies but at least, as Yr Alban says, there isn’t an obvious quality drop off.
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Slick wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:01 am
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:20 pm Someone was lamenting our lack of lock depth recently but with him, Samuel and Williamson all at Glasgow and all just 22 there is a decent amount coming through. With Cam Henderson, Sykes and Hodgson all 25 and with their best years to come that’s a decent bit of depth to go with the likes of Cummings.
Hmm. They are all decent, worthy players, but I don’t see much of that real international dog in any of them. I’m not sure they would be getting into too many other 6N teams
I've finally realized why there is this hate for POM in Scottish rugby fans .... he's everything you wish you had in your own side; a Leader, & a complete c**t on the pitch, which is exactly what you're lacking at the mo in your forwards.

We'll miss him, 'cause I'm not sure I see what he brings to the table in any of the replacements
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:44 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:01 am
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:20 pm Someone was lamenting our lack of lock depth recently but with him, Samuel and Williamson all at Glasgow and all just 22 there is a decent amount coming through. With Cam Henderson, Sykes and Hodgson all 25 and with their best years to come that’s a decent bit of depth to go with the likes of Cummings.
Hmm. They are all decent, worthy players, but I don’t see much of that real international dog in any of them. I’m not sure they would be getting into too many other 6N teams
I've finally realized why there is this hate for POM in Scottish rugby fans .... he's everything you wish you had in your own side; a Leader, & a complete c**t on the pitch, which is exactly what you're lacking at the mo in your forwards.

We'll miss him, 'cause I'm not sure I see what he brings to the table in any of the replacements

I'd have taken him in an Edinburgh and Scotland jersey in an instant. The closest we have is Jamie Ritchie and he's not quite at that level.

I don't think you have to have an explicit "badness" or "badass" approach if I can put it that way. Jonno was another who wore it on his sleeve, but I think Ritchie McCaw as well as being the GOAT in the backrow was every bit as hard without it being so evident - there was no gnashing of teeth and spittle in opponents' faces. Dusautoir was similar to McCaw.

You definitely have to have a hardness to play top level in the pack, and whilst I don't think our players mind taking it, they don't seem to enjoy dishing it out as much as the best from other teams.
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Tichtheid wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:18 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:44 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:01 am

Hmm. They are all decent, worthy players, but I don’t see much of that real international dog in any of them. I’m not sure they would be getting into too many other 6N teams
I've finally realized why there is this hate for POM in Scottish rugby fans .... he's everything you wish you had in your own side; a Leader, & a complete c**t on the pitch, which is exactly what you're lacking at the mo in your forwards.

We'll miss him, 'cause I'm not sure I see what he brings to the table in any of the replacements

I'd have taken him in an Edinburgh and Scotland jersey in an instant. The closest we have is Jamie Ritchie and he's not quite at that level.

I don't think you have to have an explicit "badness" or "badass" approach if I can put it that way. Jonno was another who wore it on his sleeve, but I think Ritchie McCaw as well as being the GOAT in the backrow was every bit as hard without it being so evident - there was no gnashing of teeth and spittle in opponents' faces. Dusautoir was similar to McCaw.

You definitely have to have a hardness to play top level in the pack, and whilst I don't think our players mind taking it, they don't seem to enjoy dishing it out as much as the best from other teams.
Dare I say; it's almost a throwback to the amateur era, where you could be a complete c**t on the pitch, & then be a completely different person off it, & other players would understand this & love you off the pitch, while hating you on it.

These days you can understand the players, being "Professional"; but when I look at the Leinster guys, they are mostly just focused on their game, & that is understandable, but the dog only seems to come out in the Inter-Pros, & occasionally in those grudge fixtures, where they've a bit of a history. It's a bit of a weakness in their setup if I'm honest, because when they get to critical points in key games, they act mechanically, & that's it; instead of having the mechanical & the emotional.

Some players, like POM, or Bundee are just able to turn it on in any given game & don't need anything else; they just go from 1 to 11 in an instant.
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POM went past being a cunt and was sometimes genuinely dirty.
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Nice little segment from Darcy Graham and his uncle Scott about roots and the importance of connections, hosted by Rory Lawson who of course has his own links with the town

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Is now the appropriate time to start shitting myself about losing to Wales?
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C T wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:02 am Is now the appropriate time to start shitting myself about losing to Wales?
I'm more than a week deep at this point.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:41 am
C T wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:02 am Is now the appropriate time to start shitting myself about losing to Wales?
I'm more than a week deep at this point.
Monday was my jumping off point.
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Nah, we should batter them.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:11 am Nah, we should batter them.
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Should is doing a lot of lifting there. How often have we been beaten by teams we should have cruised past. Wales have been a bogey team for years under Gatland's first term and looked pretty handy against Ireland while we lost against England in a game we should have won easily.

I remain hopeful but nervous.
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