Women's Rugby Thread

[BnM]

What could possibly go wrong

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-64825491

[Slick]

What could possibly go wrong

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-64825491

It's very annoying that just as the women's game is really growing and gaining traction that this is always going to be in the shadows ready to upset things.

[Niegs]

A proper scrap in NRLW! Skip to about 1:50...

[SaintK]

Fantastic result for Ireland Women

Ireland secured a sensational last-gasp 29-27 win over world champions New Zealand in their opening WXV1 match in Vancouver.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-unio ... d65n122o

[Lobby]

Fantastic result for Ireland Women

Ireland secured a sensational last-gasp 29-27 win over world champions New Zealand in their opening WXV1 match in Vancouver.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-unio ... d65n122o

The Irish Women's team now has a positive record against the Black Ferns - Played 3, won 2, lost 1!

[fishfoodie]

Fantastic result for Ireland Women

Ireland secured a sensational last-gasp 29-27 win over world champions New Zealand in their opening WXV1 match in Vancouver.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-unio ... d65n122o

The Irish Women's team now has a positive record against the Black Ferns - Played 3, won 2, lost 1!

Yep, they beat NZ before the men's team achieved it in Chicago too.

[Slick]

Has anyone tried to get WC tickets on the Mastercard priority thing that opened today? The website is only showing me standing tickets as being available for the Scotland games - can't all be sold out already?

[charltom]

Has anyone tried to get WC tickets on the Mastercard priority thing that opened today? The website is only showing me standing tickets as being available for the Scotland games - can't all be sold out already?

I couldn't get tickets for Scotland Canada yesterday evening but have managed to get them this morning. You may find the other matches have more than just standing now. I don't know why!

What I will say though is that the standing section at Sandy Park is actually really good, with a great view, so don't be put off it unless you're with little ones!

[Slick]

Has anyone tried to get WC tickets on the Mastercard priority thing that opened today? The website is only showing me standing tickets as being available for the Scotland games - can't all be sold out already?

I couldn't get tickets for Scotland Canada yesterday evening but have managed to get them this morning. You may find the other matches have more than just standing now. I don't know why!

What I will say though is that the standing section at Sandy Park is actually really good, with a great view, so don't be put off it unless you're with little ones!

Thanks mate. Will be with the kids so need seats really

[laurent]

French Elite1 games are now being broadcast by canal+. Let's hope it brings a it of cash into the women's game.

[Slick]

Women's 6 Nations starts on Saturday and I'm really looking forward to it.

My daughter (6) and I are going to the Wales game at the weekend and there is a whole mob of us going from the school (with parents) for the Ireland game.

She is extremely unimpressed that we are away for Italy.

Anyway, would love to see Scotland win the 3 homes games and give France a run over there, we shall see.

[Slick]

Hate to say it, but Holly having a bit of shocker in the middle so far in the Ireland v France game

[laurent]

Hate to say it, but Holly having a bit of shocker in the middle so far in the Ireland v France game

Not as bad as France was the level of play was atrocious.

[Ovals]

Hate to say it, but Holly having a bit of shocker in the middle so far in the Ireland v France game

Not as bad as France was the level of play was atrocious.

Yeah - I don't think that game will be giving England any sleepless nights.

[laurent]

Hate to say it, but Holly having a bit of shocker in the middle so far in the Ireland v France game

Not as bad as France was the level of play was atrocious.

Yeah - I don't think that game will be giving England any sleepless nights.

60+

[Blackmac]

Scottish ladies dominating possession but completely unable to retain the ball in contact.

[Biffer]

Ref doing everything to help the Welsh girls here. The Scottish player was pushed onto the leg of a Welsh player by another Welsh player. But off for a yellow and review for a red. Utter nonsense.

[Blackmac]

Ref doing everything to help the Welsh girls here. The Scottish player was pushed onto the leg of a Welsh player by another Welsh player. But off for a yellow and review for a red. Utter nonsense.

Wales should have had their first yellow way earlier as well. Constant penalties unpunished. We have been incredibly wasteful though. Easily 4 try opportunities butchered.

Fuck me, that's the most ridiculous red ever.

[Blackmac]

I didn't realise that a player sent off for two yellows could be replaced after 20 minutes.

[Biffer]

I didn't realise that a player sent off for two yellows could be replaced after 20 minutes.

Yeah, we were just asking that. Is that correct under the rules?

[Biffer]

But that's a good win. Great to see our ladies making progress.

[topofthemoon]

I didn't realise that a player sent off for two yellows could be replaced after 20 minutes.

Yeah, we were just asking that. Is that correct under the rules?

Six Nations press release on 20 minute reds states that 2 yellows will now always equal a 20 minute red:

The 20-minute red card applies to technical offences. The offending team can replace the removed player, to punish the player not the team. If the player receives two yellow cards, that equals a 20-minute red card, because if either offence is deemed dangerous or deliberate it would constitute a full and permanent red card.

[Biffer]

I didn't realise that a player sent off for two yellows could be replaced after 20 minutes.

Yeah, we were just asking that. Is that correct under the rules?

Six Nations press release on 20 minute reds states that 2 yellows will now always equal a 20 minute red:

The 20-minute red card applies to technical offences. The offending team can replace the removed player, to punish the player not the team. If the player receives two yellow cards, that equals a 20-minute red card, because if either offence is deemed dangerous or deliberate it would constitute a full and permanent red card.

Yeah, but the second yellow was upgraded to a red. So she had, effectively, two red cards in the game and the Welsh still weren't a player down. That's absolutely fucking mental.

[Biffer]

I didn't realise that a player sent off for two yellows could be replaced after 20 minutes.

Yeah, we were just asking that. Is that correct under the rules?

Six Nations press release on 20 minute reds states that 2 yellows will now always equal a 20 minute red:

The 20-minute red card applies to technical offences. The offending team can replace the removed player, to punish the player not the team. If the player receives two yellow cards, that equals a 20-minute red card, because if either offence is deemed dangerous or deliberate it would constitute a full and permanent red card.

This is an aspect they hadn't considered, obviously.

So it going to be yet another instance where the rules are changed after we've been on the shitty end of something, isn't it.

[topofthemoon]

Yeah, we were just asking that. Is that correct under the rules?

Six Nations press release on 20 minute reds states that 2 yellows will now always equal a 20 minute red:

The 20-minute red card applies to technical offences. The offending team can replace the removed player, to punish the player not the team. If the player receives two yellow cards, that equals a 20-minute red card, because if either offence is deemed dangerous or deliberate it would constitute a full and permanent red card.

Yeah, but the second yellow was upgraded to a red. So she had, effectively, two red cards in the game and the Welsh still weren't a player down. That's absolutely fucking mental.

It wasn't upgraded - remained yellow.

I can't find anything clear on what would happen to a player who gets a yellow and then a 20-minute red to avoid them receiving no difference in punishment from 2 yellows.

[Biffer]

The only other instance I can think of, at international level, where rules clarifications have been issued in the middle of a tournament, is when Dylan Hartley and the big fuckwit who thinks he's some kind of lad didn't understand the laws in the England Italy game.

[Slick]

That was a very powerful Welsh team but they always looked like they would run out of steam and we really should have buried them earlier.

Some real talent in that Scottish backline and we have actually found someone who can kick out of hand which makes a massive difference. Also Rachel Malcolm is absolutely immense.

Anyway, great day out again, my daughter got her ball signed by most of the players and is back home absolutely exhausted but happy

[dkm57]

Good performance by the women

[Blackmac]

That was a very powerful Welsh team but they always looked like they would run out of steam and we really should have buried them earlier.

Some real talent in that Scottish backline and we have actually found someone who can kick out of hand which makes a massive difference. Also Rachel Malcolm is absolutely immense.

Anyway, great day out again, my daughter got her ball signed by most of the players and is back home absolutely exhausted but happy

I thought the new 9 was very slow to a few of the breakdowns but otherwise she did well. They badly miss Wassell in the tight so hopefully she will get back to full fitness.
The game should have been out of sight after 60 minutes but for a lot less of errors in the red zone.

The game suffered from some awful refereeing. How a Welsh player was not binned sooner was extraordinary and the chalked off try for the maul shift was questionable at best.

[Ovals]

That was a very powerful Welsh team but they always looked like they would run out of steam and we really should have buried them earlier.

Some real talent in that Scottish backline and we have actually found someone who can kick out of hand which makes a massive difference. Also Rachel Malcolm is absolutely immense.

Anyway, great day out again, my daughter got her ball signed by most of the players and is back home absolutely exhausted but happy

I thought the new 9 was very slow to a few of the breakdowns but otherwise she did well. They badly miss Wassell in the tight so hopefully she will get back to full fitness.
The game should have been out of sight after 60 minutes but for a lot less of errors in the red zone.

The game suffered from some awful refereeing. How a Welsh player was not binned sooner was extraordinary and the chalked off try for the maul shift was questionable at best.

Really ? I thought that was blatant. It's hard enough to defend mauls as it is, without letting those sort of transgressions go without being called out.

[Blackmac]

That was a very powerful Welsh team but they always looked like they would run out of steam and we really should have buried them earlier.

Some real talent in that Scottish backline and we have actually found someone who can kick out of hand which makes a massive difference. Also Rachel Malcolm is absolutely immense.

Anyway, great day out again, my daughter got her ball signed by most of the players and is back home absolutely exhausted but happy

I thought the new 9 was very slow to a few of the breakdowns but otherwise she did well. They badly miss Wassell in the tight so hopefully she will get back to full fitness.
The game should have been out of sight after 60 minutes but for a lot less of errors in the red zone.

The game suffered from some awful refereeing. How a Welsh player was not binned sooner was extraordinary and the chalked off try for the maul shift was questionable at best.

Really ? I thought that was blatant. It's hard enough to defend mauls as it is, without letting those sort of transgressions go without being called out.

I haven't got it now but it looked like the ball was transferred to a player who was in contact with the jumper and moved very quickly. The commentators called the sand, even the Welsh girl.
It's split second stuff but if I'm honest I would prefer to see a maul roll round like that rather than put up with the legalised obstruction we have now.

[Slick]

That was a very powerful Welsh team but they always looked like they would run out of steam and we really should have buried them earlier.

Some real talent in that Scottish backline and we have actually found someone who can kick out of hand which makes a massive difference. Also Rachel Malcolm is absolutely immense.

Anyway, great day out again, my daughter got her ball signed by most of the players and is back home absolutely exhausted but happy

I thought the new 9 was very slow to a few of the breakdowns but otherwise she did well. They badly miss Wassell in the tight so hopefully she will get back to full fitness.
The game should have been out of sight after 60 minutes but for a lot less of errors in the red zone.

The game suffered from some awful refereeing. How a Welsh player was not binned sooner was extraordinary and the chalked off try for the maul shift was questionable at best.

I thought the ref did OK actually, can’t argue with any of the cards. I did think the TMO was a pain in the arse and the ref was getting a bit tired of the continual interference from him.

On the maul one, I’m not really sure if we need to get that technical from the TMO if none of the on pitch reffing team spot it. But to be fair to the ref, once it has been shown to her she had to penalise it.

[ASMO]

Officiating team for the England v Italy games was possibly one of the worst i have ever seen in any game, just so so poor and clearly out of their depth

[Slick]

It's a bit depressing watching social media and seeing that literally 100% of negative comments about refs, players, teams etc are from men.

[Blackmac]

It's a bit depressing watching social media and seeing that literally 100% of negative comments about refs, players, teams etc are from men.

Most of my mates can't believe that I take such an interest in the Scottish women's game. I really enjoy it, but it does not get the standard of officials that it deserves.

[Lobby]

It's a bit depressing watching social media and seeing that literally 100% of negative comments about refs, players, teams etc are from men.

I did wonder after the England game yesterday if the male TMOs would have intervened to the same extent and at such tedious length if the referees had been men rather than women. At times in the England Italy game it did sound as if the TMO was trying to assert himself and take charge of the whole game. I'm not sure it was necessary for him to disallow all of the 5 tries he did, or to spend so long doing so. His repeated interruptions certainly held up the game and stopped it developing any flow.

The TMO was almost as bad in the Scotland game, although the ref in that game was more experienced and was clearly getting irritated by his constant attempts to impose himself on the game.

[Slick]

Scotland need to calm down and weather this storm or they are going to get overwhelmed

[Slick]

30 mins in and I don’t think the French have put it past the 10, just constant pick and go’s and offloads - they are very good at it but a surprisingly limited game plan

[Blackmac]

Scotland suddenly deciding that tackles are optional.

[Niegs]

30 mins in and I don’t think the French have put it past the 10, just constant pick and go’s and offloads - they are very good at it but a surprisingly limited game plan

They're such an intriguing case. Utterly dominant at U18 and U20, but almost getting worse at the senior level or at least not leveraging the skill I've seen in those matches. Ou est l'esprit de 'joue'?