Saffers

[OomStruisbaai]

Well known Saffer, Elon Musk, is now the richest man in the world and the most powerful as Co-president of the USA.

He's also a massive cunt with no love for SA

Oh, we are well aware of that.

Hope this motivate Dricus for his fight against Strickland on the weekend.

[Slick]

Well known Saffer, Elon Musk, is now the richest man in the world and the most powerful as Co-president of the USA.

He's also a massive cunt with no love for SA

Oh, we are well aware of that.

You can take the boy out of SA…

[OomStruisbaai]

He's also a massive cunt with no love for SA

Oh, we are well aware of that.

You can take the boy out of SA…

Thats racist!

[Chilli2]

He's also a massive cunt with no love for SA

Oh, we are well aware of that.

You can take the boy out of SA…

Sjoe!

[assfly]

Coming out for work - leading a trade mission - so will be there for 4/5 days. Do I need to bring anything to the fight or just fists?

Would be good to have a beer

Sounds splendid! Remind me closer to the time and we'll make a plan.

[Slick]

Coming out for work - leading a trade mission - so will be there for 4/5 days. Do I need to bring anything to the fight or just fists?

Would be good to have a beer

Sounds splendid! Remind me closer to the time and we'll make a plan.

[OomStruisbaai]

Dricus vok the arrogant American up. Big time. The Dutchman broke his nose.

[Chilli2]

Dricus vok the arrogant American up. Big time. The Dutchman broke his nose.

At what?

[OomStruisbaai]

Dricus vok the arrogant American up. Big time. The Dutchman broke his nose.

At what?

Ballet dancing

[Calculon]

Dricus vok the arrogant American up. Big time. The Dutchman broke his nose.

DDP is a classy guy

[Sards]

I am in amazement of the effects of a matric dance on one of my employees. He took out loans etc. to cover the cost of his sons matric dance and is now in the shite. I was flabberghasted when he went through the costs. Is this normal. Do people really get themselves into trouble financially just on a couple of hours event.

I was horrified to hear how much parents spent on the grade 6 valentines dance my son attended. Full out hairdressers , dresses specially made up , transport to the event , make up etc. My kid went in his favourite baggy shorts that he got in the summer and a button up shirt from his closet and tackies. The boys all ended up playing games outside whilst the girls sat around in groups looking at their phones......

What the hell posses people who cant afford this shite to spend so much on an event

[Sandstorm]

I am in amazement of the effects of a matric dance on one of my employees. He took out loans etc. to cover the cost of his sons matric dance and is now in the shite. I was flabberghasted when he went through the costs. Is this normal. Do people really get themselves into trouble financially just on a couple of hours event.

I was horrified to hear how much parents spent on the grade 6 valentines dance my son attended. Full out hairdressers , dresses specially made up , transport to the event , make up etc. My kid went in his favourite baggy shorts that he got in the summer and a button up shirt from his closet and tackies. The boys all ended up playing games outside whilst the girls sat around in groups looking at their phones......

What the hell posses people who cant afford this shite to spend so much on an event

Keeping up with the De Klerk's.....

[OomStruisbaai]

I am in amazement of the effects of a matric dance on one of my employees. He took out loans etc. to cover the cost of his sons matric dance and is now in the shite. I was flabberghasted when he went through the costs. Is this normal. Do people really get themselves into trouble financially just on a couple of hours event.

I was horrified to hear how much parents spent on the grade 6 valentines dance my son attended. Full out hairdressers , dresses specially made up , transport to the event , make up etc. My kid went in his favourite baggy shorts that he got in the summer and a button up shirt from his closet and tackies. The boys all ended up playing games outside whilst the girls sat around in groups looking at their phones......

What the hell posses people who cant afford this shite to spend so much on an event

Wait till your laaitie get to know about the little clit.

[assfly]

Wait till your laaitie get to know about the little clit.

I'm still looking for it.

[Chilli2]

I am in amazement of the effects of a matric dance on one of my employees. He took out loans etc. to cover the cost of his sons matric dance and is now in the shite. I was flabberghasted when he went through the costs. Is this normal. Do people really get themselves into trouble financially just on a couple of hours event.

I was horrified to hear how much parents spent on the grade 6 valentines dance my son attended. Full out hairdressers , dresses specially made up , transport to the event , make up etc. My kid went in his favourite baggy shorts that he got in the summer and a button up shirt from his closet and tackies. The boys all ended up playing games outside whilst the girls sat around in groups looking at their phones......

What the hell posses people who cant afford this shite to spend so much on an event

We were inundated with calls laat year from parents wanting photo shoots at the Hotel and on the farm for their daughters Matric dance pre-shoots.

They pay for a day room and come with the dress, hair done, make up artist and photographer. We then charge them a venue hire aa well.

Just this, excluding the dress, must be 10 grand.

[handyman]

I am in amazement of the effects of a matric dance on one of my employees. He took out loans etc. to cover the cost of his sons matric dance and is now in the shite. I was flabberghasted when he went through the costs. Is this normal. Do people really get themselves into trouble financially just on a couple of hours event.

I was horrified to hear how much parents spent on the grade 6 valentines dance my son attended. Full out hairdressers , dresses specially made up , transport to the event , make up etc. My kid went in his favourite baggy shorts that he got in the summer and a button up shirt from his closet and tackies. The boys all ended up playing games outside whilst the girls sat around in groups looking at their phones......

What the hell posses people who cant afford this shite to spend so much on an event

Keeping up with the De Klerk's.....

Exactly. As jy dom is, moet jy kak.

[assfly]

Nobody bothered with that shit when I matriculated.

We were just a bunch of awkward, pimply virgins.

[_Os_]

What I'm seeing so far looks like a bad deal for the DA.

There'll need to be massive policy wins for this to be worthwhile. Which were never on the table. Lets see if the ANC end cadre deployment which is in the deal, but so far everything in the deal has been watered down when the crunch comes.

No chance this is lasting long term. Could go through why but it's a bit depressing, basically as things stand the DA doesn't have enough power to do much. After years of this everyone will start blaming the DA (and whites) for the ANC's mess. The DA may get some wins out of this, but needed to be more than what it's looking like.

I can see this doing massive damage to the DA. There's some potential upside, but that involves convincing people who have never voted DA that the DA improved things and not the ANC/other parties.

It has kept bad bastards known as the EFF and MK out, that's about it.

This is mainly a problem for the ANC at the moment (not hard to find ANC supporters who are pissed), but DA leaders have repeatedly said this will not be easy and DA supporters will have to swallow things they dislike. Giving the ANC support means: Not attacking dodgy ANC stuff, not opposing BEE and maybe some version of EWC (Ramaphosa is a massive fan of EWC), and in a worst case scenario the ANC shit the bed about losing racist supporters and starts trying to pass crazy legislation leaving the DA in a tough situation.

Some long posts up the thread. These are short-ish and sum it up. A lot of my fears are coming true.

Ramaphosa/ANC used the threat of the EFF and MK to drive a ridiculous deal. DA given very little power. ANC still committed to crazy policies. Even though it's very obvious the ANC surviving depends on the ANC not doing crazy stuff and the DA having the space to do some good. Instead it looks a lot like ANC business as usual.

End result internal DA polling (usually very accurate) is now said to have the DA on 10%-ish (this is from a good source). A number that low would send the DA back to the early 2000s in terms of support. There's no way that is sustainable. The DA is not going to sit there until 2029 on a number that low.

Ramaphosa's addiction to EWC is just insane. Signed that into law without even telling the DA he was going to do it, which has forced the DA to take the ANC to court when they're both in government together. Ramaphosa also now has the US breathing down his neck.

This Ramaphosa guy is a domkop, Zuma didn't even go to school and is smarter than this. How he has fucked this up I'll never know, by giving the DA so little power he has ended up with all the same old shit policies and if the DA walks out he has no government.

[assfly]

Hello darkness my old friend

[Sandstorm]

Hello darkness my old friend

Indeed. My 2033 retirement plans to Noordhoek are beginning to unravel here.

[average joe]

What I'm seeing so far looks like a bad deal for the DA.

There'll need to be massive policy wins for this to be worthwhile. Which were never on the table. Lets see if the ANC end cadre deployment which is in the deal, but so far everything in the deal has been watered down when the crunch comes.

No chance this is lasting long term. Could go through why but it's a bit depressing, basically as things stand the DA doesn't have enough power to do much. After years of this everyone will start blaming the DA (and whites) for the ANC's mess. The DA may get some wins out of this, but needed to be more than what it's looking like.

I can see this doing massive damage to the DA. There's some potential upside, but that involves convincing people who have never voted DA that the DA improved things and not the ANC/other parties.

It has kept bad bastards known as the EFF and MK out, that's about it.

This is mainly a problem for the ANC at the moment (not hard to find ANC supporters who are pissed), but DA leaders have repeatedly said this will not be easy and DA supporters will have to swallow things they dislike. Giving the ANC support means: Not attacking dodgy ANC stuff, not opposing BEE and maybe some version of EWC (Ramaphosa is a massive fan of EWC), and in a worst case scenario the ANC shit the bed about losing racist supporters and starts trying to pass crazy legislation leaving the DA in a tough situation.

Some long posts up the thread. These are short-ish and sum it up. A lot of my fears are coming true.

Ramaphosa/ANC used the threat of the EFF and MK to drive a ridiculous deal. DA given very little power. ANC still committed to crazy policies. Even though it's very obvious the ANC surviving depends on the ANC not doing crazy stuff and the DA having the space to do some good. Instead it looks a lot like ANC business as usual.

End result internal DA polling (usually very accurate) is now said to have the DA on 10%-ish (this is from a good source). A number that low would send the DA back to the early 2000s in terms of support. There's no way that is sustainable. The DA is not going to sit there until 2029 on a number that low.

Ramaphosa's addiction to EWC is just insane. Signed that into law without even telling the DA he was going to do it, which has forced the DA to take the ANC to court when they're both in government together. Ramaphosa also now has the US breathing down his neck.

This Ramaphosa guy is a domkop, Zuma didn't even go to school and is smarter than this. How he has fucked this up I'll never know, by giving the DA so little power he has ended up with all the same old shit policies and if the DA walks out he has no government.

I hate to do this but "I told you so" when you were still sooooo positive about everything GNU.
Even if they walk out of the party of Gnu now, the DA is done as a standalone entity. Their only option is to become the new New NP and get absorbed into the ANC. There is no coming back from this. They should never have agreed on this shit deal to begin with. The ANC only needed them for the numbers, there was never a "work together agenda" They will still push through their bullshit agendas and policies without consulting with anyone and there's nothing the DA can do because they accepted the useless positions that was offered them.

If they walk out now the ANC will bring in the EFF and still be in power. Old shower head is the official opposition and there is nowhere for the DA to go. They are effectively reduced to redundancy.

Next elections
ANC, EFF and some bought and paid for fringe nobodies rule
Old showerhead and his MK is the official opposition.
DA is a -10% party and left on the scrapheap like COPE. Everyone I know that voted DA feels betrayed and says the DA gave their votes to the ANC and therefore they won't vote anymore, because there is no longer anyone to vote for.

[_Os_]

I hate to do this but "I told you so" when you were still sooooo positive about everything GNU.
Even if they walk out of the party of Gnu now, the DA is done as a standalone entity. Their only option is to become the new New NP and get absorbed into the ANC. There is no coming back from this. They should never have agreed on this shit deal to begin with. The ANC only needed them for the numbers, there was never a "work together agenda" They will still push through their bullshit agendas and policies without consulting with anyone and there's nothing the DA can do because they accepted the useless positions that was offered them.

If they walk out now the ANC will bring in the EFF and still be in power. Old shower head is the official opposition and there is nowhere for the DA to go. They are effectively reduced to redundancy.

Next elections
ANC, EFF and some bought and paid for fringe nobodies rule
Old showerhead and his MK is the official opposition.
DA is a -10% party and left on the scrapheap like COPE. Everyone I know that voted DA feels betrayed and says the DA gave their votes to the ANC and therefore they won't vote anymore, because there is no longer anyone to vote for.

I don't think you do "hate to do this", Mnr.Joe. I think you enjoyed putting the boot it.

I was hopeful before the deal, then very cautious afterwards. Not voting isn’t going to work, things will definitely not improve dong that. The ostrich move. You have to vote for whoever you think is the least worst, no party is going to be perfect. Not voting DA doesn’t help the DA get the best outcome possible. You also have to remember there’s a lot of apathy, just hanging in helps the DA against other parties. It's just disappointing seeing what SA is getting from the GNU, compared to what it could be getting. That's on Ramaphosa.

I know you’re going to push back on what I say next but … SA isn’t as fucked as it should be given the numbers (crime, unemployment, inequality) because most South Africans are fundamentally decent people who are not dumb. Those that trusted Ramaphosa have been conned. Most countries given SA’s situation would be deep into completely insane leaders by now, Malema-Mugabe. In SA that hasn't happened and there’s still a chance of things improving substantially.

Latest polling from SRF, the best polling outfit, is at odds with the DA internal poll. Has ANC down and DA up:
ANC 32%, DA 25%, MK 12%, EFF 6%, IFP 3%, PA 2%, Other 6%

I think it’s likely the ANC vote is down, EFF vote down (its losing leaders, they must know they're over), MK who knows, DA volatile and the mood of supporters changing often.

If the DA maintains its vote in the mid-20s and the ANC keeps losing support, there will be a good coalition outcome after an election. The ANC is going to keep losing support because it hasn’t let the DA do enough.

[Sandstorm]

I know you’re going to push back on what I say next but … SA isn’t as fucked as it should be given the numbers (crime, unemployment, inequality) because most South Africans are fundamentally decent people who are not dumb. Those that trusted Ramaphosa have been conned. Most countries given SA’s situation would be deep into completely insane leaders by now, Malema-Mugabe. In SA that hasn't happened and there’s still a chance of things improving substantially.

Word

If the DA maintains its vote in the mid-20s and the ANC keeps losing support, there will be a good coalition outcome after an election. The ANC is going to keep losing support because it hasn’t let the DA do enough.

Agreed. As long as the DA keeps maintaining services in Cape Town, they'll be an attractive choice for voters in other areas where their own infrastructure is fucked.

[average joe]

If the DA don't get "wins" in policy making within the GNU, more voters will turn off.

What kind of Government of National Unity is this?
They can't agree on policies, so the ANC just pushes them through without consulting them.
They got kicked out of Gauteng by their GNU partners.
They lost mayoral positions in their stronghold to their GNU partners.
They got offered only useless positions in parlement.

Who is the least worst? A vote for the DA under the GNU is a vote for the ANC, next option down is old showerhead.

Something gets pushed through and boep pens Steenheizen goes and drinks tea with uncle Ramaphosa and comes out "I understand better now, it's not as bad as we thought"

NHI
Bela bill
Expropriation without compensation

There was never a Government of National Unity, only the party Gnu, and its sole purpose was to destroy the only other party that could be a viable opposition and replace it with a corrupt, decrepit ex-ANC member.

For years people have underestimated the ANC. The ANC destroyed the NNP, they destroyed COPE, they've now destroyed the EFF and they will destroy the DA. Go ask old man Zuma what he meant when he said they won't do to him what they did to COPE, because he was part of it and knows how they operate.

Ask yourself this, this is Ramaphosa's last term. He is the last of the old boys club. Who comes next?

[_Os_]

Ask yourself this, this is Ramaphosa's last term. He is the last of the old boys club. Who comes next?

Ah, so you know there's something worse than what's there now?

[Calculon]

bey bey Ebrahim . ..

Washington was already looking to expell him and the arrogant twit gave them a perfect excuse with his white supremacist comments

Another great example of ANC arrogance to appoint the muslim pro Hamas and pro Iran, failed ANC politician as the ambassador to Trump's America

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... paign=main

[Deepsouth]

Don't get me wrong. The ANC are reprehensible. But none of us should ever pander to Jabba the Hut....

[OomStruisbaai]

bey bey Ebrahim . ..

Washington was already looking to expell him and the arrogant twit gave them a perfect excuse with his white supremacist comments

Another great example of ANC arrogance to appoint the muslim pro Hamas and pro Iran, failed ANC politician as the ambassador to Trump's America

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... paign=main

What an idiot. It's going to cost us big time.

[Chilli2]

Why would they send an Ambassador to Washington who hates most of the things that America supports?

Rasool hates Israel, America supports Israel.
Rasool supports Hamas and Hezbollah, America hates Hamas and Hezbollah.

It was NEVER going to work.

[Calculon]

Why would they send an Ambassador to Washington who hates most of the things that America supports?

Rasool hates Israel, America supports Israel.
Rasool supports Hamas and Hezbollah, America hates Hamas and Hezbollah.

It was NEVER going to work.

jobs for the boys and arrogance/stupidity thinking years of anti western, pro islamist rhetoric would't matter. Rasool gave a recent interview on how how SA and the trump adminisatrtion should get along since they are both pro-russian and anti nato. he's also the POS that used goverment money to bribe journalist. good riddence

[OomStruisbaai]

Why would they send an Ambassador to Washington who hates most of the things that America supports?

Rasool hates Israel, America supports Israel.
Rasool supports Hamas and Hezbollah, America hates Hamas and Hezbollah.

It was NEVER going to work.

He fucked up WP rugby and tried to run the Western Cape. Vokker

[assfly]

South Africa's international relations are a joke. Every issue the handle is a disaster.

[_Os_]

South Africa's international relations are a joke. Every issue the handle is a disaster.

If I was running it my focus would be:
1. Southern Africa.
<daylight>
2. SSA. Which means making money in the places where substantial development is possible (Kenya/Uganda/Nigeria/Ghana/Senegal) and attempting to prevent/control conflict in the other areas.
3. Good relations with the EU/UK. Europe will always be the most important out of region area for SA.
4. Good relations with US and China. Probably not great if a super power decides you're on the hit list. If they had done the previous steps this would matter less.

Everything else is irrelevant. No good can come from any involvement in the ME, it's not our region and we'll never be powerful enough to project any power that far out. Even the strength of a super power has limits and can lose in the ME. Russia has nothing to do with us, last time I checked we traded a lot more with Swaziland (not surprising Russia is on the other side of the world, Russia is a terrible investment prospect for SA money, other than energy nothing Russia produces is that noteworthy and SA gets oil from ME/Africa anyway).

The ANC has basically done the exact opposite. Zim is a place SA has a lot of power over and it's a shambles, there's little SA input into that madhouse. At the same time SA is all over madhouses far away which matter little to SA, where no SA government is ever going to have any power.

[assfly]

Agree with all of that. Stick with the priorities that will benefit South Africa the most. Forget emotions and nice feelings, we've no business in the Middle East.

And drop anything to do with BRICS too, it will cost us much more in the long run. Out of that lot, I'd only stick to improving relations with India.

[Chilli2]

ACHTUNG Cape Town types!

Have any of you eaten at The Iron Grill in Bree street?

A mate of mine ate there last week and said that they specialize in Bavette [that is plankie steak to you Oom] and are KAK expensive.
The meat was good but over salty. R200 for a 200g bavette and salad.

Pricey.

[OomStruisbaai]

ACHTUNG Cape Town types!

Have any of you eaten at The Iron Grill in Bree street?

A mate of mine ate there last week and said that they specialize in Bavette [that is plankie steak to you Oom] and are KAK expensive.
The meat was good but over salty. R200 for a 200g bavette and salad.

Pricey.

This one


R495 for 500gr fillet

I call it plakkie steak. You need a plakkie to kill the fire.

[Sards]

ACHTUNG Cape Town types!

Have any of you eaten at The Iron Grill in Bree street?

A mate of mine ate there last week and said that they specialize in Bavette [that is plankie steak to you Oom] and are KAK expensive.
The meat was good but over salty. R200 for a 200g bavette and salad.

Pricey.

It's our go to. The owners and I are mates. So we do odd jobs for them and take meals in Leiue of payment so always have a credit there. Their steaks are great and its grilled in a charcoal oven so that further enhances the flavor. For my wife and youngest their Wagua burgers are the best burgers in Cape Town. Very simple burgers just a patty, some garnish and dipping and decent buns. But the execution is the trick. You pay for excellent execution......but on Wednesday they have Wagua Wednesday which is the burger plus chips dripped with Wagua dripping which is the best chips around, all for a very good R95.00 . All their meals are simple with no overcrowded plate making it look a better meal than it is, only relying on the product you are paying for to be the hero. The staff all know my family well there.

But don't just stop there. Around the corner is a pasta restaurant also part of the same group. Scala. If you want a taste sensation that's your stop. Small plates you order as a bundle and get to savor. Highly recommended.

Look. The groups restaurants aren't cheap. But you get what you pay for.

Also part of the group on the same strip is
Nikki. Peruvian, Asian decadence.
Yattai. Ramen heaven.
Burger and Lobster. The Wagua burger with a crayfish twist.
The head chef and I use the same tattoo artist and his brother played cricket with my eldest. He is really a good chef and goes overseas to learn the trade of any new products he introduces so is well traveled.

[Sandstorm]

ACHTUNG Cape Town types!

Have any of you eaten at The Iron Grill in Bree street?

A mate of mine ate there last week and said that they specialize in Bavette [that is plankie steak to you Oom] and are KAK expensive.
The meat was good but over salty. R200 for a 200g bavette and salad.

Pricey.

If you live in the Eastern Cape then everything is expensive in CT.

[Sards]

ACHTUNG Cape Town types!

Have any of you eaten at The Iron Grill in Bree street?

A mate of mine ate there last week and said that they specialize in Bavette [that is plankie steak to you Oom] and are KAK expensive.
The meat was good but over salty. R200 for a 200g bavette and salad.

Pricey.

If you live in the Eastern Cape then everything is expensive in CT.

We went away last weekend to just have a break and recharge the body and mind. We went to the Baths in Citrusdal and soaked in the mineral springs for 3 days. I really felt the difference in my body and skin and could take my mind off all the drama of the cricket season.
Whenever we go away we never take food. We try to support the local restaurants and obviously explore the culinary experiences as part of our holiday experience.

Well. Citrusdal really does not have much to offer. A pity because their local beef is really tasty. We eventually came across Salomis in Citrusdal towards the edge of town close to the country club. What a delicious surprise. Once again very simple done properly. And a good product to work with. These prices were very reasonable. You pay R165.00 for a 300 to 400 gram Ribeye. The same would go for R300 plus in town.

We are at the point where we would rather pay extra to have our food done properly. There is no excuse for a steak not to have sear marks on the surface and a sauce that tastes like it has come from a packet. Unfortunately this is pretty much what we got from the other establishments in the area. It basically was like the farmers wife who has been complimented all her life by her husband and children now subjecting us patrons to her cooking.

[Chilli2]

ACHTUNG Cape Town types!

Have any of you eaten at The Iron Grill in Bree street?

A mate of mine ate there last week and said that they specialize in Bavette [that is plankie steak to you Oom] and are KAK expensive.
The meat was good but over salty. R200 for a 200g bavette and salad.

Pricey.

It's our go to. The owners and I are mates. So we do odd jobs for them and take meals in Leiue of payment so always have a credit there. Their steaks are great and its grilled in a charcoal oven so that further enhances the flavor. For my wife and youngest their Wagua burgers are the best burgers in Cape Town. Very simple burgers just a patty, some garnish and dipping and decent buns. But the execution is the trick. You pay for excellent execution......but on Wednesday they have Wagua Wednesday which is the burger plus chips dripped with Wagua dripping which is the best chips around, all for a very good R95.00 . All their meals are simple with no overcrowded plate making it look a better meal than it is, only relying on the product you are paying for to be the hero. The staff all know my family well there.

But don't just stop there. Around the corner is a pasta restaurant also part of the same group. Scala. If you want a taste sensation that's your stop. Small plates you order as a bundle and get to savor. Highly recommended.

Look. The groups restaurants aren't cheap. But you get what you pay for.

Also part of the group on the same strip is
Nikki. Peruvian, Asian decadence.
Yattai. Ramen heaven.
Burger and Lobster. The Wagua burger with a crayfish twist.
The head chef and I use the same tattoo artist and his brother played cricket with my eldest. He is really a good chef and goes overseas to learn the trade of any new products he introduces so is well traveled.

Ok, thanks.

Look I don't understand why people go for Wagu burgers. It is just fatty mince.