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The inconsistency is baffling – compare that to the penalty try Munster were awarded
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:57 pm That has to be pen try surely because it's an illegal action that puts Saints' 6 into touch?

If it's a penalty they have to take the offending player out of the equation and decide the probably outcome if he wasn't there.

For me that's a penalty try all day long
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Not in the act of scoring :wtf:
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:01 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:57 pm That has to be pen try surely because it's an illegal action that puts Saints' 6 into touch?

If it's a penalty they have to take the offending player out of the equation and decide the probably outcome if he wasn't there.

For me that's a penalty try all day long
That certainly was the directive once upon a time, I'm not sure if it still is though?

But yeah, daft that it wasn't a penalty try! It's also daft that Pollock didn't get a YC though
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PornDog wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:07 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:01 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:57 pm That has to be pen try surely because it's an illegal action that puts Saints' 6 into touch?

If it's a penalty they have to take the offending player out of the equation and decide the probably outcome if he wasn't there.

For me that's a penalty try all day long
That certainly was the directive once upon a time, I'm not sure if it still is though?

But yeah, daft that it wasn't a penalty try! It's also daft that Pollock didn't get a YC though

They always seem to ignore the offence if a try is scored - it's a bugbear of mine.

I really think there is a directive to keep the cards down, especially red ones. There was a bleeding obvious red card in Edinburgh's game today, which was only adjudged yellow, and when the same player committed another headshot it was "just a penalty for me" :wtf:
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There have been some very strange decisions today
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Good to see Pollock is okay
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Someone shut Andy Goode up please!
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duke wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:22 pm Someone shut Andy Goode up please!
He's a proper twat.
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Furbs!

Wonderful try.
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How is that not clear head on head?
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Castres 13 incredibly lucky for a second time.

That ought to be a cast iron yellow at least.
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I don't know this ref, but he's not the best is he.
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Choo, choo. The Pollock hype train has no brakes.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:50 pm Choo, choo. The Pollock hype train has no brakes.

He wears Freddy Douglas pyjamas
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That could easily be two cards for Castres
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Not a surprise to see Pollock in the midst of everything, though he certainly didn't start it. What was Castres 11 thinking?
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Fair enough, didn't think Piardi had the bottle to follow through on the earlier warning.

14 v 13 will definitely suit Saints.
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Eh? He doesn't know wtf he's doing.
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Oxbow wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:03 pm Eh? He doesn't know wtf he's doing.

Piardi?

He's usually okay but he's lost it tonight. There must be a memo to not card players unless there is absolutely no way of avoiding it, including making up stuff
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:lol: Pollock is such a prick.

Great work from Mitchell. Nice to see Tom West back and bruising. Wasps' collapse really seemed to delay his progress, looked like he was going to be in the England mix for a bit.
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Pollock for Lions?

FFS. No way, that smacks of English desperation
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The guy is going to be a star, undoubtedly, but I can think of three Welsh back rows I'd pick in front of him right now.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:16 pm The guy is going to be a star, undoubtedly, but I can think of three Welsh back rows I'd pick in front of him right now.
Even the Welsh can't think of three back rows that should go on the Lions tour.

Pollock should go to Argentina with England.
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Oxbow wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:18 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:16 pm The guy is going to be a star, undoubtedly, but I can think of three Welsh back rows I'd pick in front of him right now.
Even the Welsh can't think of three back rows that should go on the Lions tour.

Pollock should go to Argentina with England.
Morgan, Reffell and Wainwright would be my choices ahead of Pollock right now, there is an argument for Faletau too.

Pollock will get there, undoubtedly, but next time, not this time.

edit, I'm not saying those three or four should go, just that they are better options than Pollock right now.
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One of my best memories of watching a game in a pub was the HC final between Saints and Leinster - the game of two halfs one. I was in an Irish pub in Brighton and it was jumping. The support was around 50 50, terrific atmosphere and the (very good - Darkstar) beer was flowing freely.
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Fairly easy win in the end. Going to have to hope Leinster have a real shocker if we're to progress any further.
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mon the Wesht
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Shite, It's Robson on the commentary.

Bring back Stevie Ferris
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The new stand looks great btw
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That's a try for Big Bundee
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I love Bealham, I think he's quality player, but by God he deserves all the grief in the world for that hair!

Prendy the Elder in!
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PornDog wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:10 pm I love Bealham, I think he's quality player, but by God he deserves all the grief in the world for that hair!

Someone should set his hair on fire, to be honest
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Racing :lol:
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Jesus Mack, just dive on it!
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Racing aren't going away!
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PornDog wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:41 pm Racing aren't going away!
Seems not. I had Connacht to edge this one. Hansen at fault for 2 tries.

Farrell's invisibility cloak on cheap high shots remains intact.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:20 pm
Oxbow wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:18 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:16 pm The guy is going to be a star, undoubtedly, but I can think of three Welsh back rows I'd pick in front of him right now.
Even the Welsh can't think of three back rows that should go on the Lions tour.

Pollock should go to Argentina with England.
Morgan, Reffell and Wainwright would be my choices ahead of Pollock right now, there is an argument for Faletau too.

Pollock will get there, undoubtedly, but next time, not this time.

edit, I'm not saying those three or four should go, just that they are better options than Pollock right now.
I assume that the argument for Faletau is that he looked completely battered and ancient in the 6N, and would struggle to get in most teams.

Pollock is getting glazed for sure, but push back sensibly, at least.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:32 am
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:20 pm
Oxbow wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:18 pm

Even the Welsh can't think of three back rows that should go on the Lions tour.

Pollock should go to Argentina with England.
Morgan, Reffell and Wainwright would be my choices ahead of Pollock right now, there is an argument for Faletau too.

Pollock will get there, undoubtedly, but next time, not this time.

edit, I'm not saying those three or four should go, just that they are better options than Pollock right now.
I assume that the argument for Faletau is that he looked completely battered and ancient in the 6N, and would struggle to get in most teams.

Pollock is getting glazed for sure, but push back sensibly, at least.
Seems to be a collective amnesia about how comprehensively Morgan was dismantled by an English back row he will likely tour ahead of. Parisse syndrome - being a decent player in a shit team means people talk about you.
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Morgan made more tackles than anyone else in the 6N, he was 4th in successful clean outs, 2nd in defensive ruck arrivals, 5th in attacking ruck arrivals.

These are all metrics selectors take note of, rather than the colour of shirt they wear.
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