Bledisloe II: All Blacks vs Wallabies: MATCH THREAD: Sunday 18th Oct

[Jb1981]

Ioane is now an injury doubt with Umaga-Jensen called into the squad.

[Carter's Choice]

Ioane is now an injury doubt with Umaga-Jensen called into the squad.

Yep he's out for two weeks with a badly bruised ego.

[Jb1981]

Ioane is now an injury doubt with Umaga-Jensen called into the squad.

Yep he's out for two weeks with a badly bruised ego.

A badly bruised ego and strained sense of self worth.

[Monkey Magic]

Wilson misses captains run with stomach bug as well.

Can't think of too many loose forwards that had such a positive debut as he did last week - especially given the opposition.

Not over awed, no major fuck ups and got stuff done

[Kiwias]

Ioane is now an injury doubt with Umaga-Jensen called into the squad.

Yep he's out for two weeks with a badly bruised ego.

A badly bruised ego and strained sense of self worth.

[Enzedder]

The Untouchables
*Players who cannot be criticised unless you want hell to be unleashed upon you by enraged AB fans

Beaudan Barrett
Aaron Smith
Sam Cane

Ma'a Nonu was top of this list before he retired

No crusader players?

Mate, even Todd Blackadder walked on water according to the Sadists fans

[FujiKiwi]

Jesus Christ. Ma'a Nonu? He was constantly vilified on PR with AC being one of the main culprits.

For how good Nonu was, the vitriol heaped on him by boredies like AC and his sidekick, douche chill, was unbelievable.

An untouchable Nonu most certainly was not.

[Grandpa]

The Untouchables
*Players who cannot be criticised unless you want hell to be unleashed upon you by enraged AB fans

Beaudan Barrett
Aaron Smith
Sam Cane

Ma'a Nonu was top of this list before he retired

Sam Cane? He seems to get more criticism than even Rieko Ioane... at least from me.

AS and BB are class players who occassionally have bad games... but even Aaron Smith's worst game is better than TJ's best game in my opinion. TJ has a use late in the game as a running scrum half, but he should never be started... surely there are better scrum halves than TJ around? TJ always strikes me as a midfield back that keeps finding himself unexpectedly at the base of rucks... crap passer and slow decision maker, but has his moments as a running half back... and great defensive niggler...

[Guy Smiley]

You guys doing a great job of proving AC’s point here.

[Ymx]

Ioane is now an injury doubt with Umaga-Jensen called into the squad.

Yep he's out for two weeks with a badly bruised ego.

[Grandpa]

You guys doing a great job of proving AC’s point here.

I embrace his point. It's true for BB and AS... class players... replace them with someone better... not someone worse...

[Ymx]

The Untouchables
*Players who cannot be criticised unless you want hell to be unleashed upon you by enraged AB fans

Beaudan Barrett
Aaron Smith
Sam Cane

Ma'a Nonu was top of this list before he retired

No crusader players?

Yep SBW. Was a crusaders player.

[el camino]

The Untouchables
*Players who cannot be criticised unless you want hell to be unleashed upon you by enraged AB fans

Beaudan Barrett
Aaron Smith
Sam Cane

Ma'a Nonu was top of this list before he retired

No crusader players?

Yep SBW. Was a crusaders player.

Not sure if its the same criteria but Conrad Smith was overrated IMO

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

No crusader players?

Yep SBW. Was a crusaders player.

Not sure if its the same criteria but Conrad Smith was overrated IMO

Take back what you said about Conrad Smith, LLB at once.

[Dan54]

Jesus Christ. Ma'a Nonu? He was constantly vilified on PR with AC being one of the main culprits.

For how good Nonu was, the vitriol heaped on him by boredies like AC and his sidekick, douche chill, was unbelievable.

An untouchable Nonu most certainly was not.

To be fair to AC, he calls players untouchables when he criticises them and everyone doesn't agree 100% with him, or more importantly if there is a Crusader's player that can possibly be shoehorned into same position. As was seen last week when one or 2 posters suggested that perhaps Mounga didn't have a great game.

[Carter's Choice]

Jesus Christ. Ma'a Nonu? He was constantly vilified on PR with AC being one of the main culprits.

For how good Nonu was, the vitriol heaped on him by boredies like AC and his sidekick, douche chill, was unbelievable.

An untouchable Nonu most certainly was not.

To be fair to AC, he calls players untouchables when he criticises them and everyone doesn't agree 100% with him, or more importantly if there is a Crusader's player that can possibly be shoehorned into same position. As was seen last week when one or 2 posters suggested that perhaps Mounga didn't have a great game.

More trolling as usual. Mo'unga clearly didn't have his best game last Sunday. I just disagreed with posters such as yourself who said he should be dropped. Especially given that the player you wanted at 10, Beaudan Barrett, has barely been sighted at 10 this year. He started just two games at 10 for the Blues, and played poorly in both,.

[Trapper]

This Mo’unga v Barrett debate is a waste of energy if the forwards don’t step up and get some go forward. Either one of those blokes could do the job if provided with clean ball. I mean why is it that we argue over who should be playing where in the backs when it’s the friggen guys up front that need to show up and show some starch? That’s the problem, not who’s wearing 10 ffs.

[Guy Smiley]

Yes, Trapper.

Yes.

[Dan54]

Jesus Christ. Ma'a Nonu? He was constantly vilified on PR with AC being one of the main culprits.

For how good Nonu was, the vitriol heaped on him by boredies like AC and his sidekick, douche chill, was unbelievable.

An untouchable Nonu most certainly was not.

To be fair to AC, he calls players untouchables when he criticises them and everyone doesn't agree 100% with him, or more importantly if there is a Crusader's player that can possibly be shoehorned into same position. As was seen last week when one or 2 posters suggested that perhaps Mounga didn't have a great game.

More trolling as usual. Mo'unga clearly didn't have his best game last Sunday. I just disagreed with posters such as yourself who said he should be dropped. Especially given that the player you wanted at 10, Beaudan Barrett, has barely been sighted at 10 this year. He started just two games at 10 for the Blues, and played poorly in both,.

Ok, well if you can find a post where I said I preferred BB at 10, you must of been smoking, I asked if BB should, but if you look at my posts on what team I would pick I said I would have BB on bench. But hey don't let the truth get in the way !
I was just pointing out Mounga how you screamed that the 2 best preformances by ABs in last 2 years were because Mounga lead them from 10, when I pointed out that perhaps the 2 worst perfomances the same man was at 10, I was suddenly a BB fan (which I am, also a Mounga fan

[the cursed]

This Mo’unga v Barrett debate is a waste of energy if the forwards don’t step up and get some go forward. Either one of those blokes could do the job if provided with clean ball. I mean why is it that we argue over who should be playing where in the backs when it’s the friggen guys up front that need to show up and show some starch? That’s the problem, not who’s wearing 10 ffs.

please stop using logic and being sensible...

thanks

[Dan54]

This Mo’unga v Barrett debate is a waste of energy if the forwards don’t step up and get some go forward. Either one of those blokes could do the job if provided with clean ball. I mean why is it that we argue over who should be playing where in the backs when it’s the friggen guys up front that need to show up and show some starch? That’s the problem, not who’s wearing 10 ffs.

Would prefer Nugget to do an occasional run too, cause a little doubt in Wallabies defence.

[Trapper]

This Mo’unga v Barrett debate is a waste of energy if the forwards don’t step up and get some go forward. Either one of those blokes could do the job if provided with clean ball. I mean why is it that we argue over who should be playing where in the backs when it’s the friggen guys up front that need to show up and show some starch? That’s the problem, not who’s wearing 10 ffs.

Would prefer Nugget to do an occasional run too, cause a little doubt in Wallabies defence.

Yeah 100%.

[Gumboot]

Umaga-Jensen has replaced Ioane on the bench.

The Wobblies must really rate their chances against a side decimated by injury.

[Carter's Choice]

So this week the AB's have lost Sam Whitelock to ongoing concussion, and George Bridge and Rieko Ioane to training injuries. That's a terrible week.

[Jb1981]

So this week the AB's have lost Sam Whitelock to ongoing concussion, and George Bridge and Rieko Ioane to training injuries. That's a terrible week.

And Foster is still at the helm .

Injury aside, game two is where a coach can prove their worth. Rennie and Foster have seen game one and how the other side played. Let’s see the motivation and tactics this week. Who is feeling confident?

[Carter's Choice]

So this week the AB's have lost Sam Whitelock to ongoing concussion, and George Bridge and Rieko Ioane to training injuries. That's a terrible week.

And Foster is still at the helm .

Injury aside, game two is where a coach can prove their worth. Rennie and Foster have seen game one and how the other side played. Let’s see the motivation and tactics this week. Who is feeling confident?

I'm confident. On paper I still believe we have a much better team. If I was picking a combined ANZAC team today it would still be dominated by AB players. I just hope that I am wrong about Ian Foster and that he's a much better coach than I think he is. Losing Sam Whitelock is a huge loss though, we've got the weakest starting lock duo for many, many years.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Yes it's a weak locking duo alright.

I'm having haunting visions of the ABs not being able to buy a lineout win, a la the NZ sides of the early naughties.

Fuck that lineout sucked back then.

[Jb1981]

Yes it's a weak locking duo alright.

I'm having haunting visions of the ABs not being able to buy a lineout win, a la the NZ sides of the early naughties.

Fuck that lineout sucked back then.

Over complicated moving pods to try to compensate, but they made it worse . Bad times.

[Guy Smiley]

Yes it's a weak locking duo alright.

I'm having haunting visions of the ABs not being able to buy a lineout win, a la the NZ sides of the early naughties.

Fuck that lineout sucked back then.

I thought the Wallabies played the AB line out really well last week closing the gap repeatedly and forcing the throw to compensate. Interesting tactic and one you’d like to think a smart team would counter by appealing to the ref to straighten them out.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

If your lineout gets the yips it is a very smart strategy to simply reset and throw to two or right to the front most of the time.

It's such a quick throw that it is hard to defend.

[Fat Old Git]

In a pub for a late lunch followed by the game. Lovely warm sunny day. Life is good. :)

[Not_Couch]

Ioane is now an injury doubt with Umaga-Jensen called into the squad.

Yep he's out for two weeks with a badly bruised ego.

He must need his hair dyed again

[Kiwias]

Jesus Christ. Ma'a Nonu? He was constantly vilified on PR with AC being one of the main culprits.

For how good Nonu was, the vitriol heaped on him by boredies like AC and his sidekick, douche chill, was unbelievable.

An untouchable Nonu most certainly was not.

Earlier in his career, definitely very touchable but for the last 4~5 years up to and including RWC2015 he was close to untouchable except for douche.

[Gumboot]

Starting to feel bloody nervous. Would be great if the ABs put in a commanding performance, but Rennie won't let the Wallabies' standards slip and I think it could be another tight score.

[Carter's Choice]

Go All Blacks! I just want better performance. A really strong 80 minute performance. I will be watching our locks like a hawk.

[Flockwitt]

Bring it on! Let's see what they've got.

What was that about female prime ministers and losses?

[Gumboot]

Go, All Blacks!

[stemoc]

NZ by 25.

[Taranaki Snapper]

A little bit of R&B melisma at the end there...

[Taranaki Snapper]

Nice pukana, TJ...