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- Jimmy Smallsteps
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After years of MMP kingmaking it would be very refreshing to see Labour win the mandate to govern alone.
Can they do it?
Can they do it?
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Makes it possible that the debate tomorrow gets a bit feral.Enzedder wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:09 am Looking at Crushers comments over the last few days, I cannot help but think she is aiming her comments at the National Party faithful instead of the swing voter
Too easily rebutted when she goes with the bullshit (e.g. Labour will be forced to implement the wealth tax or the Greens will bring it in when she's on holiday with Shaw as deputy P.M.) and the fat-shaming post for old big-hips - WTAF?
As some commentators have said, she may not be there to win but more to make sure its not a bloodbath. If she can get her base to back her she might still have a job after the election.
Still can't see them getting up, with any bleed from labour's vote likely to have a boost to the greens to keep them above 5%
The Greens never seem to do as well as they poll. Seems that they can answer the phone but can't get off their asses to vote.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:26 am After years of MMP kingmaking it would be very refreshing to see Labour win the mandate to govern alone.
Can they do it?
I drink and I forget things.
The Marijuana referendum may help them .Enzedder wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:02 amThe Greens never seem to do as well as they poll. Seems that they can answer the phone but can't get off their asses to vote.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:26 am After years of MMP kingmaking it would be very refreshing to see Labour win the mandate to govern alone.
Can they do it?
New Conservatives, innit. Bunch of fundy Xtian nutjobs that expat Saffer fundy Xtian nutjobs find appealing.
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Survivor of Apartheid = Chickenrunner?
- Guy Smiley
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Yes, of course. Who else would use that term?
Also... there’s nothing ‘new’ about being conservative. They’re just using the term to brand their revamped line of hatred for all things not white, xtian and ironically anti immigration.
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Interesting. Not making any comment but just pointing out that its interesting
I believe it would be and it could pose an interesting predicament. Would Labour be better to keep Green voters onside by having them in Government (knowing they could out vote them if needed) or would they choose to go alone?Gumboot wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 am Yep, it's looking like a landslide. Would this be the first time a party could govern alone, if they wanted to, under MMP?
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Monkey Magic wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:08 amInteresting. Not making any comment but just pointing out that its interesting
Interesting.
Very interesting.Shanky’s mate wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:19 amMonkey Magic wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:08 amInteresting. Not making any comment but just pointing out that its interestingJb1981 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:07 am
Ilam may go red - Labour have a 2,000+ lead currently with a quarter of the vote counted.
Interesting.
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We can but dream. Maybe they'll regig the list before parliament sits again.
- Guy Smiley
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On one hand they’ll want to keep as much experience as they can but this as a butt kicking of magnificent proportions and he’s lost a blue ribband seat.Ted. wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:02 amWe can but dream. Maybe they'll regig the list before parliament sits again.
The Nats might just go for a big brave clean out.
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Oh well, we'll see what this "change" kool-aid really brings.
Happy to see the tired old conservative bullshit take a giant kick in the balls though.
Happy to see the tired old conservative bullshit take a giant kick in the balls though.
What is your cause?Wild Beef wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:33 amNo just being and edgy, cool and voting for my cool little hipster party.
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Jacinda is a decent leader and a decent politician. Her party falls over a bit on those capable of backing her up as far as I see.
I personally think a good leader with a good profile around the world should serve us pretty well, perhaps allowing us to slip a foot in the door where we may have been shut out.
Her bunch aren't hardcore lefty weirdo's which the polls have shown. There's enough there to be optimistic.
- Guy Smiley
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Yes, I’m happy with that. Her first term was a difficult coalition with an obstructive partner ideologically unsuited. It looks as if they may be able to govern alone, a first for any party under the NZ MMP electoral system. That being the case I’m keen to see them push through with some of the policy initiatives that they’ve made little ground on, to somewhat justifiable criticism.
Labour is a vote for more of the same, and I think serious changes are needed. Inequality is getting worse and house prices are going insane. Labour won’t fix this.
You'd hope so. They're pretty much bereft of fresh people and ideas at the top, as far as I can see.Shanky’s mate wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:06 amOn one hand they’ll want to keep as much experience as they can but this as a butt kicking of magnificent proportions and he’s lost a blue ribband seat.
The Nats might just go for a big brave clean out.
Started by John keys government mateWild Beef wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:51 amLabour is a vote for more of the same, and I think serious changes are needed. Inequality is getting worse and house prices are going insane. Labour won’t fix this.
- Jimmy Smallsteps
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Oh yes Churchill, yes.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:26 am After years of MMP kingmaking it would be very refreshing to see Labour win the mandate to govern alone.
Can they do it?
- Jimmy Smallsteps
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My home electorate, Rangitata, goes red. Unbelievable.
I know the boundaries were redrawn in the naughties letting a lot of those lefty South Canterbury cunts in, but still, remarkable.
I know the boundaries were redrawn in the naughties letting a lot of those lefty South Canterbury cunts in, but still, remarkable.