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So Trump's big beautiful budget that's causing so many fiscal headaches... does the muppet and the cultists actually know that the degrade in 2025 growth in the USA from 2.7% predicted to 1.8% per the IMF is going to blow the price tag on that out even further?
(meanwhile China is struggling under the weight of it all, they've been knocked for six, blown out of the park, battered, beaten, left cowering in the corner... as their economic 2025 growth is downgraded from 4.6% to 4.)
(meanwhile China is struggling under the weight of it all, they've been knocked for six, blown out of the park, battered, beaten, left cowering in the corner... as their economic 2025 growth is downgraded from 4.6% to 4.)
Even worse for the US where their debt to GDP ratio is c124%! For comparison the UK is c95%. With the cost of debt and financing the US Gov I am not sure Trump can put off having to renegotiate the debt ceiling much beyond the Spring, probably June? This will get very sticky for him politically and economically. It may end up sooner if the confidence in the US economy and the $ continues to slide and US treasuries become even more difficult to sell. Hence the Tango Twat climb down about sacking Powell - he has been told in no uncertain terms he risks destabilizing the entire economy otherwise! The US is in a very shaky position and I honestly cant see the Orange turd, supported by his dumb as fucks brown shirts, changing his moronic, economically illiterate behavior!Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:35 am Two year bond yield for US treasuries is now at the same level as the UK two year yield. Big indication of how fragile the markets view the US economy.
Yeah, the change in the us treasuries now means their cost of servicing the national debt has increased by more than the amount of money DOGE has saved.dpedin wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:12 amEven worse for the US where their debt to GDP ratio is c124%! For comparison the UK is c95%. With the cost of debt and financing the US Gov I am not sure Trump can put off having to renegotiate the debt ceiling much beyond the Spring, probably June? This will get very sticky for him politically and economically. It may end up sooner if the confidence in the US economy and the $ continues to slide and US treasuries become even more difficult to sell. Hence the Tango Twat climb down about sacking Powell - he has been told in no uncertain terms he risks destabilizing the entire economy otherwise! The US is in a very shaky position and I honestly cant see the Orange turd, supported by his dumb as fucks brown shirts, changing his moronic, economically illiterate behavior!Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:35 am Two year bond yield for US treasuries is now at the same level as the UK two year yield. Big indication of how fragile the markets view the US economy.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Saw that as well! All that DOGE has done is create chaos and mayhem, sacked loads of innocent hard working folk, destroyed public health and medical R&D, led to the deaths of starving and HIV+ folk across the world, destroyed the livelihood of many US farmers, tons of confidential data stolen and given to dodgy Big Tech and even Russians, etc etc ... and it has cost the US people more money to achieve all that! You honestly couldn't make up this complete and utter shitshow ... who would have thought that voting in a senile narcissistic psychopath and his dodgy facist, Neo-nazi, christian fundamentalists would lead to this?Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:16 amYeah, the change in the us treasuries now means their cost of servicing the national debt has increased by more than the amount of money DOGE has saved.dpedin wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:12 amEven worse for the US where their debt to GDP ratio is c124%! For comparison the UK is c95%. With the cost of debt and financing the US Gov I am not sure Trump can put off having to renegotiate the debt ceiling much beyond the Spring, probably June? This will get very sticky for him politically and economically. It may end up sooner if the confidence in the US economy and the $ continues to slide and US treasuries become even more difficult to sell. Hence the Tango Twat climb down about sacking Powell - he has been told in no uncertain terms he risks destabilizing the entire economy otherwise! The US is in a very shaky position and I honestly cant see the Orange turd, supported by his dumb as fucks brown shirts, changing his moronic, economically illiterate behavior!Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:35 am Two year bond yield for US treasuries is now at the same level as the UK two year yield. Big indication of how fragile the markets view the US economy.
I have my tin foil hat on just in case! Anyone else want one?
Meanwhile the real agenda is marching forwards
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Re the tin foil hat stuff you keep pushing, I think you are missing the point, either deliberately or not.dpedin wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:41 amSaw that as well! All that DOGE has done is create chaos and mayhem, sacked loads of innocent hard working folk, destroyed public health and medical R&D, led to the deaths of starving and HIV+ folk across the world, destroyed the livelihood of many US farmers, tons of confidential data stolen and given to dodgy Big Tech and even Russians, etc etc ... and it has cost the US people more money to achieve all that! You honestly couldn't make up this complete and utter shitshow ... who would have thought that voting in a senile narcissistic psychopath and his dodgy facist, Neo-nazi, christian fundamentalists would lead to this?Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:16 amYeah, the change in the us treasuries now means their cost of servicing the national debt has increased by more than the amount of money DOGE has saved.dpedin wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:12 am
Even worse for the US where their debt to GDP ratio is c124%! For comparison the UK is c95%. With the cost of debt and financing the US Gov I am not sure Trump can put off having to renegotiate the debt ceiling much beyond the Spring, probably June? This will get very sticky for him politically and economically. It may end up sooner if the confidence in the US economy and the $ continues to slide and US treasuries become even more difficult to sell. Hence the Tango Twat climb down about sacking Powell - he has been told in no uncertain terms he risks destabilizing the entire economy otherwise! The US is in a very shaky position and I honestly cant see the Orange turd, supported by his dumb as fucks brown shirts, changing his moronic, economically illiterate behavior!
I have my tin foil hat on just in case! Anyone else want one?
Meanwhile the real agenda is marching forwards
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisbing.bsky ... bgcd6hia27
Literally everyone agreed that this was going to get bat shit crazy, but the tin foil hat brigade were, and still are, pronouncing the end of the world, whereas some more level headed commentators were suggesting that checks, balances, norms and markets would get in the way. That's what's happening.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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More than they've claimed to have saved rather than actually saved even, and that before many of the cuts will merely balloon costs elsewhere in the systemBiffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:16 amYeah, the change in the us treasuries now means their cost of servicing the national debt has increased by more than the amount of money DOGE has saved.dpedin wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:12 amEven worse for the US where their debt to GDP ratio is c124%! For comparison the UK is c95%. With the cost of debt and financing the US Gov I am not sure Trump can put off having to renegotiate the debt ceiling much beyond the Spring, probably June? This will get very sticky for him politically and economically. It may end up sooner if the confidence in the US economy and the $ continues to slide and US treasuries become even more difficult to sell. Hence the Tango Twat climb down about sacking Powell - he has been told in no uncertain terms he risks destabilizing the entire economy otherwise! The US is in a very shaky position and I honestly cant see the Orange turd, supported by his dumb as fucks brown shirts, changing his moronic, economically illiterate behavior!Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:35 am Two year bond yield for US treasuries is now at the same level as the UK two year yield. Big indication of how fragile the markets view the US economy.
Trump may actually want to look into the balance of payments deficit will look very similar to the US spending more than it earns, there's no need to blame forgein types, they either need to cut their cloth or accept a/some deficit. This seems unlikely as he reportedly cares not one bit for issues he thinks will arise after he's dead
Can't Donny fuck off and play golf, leaving the running of the country to people (not his cabinet) who actually know what they're doing? Or at least won't spout shit every time someone puts a microphone in front of a MAGA gob?
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US sets tariffs of up to 3,521% on South East Asia solar panels
The US Commerce Department has announced plans to impose tariffs of up to 3,521% on imports of solar panels from four South East Asian countries.
It comes after an investigation that began a year ago when several major solar equipment producers asked the administration of then-President Joe Biden to protect their US operations.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ygdv47vlzo
If anyone in that administration had a shred of creativity they'd put the same fake office, rubber telephone and AI 'supplicating world leaders' bot on the other end of the line routine they did for his father when he got dementia.Sandstorm wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:13 am Can't Donny fuck off and play golf, leaving the running of the country to people (not his cabinet) who actually know what they're doing? Or at least won't spout shit every time someone puts a microphone in front of a MAGA gob?
"All fine sir, everyone's lining up to bend the knee and erect gold statues 2ft erect of your likeness in CAPITAL cities across the world. You're a winner! And so, so strong! Just sign here, please."
Seems fairtabascoboy wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:17 amUS sets tariffs of up to 3,521% on South East Asia solar panels
The US Commerce Department has announced plans to impose tariffs of up to 3,521% on imports of solar panels from four South East Asian countries.
It comes after an investigation that began a year ago when several major solar equipment producers asked the administration of then-President Joe Biden to protect their US operations.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ygdv47vlzo
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Almost as if they want to cripple renewables for some reason...
Not content with wrongly deporting her husband, Homeland Security have essentially doxxed Jennifer Vasquez Sura and made her feel so unsafe in her home that she has left for a "safe house".
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Apropos of not much, the name Kevin Hassett was brought to my attention earlier, so I thought I'd look him up. From Wiki:
Only the best people.He co-authored Dow 36,000, published in 1999, which argued that the stock market was about to have a massive swing upward and would reach 36,000 by 2004. Shortly thereafter, the dot-com bubble burst, causing a massive decline in stock market prices. The Dow did not reach 36,000 until late 2021.
He returned to the White House in 2020 to work on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic. Hassett did not focus on public health policy, but rather influenced the administration's response from an economic angle amid lockdowns and social distancing. Hassett built a model that indicated that COVID-19 deaths would drop off to near zero by May 2020. Hassett's model contradicted assessments by public health experts, and was ridiculed by academics and commentators.
On November 26, 2024, president-elect Donald Trump announced Hassett will be his director of the National Economic Council.
What hat size are you?Slick wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:50 amRe the tin foil hat stuff you keep pushing, I think you are missing the point, either deliberately or not.dpedin wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:41 amSaw that as well! All that DOGE has done is create chaos and mayhem, sacked loads of innocent hard working folk, destroyed public health and medical R&D, led to the deaths of starving and HIV+ folk across the world, destroyed the livelihood of many US farmers, tons of confidential data stolen and given to dodgy Big Tech and even Russians, etc etc ... and it has cost the US people more money to achieve all that! You honestly couldn't make up this complete and utter shitshow ... who would have thought that voting in a senile narcissistic psychopath and his dodgy facist, Neo-nazi, christian fundamentalists would lead to this?Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:16 am
Yeah, the change in the us treasuries now means their cost of servicing the national debt has increased by more than the amount of money DOGE has saved.
I have my tin foil hat on just in case! Anyone else want one?
Meanwhile the real agenda is marching forwards
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisbing.bsky ... bgcd6hia27
Literally everyone agreed that this was going to get bat shit crazy, but the tin foil hat brigade were, and still are, pronouncing the end of the world, whereas some more level headed commentators were suggesting that checks, balances, norms and markets would get in the way. That's what's happening.
Enormousdpedin wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:20 amWhat hat size are you?Slick wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:50 amRe the tin foil hat stuff you keep pushing, I think you are missing the point, either deliberately or not.dpedin wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:41 am
Saw that as well! All that DOGE has done is create chaos and mayhem, sacked loads of innocent hard working folk, destroyed public health and medical R&D, led to the deaths of starving and HIV+ folk across the world, destroyed the livelihood of many US farmers, tons of confidential data stolen and given to dodgy Big Tech and even Russians, etc etc ... and it has cost the US people more money to achieve all that! You honestly couldn't make up this complete and utter shitshow ... who would have thought that voting in a senile narcissistic psychopath and his dodgy facist, Neo-nazi, christian fundamentalists would lead to this?
I have my tin foil hat on just in case! Anyone else want one?
Meanwhile the real agenda is marching forwards
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisbing.bsky ... bgcd6hia27
Literally everyone agreed that this was going to get bat shit crazy, but the tin foil hat brigade were, and still are, pronouncing the end of the world, whereas some more level headed commentators were suggesting that checks, balances, norms and markets would get in the way. That's what's happening.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Oxbow wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:01 am Apropos of not much, the name Kevin Hassett was brought to my attention earlier, so I thought I'd look him up. From Wiki:
Only the best people.He co-authored Dow 36,000, published in 1999, which argued that the stock market was about to have a massive swing upward and would reach 36,000 by 2004. Shortly thereafter, the dot-com bubble burst, causing a massive decline in stock market prices. The Dow did not reach 36,000 until late 2021.
He returned to the White House in 2020 to work on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic. Hassett did not focus on public health policy, but rather influenced the administration's response from an economic angle amid lockdowns and social distancing. Hassett built a model that indicated that COVID-19 deaths would drop off to near zero by May 2020. Hassett's model contradicted assessments by public health experts, and was ridiculed by academics and commentators.
On November 26, 2024, president-elect Donald Trump announced Hassett will be his director of the National Economic Council.

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I'd pay good money to watch Trump trying to get into and back out of a canoe. In advance I don't see how that's not entertaining
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Especially when he has an oft repeated terror of sharks !!Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:31 pm I'd pay good money to watch Trump trying to get into and back out of a canoe. In advance I don't see how that's not entertaining
Fat man, small canoe, & some hungry sharks; I see the plan for the next Shark Week !
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As Slick says, the checks and balances are working.Oxbow wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:01 am Apropos of not much, the name Kevin Hassett was brought to my attention earlier, so I thought I'd look him up. From Wiki:
Only the best people.He co-authored Dow 36,000, published in 1999, which argued that the stock market was about to have a massive swing upward and would reach 36,000 by 2004. Shortly thereafter, the dot-com bubble burst, causing a massive decline in stock market prices. The Dow did not reach 36,000 until late 2021.
He returned to the White House in 2020 to work on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic. Hassett did not focus on public health policy, but rather influenced the administration's response from an economic angle amid lockdowns and social distancing. Hassett built a model that indicated that COVID-19 deaths would drop off to near zero by May 2020. Hassett's model contradicted assessments by public health experts, and was ridiculed by academics and commentators.
On November 26, 2024, president-elect Donald Trump announced Hassett will be his director of the National Economic Council.
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Larry David skewers the gutless, pathetic, sniveling, obsequious, whitewashing by many in the MSM with his parody of Bill Maher.
It's a masterpiece !
https://archive.ph/f7aWJ
It's a masterpiece !
https://archive.ph/f7aWJ
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Interesting back to back posts there. David having a pop at Maher for opening a dialogue, or even being willing to try, and then Klepper who'll very much be about opening a dialogue. Which I suppose speaks to the idea nobody has any idea what to do about a feckless, corrupt, racist, rapist, retard in the event they end up president
And, yes, it is true. Trump 2028 hats are now officially on sale:
https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/
Off you go and own the libs!!!!
https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/
Off you go and own the libs!!!!
Seems superfluous given he'll be King of the Nazi World or something by then.Flockwitt wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:53 am And, yes, it is true. Trump 2028 hats are now officially on sale:
https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/
Off you go and own the libs!!!!
Do they do one in tin foil?
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Sorry. The price of aluminium these days with the tariffs...Slick wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:03 amSeems superfluous given he'll be King of the Nazi World or something by then.Flockwitt wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:53 am And, yes, it is true. Trump 2028 hats are now officially on sale:
https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/
Off you go and own the libs!!!!
Do they do one in tin foil?
Plenty of people got it wrong on Covid , but coupled with the 36000 thing this guy does seem particularly wrong & inept , so makes sense Trump promoted him .Oxbow wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:01 am Apropos of not much, the name Kevin Hassett was brought to my attention earlier, so I thought I'd look him up. From Wiki:
Only the best people.He co-authored Dow 36,000, published in 1999, which argued that the stock market was about to have a massive swing upward and would reach 36,000 by 2004. Shortly thereafter, the dot-com bubble burst, causing a massive decline in stock market prices. The Dow did not reach 36,000 until late 2021.
He returned to the White House in 2020 to work on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic. Hassett did not focus on public health policy, but rather influenced the administration's response from an economic angle amid lockdowns and social distancing. Hassett built a model that indicated that COVID-19 deaths would drop off to near zero by May 2020. Hassett's model contradicted assessments by public health experts, and was ridiculed by academics and commentators.
On November 26, 2024, president-elect Donald Trump announced Hassett will be his director of the National Economic Council.
I too famously misjudged Covid , I thought it would be like another bird flu damp squib … not one of my most accurate predictions there tbh
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:53 am And, yes, it is true. Trump 2028 hats are now officially on sale:
https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/
Off you go and own the libs!!!!

It's foil linedSlick wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:03 amSeems superfluous given he'll be King of the Nazi World or something by then.Flockwitt wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:53 am And, yes, it is true. Trump 2028 hats are now officially on sale:
https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/
Off you go and own the libs!!!!
Do they do one in tin foil?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
That's what they're forgetting. If Trump can run again, so can Obama.Sandstorm wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:09 amFlockwitt wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:53 am And, yes, it is true. Trump 2028 hats are now officially on sale:
https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/
Off you go and own the libs!!!!![]()
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/brea ... 270885007/
Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested April 25 by federal authorities who are investigating whether she tried to help an undocumented immigrant avoid arrest after he appeared in her courtroom last week, officials confirmed.
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Similar with a former new Mexico judge. Apparently rented to one of the guys deported to El Salvador.geordie_6 wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:29 pm https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/brea ... 270885007/
Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested April 25 by federal authorities who are investigating whether she tried to help an undocumented immigrant avoid arrest after he appeared in her courtroom last week, officials confirmed.
Ho Lee fuck!!!!!
https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2 ... ranscript/
Long read, but just highlights his ignorance..


https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2 ... ranscript/
Long read, but just highlights his ignorance..
I love watching little children running and screaming, playing hide and seek in the playground.
They don't know I'm using blanks..
They don't know I'm using blanks..
Jesus H, he is a retardTB63 wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:02 pm Ho Lee fuck!!!!!![]()
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https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2 ... ranscript/
Long read, but just highlights his ignorance..
Trump admin has restored the deemed ''flagrantly illegal" student visa terminations.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/2 ... s-00309407
Impossible to keep up with it all tbf.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/2 ... s-00309407
Impossible to keep up with it all tbf.
Good to see the checks and balances workingFlockwitt wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:33 pm Trump admin has restored the deemed ''flagrantly illegal" student visa terminations.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/2 ... s-00309407
Impossible to keep up with it all tbf.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
This is literally unbelievable. Only about 1/3rd of the way through, but utterly insaneTB63 wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:02 pm Ho Lee fuck!!!!!![]()
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https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2 ... ranscript/
Long read, but just highlights his ignorance..
Quite enjoying. It to be honest, just feels as if it’s written by the greatest satirist ever. Biggly
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Could barely read that far. Because the interviewer has some quite piercing questions Orange Fuckwit gives a complete diametric opposite answer to, and he doesn't follow a single one up.Slick wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:57 pmThis is literally unbelievable. Only about 1/3rd of the way through, but utterly insaneTB63 wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:02 pm Ho Lee fuck!!!!!![]()
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https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2 ... ranscript/
Long read, but just highlights his ignorance..
Quite enjoying. It to be honest, just feels as if it’s written by the greatest satirist ever. Biggly
Just because he gives moronic, unrelated identical answers you don't give the twat a pass. Repeat with specifics and call out the chaff.
I dunno, it’s a piece for moderately intelligent people so maybe better to watch him hang himself over and overlemonhead wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:03 pmCould barely read that far. Because the interviewer has some quite piercing questions Orange Fuckwit gives a complete diametric opposite answer to, and he doesn't follow a single one up.Slick wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:57 pmThis is literally unbelievable. Only about 1/3rd of the way through, but utterly insaneTB63 wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:02 pm Ho Lee fuck!!!!!![]()
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https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2 ... ranscript/
Long read, but just highlights his ignorance..
Quite enjoying. It to be honest, just feels as if it’s written by the greatest satirist ever. Biggly
Just because he gives moronic, unrelated identical answers you don't give the twat a pass. Repeat with specifics and call out the chaff.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul