2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup

[Camroc2]

Barrett is still under contract to the NZRU, and Leinster are paying him a top up for his six months or so in Dublin which has been reported to be in the region of € 250k. So he gets his normal NZRU contract payments, plus the € 250k for his 6 months. He also had what was essentially an off-season break during the 6 Nations.

...and Snyman and Slimani who aren't being paid by their respective unions?

Snyman was let go by Munster after playing a grand total of 373 minutes over four injury wrecked seasons (at allegedly € 400k per season). His agent approached the other Irish provinces as he wanted to stay in Ireland because his wife is doing her tax exams with PWC here (I think). Leinster offered him a pay for play contract, given his injury profile. He has to date played 464 minutes for Leinster in this season, and has had his contract extended, no doubt on more normal terms, for next season.

Thirty five year old Slimani had announced his retirement from playing at Clermont, when Leinster made a late approach and he changed his mind. It is understood (I know, sources.......) that Leinster made a commitment to give him a coaching role when he finally retires. TBH he has far exceeded expectations, which were that he would be used with B/C team to add a bit of old school forward play. He got called up to the French squad, for the first time since 2019, for this years 6N. Who knew that not overplaying front row forwards allows them to play better !

[Slick]

I'm not really sure why people have an issue with the Irish system. It was up to all the unions to find a way that worked for them and Ireland certainly did.

Still hate the cunts, but fair play.

[Slick]

I'm not really sure why people have an issue with the Irish system. It was up to all the unions to find a way that worked for them and Ireland certainly did.

Still hate the cunts, but fair play.

[PornDog]

That very few schools play rugby in either country is unarguable, in both cases we’re discussing the small minority of private schools and how they shape up sports wise. And I’m not suggesting nothing but rugby is offered at say Blackrock, I’m saying that the school’s focus is pretty relentless on rugby in terms of high performance. This isn’t really the case in England where cricket in particular siphons off a lot of those resources.

yeah very true. And while soccer is big over here (and cricket does exist), nowehere near as much over there. But then again we have the GAA, which in most of the country is equivalent to Soccer in England, or rugby in the South of France - real tribal shit!

I mean that's only really true in a very small number of schools. Michael's certainly (and only recently - they were almost as shite as us back in the day), and Blackrock has always had a huge focus on rugby (though again just looking at the sheer number of sports they offer is enlightening). They're really the only two standouts and you're onto [daylight] territory off after those two. Belvedere and Terenure would be a famous names traditionally, as would Castleknock, but at best would currently be on a par with the better Ulster schools (which is not a denigration at all, but it's also nothing to be harping on about in the press). St. Mary's have huge hockey programs (as well as other sports of course) that would probably be close in scale to their rugby one, which is nothing special - Johnny Sexton and Denis Hickey (and Statto) being Alumns aside. You've newcomers then like Newbridge who are starting to produce players.

In reality you'd need your second hand, but wouldn't be getting close to taking off your shoes and socks to count the schools in Leinster that take rugby seriously and are any good. Again with only two real standouts.

My own school at the time had about 400 students total, and during first year induction everyone was encouraged to try rugby - to the point that they requested a parents note to be excluded. But there would have been a big enough drop off in numbers even throughout first year, let alone in subsequent ones. That and we lost about 90%+ of our games (I did play for the second team though - the firsts did slightly better than us, but not by that much).

Blackrock has always been the big outlier though, they've won about 50% of all of the Senior Cups and have probably produced more test Lions than most clubs have. Everyone else are also rans with occasional flourishes.

[Kawazaki]

I did.

And it's just the usual shit of English journo's saying that the English system of private benefactors (with some RFU money) funding is fairer/better/whatever than the Irish system of IRFU funding (with some private benefactor money).

Given the number of 'quotes' from 'insiders', 'sources', 'informed sources', and the like; and the 'finger in the air' valuations of what Leinster players might earn, on the market in the English system, I'd take the entire article with several large grains of salt.

There's no transparency to the Irish system whatsoever. It's all cloak and dagger diplomacy to conceal finances. And as an Irish fan, you're all completely fine with that.

[PornDog]

I'm not really sure why people have an issue with the Irish system. It was up to all the unions to find a way that worked for them and Ireland certainly did.

Still hate the cunts, but fair play.

Ah sure don't you love us really though

[PornDog]

I did.

And it's just the usual shit of English journo's saying that the English system of private benefactors (with some RFU money) funding is fairer/better/whatever than the Irish system of IRFU funding (with some private benefactor money).

Given the number of 'quotes' from 'insiders', 'sources', 'informed sources', and the like; and the 'finger in the air' valuations of what Leinster players might earn, on the market in the English system, I'd take the entire article with several large grains of salt.

There's no transparency to the Irish system whatsoever. It's all cloak and dagger diplomacy to conceal finances. And as an Irish fan, you're all completely fine with that.

[Camroc2]

I did.

And it's just the usual shit of English journo's saying that the English system of private benefactors (with some RFU money) funding is fairer/better/whatever than the Irish system of IRFU funding (with some private benefactor money).

Given the number of 'quotes' from 'insiders', 'sources', 'informed sources', and the like; and the 'finger in the air' valuations of what Leinster players might earn, on the market in the English system, I'd take the entire article with several large grains of salt.

There's no transparency to the Irish system whatsoever. It's all cloak and dagger diplomacy to conceal finances. And as an Irish fan, you're all completely fine with that.

Private contracts in remaining private shocker !

[Kawazaki]

I did.

And it's just the usual shit of English journo's saying that the English system of private benefactors (with some RFU money) funding is fairer/better/whatever than the Irish system of IRFU funding (with some private benefactor money).

Given the number of 'quotes' from 'insiders', 'sources', 'informed sources', and the like; and the 'finger in the air' valuations of what Leinster players might earn, on the market in the English system, I'd take the entire article with several large grains of salt.

There's no transparency to the Irish system whatsoever. It's all cloak and dagger diplomacy to conceal finances. And as an Irish fan, you're all completely fine with that.

Private contracts in remaining private shocker !

Given the transparency of the other leagues, yes it is a shocker.

[SaintK]

. Slimani was retiring and going into coaching, so he probably didn't have many offers. He originally thought his agent meant Leicester when told of Leinster's interest, so I'm sure playing for Leinster had its attraction as well. Again, wont be peanuts, but wont be a huge salary either.

[PornDog]

. Slimani was retiring and going into coaching, so he probably didn't have many offers. He originally thought his agent meant Leicester when told of Leinster's interest, so I'm sure playing for Leinster had its attraction as well. Again, wont be peanuts, but wont be a huge salary either.

We've all done it - had to do a double take to make sure we heard right. He gave an interview himself saying it, don't know if it was for French media or what, but he was directly quoted.

[caleb221]

Yep, the whole Irish vs. English system debate is getting old. Private contracts are private, no surprise there. It’s what works for each union, even if it’s all kept a bit hush-hush.

[robmatic]

I did.

And it's just the usual shit of English journo's saying that the English system of private benefactors (with some RFU money) funding is fairer/better/whatever than the Irish system of IRFU funding (with some private benefactor money).

Given the number of 'quotes' from 'insiders', 'sources', 'informed sources', and the like; and the 'finger in the air' valuations of what Leinster players might earn, on the market in the English system, I'd take the entire article with several large grains of salt.

There's no transparency to the Irish system whatsoever. It's all cloak and dagger diplomacy to conceal finances. And as an Irish fan, you're all completely fine with that.

It's not like they are going out hoovering up players on the global market to pack their squads with though, is it? Or do you think it's bang out of order for them to be paying decent salaries to players who came through their own academies or something?

[Slick]

There's no transparency to the Irish system whatsoever. It's all cloak and dagger diplomacy to conceal finances. And as an Irish fan, you're all completely fine with that.

Private contracts in remaining private shocker !

Given the transparency of the other leagues, yes it is a shocker.

More property deals needed. You fucking joker

[Uncle fester]

Look we get it that Leinster are the England of European rugby with more braying than silverware and thoroughly dislikeable but that article...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_ ... prov=sfla1

Weirdly, the writer on xitter is admitting some of the issues but then doubling down. Hard to know if he's thick or just a bad actor.

[Kawazaki]

It's not like they are going out hoovering up players on the global market to pack their squads with though, is it?

Contepomi, Elsom, Lowe, Thorn, Gibson-Park, Snyman, Barrett, Slimani, Ioane.

They can do what they like - just be transparent what they are being paid.

[Oxbow]

Looking forward to this, and very much not looking forward to this

[sockwithaticket]

Freeman just cannot stop scoring. Great set up by Smith.

[Oxbow]

That was most pleasant.

[Deepsouth]

The reality is you are not that very good really. 1 World Cup from 10 should give you some indication. But it doesn't does it :bimbo.

[Slick]

Predegast really is hilariously shite at tackling

[Oxbow]

The reality is you are not that very good really. 1 World Cup from 10 should give you some indication. But it doesn't does it :bimbo.

Fuck off out of this thread.

[Oxbow]

The commentary team seem very keen to fellate Leinster.

[Slick]

I’m maybe a couple of seasons out of touch, but I didn’t think you could take a quick tap from a scrum penalty

[Slick]

Prendegast again

[Slick]

That’s ridiculous, you can’t wave the ball around, throwing dummies from the floor, it’s meant to be instant

[Oxbow]

That was hilarious.

[sockwithaticket]

With the amount of bitching about him Leinster fans have done lately, that is such a sweet, sweet try for Pollock.

[PornDog]

That’s ridiculous, you can’t wave the ball around, throwing dummies from the floor, it’s meant to be instant

Inclined to agree. Lovely bit of play all the same though

[Tichtheid]

Great pace from Pollock, he's been getting schooled up till now, but that was good

[Conor]

It's not like they are going out hoovering up players on the global market to pack their squads with though, is it?

Contepomi, Elsom, Lowe, Thorn, Gibson-Park, Snyman, Barrett, Slimani, Ioane.

They can do what they like - just be transparent what they are being paid.

You are going back over 15 years and you have 9 players. One who has not even arrived.
It's the most feeble of efforts from you.

[Slick]

Not going to say it again

Must admit, was just about to post that Pollock is being bossed and looks a bit of a show pony….. but fair play

[PornDog]

With the amount of bitching about him Leinster fans have done lately, that is such a sweet, sweet try for Pollock.

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[sockwithaticket]

With the amount of bitching about him Leinster fans have done lately, that is such a sweet, sweet try for Pollock.

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The Leinster lads on reddit (and there are a lot of them) have been frothing.

[sockwithaticket]

Freeman on the end of another great move.

[Oxbow]

Freeman has to be one of the Lions wings.

[Slick]

Haven’t seen them for a long time, but loving watching Northampton, just great rugby

[sockwithaticket]

Freeman has to be one of the Lions wings.

It would be insane to ignore a guy on his kind of hot streak.

Hat trick try as I type!

[sockwithaticket]

Pretty big half from Saints. Don't think anyone would've had them 2 scores ahead at the break. Remains to be seen if they can keep it up.

[Kawazaki]

It's not like they are going out hoovering up players on the global market to pack their squads with though, is it?

Contepomi, Elsom, Lowe, Thorn, Gibson-Park, Snyman, Barrett, Slimani, Ioane.

They can do what they like - just be transparent what they are being paid.

You are going back over 15 years and you have 9 players. One who has not even arrived.
It's the most feeble of efforts from you.

What are they paid?

Quite simple. Transparency.