The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[Big D]

Watson gets a new one year deal.

[Tichtheid]

Watson gets a new one year deal.

For me the interesting quotes were about his role in mentoring the young back rows that are coming through, in Douglas, McConnell and Currie Edinburgh have some really promising talent (Douglas is ready to start for Edinburgh). McVie could well end up as a 4/6 type player too.

The bottom line is of course giving them game time.

[robmatic]

Watson gets a new one year deal.

I read somewhere that there was a clause in his contract that earned him a year's extension after a certain number of appearances.

A few months ago I would have grumbled about this, but he has been very good recently and with Ritchie away it will be useful to still have him in the squad.

[Big D]

Watson gets a new one year deal.

For me the interesting quotes were about his role in mentoring the young back rows that are coming through, in Douglas, McConnell and Currie Edinburgh have some really promising talent (Douglas is ready to start for Edinburgh). McVie could well end up as a 4/6 type player too.

The bottom line is of course giving them game time.

If it is a mentoring role then great. My concern is that Douglas really needs let loose next year to play 15+ games and develop. In any other country they'd be pushing him.

Rolling out a 34 year old Watson ahead of the young talent for potential marginal short term benefit is a typical Edinburgh thing to do.

[KingBlairhorn]

Watson gets a new one year deal.

For me the interesting quotes were about his role in mentoring the young back rows that are coming through, in Douglas, McConnell and Currie Edinburgh have some really promising talent (Douglas is ready to start for Edinburgh). McVie could well end up as a 4/6 type player too.

The bottom line is of course giving them game time.

If it is a mentoring role then great. My concern is that Douglas really needs let loose next year to play 15+ games and develop. In any other country they'd be pushing him.

Rolling out a 34 year old Watson ahead of the young talent for potential marginal short term benefit is a typical Edinburgh thing to do.

To be fair I think he would have come close to 15 appearances this year for Edinburgh if not for injury. He's played in 7 I think plus the U20s which is okay. I do think he needs to be starting games though which is I think your point.

[Tichtheid]

For me the interesting quotes were about his role in mentoring the young back rows that are coming through, in Douglas, McConnell and Currie Edinburgh have some really promising talent (Douglas is ready to start for Edinburgh). McVie could well end up as a 4/6 type player too.

The bottom line is of course giving them game time.

If it is a mentoring role then great. My concern is that Douglas really needs let loose next year to play 15+ games and develop. In any other country they'd be pushing him.

Rolling out a 34 year old Watson ahead of the young talent for potential marginal short term benefit is a typical Edinburgh thing to do.

To be fair I think he would have come close to 15 appearances this year for Edinburgh if not for injury. He's played in 7 I think plus the U20s which is okay. I do think he needs to be starting games though which is I think your point.

7 for Edinburgh, 5 for Scotland - full cap, A cap, 3 U20s caps.

I see very little risk in starting him against Bath tomorrow, especially alongside Ritchie and Maggie, but of course he won't. The best he'll get is ten minutes off the bench. Ritchie, Muncaster and Watson are all available.

I'd sideline Watson for this, start Muncaster and Ritchie and bring Douglas on for at the very least half an hour

[robmatic]

If it is a mentoring role then great. My concern is that Douglas really needs let loose next year to play 15+ games and develop. In any other country they'd be pushing him.

Rolling out a 34 year old Watson ahead of the young talent for potential marginal short term benefit is a typical Edinburgh thing to do.

To be fair I think he would have come close to 15 appearances this year for Edinburgh if not for injury. He's played in 7 I think plus the U20s which is okay. I do think he needs to be starting games though which is I think your point.

7 for Edinburgh, 5 for Scotland - full cap, A cap, 3 U20s caps.

I see very little risk in starting him against Bath tomorrow, especially alongside Ritchie and Maggie, but of course he won't. The best he'll get is ten minutes off the bench. Ritchie, Muncaster and Watson are all available.

I'd sideline Watson for this, start Muncaster and Ritchie and bring Douglas on for at the very least half an hour

I wouldn't start Muncaster after that yellow card against Zebre but then again we might want his physicality.

[Big D]

For me the interesting quotes were about his role in mentoring the young back rows that are coming through, in Douglas, McConnell and Currie Edinburgh have some really promising talent (Douglas is ready to start for Edinburgh). McVie could well end up as a 4/6 type player too.

The bottom line is of course giving them game time.

If it is a mentoring role then great. My concern is that Douglas really needs let loose next year to play 15+ games and develop. In any other country they'd be pushing him.

Rolling out a 34 year old Watson ahead of the young talent for potential marginal short term benefit is a typical Edinburgh thing to do.

To be fair I think he would have come close to 15 appearances this year for Edinburgh if not for injury. He's played in 7 I think plus the U20s which is okay. I do think he needs to be starting games though which is I think your point.

I maybe should have qualified with quality appearances. Seven Edinburgh appearances averaging 15min a game needs improving.

Considering Crosbie, Muncaser and I guess Boyle who can play 7 have all had injuries too I'm just worried his route to maximising his potential isn't clear. He is one we should be clearing the way for.

For that talented a kid to have one club start when he has that potential is frustrating regardless of age even accepting he has had an injury.

[I like neeps]

Very curious that Hamish Watson has been frozen out early in the season to stop a contract clause being triggered, but now he's starting weekly and has a new contract. Class act so maybe it's the best decision and unless you're running a 6/2 a specialist 7 on the bench with a specialist 7 starting isn't a great plan but still disappointing Douglas isn't playing more.

[robmatic]

Very curious that Hamish Watson has been frozen out early in the season to stop a contract clause being triggered, but now he's starting weekly and has a new contract. Class act so maybe it's the best decision and unless you're running a 6/2 a specialist 7 on the bench with a specialist 7 starting isn't a great plan but still disappointing Douglas isn't playing more.

I presume the plan was to let him go at the end of the season but then Ritchie said cheerio so they reconsidered.

[KingBlairhorn]

If it is a mentoring role then great. My concern is that Douglas really needs let loose next year to play 15+ games and develop. In any other country they'd be pushing him.

Rolling out a 34 year old Watson ahead of the young talent for potential marginal short term benefit is a typical Edinburgh thing to do.

To be fair I think he would have come close to 15 appearances this year for Edinburgh if not for injury. He's played in 7 I think plus the U20s which is okay. I do think he needs to be starting games though which is I think your point.

I maybe should have qualified with quality appearances. Seven Edinburgh appearances averaging 15min a game needs improving.

Considering Crosbie, Muncaser and I guess Boyle who can play 7 have all had injuries too I'm just worried his route to maximising his potential isn't clear. He is one we should be clearing the way for.

For that talented a kid to have one club start when he has that potential is frustrating regardless of age even accepting he has had an injury.

I definitely agree. Look at Henry Pollock, a player that Douglas completely dominated when they went head to head at U20 level, he has 11 pro starts and 18 pro appearances this year as well as a test start in the 6N. He will be playing in the Champions Cup semi this weekend. He's is being (ludicrously in my view but that's not the point) talked about as a potential Lions bolter. We are discussing whether Douglas might get a start for an Edinburgh team significantly more likely to shit the bed than to win a match.

[BagfordViper]

Pollock is clearly an exceptionally gifted and able player, with a great career ahead of him. Indeed there's so much smoke being blown up his arse, they should send him to the Vatican. They'd have a new pope in no time.

[duke]

Pollock is clearly an exceptionally gifted and able player, with a great career ahead of him. Indeed there's so much smoke being blown up his arse, they should send him to the Vatican. They'd have a new pope in no time.

He’s perfectly capable of blowing the smoke up his own arse without needing the cheerleaders as well

[Tichtheid]

Pollock is clearly an exceptionally gifted and able player, with a great career ahead of him. Indeed there's so much smoke being blown up his arse, they should send him to the Vatican. They'd have a new pope in no time.

He’s perfectly capable of blowing the smoke up his own arse without needing the cheerleaders as well

To be honest I don't think he'd get a game for Edinburgh, not ahead of Ritchie, Watson, Crosbie, Muncaster, Boyle or Douglas. He wouldn't be ahead of the likes of Darge, Fagerson, Vailanu, Venter etc at Glasgow either - I've left out the 8s as Pollock isn't an 8.

Good luck to the guy, I think he is going to be very good, but I hope he doesn't read his own press.

[I like neeps]

Pollock is clearly an exceptionally gifted and able player, with a great career ahead of him. Indeed there's so much smoke being blown up his arse, they should send him to the Vatican. They'd have a new pope in no time.

He’s perfectly capable of blowing the smoke up his own arse without needing the cheerleaders as well

To be honest I don't think he'd get a game for Edinburgh, not ahead of Ritchie, Watson, Crosbie, Muncaster, Boyle or Douglas. He wouldn't be ahead of the likes of Darge, Fagerson, Vailanu, Venter etc at Glasgow either - I've left out the 8s as Pollock isn't an 8.

Good luck to the guy, I think he is going to be very good, but I hope he doesn't read his own press.

I disagree Pollock has been great for Northampton and deserves the credit and hype imo. Douglas outplayed him in the u20 head to head and it's disappointing he hasn't had the same faith shown in him by Everitt as Pollock has had from the Saints coaches. Pollock wouldn't get a game for Edinburgh because of the risk averse coaching. But none of the players mentioned above for Glasgow and Edinburgh would start over Pollock for Northampton now either.

[Tichtheid]

He’s perfectly capable of blowing the smoke up his own arse without needing the cheerleaders as well

To be honest I don't think he'd get a game for Edinburgh, not ahead of Ritchie, Watson, Crosbie, Muncaster, Boyle or Douglas. He wouldn't be ahead of the likes of Darge, Fagerson, Vailanu, Venter etc at Glasgow either - I've left out the 8s as Pollock isn't an 8.

Good luck to the guy, I think he is going to be very good, but I hope he doesn't read his own press.

I disagree Pollock has been great for Northampton and deserves the credit and hype imo. Douglas outplayed him in the u20 head to head and it's disappointing he hasn't had the same faith shown in him by Everitt as Pollock has had from the Saints coaches. Pollock wouldn't get a game for Edinburgh because of the risk averse coaching. But none of the players mentioned above for Glasgow and Edinburgh would start over Pollock for Northampton now either.

That's mental - you're basically saying he'd walk into the Scotland backrow and that he really should be on the Lions tour.

[Biffer]

He’s perfectly capable of blowing the smoke up his own arse without needing the cheerleaders as well

To be honest I don't think he'd get a game for Edinburgh, not ahead of Ritchie, Watson, Crosbie, Muncaster, Boyle or Douglas. He wouldn't be ahead of the likes of Darge, Fagerson, Vailanu, Venter etc at Glasgow either - I've left out the 8s as Pollock isn't an 8.

Good luck to the guy, I think he is going to be very good, but I hope he doesn't read his own press.

I disagree Pollock has been great for Northampton and deserves the credit and hype imo. Douglas outplayed him in the u20 head to head and it's disappointing he hasn't had the same faith shown in him by Everitt as Pollock has had from the Saints coaches. Pollock wouldn't get a game for Edinburgh because of the risk averse coaching. But none of the players mentioned above for Glasgow and Edinburgh would start over Pollock for Northampton now either.

That's bollocks fella

[I like neeps]

To be honest I don't think he'd get a game for Edinburgh, not ahead of Ritchie, Watson, Crosbie, Muncaster, Boyle or Douglas. He wouldn't be ahead of the likes of Darge, Fagerson, Vailanu, Venter etc at Glasgow either - I've left out the 8s as Pollock isn't an 8.

Good luck to the guy, I think he is going to be very good, but I hope he doesn't read his own press.

I disagree Pollock has been great for Northampton and deserves the credit and hype imo. Douglas outplayed him in the u20 head to head and it's disappointing he hasn't had the same faith shown in him by Everitt as Pollock has had from the Saints coaches. Pollock wouldn't get a game for Edinburgh because of the risk averse coaching. But none of the players mentioned above for Glasgow and Edinburgh would start over Pollock for Northampton now either.

That's mental - you're basically saying he'd walk into the Scotland backrow and that he really should be on the Lions tour.

He'll likely be on the Lions tour and if he decided to declare for Scotland as he could have he'd be capped by now.

[Big D]

If Pollock had declared for Scotland whilst playing in the prem he'd be capped and possibly starting on the summer tour. I think Douglas will pile the pressure on Darge quickly too.

If he declared for Scotland and was playing for Edinburgh then Everitt would have given him a start in the Diddy euro cup and the odd subs experience.

[robmatic]

Edinburgh being really handicapped by a non-functioning lineout today.

[Yr Alban]

Edinburgh being really handicapped by a non-functioning lineout today.

I see Harry Patterson off after 4 mins. Hope he isn’t badly hurt? The kid has no luck with injuries.

[Slick]

Edinburgh being really handicapped by a non-functioning lineout today.

I see Harry Patterson off after 4 mins. Hope he isn’t badly hurt? The kid has no luck with injuries.

Failed HIA after a lively run and offload…

[Slick]

Edinburgh being really handicapped by a non-functioning lineout today.

Shitting the bed every time they see a defender isn’t helping either

[Big D]

Monster defensive set there.

[Big D]

That's a bullshit yellow and lacks any understanding of the game. He shouts release as he's taking the ball.

[Slick]

I must be a few minutes behind but very surprised that Bath try was over turned

[Slick]

That's a bullshit yellow and lacks any understanding of the game. He shouts release as he's taking the ball.

In saying that, I hadn’t noticed Skinner being particularly thick before, but he is particularly thick, that’s the 4th stupid penalty from him, even if that was borderline

[Yr Alban]

Superb effort from Embra there. I fear Bath will kill us off when they have the man advantage though.

[sockwithaticket]

That's a bullshit yellow and lacks any understanding of the game. He shouts release as he's taking the ball.

They were on a team warning.

[Yr Alban]

Edinburgh being really handicapped by a non-functioning lineout today.

Ashman is a great player, but his darts are horrific. It’s absolutely killing both Edinburgh and Scotland.

[Big D]

That's a bullshit yellow and lacks any understanding of the game. He shouts release as he's taking the ball.

They were on a team warning.

He said next pen under pressure yellow. Which was an odd way to put it. Imo that wasn't it.

[Slick]

That's a bullshit yellow and lacks any understanding of the game. He shouts release as he's taking the ball.

They were on a team warning.

He said next pen under pressure yellow. Which was an odd way to put it. Imo that wasn't it.

Yup, he specifically said in the red zone and Gilchrist even checked that with him.

Not sure how Underhill got the penalty for levitating there

[Yr Alban]

Ref has given Bath everything for the last 10 minutes. I suspect he’s been right every time, but it’s bloody frustrating

[Yr Alban]

Ref has given Bath everything for the last 10 minutes. I suspect he’s been right every time, but it’s bloody frustrating

Ignore me. As the commentators just observed, he stood there saying ‘no hands’ with du Toit’s hands all over the ball. No whistle. FFS.

[Yr Alban]

FFS again. Bath player can’t have been more than an inch off the ground when Ritchie hit him there. And then a pen for holding with no time given to recycle (my pet hate).

[PornDog]

Was I hearing things there - phase before the try did I hear on the ref mic "short you cunt!"

[Yr Alban]

Yet again, Edinburgh making brainless mistakes at the business end of a match. Losing that ball in midfield was criminal, and then falling off tackles to let in the try. What was the point in the massive effort if you’re going to do that?

[Tichtheid]

Yet again, Edinburgh making brainless mistakes at the business end of a match. Losing that ball in midfield was criminal, and then falling off tackles to let in the try. What was the point in the massive effort if you’re going to do that?

To be fair we had to score ten points to win, we had to chase the game and go for the Hail Marys. The game wasn't lost there, imo, it was in the inaccuracies in the lineout and the poor discipline which led to Bath scoring five tries from a few metres out.

We're playing with one hand tied behind our back if we are giving away possession and territory so easily

[Slick]

Did Freddie Douglas get on?

[Tichtheid]

Did Freddie Douglas get on?

He wasn't in the team, Muncaster was the backrow sub, he came on around the hour mark