Things that don't deserve their own thread

[Guy Smiley]

and now for something completely different...

[mat the expat]

and now for something completely different...

Having closed the pool for winter, I was actually looking at RC boats at the hobbystore at the weekend

[Guy Smiley]

Have a watch of that clip... she's a story worth knowing.

[mat the expat]

Have a watch of that clip... she's a story worth knowing.

I will!

I can see me recreating the Battle of Trafalgar on it in a few years!

[Slick]

Good to hear!

Yes, maintaining the rage is a thing - but at the very least, if he drops it later, most people return to it as adults

We went down to the clubs outdoor course for the first time at the weekend, absolutely amazing! It's situated in a corner of a stately home in stunning countryside. The actual area the club has is half wooded, half kind of grassland with a couple of small rivers running through it in a valley. We have 28 targets set up around the area (including 3D animal type things), a practice area and a lovely wee clubhouse with BBQ facilities. Totally private for club members and we were the only ones there on a sunny afternoon. Blown away by it.

Nice setup - I've just started shooting, Japanese style, at the local archery centre - it's an old quarry smack bang next to the largest hospital here (handy!)

I was the only one there last Saturday:

First outdoor competition of the season. The boy won his age group and I won the adult novice group!

[mat the expat]

First outdoor competition of the season. The boy won his age group and I won the adult novice group!

Hooked!

[Niegs]

This was a wild thing for the ol' algorithm to pitch to me!

[Sandstorm]

That’s crazy pre-school teaching!!!

[Kiwias]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/wom5jqf9 ... f60faca477

[Gumboot]

Reminded me of the "nark dog" scene in Drugstore Cowboy.

Police in Ohio were surprised to discover a pet raccoon called Chewy with a meth pipe in its mouth during a traffic stop in the town of Springfield.

In a statement, Springfield Township police department said that one of its officers, Austin Branham, made the stop after spotting a vehicle whose owner had an active warrant and a suspended driver’s license...

“As Officer Branham returned to the vehicle, he observed a raccoon named ‘Chewy’ sitting in the driver’s seat with a meth pipe in its mouth. Chewy had somehow gotten hold of a glass methamphetamine pipe, leading officers to further inspect the vehicle.”

Police then discovered a bulk amount of methamphetamine, some crack cocaine and three used glass meth pipes.

[fishfoodie]

16 year old arrested.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... dApp_Other

I always found vandals to be the most senseless and despicable criminals. Whatever the maximum sentence is I hope this little Cnut gets it.

The UK's contenders for the Worlds dumbest criminals.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvg93k0950pt

Texting about it,
Keeping the wedge as a "Trophy",
and shooting a video of your crimes

4 & a half hours of deliberations, & still no verdict

[Kiwias]

For anyone using chatgpt, what is your preferred one? my wife suggested OpenAI but it is owned by Musk so I am not so keen on using it.

Any suggestions would be welcome/

[fishfoodie]

For anyone using chatgpt, what is your preferred one? my wife suggested OpenAI but it is owned by Musk so I am not so keen on using it.

Any suggestions would be welcome/

Not for some time, he had a spat with everyone else because he wanted to take complete control of it. He has since bolted on his own AI onto twitter, & it's called Grok, & it's the AI chatbot for incels.

Which one to use is based on what you want to do with it ?

ChatGPT & Microsofts Copilot are both good starting points

[Sinkers]

Admittedly he taught in China for a while and has a much more positive view of the PRC than I do, but my neighbour swears by Deepseek.

[PornDog]

Depends on what you want to use it for I guess. ChatGPT is very good, as is Ask Claude. China's Deep Seek is a little rough around the edges but there are signs of improvement. Copy.ai is also decent if its writing you are looking for (articles, blogs, website copy etc.)

[Blackmac]

My daughter and son in law leased a Ford Explorer EV three months ago. Mainly because he has a 90 mile round trip to his work. They only had it few weeks when lots of fault lights came up on the dashboard. Cue a trip to the Ford dealer in Edinburgh who stated that there is a software problem which is affecting the vast majority of these cars. They are now approaching 8 weeks without the vehicle as it would appear whilst Ford are quite happy to flog these cars they aren't so keen in training up enough technicians to cope and the few that they do have are travelling the country trying to sort all the bricks lying in their rear courtyards. Just another fly in the ointment of electric vehicles.

[Guy Smiley]

My daughter and son in law leased a Ford Explorer EV three months ago. Mainly because he has a 90 mile round trip to his work. They only had it few weeks when lots of fault lights came up on the dashboard. Cue a trip to the Ford dealer in Edinburgh who stated that there is a software problem which is affecting the vast majority of these cars. They are now approaching 8 weeks without the vehicle as it would appear whilst Ford are quite happy to flog these cars they aren't so keen in training up enough technicians to cope and the few that they do have are travelling the country trying to sort all the bricks lying in their rear courtyards. Just another fly in the ointment of electric vehicles.

They bought a Ford. That's your fly in the ointment.

https://www.wired.com/story/ford-electr ... est-drive/

Meanwhile, I've just passed 60000km in my Chinese EV and haven't had an issue.

[Blackmac]

My daughter and son in law leased a Ford Explorer EV three months ago. Mainly because he has a 90 mile round trip to his work. They only had it few weeks when lots of fault lights came up on the dashboard. Cue a trip to the Ford dealer in Edinburgh who stated that there is a software problem which is affecting the vast majority of these cars. They are now approaching 8 weeks without the vehicle as it would appear whilst Ford are quite happy to flog these cars they aren't so keen in training up enough technicians to cope and the few that they do have are travelling the country trying to sort all the bricks lying in their rear courtyards. Just another fly in the ointment of electric vehicles.

They bought a Ford. That's your fly in the ointment.

https://www.wired.com/story/ford-electr ... est-drive/

Meanwhile, I've just passed 60000km in my Chinese EV and haven't had an issue.

Leased, thank god. Yeah I tried to steer them to the BYD or Omeda route but they liked the look of the Ford.

[Biffer]

Former president of Uruguay has died. A quite remarkable man in many ways, I've always found his story, and his attitude to the presidency, hugely interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j71402z58o

[Slick]

Former president of Uruguay has died. A quite remarkable man in many ways, I've always found his story, and his attitude to the presidency, hugely interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j71402z58o

A good mate of mine was the British Ambassador at the tail end of his Presidency and liked him. Said he was more loved overseas than at home. Was also suspected of being behind the kidnapping of an earlier Ambassador for 12 months, which must have been awkward

[tabascoboy]

I...don't know what to think about this. Evri aka ex Hermes have a pretty well deserved reputation of being largely shit, especially with near non existent customer complaints handling. That said I've had a many deliveries from them on time and without issues so service could well vary according to how the local depot is run. Never had any issues with DHL, mostly the global service with orders from overseas that have excellent and detailed tracking and have always arrived either on the estimated date of delivery or the day before.

Will this improve Evri or will DHL go down the shitter now...?

Couriers Evri and DHL merge to form UK delivery giant

Evri will merge with DHL's UK parcel delivery business to create a combined courier firm handling more than a billion parcels and a billion letters a year.

DHL focuses on faster, secure higher-value deliveries of items such as computers or phones, whereas Evri handles much larger volumes of lower-value goods such as clothing.

Evri's deliveries are handled by self-employed couriers using their own vehicles, while DHL's parcels are delivered by a combination of couriers and the company's own fleet of vehicles.

The companies hope that combining the two operations will offer "greater choice" and "cost-competitive solutions" in the UK.

Evri said the deal will also expand its international delivery capacity by giving it access to DHL's global network.

DHL's e-commerce business will be renamed "Evri Premium – a network of DHL eCommerce".

DHL delivers a billion letters a year in the UK, mainly for businesses sending out bulk mail to clients – and the merger will see Evri offer a letter service for the first time.

It hopes to use this service to handle deliveries of smaller items as well as letters.

The group said its combined operation will have access to a network of 15,000 out-of-home delivery points in shops and lockers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwywd2wzxp2o

[ScarfaceClaw]

DHL focuses on faster, secure higher-value deliveries of items such as computers or phones

Which is why I had three separate laptops deliveries go missing at the DHL depot. All recorded as received but no further record. Refused to take any responsibility for it and I had to sort it out myself with the merchant. DHL can eat a bag of dicks.

[fishfoodie]

Every now & then the US Justice system does something I heartly agree with !



The comments below this video show I'm far from alone in think this is completely the correct response to someone repeatedly attempting murder, & never being stopped.

[Biffer]

Oh dear, what a shame, nevermind.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... es-393241/

[fishfoodie]

A car recently presented for its NCT failed after mechanics discovered it had been partly repaired with gaffer tape and a stick.

Preparing for an NCT can certainly be a bit of a headache, as any small defect could cause a car to fail. This is followed by a trip to the mechanic, which can leave motorists a few hundred quid out of pocket and praying they won't be sent back for another retest.

As a result, many people have tried to fool NCT testers, and there have been a few pretty clever attempts over the years. This isn't one of them.

Once the car was lifted to inspect the undercarriage, the botched repair job became immediately obvious. A section of the car's anti-roll bar had been replaced with a finger-thin stick secured at each end by loose bundles of tape. The NCT have declined to say which centre dealt with this imaginative repair, but it was in a centre in the south of Ireland.

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/ ... r-31653421

[Guy Smiley]

Maybe this deserves its own thread... Wayne Smith on recovery. Quite insightful, referring to what they worked on in his time as coach of the ABs and its pertinence to work and life.

[fishfoodie]

See this is an illustration of how even the bright shiny new Sinn Fein, who no longer contain too many convicted murderers as active Politicians, are still completely captured by their bullshit dogma !

Nearly nine centuries after the Normans clanked ashore with swords and armour, Ireland is still wrestling with the question: what did they ever do for us?

A decision by the government this week to join a European cultural initiative called 2027 European year of the Normans has reopened a debate that goes to the core of Irish identity.

On the one hand, say historians, they built castles and cathedrals and enriched culture and literature; on the other, they dispossessed the native Gaels and paved the way to invasion and occupation.

Sinn Féin, the main opposition party, said the commemoration was offensive because it would honour William the Conqueror, England’s first Norman king, and the subjugation inflicted by his successors.

“What will they think of next: a festival of Cromwell? A Famine Queen jubilee?” said the party’s culture spokesperson, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, referencing Oliver Cromwell’s bloody 17th-century conquests and Queen Victoria’s reign during the 1840s famine.

“We Irish know well enough the legacy of William’s successors invading and subjugating Ireland in the name of his English crown, with Strongbow ushering in the 900 years of occupation, with the north still under the descendants of William the Conqueror’s crown.”

Strongbow was the nickname of Richard de Clare, the second Earl of Pembroke, who landed with an Anglo-Norman military force in 1170 and unleashed historical forces that in the 20th century partitioned the island and left Northern Ireland in the UK.

However, the Normans also intermarried with Gaels, bequeathed family names such as Burke, Griffith, FitzGerald, Lynch and Walsh, and became, in a celebrated phrase, “more Irish than the Irish themselves”.

The heritage minister, James Browne, who on Tuesday obtained cabinet approval for participation in the trans-European initiative, said Sinn Féin was missing the point. Ireland’s lands, laws, monuments and built environment bore Norman heritage, and participation in the initiative would recognise that history while boosting tourism, he said.

“The year of the Normans is being led by our neighbours in Normandy, France, and it is an important and essential collaboration and commemoration – any distortion of this work is really disappointing and careless,” said Browne – a Norman name. “So let’s ask: is Sinn Féin’s position that they will boycott all events related to the year of the Normans?”

In addition to Ireland, the Normandy regional council has invited Britain, southern Italy, Norway and other countries and regions with Norman heritage to take part in the commemoration, which coincides with the millennium anniversary of William the Conqueror’s birth.

Ó Snodaigh said: “Marking the birth of a future English king is not for us, even if it was 1,000 years ago. Rather, we should always be remembering those great figures of Ireland’s past who actually lived here and contributed positively to our island story.”

The row has prompted comparisons to the scene in Monty Python’s Life of Brian when Judeans debate the benefits of Roman occupation.

Jane Ohlmeyer, a Trinity College Dublin historian who specialises in early modern Irish and British history, said the Norman invasion profoundly shaped the history of Ireland, especially in the south-east.

“Like it or not, the past is no longer in the past, it is in the present. It is critical that we use opportunities like this one to better understand the nature of the conquest and to reflect on its legacies,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... h-identity

So are Sinn Fein saying that their beef is actually with the French ?, because everyone but them seems to grasp that thats where, "The Normans" came from !

And aren't they just conveniently forgetting the hundreds & thousands of people with Norman surnames who supported Irish Independence over the centuries ?

They aren't fit to run a sweet shop let alone a Country.

[Uncle fester]

See this is an illustration of how even the bright shiny new Sinn Fein, who no longer contain too many convicted murderers as active Politicians, are still completely captured by their bullshit dogma !

Nearly nine centuries after the Normans clanked ashore with swords and armour, Ireland is still wrestling with the question: what did they ever do for us?

A decision by the government this week to join a European cultural initiative called 2027 European year of the Normans has reopened a debate that goes to the core of Irish identity.

On the one hand, say historians, they built castles and cathedrals and enriched culture and literature; on the other, they dispossessed the native Gaels and paved the way to invasion and occupation.

Sinn Féin, the main opposition party, said the commemoration was offensive because it would honour William the Conqueror, England’s first Norman king, and the subjugation inflicted by his successors.

“What will they think of next: a festival of Cromwell? A Famine Queen jubilee?” said the party’s culture spokesperson, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, referencing Oliver Cromwell’s bloody 17th-century conquests and Queen Victoria’s reign during the 1840s famine.

“We Irish know well enough the legacy of William’s successors invading and subjugating Ireland in the name of his English crown, with Strongbow ushering in the 900 years of occupation, with the north still under the descendants of William the Conqueror’s crown.”

Strongbow was the nickname of Richard de Clare, the second Earl of Pembroke, who landed with an Anglo-Norman military force in 1170 and unleashed historical forces that in the 20th century partitioned the island and left Northern Ireland in the UK.

However, the Normans also intermarried with Gaels, bequeathed family names such as Burke, Griffith, FitzGerald, Lynch and Walsh, and became, in a celebrated phrase, “more Irish than the Irish themselves”.

The heritage minister, James Browne, who on Tuesday obtained cabinet approval for participation in the trans-European initiative, said Sinn Féin was missing the point. Ireland’s lands, laws, monuments and built environment bore Norman heritage, and participation in the initiative would recognise that history while boosting tourism, he said.

“The year of the Normans is being led by our neighbours in Normandy, France, and it is an important and essential collaboration and commemoration – any distortion of this work is really disappointing and careless,” said Browne – a Norman name. “So let’s ask: is Sinn Féin’s position that they will boycott all events related to the year of the Normans?”

In addition to Ireland, the Normandy regional council has invited Britain, southern Italy, Norway and other countries and regions with Norman heritage to take part in the commemoration, which coincides with the millennium anniversary of William the Conqueror’s birth.

Ó Snodaigh said: “Marking the birth of a future English king is not for us, even if it was 1,000 years ago. Rather, we should always be remembering those great figures of Ireland’s past who actually lived here and contributed positively to our island story.”

The row has prompted comparisons to the scene in Monty Python’s Life of Brian when Judeans debate the benefits of Roman occupation.

Jane Ohlmeyer, a Trinity College Dublin historian who specialises in early modern Irish and British history, said the Norman invasion profoundly shaped the history of Ireland, especially in the south-east.

“Like it or not, the past is no longer in the past, it is in the present. It is critical that we use opportunities like this one to better understand the nature of the conquest and to reflect on its legacies,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... h-identity

So are Sinn Fein saying that their beef is actually with the French ?, because everyone but them seems to grasp that thats where, "The Normans" came from !

And aren't they just conveniently forgetting the hundreds & thousands of people with Norman surnames who supported Irish Independence over the centuries ?

They aren't fit to run a sweet shop let alone a Country.

Had a fun time explaining to Israeli colleagues that this island has assimilated everybody bar the Ulster planters. They were essentially asking where the Normans lived today thinking that they have lived in walled compounds separate from the rest of Ireland for the last millennia.

Those colleagues then identified with the nationalists up north and while I was trying to process that mental leap the phone rang so I was able to make a quick getaway.

The Normans are fücking awesome and anyone who thinks different is a knob.

[Tichtheid]

The Normans are fücking awesome and anyone who thinks different is a knob.

Normans are Vikings - North Men, so are awesome by definition (I know that is only part of the Norman story)

Anyway, my youngest daughter was really into history at school. We went over to Battle Abbey a few times and also the surrounding coastline and castles where William landed. Standing just outside Battle Abbey and looking down over Senlac - which some translate as lake of blood - where the battle took place, you do think of how the history of these islands was changed forever in that place.

What's more important however was that the first time we went over to Battle Abbey, oh fifteen years or more ago, we stopped at a petrol station on the way to get sandwiches and drinks - the cost came to £10.66
I kid you not.

[Blackmac]

My daughter and son in law leased a Ford Explorer EV three months ago. Mainly because he has a 90 mile round trip to his work. They only had it few weeks when lots of fault lights came up on the dashboard. Cue a trip to the Ford dealer in Edinburgh who stated that there is a software problem which is affecting the vast majority of these cars. They are now approaching 8 weeks without the vehicle as it would appear whilst Ford are quite happy to flog these cars they aren't so keen in training up enough technicians to cope and the few that they do have are travelling the country trying to sort all the bricks lying in their rear courtyards. Just another fly in the ointment of electric vehicles.

They bought a Ford. That's your fly in the ointment.

https://www.wired.com/story/ford-electr ... est-drive/

Meanwhile, I've just passed 60000km in my Chinese EV and haven't had an issue.

Leased, thank god. Yeah I tried to steer them to the BYD or Omeda route but they liked the look of the Ford.

Well the repaired Ford lasted a full 2 days before the same faults appeared and it is now back in the garage, possibly for at least 4 weeks. Ford refusing to write the deal off despite the car being more in the garage than on the road for the first 4 months. Not sure what rights they have.

[TedMaul]

They bought a Ford. That's your fly in the ointment.

https://www.wired.com/story/ford-electr ... est-drive/

Meanwhile, I've just passed 60000km in my Chinese EV and haven't had an issue.

Leased, thank god. Yeah I tried to steer them to the BYD or Omeda route but they liked the look of the Ford.

Well the repaired Ford lasted a full 2 days before the same faults appeared and it is now back in the garage, possibly for at least 4 weeks. Ford refusing to write the deal off despite the car being more in the garage than on the road for the first 4 months. Not sure what rights they have.

If you get out of it try a Leapmotor C10, 3 months in and it's a fantastic car.

[PornDog]

The Normans are fücking awesome and anyone who thinks different is a knob.

Normans are Vikings - North Men, so are awesome by definition (I know that is only part of the Norman story)

Anyway, my youngest daughter was really into history at school. We went over to Battle Abbey a few times and also the surrounding coastline and castles where William landed. Standing just outside Battle Abbey and looking down over Senlac - which some translate as lake of blood - where the battle took place, you do think of how the history of these islands was changed forever in that place.

What's more important however was that the first time we went over to Battle Abbey, oh fifteen years or more ago, we stopped at a petrol station on the way to get sandwiches and drinks - the cost came to £10.66
I kid you not.

And what if Stamford Bridge hadden't taken place a couple of week before - could have been a very different result at Hastings.

[Uncle fester]

The Normans are fücking awesome and anyone who thinks different is a knob.

Normans are Vikings - North Men, so are awesome by definition (I know that is only part of the Norman story)

Anyway, my youngest daughter was really into history at school. We went over to Battle Abbey a few times and also the surrounding coastline and castles where William landed. Standing just outside Battle Abbey and looking down over Senlac - which some translate as lake of blood - where the battle took place, you do think of how the history of these islands was changed forever in that place.

What's more important however was that the first time we went over to Battle Abbey, oh fifteen years or more ago, we stopped at a petrol station on the way to get sandwiches and drinks - the cost came to £10.66
I kid you not.

And what if Stamford Bridge hadden't taken place a couple of week before - could have been a very different result at Hastings.

In a way, that's one of the most fascinating things about the Normans. They were the grasping social climbing upstarts of European aristocracy who played fast and loose and took every opportunity they saw, even if some of them didn't work out, such as Bohemond of Antioch and his line.

[PornDog]

Normans are Vikings - North Men, so are awesome by definition (I know that is only part of the Norman story)

Anyway, my youngest daughter was really into history at school. We went over to Battle Abbey a few times and also the surrounding coastline and castles where William landed. Standing just outside Battle Abbey and looking down over Senlac - which some translate as lake of blood - where the battle took place, you do think of how the history of these islands was changed forever in that place.

What's more important however was that the first time we went over to Battle Abbey, oh fifteen years or more ago, we stopped at a petrol station on the way to get sandwiches and drinks - the cost came to £10.66
I kid you not.

And what if Stamford Bridge hadden't taken place a couple of week before - could have been a very different result at Hastings.

In a way, that's one of the most fascinating things about the Normans. They were the grasping social climbing upstarts of European aristocracy who played fast and loose and took every opportunity they saw, even if some of them didn't work out, such as Bohemond of Antioch and his line.

Do you think William deliberately delayed his landing until Harald Hardrada had had his go? I wouldn't have thought so. He would have been aware of Hardrada's claim, and that he intended to act on it, but I don't think they would have had that sort of up to date* intelligence available.

* for the time. Three weeks is an age now, but then, I doubt it.

[Uncle fester]

And what if Stamford Bridge hadden't taken place a couple of week before - could have been a very different result at Hastings.

In a way, that's one of the most fascinating things about the Normans. They were the grasping social climbing upstarts of European aristocracy who played fast and loose and took every opportunity they saw, even if some of them didn't work out, such as Bohemond of Antioch and his line.

Do you think William deliberately delayed his landing until Harald Hardrada had had his go? I wouldn't have thought so. He would have been aware of Hardrada's claim, and that he intended to act on it, but I don't think they would have had that sort of up to date* intelligence available.

* for the time. Three weeks is an age now, but then, I doubt it.

In that day and age? Nah.
Stroke of luck for him but he was typical of the all or nothing ethos of the Normans. One difference though, if William had lost, he'd probably have been ransomed back. No such chivalry for the Normans when they win. They were playing for keeps.

[tabascoboy]

Would have been good for the Kim Jong-un watching things if we had a vid

Kim Jong-un furious as North Korea warship partly ‘crushed’ in launch gone wrong
South Korea said the destroyer was lying sideways in the water after ceremony to launch the new 5,000-tonne ship

A ceremony to welcome a new addition to North Korea’s naval fleet has ended in embarrassment following a major accident during the ship’s launch that the country’s dictator, Kim Jong-un, described as a “criminal act”.

Kim was present when the 5,000-tonne destroyer appeared to go off balance during its launch in the eastern port city of Chongjin on Wednesday. The tipping caused damage to sections of the hull, the state-run KCNA news agency said on Thursday.

“Kim Jong-un made [a] stern assessment, saying that it was a serious accident and criminal act caused by absolute carelessness, irresponsibility … and could not be tolerated,” KCNA reported.

Kim ordered the ship restored before a key meeting of the ruling Workers’ party next month, KCNA added. The accident had “brought the dignity and self-respect of our state to a collapse”.

Blaming “inexperienced command and operational carelessness” during the launch, the news agency said the incident left “some sections of the warship’s bottom crushed”. Officials found responsible for the debacle would be “dealt with at the plenary meeting of the party central committee” in June, Kim said.

South Korea’s military said the vessel was lying on its side in the water.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... r-accident

[Kiwias]

Would have been good for the Kim Jong-un watching things if we had a vid

Kim Jong-un furious as North Korea warship partly ‘crushed’ in launch gone wrong
South Korea said the destroyer was lying sideways in the water after ceremony to launch the new 5,000-tonne ship

A ceremony to welcome a new addition to North Korea’s naval fleet has ended in embarrassment following a major accident during the ship’s launch that the country’s dictator, Kim Jong-un, described as a “criminal act”.

Kim was present when the 5,000-tonne destroyer appeared to go off balance during its launch in the eastern port city of Chongjin on Wednesday. The tipping caused damage to sections of the hull, the state-run KCNA news agency said on Thursday.

“Kim Jong-un made [a] stern assessment, saying that it was a serious accident and criminal act caused by absolute carelessness, irresponsibility … and could not be tolerated,” KCNA reported.

Kim ordered the ship restored before a key meeting of the ruling Workers’ party next month, KCNA added. The accident had “brought the dignity and self-respect of our state to a collapse”.

Blaming “inexperienced command and operational carelessness” during the launch, the news agency said the incident left “some sections of the warship’s bottom crushed”. Officials found responsible for the debacle would be “dealt with at the plenary meeting of the party central committee” in June, Kim said.

South Korea’s military said the vessel was lying on its side in the water.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... r-accident

We all know they are already dead.