Starmergeddon: They Came And Ate Us

[sockwithaticket]

Ozempic costs around £150-200 a month on the open market, the NHS ought to be able to get a bulk deal to lower that. Either way it is significantly cheaper than signing people off work and providing them with an income not miles off the take home post tax of a lot of people in office roles


Yes yes there are some people it isn’t suitable for, but we to all intents and purposes have found a cure for obesity

It's not a cure. It helps with cravings for food (and alcohol in many people too), however it still requires the person to "do the work" to lose weight on their own. Something fatties don't like to do....

So, a cure then.

It'll help people lose some weight over time, but if someone taking it doesn't make any substantial changes to their lifestyle in terms of exercise and what the food they do end up eating is comprise of, then there's only so much a suppressed appetite is going to achieve.

[tabascoboy]

Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

[sockwithaticket]

Bad news. I think she's come across as a bit self-important at times, but it's a sad indicator of where the Labour Party's at when some of her stances are seen as unwelcome.

[Paddington Bear]

Dangerous for Labour. A well known politician who offers full fat policies has devastated the Tories, every chance Corbyn will do so to Labour as well

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Until now it's been a bad week for Labour, but Corbyn and his ilk sodding off might be worth the £5bn they just lost on not being able to corral their backbenchers.

Also one wonders how much longer FagRage will keep up support for proportional representation, fptp might start to suit him soon,

[I like neeps]

Dangerous for Labour. A well known politician who offers full fat policies has devastated the Tories, every chance Corbyn will do so to Labour as well

It's very bad news for the Greens...

It'll be interesting to see if the BBC treat Corbyn as they did Farage during his UKIP years of a one man band political party.

[I like neeps]

Until now it's been a bad week for Labour, but Corbyn and his ilk sodding off might be worth the £5bn they just lost on not being able to corral their backbenchers.

Also one wonders how much longer FagRage will keep up support for proportional representation, fptp might start to suit him soon,

That 5bn is going to be increased taxes on you and I so it's still a disaster as that won't be popular. This government is finito, didnt have a plan, dont know what to do, we wait for Farage.

[SaintK]

Until now it's been a bad week for Labour, but Corbyn and his ilk sodding off might be worth the £5bn they just lost on not being able to corral their backbenchers.

Also one wonders how much longer FagRage will keep up support for proportional representation, fptp might start to suit him soon,

That 5bn is going to be increased taxes on you and I so it's still a disaster as that won't be popular. This government is finito, didnt have a plan, dont know what to do, we wait for Farage.

We've got another 4 years to wait. Could be an interesting ride

[sockwithaticket]

Parts of the workers rights bill planning to be pushed back until 2027 because of business whinging...

[Paddington Bear]

Until now it's been a bad week for Labour, but Corbyn and his ilk sodding off might be worth the £5bn they just lost on not being able to corral their backbenchers.

Also one wonders how much longer FagRage will keep up support for proportional representation, fptp might start to suit him soon,

That 5bn is going to be increased taxes on you and I so it's still a disaster as that won't be popular. This government is finito, didnt have a plan, dont know what to do, we wait for Farage.

I’ve lost the link now but Patrick Maguire (Labour leaning, well connected) wrote a really interesting article about their first year in power for the Times earlier this week. It starts with Sue Gray (remember when she was an all powerful genius) thanking the civil service for inviting the government ‘into their home’, and a *senior civil servant* taking a minister aside and telling them this was no way to run a country.

It gets clearer by the day they have no plan, they stand for nothing and they are politically trapped.

They are at least unlike the last lot less corrupt, but if anything they have less excuse for having no plan having had plenty of time to prepare for government and being less poisoned by reading the Daily Mail comment section.

I think I’ve said before but they remind me of most of what I see at C Suite level in British companies - people with no real clue what they’re doing or what they want beyond being important, who think wearing the sharp blue suit, holding a coffee and a laptop and making sure everyone knows they were working late is a substitute for their total lack of ability. Starmer doesn’t only not read his speeches, he finds out his policy platform has changed in these speeches he hasn’t read! If this is the best the adults in the room and the sensibles can muster we deserve a Farage/Corbyn future, this is an establishment that has completely failed

[I like neeps]

Until now it's been a bad week for Labour, but Corbyn and his ilk sodding off might be worth the £5bn they just lost on not being able to corral their backbenchers.

Also one wonders how much longer FagRage will keep up support for proportional representation, fptp might start to suit him soon,

That 5bn is going to be increased taxes on you and I so it's still a disaster as that won't be popular. This government is finito, didnt have a plan, dont know what to do, we wait for Farage.

I’ve lost the link now but Patrick Maguire (Labour leaning, well connected) wrote a really interesting article about their first year in power for the Times earlier this week. It starts with Sue Gray (remember when she was an all powerful genius) thanking the civil service for inviting the government ‘into their home’, and a *senior civil servant* taking a minister aside and telling them this was no way to run a country.

It gets clearer by the day they have no plan, they stand for nothing and they are politically trapped.

They are at least unlike the last lot less corrupt, but if anything they have less excuse for having no plan having had plenty of time to prepare for government and being less poisoned by reading the Daily Mail comment section.

I think I’ve said before but they remind me of most of what I see at C Suite level in British companies - people with no real clue what they’re doing or what they want beyond being important, who think wearing the sharp blue suit, holding a coffee and a laptop and making sure everyone knows they were working late is a substitute for their total lack of ability. Starmer doesn’t only not read his speeches, he finds out his policy platform has changed in these speeches he hasn’t read! If this is the best the adults in the room and the sensibles can muster we deserve a Farage/Corbyn future, this is an establishment that has completely failed

I agree with what you're saying but I do think the Labour leadership are absolutely terrified of the Sun and the Mail and are trying to placate people who will never vote for them anyway (these imagined Labour to reform switchers in Doncaster and media barons). They're falling into the Tories trap of government by focus group exactly because from day 1 of the election campaign its been obvious they don't have a plan.

[Paddington Bear]

That 5bn is going to be increased taxes on you and I so it's still a disaster as that won't be popular. This government is finito, didnt have a plan, dont know what to do, we wait for Farage.

I’ve lost the link now but Patrick Maguire (Labour leaning, well connected) wrote a really interesting article about their first year in power for the Times earlier this week. It starts with Sue Gray (remember when she was an all powerful genius) thanking the civil service for inviting the government ‘into their home’, and a *senior civil servant* taking a minister aside and telling them this was no way to run a country.

It gets clearer by the day they have no plan, they stand for nothing and they are politically trapped.

They are at least unlike the last lot less corrupt, but if anything they have less excuse for having no plan having had plenty of time to prepare for government and being less poisoned by reading the Daily Mail comment section.

I think I’ve said before but they remind me of most of what I see at C Suite level in British companies - people with no real clue what they’re doing or what they want beyond being important, who think wearing the sharp blue suit, holding a coffee and a laptop and making sure everyone knows they were working late is a substitute for their total lack of ability. Starmer doesn’t only not read his speeches, he finds out his policy platform has changed in these speeches he hasn’t read! If this is the best the adults in the room and the sensibles can muster we deserve a Farage/Corbyn future, this is an establishment that has completely failed

I agree with what you're saying but I do think the Labour leadership are absolutely terrified of the Sun and the Mail and are trying to placate people who will never vote for them anyway (these imagined Labour to reform switchers in Doncaster and media barons). They're falling into the Tories trap of government by focus group exactly because from day 1 of the election campaign its been obvious they don't have a plan.

Sorry, what I meant by that is a huge swathe of the Tory party spent their last few years in government convinced that the whole country is transgender and tearing down war memorials

[Hal Jordan]

The whole transgender thing mystified me. Yes, there were some issues, but it was a tiny, tiny fraction of the population that most people never even thought about, let alone clutched pearls at.

A few years later and every toilet is filled with predatory bearded ladies, dudes looking like ladies are regularly winning girls and womens tournaments and JK Rowling has gone from fairly beloved leftish type who wrote kid's books to mould brained frothing setting up slush funds to protect real women and expose trannies everywhere.

[dpedin]

The whole transgender thing mystified me. Yes, there were some issues, but it was a tiny, tiny fraction of the population that most people never even thought about, let alone clutched pearls at.

A few years later and every toilet is filled with predatory bearded ladies, dudes looking like ladies are regularly winning girls and womens tournaments and JK Rowling has gone from fairly beloved leftish type who wrote kid's books to mould brained frothing setting up slush funds to protect real women and expose trannies everywhere.

Ditto! It seems like it is just whipped up hysteria by the right wing press and politicians without any basis in evidence at all. The stuff about single sex toilets is just a joke! Almost every toilet I went into when on holiday in France was mixed with a common area and a cubicle at each end one for men and one for women. On ski holidays in France, Italy, Austria and Switzerland again almost every loo was mixed with urinals at one end of the toilet and cubicles at the other and men and women mixed quite happily. Every train, plane and automobile I have travelled on has unisex toilets. I am not aware of any huge increase in sex offenses being committed in these loos?

I had a mate sounding off about 'trannies' the other day and they shouldn't be allowed to play sports etc so I asked him how many he knew or had been introduced to - none - I asked him to name one example of a transgender person competing in a sport he was aware of - again none - or even an example he was aware of locally or even in Scotland where it had been an issue - again none! When asked what's the problem then he started quoting stuff he had read in Mail, Express, etc and seen on line, all of which was just baseless shite!

I have met one transgender person in my life, this was at work, and they were friendly, intelligent and completely 'normal'. The issue here is the need for some parts of the right wing press and politicians to have to have someone to blame, usually for their own insecurities and failings. Persecuting a minority group enables them to say these minorities are the problem and use them as a distraction from what is going on elsewhere. We need to be very very careful as a society not to go further down this road of targeting minorities or folk on the fringes of our society and using them as scapegoats for our own failings!