So, coronavirus...

[Bimbowomxn]

for 3,105 to reach the 17,234 as per above the weekly reproduction factor was ~1.535 per week as opposed to the do nothing, doubling, worst case scenario of 2.

What did “we do” to stop the 50k ?

[Green light echo]

Third visit to gym last night - managed 25 min cycle and 40 mins of weights whilst wearing surgical mask each time and I didn't fall down dead! In fact no discernible difference whatsoever. Gym is well ventilated and has excellent distancing and cleaning processes in place i.e. clean equipment before and after use. Everyone following the rules but as a 61 year old with mild asthma why not wear a mask? Most don't wear one but a few older ones of us do - no comments or even strange looks from anyone just everyone going about their business.

From figures I have seen it looks like we (Scotland) are right on track for a second peak of cases around end of December time just as the modellers said. Interim lock down will slow the numbers and NHS demand down a good bit hopefully but there will still be significant pressure on ICU and acute beds well into Jan and Feb. Central belt already under pressure with existing covid19 designated beds full in some places - St Johns, Livingston - and the most looking to expand covid19 bed and ICU capacity at the expense of routine care. Stay safe.

Also see the Spector app/Kings college study providing even more evidence about the longer term effects of covid19 and says we need to focus not just on excess deaths but also need to consider the health and economic impact of the longer term impact of covid19. Just as well folk were worrying about it now rather than waiting until later?

I see that the dodgy 'bra wummin from Glasgow' Michelle Mone and hubby's business mate Mr Page - is getting in on the crooked PPE contract game via her Tory contacts. Sets up shell company and gets multi million contract to supply PPE via sub contractors a month after setting the company up. £122m to supply 25m gowns. Will probably clear a bigger profit than Burnham was looking for whole of Manchester.

And finally US study of excess deaths suggests that the US has c290,000 excess deaths due to covid19 and its impact - way to go Tango Twat!

I am not even going to mention Brexit and impact on supply chains at same time as all this is happening, I will however be making sure I have sufficient supply of drugs and certain products in run up to new year.

So it is all going well then! Just as well the Blonde Bumblecunt has it all under control and the messaging is clear and concise. Good luck everyone.

The way this is tracking it's looking like a a sufficient supply of ammunition and having your weapons handling drills squared away may become a premium in the UK very shortly.

Hope you are all good to go gentlemen

[Insane_Homer]

26,688 new cases
191 deaths

[Glaston]

2.3 million kids "need" school meals.
Grauniad figures

Thats approx 26% of all school age children in UK.





35% reduction in Covid cases in my area this week, we are now down to 36 active cases in S Somerset.

adjust figures : 36 new cases in a week
total is 324 active
but the caveat from PHE
" These figures take into account estimated cases involving patients that have not been tested for COVID-19"

[Bimbowomxn]

26,688 new cases
191 deaths

Still no where near.


Fear mongering .

[Tichtheid]

26,688 new cases
191 deaths

Still no where near.


Fear mongering .

R is not a physical constant.

[Bimbowomxn]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... -per-cent/

[Insane_Homer]

512 deaths reported in the last 3 days

fear mongering

[Bimbowomxn]

512 deaths reported in the last 3 days

fear mongering

As I said you’re a poor mans Piers Morgan.

[TB63]

512 deaths reported in the last 3 days

fear mongering

As I said you’re a poor mans Piers Morgan.

It’s a parents job to feed their children


And you are an utter cunt. Did you wank into your Waitrose muesli whilst typing that?

[sockwithaticket]

I see some cunt Tory MP's response to the suggestion that we give food to hungry kids via an extension to the free school meals into the holiday is, "Children have been going hungry under a Labour Government for years" and then some bullshit about Universal Credit.

It’s a parents job to feed their children.

And if they are unable to do so for whatever reason, how would you suggest we deal with the situation?

[frodder]

I see some cunt Tory MP's response to the suggestion that we give food to hungry kids via an extension to the free school meals into the holiday is, "Children have been going hungry under a Labour Government for years" and then some bullshit about Universal Credit.

It’s a parents job to feed their children.

And if they are unable to do so for whatever reason, how would you suggest we deal with the situation?

Point of order: Did Bimbo say that?

[Saint]

It’s a parents job to feed their children.

And if they are unable to do so for whatever reason, how would you suggest we deal with the situation?

Point of order: Did Bimbo say that?

Bottom of the last page

[Bimbowomxn]

I see some cunt Tory MP's response to the suggestion that we give food to hungry kids via an extension to the free school meals into the holiday is, "Children have been going hungry under a Labour Government for years" and then some bullshit about Universal Credit.

It’s a parents job to feed their children.

And if they are unable to do so for whatever reason, how would you suggest we deal with the situation?

There’s plenty of safety nets available, and should go through the correct agency so the other potential issues are noted and dealt with. Covering up this potentially dangerous parenting with mass feeding is irresponsible.


Plus it’s is a parents responsibility to feed their children. Not yours or mine.

The emotive nonsense about the moral decision is very misplaced. If you’re angry with anyone be angry with Parents who treat their children this way.

[Insane_Homer]

or, even better, be rightfully angry at the heartless, despicable cunts that think treating children this way is acceptable. We're supposedly a compassionate, rich, thriving, world beating, society. A first world country with our resources shouldn't even be discussing kids not having enough food. Blaming the parents is pathetic, no parent chooses to not feed their kids. A decent society that can easily afford to rectify that, should.

[Insane_Homer]

It's not my responsibility to pay for that fat cunt Mark Francois diabetes...

[Bimbowomxn]

The country is lost .....


“Parents should feed their own children”


Is now a statement that makes someone an utter cunt. This isn’t a controversial statement.


Where should we stop this? Shall we make it the state responsibility to feed everyone?


See above for unrelated emotive nonsense ...

[Insane_Homer]

No child should suffer because you think all parents can afford to feed their kids.

[sockwithaticket]

It’s a parents job to feed their children.

And if they are unable to do so for whatever reason, how would you suggest we deal with the situation?

There’s plenty of safety nets available, and should go through the correct agency so the other potential issues are noted and dealt with. Covering up this potentially dangerous parenting with mass feeding is irresponsible.


Plus it’s is a parents responsibility to feed their children. Not yours or mine.

The emotive nonsense about the moral decision is very misplaced. If you’re angry with anyone be angry with Parents who treat their children this way.

The state is supposed to be the safety net, the charity of food banks is something the government have relied upon for too long. The scale of food poverty cannot simply be accounted for by 'potentially dangerous parenting' despite what your right wing fever dreams might tell you.

You can repeat that it's parents' responsibility to feed their kids until the sun burns itself out, that is not a constructive response to what we should do when substantial numbers don't/can't/won't.

It is absolutely right to be anrgy with those parents who fall into the latter category, but the notion that anything other than a minority do so speaks to someone out of touch with reality.

[Tichtheid]

We have a situation where up to a third of Universal credit claimants are in work, likewise a similar proportion of foodbank users working. Trussell Trust is one of three big foodbank providers and they gave out 1.9 million parcels during the year to 31st of March 2020.

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?


I always thought that the Tories were good at spin, dog knows they got a lot of people to vote for them, but this school meals issue is a PR disaster for them, obviously not to the wing nuts who can't see beyond their own privet hedge, but out here in the real world this plays very badly for them, and all for not a lot of money.

[Tichtheid]

There’s plenty of safety nets available, and should go through the correct agency so the other potential issues are noted and dealt with.

Only someone who has never had to deal with said safety nets and agencies could say something this crass.

[Bimbowomxn]

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?

Well yes, that’s exactly what happens. I know these poor families and poor parents exist.

[ASMO]

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?

Well yes, that’s exactly what happens. I know these poor families and poor parents exist.

What is your evidence to support that statement? and i dont mean the Daily Mail either, nothing published by that shitrag can be trusted.

[sockwithaticket]

Of course they exist, but their numbers as a proportion of those in need are grossly over inflated by those who don't want to or can't care.

Same with any 'benefit scroungers' stance. A relative handful gaming the system is not an argument for withholding assistance.

[Insane_Homer]

I know these poor families and poor parents exist.

Some parents are cunts, so their children should suffer.

[Bimbowomxn]

There’s plenty of safety nets available, and should go through the correct agency so the other potential issues are noted and dealt with.

Only someone who has never had to deal with said safety nets and agencies could say something this crass.

So avoiding these agencies is the answer.

[Bimbowomxn]

I know these poor families and poor parents exist.

Some parents are cunts, so their children should suffer.

They should be in the system and not allowed to carry on with their poor decisions.


Feed your own children ffs.

[tabascoboy]

Conservative MP quits government job over free school meals

A Tory MP has quit her government job after voting for a Labour motion to offer free school meals during holidays until Easter 2021. Caroline Ansell said vouchers were not a long-term solution - but they helped families struggling with the pandemic.

Five Conservative MPs rebelled against their party by voting with Labour - including Ms Ansell who has now stepped down as parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.

'Not perfect'
Explaining her decision, she said: "In these unprecedented times I am very concerned to be doing all we can to help lower income families and their children who are really struggling due to the impact of the virus."

She said that food vouchers were "not perfect" arguing that it is better to link meals to activities so children "can also benefit from extra-curricular learning and experience".

However. she added that vouchers could help families in her Eastbourne constituency who were struggling as a result of the pandemic.

The government's stance has also been criticised by Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage, who tweeted: "If the government can subsidise Eat Out to Help Out, not being seen to give poor kids lunch in the school holidays looks mean and is wrong."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54642788

It really says something that even Farage can come out of this looking more sympathetic than so many.

[Tichtheid]

There’s plenty of safety nets available, and should go through the correct agency so the other potential issues are noted and dealt with.

Only someone who has never had to deal with said safety nets and agencies could say something this crass.

So avoiding these agencies is the answer.

When your job doesn't pay enough, or you lose a job, or if you can't find work, or if you suffer from mental illness, or are sanctioned for being minutes late for a meeting, or fall between the many gaps in the system, what then?

I was an advocate (not a legal advocate) for six and a half years, the people I came into contact with all fell into the above categories and I found the agencies to be obstructive, let alone not helpful.

It's not helped by a complacent attitude from those lucky enough to not be in that position

[sockwithaticket]

I know these poor families and poor parents exist.

Some parents are cunts, so their children should suffer.

They should be in the system and not allowed to carry on with their poor decisions.


Feed your own children ffs.

Again, repeating this is piss easy, but it doesn't actually address the problem.

Congratulations on being less empathetic than Nigel fucking Farage.

[Bimbowomxn]

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?

Well yes, that’s exactly what happens. I know these poor families and poor parents exist.

What is your evidence to support that statement? and i dont mean the Daily Mail either, nothing published by that shitrag can be trusted.

Personal experience....

Working in a food bank....

Working for a charity.....

Family members who live this way.....

Being an adult in the real world.


Middle class wankers on here who’ve not been near a poor person ffs.

It massively disrespects the millions of low paid who cope and even thrive.

[Slick]

We have a situation where up to a third of Universal credit claimants are in work, likewise a similar proportion of foodbank users working. Trussell Trust is one of three big foodbank providers and they gave out 1.9 million parcels during the year to 31st of March 2020.

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?


I always thought that the Tories were good at spin, dog knows they got a lot of people to vote for them, but this school meals issue is a PR disaster for them, obviously not to the wing nuts who can't see beyond their own privet hedge, but out here in the real world this plays very badly for them, and all for not a lot of money.

This is an issue that does my head in. How can, for instance, a full time employee of Tesco which makes 100's of millions in profit every year, be so low paid that they need government assistance to live. It's crazy.

[Bimbowomxn]

Some parents are cunts, so their children should suffer.

They should be in the system and not allowed to carry on with their poor decisions.


Feed your own children ffs.

Again, repeating this is piss easy, but it doesn't actually address the problem.

Congratulations on being less empathetic than Nigel fucking Farage.

Congratulations on infantilising millions of people.

[Bimbowomxn]

We have a situation where up to a third of Universal credit claimants are in work, likewise a similar proportion of foodbank users working. Trussell Trust is one of three big foodbank providers and they gave out 1.9 million parcels during the year to 31st of March 2020.

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?


I always thought that the Tories were good at spin, dog knows they got a lot of people to vote for them, but this school meals issue is a PR disaster for them, obviously not to the wing nuts who can't see beyond their own privet hedge, but out here in the real world this plays very badly for them, and all for not a lot of money.

This is an issue that does my head in. How can, for instance, a full time employee of Tesco which makes 100's of millions in profit every year, be so low paid that they need government assistance to live. It's crazy.

The answer isn’t likely to be more benefits.

[Bimbowomxn]

And next week Harry Kane demands free holidays for people in council housing. Only a cunt would disagree,

[Slick]

We have a situation where up to a third of Universal credit claimants are in work, likewise a similar proportion of foodbank users working. Trussell Trust is one of three big foodbank providers and they gave out 1.9 million parcels during the year to 31st of March 2020.

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?


I always thought that the Tories were good at spin, dog knows they got a lot of people to vote for them, but this school meals issue is a PR disaster for them, obviously not to the wing nuts who can't see beyond their own privet hedge, but out here in the real world this plays very badly for them, and all for not a lot of money.

This is an issue that does my head in. How can, for instance, a full time employee of Tesco which makes 100's of millions in profit every year, be so low paid that they need government assistance to live. It's crazy.

The answer isn’t likely to be more benefits.

No, it isn't.

[Tichtheid]

We have a situation where up to a third of Universal credit claimants are in work, likewise a similar proportion of foodbank users working. Trussell Trust is one of three big foodbank providers and they gave out 1.9 million parcels during the year to 31st of March 2020.

Does anyone really think people are spending their dough on BetFred and takeaway pizzas, whilst letting their children go hungry?


I always thought that the Tories were good at spin, dog knows they got a lot of people to vote for them, but this school meals issue is a PR disaster for them, obviously not to the wing nuts who can't see beyond their own privet hedge, but out here in the real world this plays very badly for them, and all for not a lot of money.

This is an issue that does my head in. How can, for instance, a full time employee of Tesco which makes 100's of millions in profit every year, be so low paid that they need government assistance to live. It's crazy.

The answer isn’t likely to be more benefits.

So what should the answer be?

[Slick]

And next week Harry Kane demands free holidays for people in council housing. Only a cunt would disagree,

No, only a cunt would think that is a valid argument or in anyway similar to feeding kids that are hungry.

[sockwithaticket]

They should be in the system and not allowed to carry on with their poor decisions.


Feed your own children ffs.

Again, repeating this is piss easy, but it doesn't actually address the problem.

Congratulations on being less empathetic than Nigel fucking Farage.

Congratulations on infantilising millions of people.

Congratulations on being a sociopath.

I used to teach. The vast majority of the families whose kids were on free school meals were not profligate scum buying scratch cards and fags instead of feeding their kids, they were hard working people in low paid jobs who often struggled to make ends meet.

I have friends who are social workers or otherwise employed in the social care sector, shockingly, their experience doesn't seem to align with yours... They've also managed to refrain from becoming empathy vacuums.

As an aside, and I know we've covered this before, your anecdotal experience does not define the wider picture, nor is it superior to the anecdotal experience of others, so stop dropping it as though it's some kind of trump card. Assuming its even real.

[sockwithaticket]

This is an issue that does my head in. How can, for instance, a full time employee of Tesco which makes 100's of millions in profit every year, be so low paid that they need government assistance to live. It's crazy.

The answer isn’t likely to be more benefits.

So what should the answer be?

Funnily enough, that's the closest I've ever seen him to being right. No, the answer isn't more benefits, it's to make employers pay an actual living wage to their employees and if that takes a bite out of the profits, so fucking be it. Until our legislative branch grows a spine and tackles that, the state needs to foot the bill.