The Brexit Thread

[Ymx]

I suspect that, while Barnier may be fair game for being ridiculed as an unbalanced alcoholic on a whiskey binge, casting aspersions on Boris Johnson's own drinking habits risks upsetting delicate sensibilities.

I’ve also never seen any comments alluding to Barnier being a drunk ever .


Are you sure you mean Barnier ?

Juncker??

[Rinkals]

I suspect that, while Barnier may be fair game for being ridiculed as an unbalanced alcoholic on a whiskey binge, casting aspersions on Boris Johnson's own drinking habits risks upsetting delicate sensibilities.

I’ve also never seen any comments alluding to Barnier being a drunk ever .


Are you sure you mean Barnier ?

Juncker??

Yes.

I had a fanatical Brexit former classmate (who has since 'unfriended' me on facebook) who did frequently allude to the sobriety of Barnier and other European negotiators in a disparaging manner, but yes, I should have checked which negotiator it was that has the neurological condition which allowed him to be presented as an inveterate inebriate by Brexiters.

My point would have been better made had I used the correct official.

[Bimbowomxn]

Junker wasn’t a negotiator....

[Rinkals]

Junker wasn’t a negotiator....

So what?

I was speaking in a general manner. If he wasn't in the negotiating team, he was part of the negotiations.

And even if he wasn't, my point about your willingness to denigrate him contrasts sharply with your fragile sensitivities with regard to Johnson's drinking habits still stands.

[Bimbowomxn]

Junker wasn’t a negotiator....

So what?

I was speaking in a general manner. If he wasn't in the negotiating team, he was part of the negotiations.

And even if he wasn't, my point about your willingness to denigrate him contrasts sharply with your fragile sensitivities with regard to Johnson's drinking habits still stands.

My willingness to be accurate about who is denigrated? You’re just saying names now.

As I clearly stated there’s no issue with Johnson and drink either fact, reported or even alluded to. that’s 100% invention. It’s as accurate as Barnier and that you think Junker was a negotiator....

Best let it drop Rinkals.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

As I clearly stated there’s no issue with Johnson and drink either fact, reported or even alluded to. that’s 100% invention.

That's not clearly stated.

I don't know if Boris currently has an issue with drink, it's an issue he's had in the past, and it might speak to some of his behaviour, but whilst it's (too) easy speculation I've not heard any actual details.

[Rinkals]

Junker wasn’t a negotiator....

So what?

I was speaking in a general manner. If he wasn't in the negotiating team, he was part of the negotiations.

And even if he wasn't, my point about your willingness to denigrate him contrasts sharply with your fragile sensitivities with regard to Johnson's drinking habits still stands.

My willingness to be accurate about who is denigrated? You’re just saying names now.

As I clearly stated there’s no issue with Johnson and drink either fact, reported or even alluded to. that’s 100% invention. It’s as accurate as Barnier and that you think Junker was a negotiator....

Best let it drop Rinkals.

Which is entirely immaterial.

Whatever their positions in the negotiations, the point was about your willingness to label Junker as an alcoholic when you are deeply sensitive about Johnson's own drinking habits.

[dpedin]

So what?

I was speaking in a general manner. If he wasn't in the negotiating team, he was part of the negotiations.

And even if he wasn't, my point about your willingness to denigrate him contrasts sharply with your fragile sensitivities with regard to Johnson's drinking habits still stands.

My willingness to be accurate about who is denigrated? You’re just saying names now.

As I clearly stated there’s no issue with Johnson and drink either fact, reported or even alluded to. that’s 100% invention. It’s as accurate as Barnier and that you think Junker was a negotiator....

Best let it drop Rinkals.

Which is entirely immaterial.

Whatever their positions in the negotiations, the point was about your willingness to label Junker as an alcoholic when you are deeply sensitive about Johnson's own drinking habits.

Probably even more sensitive about Mr Gove's dodgy 'white powder' habits?

[SaintK]

As I clearly stated there’s no issue with Johnson and drink either fact, reported or even alluded to. that’s 100% invention.

That's not clearly stated.

I don't know if Boris currently has an issue with drink, it's an issue he's had in the past, and it might speak to some of his behaviour, but whilst it's (too) easy speculation I've not heard any actual details.

Private Eye occcassionally alluded to the fact he would regularly partake of a good liquid lunch during the years he was mayor. And I think there's reference to the odd 2 or 3 bottle lunch in Tom Bower's recently published biography of him. I don't think anyone is insinuating that he's a lush though

[Rhubarb & Custard]

As I clearly stated there’s no issue with Johnson and drink either fact, reported or even alluded to. that’s 100% invention.

That's not clearly stated.

I don't know if Boris currently has an issue with drink, it's an issue he's had in the past, and it might speak to some of his behaviour, but whilst it's (too) easy speculation I've not heard any actual details.

Private Eye occcassionally alluded to the fact he would regularly partake of a good liquid lunch during the years he was mayor. And I think there's reference to the odd 2 or 3 bottle lunch in Tom Bower's recently published biography of him. I don't think anyone is insinuating that he's a lush though

I would imagine a large number of people in the high stress roles have a number of coping mechanisms which aren't especially useful, whether it's amphetamine and cheeseburgers or booze. If Boris is hitting the bottle it's probably late on in the day at this point in his life, perhaps in similar fashion to Blair.

And I know Boris drank heavily at times when he was Mayor, I heard from any number of people in his office he did very little actual work party down to enjoying a few glasses, although people often accuse the boss of not doing much , but we met him a few times at various events and if he'd not been drinking he's got some serious cognitive issues. I've also heard he enjoyed his time as editor at the Spectator on the drinking front, at a guess he enjoyed a few glasses before that too given who he is and that journalists aren't famed for sobriety

[Slick]

That's not clearly stated.

I don't know if Boris currently has an issue with drink, it's an issue he's had in the past, and it might speak to some of his behaviour, but whilst it's (too) easy speculation I've not heard any actual details.

Private Eye occcassionally alluded to the fact he would regularly partake of a good liquid lunch during the years he was mayor. And I think there's reference to the odd 2 or 3 bottle lunch in Tom Bower's recently published biography of him. I don't think anyone is insinuating that he's a lush though

I would imagine a large number of people in the high stress roles have a number of coping mechanisms which aren't especially useful, whether it's amphetamine and cheeseburgers or booze. If Boris is hitting the bottle it's probably late on in the day at this point in his life, perhaps in similar fashion to Blair.

And I know Boris drank heavily at times when he was Mayor, I heard from any number of people in his office he did very little actual work party down to enjoying a few glasses, although people often accuse the boss of not doing much , but we met him a few times at various events and if he'd not been drinking he's got some serious cognitive issues. I've also heard he enjoyed his time as editor at the Spectator on the drinking front, at a guess he enjoyed a few glasses before that too given who he is and that journalists aren't famed for sobriety

I used to see him pretty much every lunchtime getting stuck into a bottle during his mayor days. I'm not criticising, just saying.

[Rinkals]

My willingness to be accurate about who is denigrated? You’re just saying names now.

As I clearly stated there’s no issue with Johnson and drink either fact, reported or even alluded to. that’s 100% invention. It’s as accurate as Barnier and that you think Junker was a negotiator....

Best let it drop Rinkals.

Which is entirely immaterial.

Whatever their positions in the negotiations, the point was about your willingness to label Junker as an alcoholic when you are deeply sensitive about Johnson's own drinking habits.

Probably even more sensitive about Mr Gove's dodgy 'white powder' habits?

You have the advantage of me there.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I used to see him pretty much every lunchtime getting stuck into a bottle during his mayor days. I'm not criticising, just saying.

I'd like to go on the record extending my thanks for the public service you undertook being willing to place yourself in drinking establishment daily.

[Tichtheid]

I used to see him pretty much every lunchtime getting stuck into a bottle during his mayor days. I'm not criticising, just saying.

I'd like to go on the record extending my thanks for the public service you undertook being willing to place yourself in drinking establishment daily.

Slick as Malcom Tucker to Boris Johnson's Hugh Abbot?

[Sandstorm]

I used to see him pretty much every lunchtime getting stuck into a bottle during his mayor days. I'm not criticising, just saying.

I'd like to go on the record extending my thanks for the public service you undertook being willing to place yourself in drinking establishment daily.

I picture Slick as the girl who hangs Boris’ coat in the club.

[sturginho]

Johnson is insane, we're all fucked

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... t-decision

[Biffer]

Saw this and somehow it reminded me of the child catcher in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

[fishfoodie]

Shocking

Essential post-Brexit freight software is unlikely to be ready on time for 1 January, those building it have warned.

A delay could hinder efforts to get products on to shop shelves and might push up prices.

The Association of Freight Software Suppliers (AFSS) said its members could not guarantee delivery because officials had failed to give it details and direction for the project.

But the government insisted the work was still "on track" for 1 January.
....

The AFSS has formally told HMRC that "most of its members" cannot get their software ready on time.

The association said "late delivery and gaps of detailed information" were the cause.

And it warned that even if members could build a "minimum viable product" in time, it was "unrealistic" to expect firms to be fully trained on it by the year's end.

The root of the problem is that HMRC has introduced a new system, called the Customs Declaration Service (CDS).

Unlike the older system, it can handle two sets of tariffs for the UK and EU at once. That makes it potentially very useful for handling trade to and from Northern Ireland in particular.

The key issue is that while the CDS system is ready, some of the software that traders need to submit their records to it is not.

The AFSS explained the problem was that some functions could not be designed until it was known exactly what they needed to do, and that could not happen until trade negotiations ended.

I hope they've got those Farrage Garages ready; because no one will be going on any ferries, until the non-existant software, decides that, the yet to be decided on regulations, are properly filled in, by the not yet trained hauliers.

[Insane_Homer]

1. Soy Sauce
2. Our Japan tariff is already 0% (It would be 6% on TWO terms, so 1 Ltr of Kikkoman @ £6.50 will still be £6.50 and not £6.89 )
3. 16% of our soy sauce comes from Japan
4. Most of our soy sauce comes from the EU

Other than that, spot on!

[Tichtheid]

“UK farmers to need 'thousands of foreign workers' next summer”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54712374

[fishfoodie]

“UK farmers to need 'thousands of foreign workers' next summer”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54712374

Maybe Fatima's next job will be in a field picking Veg ?

[Tichtheid]

“UK farmers to need 'thousands of foreign workers' next summer”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54712374

Maybe Fatima's next job will be in a field picking Veg ?

Yeah well, Fatima would get arrested for being an illegal here under a false passport

[sturginho]

1. Soy Sauce
2. Our Japan tariff is already 0% (It would be 6% on TWO terms, so 1 Ltr of Kikkoman @ £6.50 will still be £6.50 and not £6.89 )
3. 16% of our soy sauce comes from Japan
4. Most of our soy sauce comes from the EU

Other than that, spot on!

Kikkoman is brewed in the Netherlands so Uk-Japan trade deal wouldn't affect the price, a no deal brexit would put the price up

[Insane_Homer]

https://www.orientalmart.co.uk/kikkoman ... qbEALw_wcB

Says product of Japan

[SaintK]

https://www.orientalmart.co.uk/kikkoman ... qbEALw_wcB

Says product of Japan

Nope! Just checked the bottles I've got and it's Netherlands.

[Saint]

https://www.orientalmart.co.uk/kikkoman ... qbEALw_wcB

Says product of Japan

[Sandstorm]

The Soy Wars of 2021 claimed many, many lives.

[Slick]

I used to see him pretty much every lunchtime getting stuck into a bottle during his mayor days. I'm not criticising, just saying.

I'd like to go on the record extending my thanks for the public service you undertook being willing to place yourself in drinking establishment daily.

I picture Slick as the girl who hangs Boris’ coat in the club.

No, but I was banging her

[Rhubarb & Custard]

https://www.orientalmart.co.uk/kikkoman ... qbEALw_wcB

Says product of Japan

Nope! Just checked the bottles I've got and it's Netherlands.

We had jerked fish tonight, and our soy sauce also came from Netherlands it turns out.

[Hal Jordan]

The Soy Wars of 2021 claimed many, many lives.

The Left and their Soy Boy cuck ways. Killers. All of them.

[Rinkals]

I don't pretend to know much about soy sauce, but I saw this and thought of this fred:

https://www.bbc.com/news/54718306

But there is another problem with the original tweet - most soy sauce in the UK does not come from Japan.

Amoy, owned by Heinz, has 58% of the £29m market according to research company Euromonitor International. Its soy sauce is made in China and bottled in the UK so the UK-Japan deal will have no impact. But the tariff payable on soy sauce imported from China will come down slightly from the 7.7% it was as part of the EU to the UK's new rate of 6%.

The second biggest brand is Kikkoman, a Japanese company, with 20% of the market. However, most of its sauces found in the UK are made in the Netherlands and only some is imported from Japan.

If the UK does not do a trade deal with the EU, then from 1 January, imports of soy sauce from the Netherlands will go from having no tariff to having a 6% tariff.

[Openside]

I don't pretend to know much about soy sauce, but I saw this and thought of this fred:

https://www.bbc.com/news/54718306

But there is another problem with the original tweet - most soy sauce in the UK does not come from Japan.

Amoy, owned by Heinz, has 58% of the £29m market according to research company Euromonitor International. Its soy sauce is made in China and bottled in the UK so the UK-Japan deal will have no impact. But the tariff payable on soy sauce imported from China will come down slightly from the 7.7% it was as part of the EU to the UK's new rate of 6%.

The second biggest brand is Kikkoman, a Japanese company, with 20% of the market. However, most of its sauces found in the UK are made in the Netherlands and only some is imported from Japan.

If the UK does not do a trade deal with the EU, then from 1 January, imports of soy sauce from the Netherlands will go from having no tariff to having a 6% tariff.

Looks like Heinz will be the beneficiary then.

[Rinkals]

I don't pretend to know much about soy sauce, but I saw this and thought of this fred:

https://www.bbc.com/news/54718306

But there is another problem with the original tweet - most soy sauce in the UK does not come from Japan.

Amoy, owned by Heinz, has 58% of the £29m market according to research company Euromonitor International. Its soy sauce is made in China and bottled in the UK so the UK-Japan deal will have no impact. But the tariff payable on soy sauce imported from China will come down slightly from the 7.7% it was as part of the EU to the UK's new rate of 6%.

The second biggest brand is Kikkoman, a Japanese company, with 20% of the market. However, most of its sauces found in the UK are made in the Netherlands and only some is imported from Japan.

If the UK does not do a trade deal with the EU, then from 1 January, imports of soy sauce from the Netherlands will go from having no tariff to having a 6% tariff.

Looks like Heinz will be the beneficiary then.

Right.

The important thing is not to look at what the data conveys, but to slant your eyes and reinterpret it so that it says what you want it to say and confirms your opinion.

It would seem that the prospect of imports attracting a 6% tariff is cause for celebration.

[dpedin]

OK so when will the Blonde Bumblecunt decide to cancel Brexit? My money is in a couple of weeks we will hear something like 'the lock down means that we can't complete the negiations to make our oven ready deal oven ready so reluctantly we have asked for a 6 month extension. Its not my fault Gov but this awful 'china virus' has meant we can't take back control.' Otherwise plunging the country into the chaos of a no deal brexit would be too awful to contemplate for a Gov already fecking up everything else. Mid to end November for me - what do others think?

[Bimbowomxn]

OK so when will the Blonde Bumblecunt decide to cancel Brexit? My money is in a couple of weeks we will hear something like 'the lock down means that we can't complete the negiations to make our oven ready deal oven ready so reluctantly we have asked for a 6 month extension. Its not my fault Gov but this awful 'china virus' has meant we can't take back control.' Otherwise plunging the country into the chaos of a no deal brexit would be too awful to contemplate for a Gov already fecking up everything else. Mid to end November for me - what do others think?

We’ve already left. Brexit cannot be cancelled.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

It almost certainly could be cancelled. I just don't imagine we'd ask for that when the people at the top split into two groups, those who know there will be problems but have a belief based system that tells them problems will make things better, and those who know there will be problems but for a variety of reasons don't care.

[Openside]

I don't pretend to know much about soy sauce, but I saw this and thought of this fred:

https://www.bbc.com/news/54718306

Looks like Heinz will be the beneficiary then.

Right.

The important thing is not to look at what the data conveys, but to slant your eyes and reinterpret it so that it says what you want it to say and confirms your opinion.

It would seem that the prospect of imports attracting a 6% tariff is cause for celebration.

You have made two incorrect assumptions 1) that 6% tariff is cause for celebration and 2) That I have interpreted the data to say what I wanted it to. I was merely pointing out that Heinz was likely to to the benefactor if the facts were as you stated.

[Bimbowomxn]

It almost certainly could be cancelled. I just don't imagine we'd ask for that when the people at the top split into two groups, those who know there will be problems but have a belief based system that tells them problems will make things better, and those who know there will be problems but for a variety of reasons don't care.

We have fully and legally left, nothing can be “cancelled “ , we would have to apply to rejoin.

Your whole premise is incorrect.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

It almost certainly could be cancelled. I just don't imagine we'd ask for that when the people at the top split into two groups, those who know there will be problems but have a belief based system that tells them problems will make things better, and those who know there will be problems but for a variety of reasons don't care.

We have fully and legally left, nothing can be “cancelled “ , we would have to apply to rejoin.

Your whole premise is incorrect.

If you want to call cancelling something else, say calling the EU and saying can we just knock this on the head fine, I'm happy to label it cancelling understanding there'd be some legal niceties on either side. I don't think it should happen because it wouldn't be democratic, but I don't have an issue saying it could happen or having that termed cancellation.

[dpedin]

OK so when will the Blonde Bumblecunt decide to cancel Brexit? My money is in a couple of weeks we will hear something like 'the lock down means that we can't complete the negiations to make our oven ready deal oven ready so reluctantly we have asked for a 6 month extension. Its not my fault Gov but this awful 'china virus' has meant we can't take back control.' Otherwise plunging the country into the chaos of a no deal brexit would be too awful to contemplate for a Gov already fecking up everything else. Mid to end November for me - what do others think?

We’ve already left. Brexit cannot be cancelled.

Ok - perhaps cancel was just wishful thinking, lets say 'extend the transition period for another 6 months'. I can't see how on earth the Gov will plunge the country into a No Deal Brexit a month after coming out of lock down in England. It is almost a death wish for the UK Gov. I'm sure the EU would, given the issues with the pandemic, feel sorry for the UK public and agree very readily to this if asked for. Still think the sensible will prevail and the Blonde bumblecunt will ask for an extension in 2-3 weeks time. It would be the biggest u-turn of his premiership but he doesn't give a shit anyway.