Nigeria
It's nuts. 12 dead so far.
It must be a tinderbox there at the moment. A population fed up with corruption, the situation with Covid and an indirect connection tothe global BLM movement (or rather the anti police brutality component of it).
Very worrying in a country with a population of over 200 million.
It must be a tinderbox there at the moment. A population fed up with corruption, the situation with Covid and an indirect connection tothe global BLM movement (or rather the anti police brutality component of it).
Very worrying in a country with a population of over 200 million.
Yup and a very young population who are fed up with the "Big Man" corruption and more interested in being taken seriously in global business. A lot have just had enough and can see what a succesful country it could be without these cunts.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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Was hoping to go to Lagos again.
It strikes me as a country with the vitality to be a major player if it can take the next step.Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:54 am Yup and a very young population who are fed up with the "Big Man" corruption and more interested in being taken seriously in global business. A lot have just had enough and can see what a succesful country it could be without these cunts.
It absolutely is. There is some amazing innovation coming out of Nigeria across sectors and, as I said above, a younger generation that wants to be part of the global market. Problem is, and I'm as guilty of this as anyone, as soon as you see Nigeria it's automatically assumed to be not worth the trouble. Because it more often than not, it isn't.MungoMan wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:29 amIt strikes me as a country with the vitality to be a major player if it can take the next step.Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:54 am Yup and a very young population who are fed up with the "Big Man" corruption and more interested in being taken seriously in global business. A lot have just had enough and can see what a succesful country it could be without these cunts.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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Lagos and Nigerian is not your usual economic market. Everything is on the street and is mostly cash.
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Do ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.
As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
I can see some mission creep arising from the first lot of guys to go out to Mali to getting involved in the Sahel area in a bigger way.Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:25 am Could get very interesting there.
Government have started distancing themselves from the soldiers, protests starting in other towns over corruption and brutality. Could really go off.
Immigrants nearly always are more committed to hard work, wherever they come from. I found it to be so in South Africa as well, where the Zimbabweans were keener than the local population. And here as well with the much maligned Mexicans really perform. But not only at the labouring level, but also at research if you look at how many Nobel prizes are awarded to immigrants to the States.Ted. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:50 pmDo ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.
As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
I've always maintained that, if they put as much effort into legitimate business as they seem to put into divers nefarious ventures and scams, they'd be the most successful country on earth.Ted. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:50 pmDo ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.
As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
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Savage opportunity for some creative scams.Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:25 am Could get very interesting there.
Government have started distancing themselves from the soldiers, protests starting in other towns over corruption and brutality. Could really go off.
wow sarcasm is lost on a few here...but alas i have to explain everything, nearly every country with huge oil deposits end up war torn because of the US (greed), last year they tried to do the same with Venezuela and Iran (but failed) , i wont be surprised if the US suddenly "peaks" interest in Nigeria in coming days..just yesterday 2 of the 10 largest oil exporters somehow became US enemy number 1 for "tempering' with the electoral system there..and now a possible civil war in another country listed as a top 10 exporters of oil.
If their interest was going to peak, it would have already. Plus, Trump's foreign policy has been to completely ignore Africa as a whole.stemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:33 pm wow sarcasm is lost on a few here...but alas i have to explain everything, nearly every country with huge oil deposits end up war torn because of the US (greed), last year they tried to do the same with Venezuela and Iran (but failed) , i wont be surprised if the US suddenly "peaks" interest in Nigeria in coming days..just yesterday 2 of the 10 largest oil exporters somehow became US enemy number 1 for "tempering' with the electoral system there..and now a possible civil war in another country listed as a top 10 exporters of oil.
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It does have oil you fokken dumb poesstemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 pm shame Nigeria doesn't have oil or the US would have send an army by now to 'liberate' them..
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Nigerians grew up tough and work hard to survive as kids.
Some suburbs in Lagos make SA townships look like classy places.
Lagos traffic is horrific, takes two hours to travel 30 kms, some workers spend 6 hours traveling to work.
Some suburbs in Lagos make SA townships look like classy places.
Lagos traffic is horrific, takes two hours to travel 30 kms, some workers spend 6 hours traveling to work.
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They are one of the top oil exporters to the US.Lemoentjie wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 amIt does have oil you fokken dumb poesstemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 pm shame Nigeria doesn't have oil or the US would have send an army by now to 'liberate' them..
Delta area provides oil which the get from the same depths where we get water.
Lagos is on a sea of water. Don't need pipelines, each block got their own water borehole.
It’s the fifth largest producer of oil in the World, and all the big oil companies (Shell, Chevron, Exxon-Mobil etc) are already heavily involved in Nigeria.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:13 pmThey are one of the top oil exporters to the US.Lemoentjie wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 amIt does have oil you fokken dumb poesstemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 pm shame Nigeria doesn't have oil or the US would have send an army by now to 'liberate' them..
Delta area provides oil which the get from the same depths where we get water.
Lagos is on a sea of water. Don't need pipelines, each block got their own water borehole.
Abuja is completely different. Amazingly well-planned city that reminds me of parts of Joburg.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:09 pm Nigerians grew up tough and work hard to survive as kids.
Some suburbs in Lagos make SA townships look like classy places.
Lagos traffic is horrific, takes two hours to travel 30 kms, some workers spend 6 hours traveling to work.
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So car jacking is a constant risk then?assfly wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:36 pmAbuja is completely different. Amazingly well-planned city that reminds me of parts of Joburg.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:09 pm Nigerians grew up tough and work hard to survive as kids.
Some suburbs in Lagos make SA townships look like classy places.
Lagos traffic is horrific, takes two hours to travel 30 kms, some workers spend 6 hours traveling to work.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Rinkals wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:29 pmI've always maintained that, if they put as much effort into legitimate business as they seem to put into divers nefarious ventures and scams, they'd be the most successful country on earth.Ted. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:50 pmDo ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.
As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
Remarkable stereotyping here.
Nope, I'm merely shit stirring.
FWIW, I think Nigeria has the potential to lead amongst African nations in so many ways - developing into a modern stable democracy, economic development and not least demonstrating that large Muslim and Christian populations can coexist peacefully (and not vote according to religion). If it goes right, it could lea the whole area to better future. If it goes wrong it could equally lead to a shit show across the whole region.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
I agree on the potential. A lot of the middle class Nigerians I met are educated in the UK and US, and the younger ones seem to want to move away from the stereotypes. But they are a minority.Biffer wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:58 pm FWIW, I think Nigeria has the potential to lead amongst African nations in so many ways - developing into a modern stable democracy, economic development and not least demonstrating that large Muslim and Christian populations can coexist peacefully (and not vote according to religion). If it goes right, it could lea the whole area to better future. If it goes wrong it could equally lead to a shit show across the whole region.
I was having dinner at one of the new high-end shopping centres in Abuja. I was complimenting the city on it's modern appearance and amenities, and he told me that what makes Nigeria unique is that if I were to drive one hour north I would find people living naked in the bush with little or no contact with the modern world. He also mentioned that although the population is considered to be 195 million he said there is an error margin of 10%. An error margin of nearly 20 million people.

I don't think that makes it unique - there are a lot of developing countries which could be considered similar.assfly wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:06 pmI agree on the potential. A lot of the middle class Nigerians I met are educated in the UK and US, and the younger ones seem to want to move away from the stereotypes. But they are a minority.Biffer wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:58 pm FWIW, I think Nigeria has the potential to lead amongst African nations in so many ways - developing into a modern stable democracy, economic development and not least demonstrating that large Muslim and Christian populations can coexist peacefully (and not vote according to religion). If it goes right, it could lea the whole area to better future. If it goes wrong it could equally lead to a shit show across the whole region.
I was having dinner at one of the new high-end shopping centres in Abuja. I was complimenting the city on it's modern appearance and amenities, and he told me that what makes Nigeria unique is that if I were to drive one hour north I would find people living naked in the bush with little or no contact with the modern world. He also mentioned that although the population is considered to be 195 million he said there is an error margin of 10%. An error margin of nearly 20 million people.![]()
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?