Selfish SARU destroy the Rugby Championship

[OomStruisbaai]

How often are players/team staff being tested? Reading into this the following quote was interesting.



You would think anything remotely like a symptom would have meant a test and isolation.

It's been done, it take a week in SA to get the result. A week in rugby is a vokken long time.

That’s bullshit. Results are available within 24hours...in the last 2 weeks 4 people I know have had the test (2 positive and 2 negative). All of them got results within 24 hours.

Pro-rugby teams can probably get their results even faster than that.

You maybe right. When it peaked it was 10 days.

https://bhekisisa.org/health-news-south ... klog-nhls/

[Chilli]

NZ posters were so defensive about the earth quakes in CC yet they are first in line to trolls us about a life threatening virus.

The irony of all this.

What a stupid comment. Dishonest and stupid.

Those of us who were posting on the CHCH earthquake thread remember it well. Some posters were demanding that they had the right to make jokes and poke fun of dead and missing CHCH residents because of black humour and Yeeb's 'FHHD' rule. It was gross and shameful. Contrast that to today, and no-one is trolling South Africans who have died of covid-19. Your comment reeks of desperation and frankly makes you human scum. The SARU are liars and cowards and their betrayal of their SANZAAR partners will never, ever be forgotten.

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

[Blake]

You maybe right. When it peaked it was 10 days.

https://bhekisisa.org/health-news-south ... klog-nhls/

I am right. A lot a changed since May with regards to testing and treatment. While it is still a risk and caution should be taken to avoid getting infected, the landscape has changed changed for the better.

But we are also getting complacent. I’ve had 2 close calls in the last 2 weeks with people getting positive tests that I had contact with. We are also going to get a second wave like Europe is going through now. January is going to see a massive spike in cases.

[Jb1981]

NZ posters were so defensive about the earth quakes in CC yet they are first in line to trolls us about a life threatening virus.

The irony of all this.

What a stupid comment. Dishonest and stupid.

Those of us who were posting on the CHCH earthquake thread remember it well. Some posters were demanding that they had the right to make jokes and poke fun of dead and missing CHCH residents because of black humour and Yeeb's 'FHHD' rule. It was gross and shameful. Contrast that to today, and no-one is trolling South Africans who have died of covid-19. Your comment reeks of desperation and frankly makes you human scum. The SARU are liars and cowards and their betrayal of their SANZAAR partners will never, ever be forgotten.

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

That’s stretching things, isn’t it? Unless reasoning wasn’t fully reported here SARU’s decision was put down to wellness concerns because of lack of game time/preparation, not risk of player illness.

[Enzedder]

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

The Boks would be in a relatively covid-free environment if they had been allowed to compete in the RC. Instead they have been left to try to survive (your words) in a covid hell-hole by the sound of it.

[OomStruisbaai]

You maybe right. When it peaked it was 10 days.

https://bhekisisa.org/health-news-south ... klog-nhls/

I am right. A lot a changed since May with regards to testing and treatment. While it is still a risk and caution should be taken to avoid getting infected, the landscape has changed changed for the better.

But we are also getting complacent. I’ve had 2 close calls in the last 2 weeks with people getting positive tests that I had contact with. We are also going to get a second wave like Europe is going through now. January is going to see a massive spike in cases.

I hope you wrong about the spike. Our economic is vokked.

[Blake]

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

The Boks would be in a relatively covid-free environment if they had been allowed to compete in the RC. Instead they have been left to try to survive (your words) in a covid hell-hole by the sound of it.

You can’t get to match fitness in a bubble after not playing for 6 months. If the Bok players were put in a bubble in order to complete in the RC we would’ve been ravaged by injuries after 2 matches...and for what?

I’m sure if the players could choose between competing in a makeshift RC tournament or trying to get match-fit and stay injury free for a Lions tour it would be a no-brained.

[Blake]

You maybe right. When it peaked it was 10 days.

https://bhekisisa.org/health-news-south ... klog-nhls/

I am right. A lot a changed since May with regards to testing and treatment. While it is still a risk and caution should be taken to avoid getting infected, the landscape has changed changed for the better.

But we are also getting complacent. I’ve had 2 close calls in the last 2 weeks with people getting positive tests that I had contact with. We are also going to get a second wave like Europe is going through now. January is going to see a massive spike in cases.

I hope you wrong about the spike. Our economic is vokked.

It will happen, and we won’t be able to go into lockdown again. We will have to ride it out. I’m guessing January after all the Christmas and New Years gatherings...but maybe we get lucky and it only hits later in Autumn.

I’ve got friends in Germany and they were sure they had things under control, but it’s getting out of hand quickly again.

[Fangle]

Are there any figures that show how the death rate is doing, irrespective of the infection rate?

[Enzedder]

So your union is banking everything on the Lions tour proceeding Blake. That's a brave call.

[Sandstorm]

So your union is banking everything on the Lions tour proceeding Blake. That's a brave call.

Go away Kiwi. No one else is living on a Covid free island far, far away. You don’t get it.

[Enzedder]

So your union is banking everything on the Lions tour proceeding Blake. That's a brave call.

Go away Kiwi. No one else is living on a Covid free island far, far away. You don’t get it.

I wasn't stirring though. I am a firm believer of a bird in the hand being worth 2 in the bush. If the tournament was there to make some money, they are silly to refuse it in these hard times.

The players can be kept safe.

[OomStruisbaai]

Are there any figures that show how the death rate is doing, irrespective of the infection rate?

Death rate is very good at the moment

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa ... 25282fff73

[OomStruisbaai]

So your union is banking everything on the Lions tour proceeding Blake. That's a brave call.

If we still struggle with Corvid rugby tours and money is nothing.

[Blake]

So your union is banking everything on the Lions tour proceeding Blake. That's a brave call.

I don’t think they are banking everything on the Lions Tour no. It’s still up in the air if it’s going to happen at all and a Lions tour without a traveling army of fans isn’t really a Lions Tour.

But, I also don’t really see the value in this half-baked, lobsided “Rugby Championship” tournament either. Our only incentive to participate was to give the new coach and players game time in preparation for the Lions Tour. With the lack of game time our player have had, the tournament is now more a liability for us should the Lions Tour proceed and we’ve lost key players due to injury.

[Chilli]

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

The Boks would be in a relatively covid-free environment if they had been allowed to compete in the RC. Instead they have been left to try to survive (your words) in a covid hell-hole by the sound of it.

I used "survive "?

[Ted.]

You do know that the Lions vs Cheetahs match was cancelled yesterday because half the Lions team has Covid?

Bumbling ineptitude seems to be endemic in SA, yet it's not your fault!

I'm afraid to say, Chilli, that's just a piss poor attitude all round.

Idiotic comment

And why is that, Monk?

From my perspective, it seems to be a perfectly reasonably assessment of a situation that has cost me and other fans the chance to watch the ABs play the Boks.

Given the amount of leeway, including time, SA were given, they could have shown a bit more common sense in their planing and and guts in their decision making. They could have been in Aussie by now, with the fit players, while bringing those who are currently in isolation over once they have recovered. All teams are dealing with this as best they can, yet at the first sign of difficulty SA have cried off, resulting in massive losses for cash strapped unions, including their own.

[Chilli]

What a stupid comment. Dishonest and stupid.

Those of us who were posting on the CHCH earthquake thread remember it well. Some posters were demanding that they had the right to make jokes and poke fun of dead and missing CHCH residents because of black humour and Yeeb's 'FHHD' rule. It was gross and shameful. Contrast that to today, and no-one is trolling South Africans who have died of covid-19. Your comment reeks of desperation and frankly makes you human scum. The SARU are liars and cowards and their betrayal of their SANZAAR partners will never, ever be forgotten.

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

That’s stretching things, isn’t it? Unless reasoning wasn’t fully reported here SARU’s decision was put down to wellness concerns because of lack of game time/preparation, not risk of player illness.

The whole thing is as a result of Covid.
The Lions are in a bubble of sorts and .........Covid.

[Chilli]

Bumbling ineptitude seems to be endemic in SA, yet it's not your fault!

I'm afraid to say, Chilli, that's just a piss poor attitude all round.

Idiotic comment

And why is that, Monk?

From my perspective, it seems to be a perfectly reasonably assessment of a situation that has cost me and other fans the chance to watch the ABs play the Boks.

Given the amount of leeway, including time, SA were given, they could have shown a bit more common sense in their planing and and guts in their decision making. They could have been in Aussie by now, with the fit players, while bringing those who are currently in isolation over once they have recovered. All teams are dealing with this as best they can, yet at the first sign of difficulty SA have cried off, resulting in massive losses for cash strapped unions, including their own.

So you want to risk the lives of our players just so that you can watch rugby?
That is a little shallow.

[Ted.]

Idiotic comment

And why is that, Monk?

From my perspective, it seems to be a perfectly reasonably assessment of a situation that has cost me and other fans the chance to watch the ABs play the Boks.

Given the amount of leeway, including time, SA were given, they could have shown a bit more common sense in their planing and and guts in their decision making. They could have been in Aussie by now, with the fit players, while bringing those who are currently in isolation over once they have recovered. All teams are dealing with this as best they can, yet at the first sign of difficulty SA have cried off, resulting in massive losses for cash strapped unions, including their own.

So you want to risk the lives of our players just so that you can watch rugby?
That is a little shallow.

Umm, no.

Perhaps it would be better if you read my post before commenting.

[Dan54]

I do doubt if the Boks had agreed to come if a game would of been played. As seen with Lions on weekend, if any of those players were to be involved and it was picked up while they in isolation would of probably put an end to them taking part anyway. I disappointed Boks aren't in comp, but can kind of understand why. We have got Pumas having to postpone their warm up game against Tahs because not enough fit players, so they will go in against ABs with no rugby (even if they get a warm up in) and having to play 4 tests in 4 weeks I can see them having to default tests by the end. Bet they get at least a heap of soft tissue injuries.

[Carter's Choice]

NZ posters were so defensive about the earth quakes in CC yet they are first in line to trolls us about a life threatening virus.

The irony of all this.

What a stupid comment. Dishonest and stupid.

Those of us who were posting on the CHCH earthquake thread remember it well. Some posters were demanding that they had the right to make jokes and poke fun of dead and missing CHCH residents because of black humour and Yeeb's 'FHHD' rule. It was gross and shameful. Contrast that to today, and no-one is trolling South Africans who have died of covid-19. Your comment reeks of desperation and frankly makes you human scum. The SARU are liars and cowards and their betrayal of their SANZAAR partners will never, ever be forgotten.

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

Strange post, if players lives matter then cancel Super Rugby Unlocked. Sending some of your players to Australia, which has virtually no covid-19, is hardly a dangerous or risky thing to do.

[Enzedder]

SARU did exactly the right thing. Just look at what happened over the weekend.

Players lives matter

The Boks would be in a relatively covid-free environment if they had been allowed to compete in the RC. Instead they have been left to try to survive (your words) in a covid hell-hole by the sound of it.

I used "survive "?

You mentioned players lives so I thought we could safely assume you think they're at risk. I reckon they are more at risk in South Africa than in Australia

[Sandstorm]

Under 35s are indeed low risk to Covid. Those same people are risking their careers taking on battle-hardened Kiwis and Aussies on the field.

You muppets really need to look outside your own tiny back yard for 10 mins.

[Ted.]

Under 35s are indeed low risk to Covid. Those same people are risking their careers taking on battle-hardened Kiwis and Aussies on the field.

You muppets really need to look outside your own tiny back yard for 10 mins.

I don't think any of us have called your players softcocks. But well done to you.

[Guy Smiley]

Under 35s are indeed low risk to Covid. Those same people are risking their careers taking on battle-hardened Kiwis and Aussies on the field.

You muppets really need to look outside your own tiny back yard for 10 mins.

I don't think any of us have called your players softcocks. But well done to you.

I week ago the Saffas were warthogging about laughing at Australia and New Zealand over bailing from the tournament and boasting about being needed.

Now they’re crying for sympathy. Just despicable behaviour.

[Chilli]

I am not sure if certain of the Australian and New Zealand based posters understand Covid.

To me they are acting like a bunch of Trump supporters. Almost as if Covid doesn't exist.
Just a little flu.
It will be gone by the time the RC starts.

They don't care about our player welfare.

They were full of sympathy and understanding when the Crusaders didn't travel to play the Blues. Did any of the players even have Covid then? Or was it just due to the pandemic itself.

[Green light echo]

I am not sure if certain of the Australian and New Zealand based posters understand Covid.

To me they are acting like a bunch of Trump supporters. Almost as if Covid doesn't exist.
Just a little flu.
It will be gone by the time the RC starts.

They don't care about our player welfare.

They were full of sympathy and understanding when the Crusaders didn't travel to play the Blues. Did any of the players even have Covid then? Or was it just due to the pandemic itself.

Course it's only a little flu in Oz and NZ. We have reasonably functioning societies unlike you. You couldn't organise a root in a brothel. The Rugby Championship debacle and the general state of your rapidly failing country attest to that. Just remember when the mob comes for you and yours you are not welcome here. Enough chickenrunners here already.

What a poisoned people.

Not wanted here

[Chilli]

I am not sure if certain of the Australian and New Zealand based posters understand Covid.

To me they are acting like a bunch of Trump supporters. Almost as if Covid doesn't exist.
Just a little flu.
It will be gone by the time the RC starts.

They don't care about our player welfare.

They were full of sympathy and understanding when the Crusaders didn't travel to play the Blues. Did any of the players even have Covid then? Or was it just due to the pandemic itself.

Course it's only a little flu in Oz and NZ. We have reasonably functioning societies unlike you. You couldn't organise a root in a brothel. The Rugby Championship debacle and the general state of your rapidly failing country attest to that. Just remember when the mob comes for you and yours you are not welcome here. Enough chickenrunners here already.

What a poisoned people.

Not wanted here

Define mob please.

[Green light echo]

So your union is banking everything on the Lions tour proceeding Blake. That's a brave call.

Go away Kiwi. No one else is living on a Covid free island far, far away. You don’t get it.

Oh we get it alright. It's Africa. Incompetence, corruption, irrationality and delusion is endemic.
That's why substantial numbers of Jarpies fled to the ANZACS.

Your handling of Covid 19 and The Rugby Championship is just indicative of your little crocodile brains.

South Africa remains bad juju.

What a cursed land.

On the road to nowhere other than a failed state.

Enjoy boets.

You most definitely deserve it

[assfly]

Just to clarify for our upset Kiwi brothers. The decision was based on the match fitness of our players, not out of fear of catching COVID (after all, the tournament is in a country with much lower figures).

Even after this latest weekend of local rugby, key players are still working their way up to finishing a full 80 minutes.

The issue with the Lions team also shows that there is still a risk of some players catching Covid and not being able to come over at all.

[Chilli]

Just to clarify for our upset Kiwi brothers. The decision was based on the match fitness of our players, not out of fear of catching COVID (after all, the tournament is in a country with much lower figures).

Even after this latest weekend of local rugby, key players are still working their way up to finishing a full 80 minutes.

The issue with the Lions team also shows that there is still a risk of some players catching Covid and not being able to come over at all.

It is all Covid related

[Green light echo]

Just to clarify for our upset Kiwi brothers. The decision was based on the match fitness of our players, not out of fear of catching COVID (after all, the tournament is in a country with much lower figures).

Even after this latest weekend of local rugby, key players are still working their way up to finishing a full 80 minutes.

The issue with the Lions team also shows that there is still a risk of some players catching Covid and not being able to come over at all.

It is all Covid related

No it is all brain related and unfortunately for you South Africa continues to struggle big time in this area.

[Chilli]

Just to clarify for our upset Kiwi brothers. The decision was based on the match fitness of our players, not out of fear of catching COVID (after all, the tournament is in a country with much lower figures).

Even after this latest weekend of local rugby, key players are still working their way up to finishing a full 80 minutes.

The issue with the Lions team also shows that there is still a risk of some players catching Covid and not being able to come over at all.

It is all Covid related

No it is all brain related and unfortunately for you South Africa continues to struggle big time in this area.

Please reply to the question that I asked you earlier.

[Green light echo]

It is all Covid related

No it is all brain related and unfortunately for you South Africa continues to struggle big time in this area.

Please reply to the question that I asked you earlier.

So even though, i assume, you live in SA you don't know what a mob is

And your mate Oomthicko didn't know what Seppuku or Hari Kari was.

As I said gentlemen it's all about the GREY stuff, and for the slow Saffas I am not talking about your college dumbos.

[Blake]

Given the amount of leeway, including time, SA were given, they could have shown a bit more common sense in their planing and and guts in their decision making. They could have been in Aussie by now, with the fit players, while bringing those who are currently in isolation over once they have recovered. All teams are dealing with this as best they can, yet at the first sign of difficulty SA have cried off, resulting in massive losses for cash strapped unions, including their own.

I think you might be a little bit blinded by your bubble and ignorant of our circumstances.
While you were playing and enjoying Super Rugby we were going through our peak, where over 18k people have died.
Group gatherings (let alone training sessions) were not allowed until September.
As soon as training was allowed, our local players were out there training.
As soon as contact training was allowed, our local players were out there trying to get match fitness.
As soon as matches were allowed, we staged matches at the end of September.
The past weekend was only our 4th weekend of local rugby, and we already had one match postponed due or a Covid incident in the Lions' squad.

The reality is that this half baked tournament that we are being guilted into to stuff your pockets, is not in our best interest given our situation.
We wanted to participate because our fans are starving for Bok rugby and we have a new coach that wants to prepare for the B&I Lions Tour, but we can't play our best team, and made the tough call to withdraw.
Our local-based players are at risk of injury not being match fit, and we can't afford the insurance costs to get access to our European based players.
I respect the decision that was made and wish NZ, Australia and Argentina well in the tournament. I hope it goes ahead and there aren't any incidents that further derail all the meticulous planning that went into it.

[assfly]

I think you might be a little bit blinded by your bubble and ignorant of our circumstances.
While you were playing and enjoying Super Rugby we were going through our peak, where over 18k people have died.
Group gatherings (let alone training sessions) were not allowed until September.
As soon as training was allowed, our local players were out there training.
As soon as contact training was allowed, our local players were out there trying to get match fitness.
As soon as matches were allowed, we staged matches at the end of September.
The past weekend was only our 4th weekend of local rugby, and we already had one match postponed due or a Covid incident in the Lions' squad.

The reality is that this half baked tournament that we are being guilted into to stuff your pockets, is not in our best interest given our situation.
We wanted to participate because our fans are starving for Bok rugby and we have a new coach that wants to prepare for the B&I Lions Tour, but we can't play our best team, and made the tough call to withdraw.
Our local-based players are at risk of injury not being match fit, and we can't afford the insurance costs to get access to our European based players.
I respect the decision that was made and wish NZ, Australia and Argentina well in the tournament. I hope it goes ahead and there aren't any incidents that further derail all the meticulous planning that went into it.

This is the perfect summary of the situation.

[Chilli]

No it is all brain related and unfortunately for you South Africa continues to struggle big time in this area.

Please reply to the question that I asked you earlier.

So even though, i assume, you live in SA you don't know what a mob is

And your mate Oomthicko didn't know what Seppuku or Hari Kari was.

As I said gentlemen it's all about the GREY stuff, and for the slow Saffas I am not talking about your college dumbos.

Just answer the question. Who is this mob that you are referring to?

[assfly]

Just answer the question. Who is this mob that you are referring to?

Just ignore him ffs Chilli.

[Chilli]

Given the amount of leeway, including time, SA were given, they could have shown a bit more common sense in their planing and and guts in their decision making. They could have been in Aussie by now, with the fit players, while bringing those who are currently in isolation over once they have recovered. All teams are dealing with this as best they can, yet at the first sign of difficulty SA have cried off, resulting in massive losses for cash strapped unions, including their own.

I think you might be a little bit blinded by your bubble and ignorant of our circumstances.
While you were playing and enjoying Super Rugby we were going through our peak, where over 18k people have died.
Group gatherings (let alone training sessions) were not allowed until September.
As soon as training was allowed, our local players were out there training.
As soon as contact training was allowed, our local players were out there trying to get match fitness.
As soon as matches were allowed, we staged matches at the end of September.
The past weekend was only our 4th weekend of local rugby, and we already had one match postponed due or a Covid incident in the Lions' squad.

The reality is that this half baked tournament that we are being guilted into to stuff your pockets, is not in our best interest given our situation.
We wanted to participate because our fans are starving for Bok rugby and we have a new coach that wants to prepare for the B&I Lions Tour, but we can't play our best team, and made the tough call to withdraw.
Our local-based players are at risk of injury not being match fit, and we can't afford the insurance costs to get access to our European based players.
I respect the decision that was made and wish NZ, Australia and Argentina well in the tournament. I hope it goes ahead and there aren't any incidents that further derail all the meticulous planning that went into it.