So, coronavirus...

[Ymx]

What’s this all about?

Coronavirus: NHS staff flock to anti-vax group
Emma Yeomans | Kat Lay, Health Editor
Monday November 16 2020, 12.01am, The Times
Hundreds of NHS and care home staff have formed a group opposed to vaccinations, wearing masks and testing in hospitals.

The group, NHS Workers for Choice, No Restrictions for Declining a Vaccine, has gained more than 250 Facebook members in a month. They include a GP, several accident and emergency nurses, healthcare assistants, lab workers, and private and public care home staff.

It says it is not an anti-vaccine group and exists to support healthcare workers, but The Times found posts saying that the Pfizer-BionTech coronavirus vaccine was a new frozen virus, similar to smallpox, to be “unleashed” on the world. They compared it to “poison”.

One member who works in a GP’s surgery, said that she would rather quit than help with a vaccination



Julie Coffey, a Sheffield GP, has refused to wear a mask in shops and says coronavirus vaccines are being rushed through without proper safety checks

[Raggs]

250 members does not equal 250 nhs workers.

I went to university with med students, i trust their ability to pair symptoms with illnesses but not their ability to understand the how's and why's in many cases.

[Lemoentjie]

That rune-style necklace is a bit of a red flag if someone's talking about vaccines

[Sandstorm]

That rune-style necklace is a bit of a red flag if someone's talking about vaccines

[Rinkals]

So specifically which posters do you think you are stopping being scared?
Who are you saving?

Such a hero and saviour.

I am sure posters will let us know if they feel they are less scared now, as you assert after reading your posts.

Mr Narcissism please tell us who are these scared posters?

An accusation of narcissism from Mr “we are overwhelmed “ but look at me !


Irony has died on that one.

You might have a point if he wasn't right in this case.

How about you answer the question?

[Biffer]

Moderna vaccine is reported as having the same kind of effectiveness as the BioNTech, or even better - 95% figure given.

This vaccine can be stored at -20C for six months and in a regular fridge for a month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

[Longshanks]

Moderna vaccine is reported as having the same kind of effectiveness as the BioNTech, or even better - 95% figure given.

This vaccine can be stored at -20C for six months and in a regular fridge for a month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

Pfizer share price will drop then
Great news though

[Biffer]

Moderna vaccine is reported as having the same kind of effectiveness as the BioNTech, or even better - 95% figure given.

This vaccine can be stored at -20C for six months and in a regular fridge for a month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

Pfizer share price will drop then
Great news though

Doubt it, no reasonable investor would have made a big bet on Pfizer being the only vaccine. They're traded in the US, so we'll find out when they open. UK markets generally taken another boost on this news.

[Bimbowomxn]

How do they know it can be stored safely for 6 months.

[frodder]

How do they know it can be stored safely for 6 months.

Through stability trialling throughout the development

[Biffer]

How do they know it can be stored safely for 6 months.

Through stability trialling throughout the development

Cue lots of vague innuendo and pointing out things that he thinks are clever but are already covered by standard biotech methodologies he doesn't understand.

[Bimbowomxn]

How do they know it can be stored safely for 6 months.

Through stability trialling throughout the development

Would this be normal or would they normally test it over a longer period of time.?

It clearly hasn’t been tested over 6 months.

[Longshanks]

Moderna vaccine is reported as having the same kind of effectiveness as the BioNTech, or even better - 95% figure given.

This vaccine can be stored at -20C for six months and in a regular fridge for a month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

Pfizer share price will drop then
Great news though

Doubt it, no reasonable investor would have made a big bet on Pfizer being the only vaccine. They're traded in the US, so we'll find out when they open. UK markets generally taken another boost on this news.

Considering the share price rose 15% on the day of their announcement of the vaccine, it may.
But who cares apart from investors, just great news.
Looking forward to hearing about Oxford soon

[Rhubarb & Custard]

How do they know it can be stored safely for 6 months.

Through stability trialling throughout the development

And one assumes this isn't as such new technology

[Bimbowomxn]

How do they know it can be stored safely for 6 months.

Through stability trialling throughout the development

And one assumes this isn't as such new technology

It’s the first vaccine of its type .... completely new technology.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Through stability trialling throughout the development

And one assumes this isn't as such new technology

It’s the first vaccine of its type .... completely new technology.

So this isn't a messenger RNA vaccine?

[Bimbowomxn]

And one assumes this isn't as such new technology

It’s the first vaccine of its type .... completely new technology.

So this isn't a messenger RNA vaccine?

Sorry, I’ll be clear for the hard of thinking these would be the first RNA vaccines in human use with all previous efforts failing. The tech used is new.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

It’s the first vaccine of its type .... completely new technology.

So this isn't a messenger RNA vaccine?

Sorry, I’ll be clear for the hard of thinking these would be the first RNA vaccines in human use with all previous efforts failing. The tech used is new.

You'd do better being quiet than trying to be clear, as clearly you've no idea what you're talking about. There's sort of some semblance of a point in there, but it's not useful or accurate commentary you're making.

[Bimbowomxn]

You'd do better being quiet than trying to be clear, as clearly you've no idea what you're talking about. There's sort of some semblance of a point in there, but it's not useful or accurate commentary you're making.

I’ll be quite when you inform me about all the other RNA vaccines being used by humans then ?

Either way splitting hairs regarding previous failures to try and mis describe the vaccines is no semblance of a,point.this point in fact

And one assumes this isn't as such new technology

The technology is very new.

[fishfoodie]

So this isn't a messenger RNA vaccine?

Sorry, I’ll be clear for the hard of thinking these would be the first RNA vaccines in human use with all previous efforts failing. The tech used is new.

You'd do better being quiet than trying to be clear, as clearly you've no idea what you're talking about. There's sort of some semblance of a point in there, but it's not useful or accurate commentary you're making.

You're hardly surprised that the douche nozzle is going full anti-vaxxer now, are you ?

[Sandstorm]

You're hardly surprised that the douche nozzle is going full anti-vaxxer now, are you ?

Bimbot has already bet all his algorithms on herd immunity.

[Rinkals]

Sorry, I’ll be clear for the hard of thinking these would be the first RNA vaccines in human use with all previous efforts failing. The tech used is new.

You'd do better being quiet than trying to be clear, as clearly you've no idea what you're talking about. There's sort of some semblance of a point in there, but it's not useful or accurate commentary you're making.

You're hardly surprised that the douche nozzle is going full anti-vaxxer now, are you ?

He is the recognised expert, after all.

In his own mind, if nobody else's.

[Bimbowomxn]

Sorry, I’ll be clear for the hard of thinking these would be the first RNA vaccines in human use with all previous efforts failing. The tech used is new.

You'd do better being quiet than trying to be clear, as clearly you've no idea what you're talking about. There's sort of some semblance of a point in there, but it's not useful or accurate commentary you're making.

You're hardly surprised that the douche nozzle is going full anti-vaxxer now, are you ?

God that’s a stupid assertion even by your cretinous standards.

[Bimbowomxn]

Currently the authorities are questioning the safety of the various vaccines. According to posters here that makes them “anti vaccines “.

[Insane_Homer]

Due to technical difficulties we are unable to update the dashboard before 6pm.

Best reporting!

[Sandstorm]

Due to technical difficulties we are unable to update the dashboard before 6pm.

Best reporting!

You'll have to masterbate over something else instead.

[Longshanks]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

[Slick]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

You’ve got to hand it to Trump

[fishfoodie]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

Its amazing what can happen when every scientist in the planet, & their Governments & corporations all pull in the same direction.

But it shouldn't be a surprise; for decades Ebola was killing thousands in Africa, & very little happened; but once a couple of people started showing up in Europe, & America with it; there was finally a big push to develop a vaccine for it, & one was developed.

[Raggs]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

Its amazing what can happen when every scientist in the planet, & their Governments & corporations all pull in the same direction.

But it shouldn't be a surprise; for decades Ebola was killing thousands in Africa, & very little happened; but once a couple of people started showing up in Europe, & America with it; there was finally a big push to develop a vaccine for it, & one was developed.

Yep. Soon as something threatens the western world, it becomes a lot more serious.

[Bimbowomxn]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

Its amazing what can happen when every scientist in the planet, & their Governments & corporations all pull in the same direction.

But it shouldn't be a surprise; for decades Ebola was killing thousands in Africa, & very little happened; but once a couple of people started showing up in Europe, & America with it; there was finally a big push to develop a vaccine for it, & one was developed.

Yep. Soon as something threatens the western world, it becomes a lot more serious.

And affordable.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Sorry, I’ll be clear for the hard of thinking these would be the first RNA vaccines in human use with all previous efforts failing. The tech used is new.

You'd do better being quiet than trying to be clear, as clearly you've no idea what you're talking about. There's sort of some semblance of a point in there, but it's not useful or accurate commentary you're making.

You're hardly surprised that the douche nozzle is going full anti-vaxxer now, are you ?

I didn't take it as being anti-vaxx. And therapeutic use is limited, but the tech isn't new, it's decades in development and there's now an awful lot understood around how it works including in this instance how it can be stored. They're not pinning a variety of answers on the wall and throwing darts whilst blindfolded to pick an option.

[Insane_Homer]

213 new deaths
21,363 new cases

last Monday, there were 194 deaths (+19) and 21,350 cases (+13)

[Longshanks]

213 new deaths
21,363 new cases

last Monday, there were 194 deaths (+19) and 21,350 cases (+13)

Hopefully we are starting to turn a corner
They'll be a lot of deaths tomorrow though

[Biffer]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

Nah. That'd need vaccines for around 200 different viruses - that's why we don't have one, the common cold isn't one disease, it's a couple of hundred. And there's no financial return on developing a vaccine for a couple of percent of cases of the common cold.

[Longshanks]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

Nah. That'd need vaccines for around 200 different viruses - that's why we don't have one, the common cold isn't one disease, it's a couple of hundred. And there's no financial return on developing a vaccine for a couple of percent of cases of the common cold.

Some of the therapeutics being developed i was referring to for the common cold
I realise I didn't make that clear

[Sandstorm]

Back in February many scientists were saying we were unlikely to see a successful covid vaccine
Today 4 are claiming they work and are safe, and that's without lots of others in development.
Maybe we'll also get a cure for the common cold out of this too.

Nah. That'd need vaccines for around 200 different viruses - that's why we don't have one, the common cold isn't one disease, it's a couple of hundred. And there's no financial return on developing a vaccine for a couple of percent of cases of the common cold.

Couple of cases? Common cold kills millions every week! It’s just like Covid19.

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Bloody hell! Fantastic! Matched my answers exactly!

All wrong..