President Trump and US politics catchall

[Saint]

Just read the whole PA judgement. Holy shit

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Just read the whole PA judgement. Holy shit

Diaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined

[fishfoodie]

Just read the whole PA judgement. Holy shit

Diaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined

It's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !

He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.

I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Will SCOTUS even hear his case? I know he's the President but surely they have actual work to be getting on with? Most courts are badly backed up, but if they do choose to find the time to listen to Rudy I've not much sympathy for any claims about a backlog

[Saint]

Will SCOTUS even hear his case? I know he's the President but surely they have actual work to be getting on with? Most courts are badly backed up, but if they do choose to find the time to listen to Rudy I've not much sympathy for any claims about a backlog

I think there us a reasonable chance that they may choose to hear it - but at this stage it would purely be so that they can destroy Rudy and make it clear that this sort of BS won't be tolerated in future

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Will SCOTUS even hear his case? I know he's the President but surely they have actual work to be getting on with? Most courts are badly backed up, but if they do choose to find the time to listen to Rudy I've not much sympathy for any claims about a backlog

I think there us a reasonable chance that they may choose to hear it - but at this stage it would purely be so that they can destroy Rudy and make it clear that this sort of BS won't be tolerated in future

They'll get that chance when someone asks them if Donnie can pardon himself

[Biffer]

Just read the whole PA judgement. Holy shit

Diaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined

It's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !

He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.

I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences

What consequences? They have a lifetime position on the supreme court and three of the conservative judges owe nothing to Trump. The longer standing ones will judge according to law for sure. Rudy will be destroyed.

[fishfoodie]

Diaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined

It's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !

He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.

I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences

What consequences? They have a lifetime position on the supreme court and three of the conservative judges owe nothing to Trump. The longer standing ones will judge according to law for sure. Rudy will be destroyed.

the consequence that if they act in a blatantly political way; then the legislator gets to take actions to depoliticize the court. That might mean seeking to impeach a Justice, or imposing term limits, (which they should anyway), or packing the court.

I tend to agree the conservatives won't want to have to vote against Trump; hence the diapers

[Ovals]

It's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !

He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.

I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences

What consequences? They have a lifetime position on the supreme court and three of the conservative judges owe nothing to Trump. The longer standing ones will judge according to law for sure. Rudy will be destroyed.

the consequence that if they act in a blatantly political way; then the legislator gets to take actions to depoliticize the court. That might mean seeking to impeach a Justice, or imposing term limits, (which they should anyway), or packing the court.

I tend to agree the conservatives won't want to have to vote against Trump; hence the diapers

I think the SCOTUS will see other potential consequences, for the country, if they are seen to undermine an election that saw Biden win by over 6M votes and 70+ electoral votes. It would basically make elections/democracy impossible and run the risk of mass civil disobedience.

[Saint]

Trump planning to launch Trump 2024 campaign with an event at the same time as the inaugural

[Ovals]

Trump planning to launch Trump 2024 campaign with an event at the same time as the inaugural

Unless he's able to be in two places, at the same time, that's effectively a concession.

[fishfoodie]

I think Biden needs to toughen up & be judicious where he reaches out to the GOP; & for a starter, if Diaper Don isn't going to concede graciously; then the cunt shouldn't be invited to the inauguration.

There's no requirement for him to be there, & if he's just going to be a cunt; the best thing is to deny him the platform.

[Saint]

Invited or not, does anyone seriously believe Trump will be at Biden's inauguration? I very much doubt that he's returning to DC after Christmas

[Hong Kong]

boo-hoo, wah, wah! Not fair. Stamps feet. Throws toys out

[Ata Rangi]

Trump planning to launch Trump 2024 campaign with an event at the same time as the inaugural

He was well ahead of the curve with social distancing at the inauguration in 2017.

[Gumboot]

Trump planning to launch Trump 2024 campaign with an event at the same time as the inaugural

He was well ahead of the curve with social distancing at the inauguration in 2017.

[Chilli]

Trump planning to launch Trump 2024 campaign with an event at the same time as the inaugural

He was well ahead of the curve with social distancing at the inauguration in 2017.

Brilliant

[Hong Kong]

[Rinkals]

Is this ridgi-didge?

[Marylandolorian]

So true.

[dpedin]

Is this ridgi-didge?

Always wondered what a bucket of frogs looked like!

[Rinkals]

Is this ridgi-didge?

Always wondered what a bucket of frogs looked like!

I can't believe that this is mainstream television in Australia.

From the logo on the top left, this is Sky News, which should be semi-respectable and trusted.

I presume that Uncle Rupe is still batting for Trump even after Fox has mustered a strategic withdrawal.

[laurent]

Is this ridgi-didge?

Always wondered what a bucket of frogs looked like!

I resent this ...

[fishfoodie]

Even the Lincoln Project; that played an important part in being the, "Good Republicans"; is now in a place where they need to appeal to the orange scrote, to just stop damaging the GOP

For the love of God; Shut the Fuck Up !

I don't know how many times over the last 4+ years; those exact words have gone thru my mind when the thick fuck opened his mouth.

It should be written in human excrement on his gravestone.

[Grandpa]

Is this ridgi-didge?

Aussie still do satire better than anyone... how they kept a straight face... I bet some people even thought it was real...

[Gumboot]

Even the Lincoln Project; that played an important part in being the, "Good Republicans"; is now in a place where they need to appeal to the orange scrote, to just stop damaging the GOP

For the love of God; Shut the Fuck Up !

I don't know how many times over the last 4+ years; those exact words have gone thru my mind when the thick fuck opened his mouth.

It should be written in human excrement on his gravestone.

[Saint]

Reports that Rudi is seeking a pardon - for himself

[Guy Smiley]

Is this ridgi-didge?

Aussie still do satire better than anyone... how they kept a straight face... I bet some people even thought it was real...

Yup. Can confirm, that is a real show, not satire.

[fishfoodie]

Reports that Rudi is seeking a pardon - for himself

"America's Mayor", admits he's done horrific, illegal shit, & if he doesn't get a pardon, he's facing hard time .... imagine that ....

So if he's needs a pardon; he's admitting that all the Ukraine/Russian interference allegations were absolutely spot on !

There is no other interpretation for him needing a pardon; because if he did nothing wrong; what would he need a pardon for ?

2nd Lowest form of dogshit.

[Hong Kong]

Reports that Rudi is seeking a pardon - for himself

"America's Mayor", admits he's done horrific, illegal shit, & if he doesn't get a pardon, he's facing hard time .... imagine that ....

So if he's needs a pardon; he's admitting that all the Ukraine/Russian interference allegations were absolutely spot on !

There is no other interpretation for him needing a pardon; because if he did nothing wrong; what would he need a pardon for ?

2nd Lowest form of dogshit.

And with blubber Barr about to be given the boot for ~lying~ (telling the truth) about the lack of fraud, he’d better get his pleading in soon

[fishfoodie]

Now here's a question for the legal eagles !

If the gimp Rudy, takes a Federal Pardon; & admits his guilt; what happens if the next Administration gets serious, & subpoenas him to give evidence about foreign collusion to get the Orange scum elected ?

He can't stand mute, or he gets done for contempt.

He can't plead the 5th; as he already has a pardon; so he can be found in contempt, if he doesn't answer questions.

He can't deny knowledge; of complicity; as he's already admitted these, by accepting the pardon.

Either he tells what he knows; or his pardon is useless, as you can't pardon someone for crimes they commit in the future; & if he tells what he knows; he drops the Orange cunt in the shit; & admits that he colluded with the Russians to get the cunt elected.

[Hong Kong]

Now here's a question for the legal eagles !

If the gimp Rudy, takes a Federal Pardon; & admits his guilt; what happens if the next Administration gets serious, & subpoenas him to give evidence about foreign collusion to get the Orange scum elected ?

He can't stand mute, or he gets done for contempt.

He can't plead the 5th; as he already has a pardon; so he can be found in contempt, if he doesn't answer questions.

He can't deny knowledge; of complicity; as he's already admitted these, by accepting the pardon.

Either he tells what he knows; or his pardon is useless, as you can't pardon someone for crimes they commit in the future; & if he tells what he knows; he drops the Orange cunt in the shit; & admits that he colluded with the Russians to get the cunt elected.

I’ve read somewhere, possibly on the bored, that a pardon does not necessarily equate to a guilty plea although I found the reasoning dubious at best.

[Rinkals]

Is this ridgi-didge?

Aussie still do satire better than anyone... how they kept a straight face... I bet some people even thought it was real...

I certainly wasn't sure, which is why I asked the question.

[fishfoodie]

Now here's a question for the legal eagles !

If the gimp Rudy, takes a Federal Pardon; & admits his guilt; what happens if the next Administration gets serious, & subpoenas him to give evidence about foreign collusion to get the Orange scum elected ?

He can't stand mute, or he gets done for contempt.

He can't plead the 5th; as he already has a pardon; so he can be found in contempt, if he doesn't answer questions.

He can't deny knowledge; of complicity; as he's already admitted these, by accepting the pardon.

Either he tells what he knows; or his pardon is useless, as you can't pardon someone for crimes they commit in the future; & if he tells what he knows; he drops the Orange cunt in the shit; & admits that he colluded with the Russians to get the cunt elected.

I’ve read somewhere, possibly on the bored, that a pardon does not necessarily equate to a guilty plea although I found the reasoning dubious at best.

The DoJs guidelines don't leave much room for doubt.

A pardon is an expression of the President’s forgiveness and ordinarily is granted in recognition of the applicant’s acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or completion of sentence. It does not signify innocence. It does, however, remove civil disabilities – e.g., restrictions on the right to vote, hold state or local office, or sit on a jury – imposed because of the conviction for which pardon is sought, and should lessen the stigma arising from the conviction. It may also be helpful in obtaining licenses, bonding, or employment. Under some – but not all – circumstances, a pardon will eliminate the legal basis for removal or deportation from the United States.

[Saint]

Now here's a question for the legal eagles !

If the gimp Rudy, takes a Federal Pardon; & admits his guilt; what happens if the next Administration gets serious, & subpoenas him to give evidence about foreign collusion to get the Orange scum elected ?

He can't stand mute, or he gets done for contempt.

He can't plead the 5th; as he already has a pardon; so he can be found in contempt, if he doesn't answer questions.

He can't deny knowledge; of complicity; as he's already admitted these, by accepting the pardon.

Either he tells what he knows; or his pardon is useless, as you can't pardon someone for crimes they commit in the future; & if he tells what he knows; he drops the Orange cunt in the shit; & admits that he colluded with the Russians to get the cunt elected.

I’ve read somewhere, possibly on the bored, that a pardon does not necessarily equate to a guilty plea although I found the reasoning dubious at best.

There's lots of legal theories doing the rounds that specifically invalidate previous understanding. Some in the GOP are pushing the idea that a presidential pardon DOES actually cover state level crimes. There's an implication that the pardon implies guilt, but that seems to be based on Gerald Ford's comments on the Nixon pardon and a mis-reading of Burdick vs United States. It's by no means settled law

[JM2K6]

Now here's a question for the legal eagles !

If the gimp Rudy, takes a Federal Pardon; & admits his guilt; what happens if the next Administration gets serious, & subpoenas him to give evidence about foreign collusion to get the Orange scum elected ?

He can't stand mute, or he gets done for contempt.

He can't plead the 5th; as he already has a pardon; so he can be found in contempt, if he doesn't answer questions.

He can't deny knowledge; of complicity; as he's already admitted these, by accepting the pardon.

Either he tells what he knows; or his pardon is useless, as you can't pardon someone for crimes they commit in the future; & if he tells what he knows; he drops the Orange cunt in the shit; & admits that he colluded with the Russians to get the cunt elected.

I’ve read somewhere, possibly on the bored, that a pardon does not necessarily equate to a guilty plea although I found the reasoning dubious at best.

The DoJs guidelines don't leave much room for doubt.

A pardon is an expression of the President’s forgiveness and ordinarily is granted in recognition of the applicant’s acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or completion of sentence. It does not signify innocence. It does, however, remove civil disabilities – e.g., restrictions on the right to vote, hold state or local office, or sit on a jury – imposed because of the conviction for which pardon is sought, and should lessen the stigma arising from the conviction. It may also be helpful in obtaining licenses, bonding, or employment. Under some – but not all – circumstances, a pardon will eliminate the legal basis for removal or deportation from the United States.

Ordinarily doesn't mean in every case. Being pardoned for things you've not yet been convicted of, or even investigated for cannot be an admission of guilt in that sense; you weren't found guilty in the first place! There was a really good episode of All The President's Lawyers where they talked about this, but basically: the presidential pardon power is ridiculously broad and no it does not mean admission of guilt.

[Sandstorm]

Rudi will just claim attorney-client privilege.

[Slick]

He was in particularly deranged dangerous nut job mode yesterday.

Particularly liked him retweeting the video of the Republican guy in Georgia pleading with him to call off the hounds threatening death and rape to officals, and pouring more oil on the fire.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Rudi will just claim attorney-client privilege.

Over payments to be made as part of a bribery scheme? Good luck with convincing a court privilege is anywhere near the same Zip code

[fishfoodie]

He was in particularly deranged dangerous nut job mode yesterday.

Particularly liked him retweeting the video of the Republican guy in Georgia pleading with him to call off the hounds threatening death and rape to officals, and pouring more oil on the fire.

I can't wait for the day twitter cuts off his account.

It'll be like making a junkie go cold turkey.