Weekend Match Threads Thread - 05/12/20

[PCPhil]

1). England forgotten how to play with all this kicking
2). Showing at the rucks. Wish more England forwards would stop standing off and slowing up the backline.

[tc27]

We need halftime.

We eked out wins agaonst shit Celtic teams..we aren't that good though.

[Torquemada 1420]

Shoulda gone for the lineout.

[JM2K6]

It's so strange having a coach that's so desperate to reduce our attacking ability.

[PCPhil]

That. Was. Pathetic.

[Torquemada 1420]

So much for Eddie's Orcs smashing their way over France C.

[Longshanks]

Great defence
France well up for this
Incredible

[Yeeb]

France did brill there

[sockwithaticket]

We are so braindead.

[JM2K6]

When we moved it wider we were an inch from scoring so let's not do that again

Billy fucked that for Genge

[PCPhil]

Great defence
France well up for this
Incredible

But there were so many times they could have gone to the backs. The only time they did was the wring time.

[Hal Jordan]

White line stupidity as usual.

[PCPhil]

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[Slick]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

[Torquemada 1420]

Oh. And Couilloud held Vunipola up over the line: Serin would have sh*t the bed.

[ASMO]

4 man overlap completely ignored, deserve to lose, useless cunts

[BnM]

WTF god that was frustrating. it clearly wasn't working. Reminded me of the Borthwick era.

[sockwithaticket]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

No, most of these guys play far more inventively for their clubs (low bar...), but it's apparently all Eddie seems willing to let them try.

[JM2K6]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

It's clearly not the best we can produce, but it's what Eddie wants us to do.

[JM2K6]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

No, most of these guys play far more inventively for their clubs (low bar...), but it's apparently all Eddie seems willing to let them try.

It's not a huge amount of time since we were playing good rugby with the same players.

[Torquemada 1420]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

Eng have already lost. Whatever the final score. This is France C.

[Hal Jordan]

That French 6 looks a real raw boned big fucker.

As usual, when we can't dominate up front, we have nothing else.

[SaintK]

We are so braindead.

It appears so

[Lemoentjie]

Why do England play Farrell? He is not a very good player, except for decent place kicking. His defence is terrible (justice for Esterhuizen) and he can't direct an attack, and has no flair or vision. Do England need him because there is no other competent place kicker?

[sockwithaticket]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

No, most of these guys play far more inventively for their clubs (low bar...), but it's apparently all Eddie seems willing to let them try.

It's not a huge amount of time since we were playing good rugby with the same players.

It feels like forever.

[Longshanks]

You can knock England for keeping it with the forwards, but most defences would have yielded under that pressure
This is a proper game of rugby.

[Torquemada 1420]

It's not a huge amount of time since we were playing good rugby with the same players.

But you lost a few games and Jones gets all obsessive about that.

Well, we asked what would happen if Eng met a physical match and I guess we've seen the answer.

[Torquemada 1420]

You can knock England for keeping it with the forwards, but most defences would have yielded under that pressure
The is a proper game of rugby.

I should be fair and say although this is France C in Galthie's mind, there are a few players out there who should be in or are as good as the 1st choices.

[tc27]

Not sure what we do from here with the tools we have.

They are getting outside our rush defence, returning our kicks well and matching our physicality and defence.

[sockwithaticket]

Why do England play Farrell? He is not a very good player, except for decent place kicking. His defence is terrible (justice for Esterhuizen) and he can't direct an attack, and has no flair or vision. Do England need him because there is no other competent place kicker?

A question many of us ask!

When coaches praise him they usually bang on about his attitude and how he drives standards in training. Which makes him sound like a great cheerleader or assistant coach. His contributions on the field are rarely seem to be more than we could get out of someone else.

[ASMO]

First half decent team they face , England fold like a cheap deck of cards

[JM2K6]

Why do England play Farrell? He is not a very good player, except for decent place kicking. His defence is terrible (justice for Esterhuizen) and he can't direct an attack, and has no flair or vision. Do England need him because there is no other competent place kicker?

We have three excellent goal kickers in Ford, Slade, and Daly. Farrell was dogshit at ten for a few games and has continued that form. At his best he makes good decisions, kicks brilliantly, and leads a ferocious defence. He's not often at his best.

[sockwithaticket]

Not sure what we do from here with the tools we have.

They are getting outside our rush defence, returning our kicks well and matching our physicality and defence.

The tools are fine, however Eddie seems to be trying to use screw drivers as spanners or hammers to tighten nuts.

[Slick]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

It's clearly not the best we can produce, but it's what Eddie wants us to do.

Yup, really frustrating. Slade, May, Daley, Anthony whatsisname all excellent runners and we never see them

[Torquemada 1420]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

It's clearly not the best we can produce, but it's what Eddie wants us to do.

Yup, really frustrating. Slade, May, Daley, Anthony whatsisname all excellent runners and we never see them

How do you suggest Eng bring them into the game with Youngs at SH?

[JM2K6]

Brilliant defence but is this really the best England can produce. I think they will still win this but it’s so turgid, dreadful to watch

It's clearly not the best we can produce, but it's what Eddie wants us to do.

Yup, really frustrating. Slade, May, Daley, Anthony whatsisname all excellent runners and we never see them

And loads of good ball carriers in the pack who are only there to set up box kicks or bosh from 5m out.

[Slick]

It's clearly not the best we can produce, but it's what Eddie wants us to do.

Yup, really frustrating. Slade, May, Daley, Anthony whatsisname all excellent runners and we never see them

And loads of good ball carriers in the pack who are only there to set up box kicks or bosh from 5m out.

Quite, a back line like that behind those forwards should be a dream

[Hal Jordan]

Even when the ball is loose on the floor Farrell tries to put his foot through it.

[Torquemada 1420]

It's clearly not the best we can produce, but it's what Eddie wants us to do.

Yup, really frustrating. Slade, May, Daley, Anthony whatsisname all excellent runners and we never see them

And loads of good ball carriers in the pack who are only there to set up box kicks or bosh from 5m out.

Still doesn't answer the SH question. And Daley at FB....

[Lemoentjie]

Why do England play Farrell? He is not a very good player, except for decent place kicking. His defence is terrible (justice for Esterhuizen) and he can't direct an attack, and has no flair or vision. Do England need him because there is no other competent place kicker?

A question many of us ask!

When coaches praise him they usually bang on about his attitude and how he drives standards in training. Which makes him sound like a great cheerleader or assistant coach. His contributions on the field are rarely seem to be more than we could get out of someone else.

Attitude shouldn't ever be an issue for international rugby players, nor training standards. Although in reality it may be different, perhaps Jones doesn't want to upset the balance