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Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am To be fair to Kolisi would more than likely start in the CURRENT Sharks pack.
I think he may be a better hooker than a flank. I'd give him an opportunity in the 2 jersey to see how he gets on. You never know, could be the big break he's been looking for.
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What do you mean with big break? He's been on a break his entire career.
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Glenwood boy Jaco Coetzee would be a good way to start spending our millions.
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assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:48 am
Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am To be fair to Kolisi would more than likely start in the CURRENT Sharks pack.
I think he may be a better hooker than a flank. I'd give him an opportunity in the 2 jersey to see how he gets on. You never know, could be the big break he's been looking for.
You never know hey.
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Sards wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:11 pm Back to work next Monday. Sucks big time.
Had a masseuse come around this afternoon for a home session and all those lumps and bumps are tender right now but I am sure it's going to be great later. Just had a glass of water..then its dubie time and a dip in the pool ... and then braai time. Trying to create the illusion of a tropical getaway before I put shoulder to the grind wheel again....

Who is back at work already?.

In a move designed to bolster the Sharks’ ambitions of becoming a global force in world rugby, the KwaZulu-Natal franchise has welcomed a dynamic new investor as their majority partner,’ a statement read.
Brian van Zyl, the newly elected president of the KwaZulu-Natal Rugby Union, expressed confidence that the partnership has come at the right time and with the right partners for the Sharks.

‘In all our dealings with Marco Masotti, it was abundantly clear that his consortium, together with SuperSport, will bring not only greater commercial savviness but also international ties that will result in the Sharks becoming one of the most recognised global sports brands,’ Van Zyl said.
I never left work, take my holiday in April and June/July these days.
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average joe wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:50 am What do you mean with big break? He's been on a break his entire career.
If Mrs Kolisi read this statement she would trash you on twitter.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:12 pm
handyman wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:16 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:02 pm
Very true. :oops:

Saru rules for semi is that the team with the higher log position go through if its cancelled for whatever reason.

Goodbye Sharks.
Well, if that is true, then the better teams will contest the final. Just a pity it could not have been at Newlands, the second oldest rugby stadium in the world.
CC finals between Bulls vs WP is like WC finals between Springbokke vs All Blacks.

The biggest rivalry in SA Rugby.
Quite correct, it's what everyone wants to see.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:56 am Glenwood boy Jaco Coetzee would be a good way to start spending our millions.
We need more depth across all positions. We're still reeling from the departure of the du Preez brother, Akker, Coenie. Whilst I'm all for developing our young team further, it would be good to have some more experienced heads there too. Bosch is our main playmaker, but I don't even know who our backup 10 is if he's injured. Nohamba?
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Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:41 am Fantastic news about the deal with MVM Holdings, especially with our move up north so close. The extra cash will allow us to hold onto the extra talent and compete with the NH salaries. Great to hear about their grand plans for the Sharks brand too.

I see the link is between Vincent Mai and Kolisi. I doubt this is enough to get Kolisi to move up to Durban; especially if his roots are in CT and he has kids there. At least he has a guaranteed starting spot at WP, might not be the case at the Sharks.
To be fair to Kolisi would more than likely start in the CURRENT Sharks pack.
Quite correct. It would be interesting to see the saarkies posters reaction to that.
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handyman wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:05 am
Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:41 am Fantastic news about the deal with MVM Holdings, especially with our move up north so close. The extra cash will allow us to hold onto the extra talent and compete with the NH salaries. Great to hear about their grand plans for the Sharks brand too.

I see the link is between Vincent Mai and Kolisi. I doubt this is enough to get Kolisi to move up to Durban; especially if his roots are in CT and he has kids there. At least he has a guaranteed starting spot at WP, might not be the case at the Sharks.
To be fair to Kolisi would more than likely start in the CURRENT Sharks pack.
Quite correct. It would be interesting to see the saarkies posters reaction to that.
Siya the Saaaark sounds good to me.
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Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:13 am
handyman wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:05 am
Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am

To be fair to Kolisi would more than likely start in the CURRENT Sharks pack.
Quite correct. It would be interesting to see the saarkies posters reaction to that.
Siya the Saaaark sounds good to me.
That's a perfect example of alliteration right there boet, it's meant to be.
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assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:41 am Fantastic news about the deal with MVM Holdings, especially with our move up north so close. The extra cash will allow us to hold onto the extra talent and compete with the NH salaries. Great to hear about their grand plans for the Sharks brand too.

I see the link is between Vincent Mai and Kolisi. I doubt this is enough to get Kolisi to move up to Durban; especially if his roots are in CT and he has kids there. At least he has a guaranteed starting spot at WP, might not be the case at the Sharks.
His roots is PE, closer to the Sharks.
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“You go where you think the opportunity is,” Masotti told Daily Maverick from New York. “I initially looked at the Stormers because I was approached by [WP board member] Andre van der Veen. At that stage I didn’t think the Sharks were an opportunity. "

“So, you go where the opportunity arises. The more I learnt about the Sharks franchise I was impressed. They have a really good management team in place, they were proactive and responsive and we seem to share the same vision"

“You know, I asked for due diligence information from Ed Coetzee and he produced it in two or three days. It was the type of professionalism I’m used to dealing with in New York. There was thoroughness and responsiveness, which showed it is a well-run business.” 

Masotti didn’t have to say it, but it was obvious that the dealings of the Sharks were the polar opposite of those from the WPRFU, which spent months stringing the consortium along..

MVM has paid an undisclosed sum but it is believed to be the same R100-million it offered the WPRFU for the stake. The KwaZulu-Natal Rugby Union (KZNRU) and SuperSport International hold the other 49% share. 
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Kitshoff apparently heading for France...

Pity the Sharks couldn't nail something down.
Nows the time if you want some bargain basement purchasing from WP.
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handyman wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:05 am
Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:41 am Fantastic news about the deal with MVM Holdings, especially with our move up north so close. The extra cash will allow us to hold onto the extra talent and compete with the NH salaries. Great to hear about their grand plans for the Sharks brand too.

I see the link is between Vincent Mai and Kolisi. I doubt this is enough to get Kolisi to move up to Durban; especially if his roots are in CT and he has kids there. At least he has a guaranteed starting spot at WP, might not be the case at the Sharks.
To be fair to Kolisi would more than likely start in the CURRENT Sharks pack.
Quite correct. It would be interesting to see the saarkies posters reaction to that.
Tbh it will just be another PSDT....
You will be lucky to get 80 minutes in a season out of him.
But the style of play would definitely suite him. And if you see how Notsche has blossomed under professional tutelage you never know what Kolisi could provide in the future. And of course Notsche would be talking to Kolisi about how much better it is at the Sharks
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I've also heard that PSdT is done with WP, and that he's off to Montpellier. Not sure if true, but not unsurprising.
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Looks like talks with Kolisi are more serious than I thought:

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolisi-coup-sharks/
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assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:52 am Looks like talks with Kolisi are more serious than I thought:

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolisi-coup-sharks/
Completely expected. Sards was right, the WPRU is finished, toast, over. We'll be out of the Top Division and playing Vodacom Cup by 2023.
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:11 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:52 am Looks like talks with Kolisi are more serious than I thought:

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolisi-coup-sharks/
Completely expected. Sards was right, the WPRU is finished, toast, over. We'll be out of the Top Division and playing Vodacom Cup by 2023.
Oomslaaiblaai will tell you there's laaitjies in Paarl Gym that plays better than these losers, so no worries.
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average joe wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:53 am
Sandstorm wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:11 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:52 am Looks like talks with Kolisi are more serious than I thought:

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolisi-coup-sharks/
Completely expected. Sards was right, the WPRU is finished, toast, over. We'll be out of the Top Division and playing Vodacom Cup by 2023.
Oomslaaiblaai will tell you there's laaitjies in Paarl Gym that plays better than these losers, so no worries.
Yep excellent news for WeePee. Sards now Kolisi biggest supporter
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Now the Sharks won't have money for fat Frans Malherbe
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average joe wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:53 am
Sandstorm wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:11 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:52 am Looks like talks with Kolisi are more serious than I thought:

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolisi-coup-sharks/
Completely expected. Sards was right, the WPRU is finished, toast, over. We'll be out of the Top Division and playing Vodacom Cup by 2023.
Oomslaaiblaai will tell you there's laaitjies in Paarl Gym that plays better than these losers, so no worries.
We always have a never ending chain of talented youngsters coming through. Not sure why you are suurgat about it?
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:57 am Now the Sharks won't have money for fat Frans Malherbe
Oom, the comments about Malherbe on here are laughable. He has taken on every prop in the country and came out not just on top, but dominating. One just wished they were gracious enough to concede that.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:57 am Now the Sharks won't have money for fat Frans Malherbe
Players have to move on some time or the other. As long as you have youngsters coming through WP rugby will never die. Fat Frans should move to Japan permanently, it would do him a world of good. Like we saw at the world cup, he needs the humidity, where his ball sack sticks to his inner thigh when he just looks at a pie.
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Instead of trying to be a smart arse WP supporters should be mobilizing to remove the ANC and that vraat Zelt......Sharks supporters get fed up they don't go to the games. Don't support nonsense. Instead we hear...

" oh, Province doesn't need the money. We are good thanks. We are the greatest team on the planet and the conveyor belt for all talent . Dont worry, we will be sittingin front of our tvs supporting this gemors".

Start a petition...do something ffs
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average joe wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:17 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:57 am Now the Sharks won't have money for fat Frans Malherbe
Players have to move on some time or the other. As long as you have youngsters coming through WP rugby will never die. Fat Frans should move to Japan permanently, it would do him a world of good. Like we saw at the world cup, he needs the humidity, where his ball sack sticks to his inner thigh when he just looks at a pie.
WP & Boland have the strongest rugby culture in SA. Strongest schoolboy structures. The factory keep producing.
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I know oom that's why I mentioned it. The problem is the administrators is bussy fucking it up so badly that it is becoming undesirable for those youngsters to play for their province.
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average joe wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:17 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:57 am Now the Sharks won't have money for fat Frans Malherbe
Players have to move on some time or the other. As long as you have youngsters coming through WP rugby will never die. Fat Frans should move to Japan permanently, it would do him a world of good. Like we saw at the world cup, he needs the humidity, where his ball sack sticks to his inner thigh when he just looks at a pie.
The same Frans who was instrumental in winning us the RWC.

Lads, you can't judge a book by his cover, I mean that is schoolboy stuff. He produced the goods on the field, end of story.
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Paarl Boishaai Richard Visage keep manufacturing quality fatties like Tenk and Fat Frans.

Sharks need American dollar to buy these, WP keep delivering.
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The Western cape is famous for its ostrich's...
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You people with your fancy 100 million Rand deals, fancy semi finals and fancy Covid diseases can go fuck yourselves!

The real rugby teams are still playing this weekend.

Griquas: 15 James Verity-Amm, 14 Daniel Kasende, 13 Harlon Klaasen, 12 Andre Swarts, 11 Eduan Keyter, 10 Tinus de Beer, 9 Zak Burger (captain), 8 Johan Momsen, 7 Stefan Willemse, 6 Gideon van der Merwe, 5 Cameron Lindsay, 4 Adre Smith, 3 John-Roy Jenkinson, 2 Alandre van Rooyen, 1 Mox Mxoli.
Replacements – from: 16 CJ Conradie, 17 Bandisa Ndlovu, 18 Tijde Visser, 19 Ewan Coetzee, 20 Siba Qoma, 21 Ashlon Davids, 22 George Whitehead, 23 Ederies Arendse, 24 Andrew Beerwinkel, 25 Raegan Oranje, 26 Masixole Banda.

Cheetahs: 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Duncan Saal, 13 Dries Swanepoel, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Rosko Specman, 10 Reinhardt Fortuin, 9 Tian Meyer, 8 Jeandré Rudolph, 7 George Cronje, 6 Andisa Ntsila, 5 Reniel Hugo, 4 Carl Wegner (captain), 3 Conraad van Vuuren, 2 Marnus van der Merwe, 1 Boan Venter,
Replacements: 16 Louis van der Westhuizen, 17 Cameron Dawson, 18 Khutha Mchunu, 19 Victor Sekekete, 20 Chris Massyn, 21 Ruben de Haas, 22 Howard Mnisi, 23 Rhyno Smith.

Referee: Aimee Barrett-Theron
Assistant Referees: Griffin Colby, Paul Mente
TMO: Cwengile Jadezweni

Pumas: 15 Tapiwa Mafura, 14 Luther Obi, 13 Alwayno Visagie, 12 Ali Mgijima, 11 Etienne Taljaard, 10 Devon Williams, 9 Ginter Smuts, 8 Willie Engelbrecht, 7 Phumzile Maqondwana, 6 Daniel Maartens, 5 Darrien Landsberg, 4 Pieter Jansen van Vuren (captain), 3 Ignatius Prinsloo, 2 Simon Westraadt, 1 Morgan Naude.
Replacements: 16 AJ le Roux, 17 Eduan Swart, 18 Heath Backhouse, 19 Francois Kleinhans, 20 Giovan Snyman, 21 Tiaan Botes, 22 Sebastian de Klerk, 23 Liam Hendricks.

Referee: Jaco Peyper
Assistant Referees: Rasta Rasivhenge. AJ Jacobs
TMO: Johan Greef
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Semi and final week later
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.Carling Currie Cup playoff dates amended
By Staff Reporter Time of article published 10h ago


CAPE TOWN - Covid-19 precautionary measures have triggered the adjustment of the Carling Currie Cup playoff dates, with both semi-finals and the final now scheduled for a week later than initially planned. The change is to ensure tournament integrity and allow the participants to manage Covid-19 challenges.

The Carling Currie Cup final has been moved to Saturday, 30 January, with the two semi-finals scheduled for the previous weekend – when the Vodacom Bulls will host the Xerox Lions in Pretoria, and DHL Western Province taking on the Cell C Sharks in Cape Town – with both matches on Saturday, 23 January.


The final two matches of the regular season will play out in Kimberley and Nelspruit this weekend, with all the action, including the playoffs, broadcast live on SuperSport.

“The integrity of the Carling Currie Cup was key in our discussions and the communication and co-operation between the four teams in the semi-finals is appreciated,” said Rassie Erasmus, Director of Rugby.

“During the season teams affected by Covid-19 also had options to move their matches if they could agree on an alternative date – such as the recent clash between the Vodacom Bulls and the Xerox Lions – even though it didn’t always materialise.


“We’ve agreed to move out the dates of the semi-finals and the final by a week to give all the teams the best possible chance to be ready for their matches, bearing in mind we did not have the option to move it out by weeks.

“I would like to thank the semi-finalists for their co-operation in ensuring that we can see the season play out the way it should – in spite of these challenging times – with a champion being crowned in the next few weeks.”

Should a team not be able to participate in the semi-final because of Covid-19 infections, that team will forfeit the match and the opposing team will progress to the final.


If neither team is able to compete, the side with the most log points at the conclusion of the pool stage will progress to the final.

In the event of the final having to be postponed, an alternative date will be agreed between the teams.

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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:17 am Semi and final week later
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.Carling Currie Cup playoff dates amended
By Staff Reporter Time of article published 10h ago


CAPE TOWN - Covid-19 precautionary measures have triggered the adjustment of the Carling Currie Cup playoff dates, with both semi-finals and the final now scheduled for a week later than initially planned. The change is to ensure tournament integrity and allow the participants to manage Covid-19 challenges.

The Carling Currie Cup final has been moved to Saturday, 30 January, with the two semi-finals scheduled for the previous weekend – when the Vodacom Bulls will host the Xerox Lions in Pretoria, and DHL Western Province taking on the Cell C Sharks in Cape Town – with both matches on Saturday, 23 January.


The final two matches of the regular season will play out in Kimberley and Nelspruit this weekend, with all the action, including the playoffs, broadcast live on SuperSport.

“The integrity of the Carling Currie Cup was key in our discussions and the communication and co-operation between the four teams in the semi-finals is appreciated,” said Rassie Erasmus, Director of Rugby.

“During the season teams affected by Covid-19 also had options to move their matches if they could agree on an alternative date – such as the recent clash between the Vodacom Bulls and the Xerox Lions – even though it didn’t always materialise.


“We’ve agreed to move out the dates of the semi-finals and the final by a week to give all the teams the best possible chance to be ready for their matches, bearing in mind we did not have the option to move it out by weeks.

“I would like to thank the semi-finalists for their co-operation in ensuring that we can see the season play out the way it should – in spite of these challenging times – with a champion being crowned in the next few weeks.”

Should a team not be able to participate in the semi-final because of Covid-19 infections, that team will forfeit the match and the opposing team will progress to the final.


If neither team is able to compete, the side with the most log points at the conclusion of the pool stage will progress to the final.

In the event of the final having to be postponed, an alternative date will be agreed between the teams.

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Will this be enough time for the cheque to clear into the Sharks bank account so that they can buy some players?
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Kolisi can lead them in the semi final on Newlands
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:38 am Kolisi can lead them in the semi final on Newlands
Will there be enough time for him to convert to playing hooker?
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It never gets old...

Whenever an individual or entity does well you always get the criticism. And then when you say..." go vok yourselves and sort your own shit out", you are being arrogant .

I wish that the supporters of the other unions could just walk in our shoes for awhile...and learn how it feels to be envied and hated because you refuse to sit on your arse and accept your fate
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Sards wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:01 am It never gets old...

Whenever an individual or entity does well you always get the criticism. And then when you say..." go vok yourselves and sort your own shit out", you are being arrogant .

I wish that the supporters of the other unions could just walk in our shoes for awhile...and learn how it feels to be envied and hated because you refuse to sit on your arse and accept your fate
So are you suggesting that the WP supports storm Boolands much like the trumpanzies stormed Congress?
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Chilli wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:52 am
Sards wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:01 am It never gets old...

Whenever an individual or entity does well you always get the criticism. And then when you say..." go vok yourselves and sort your own shit out", you are being arrogant .

I wish that the supporters of the other unions could just walk in our shoes for awhile...and learn how it feels to be envied and hated because you refuse to sit on your arse and accept your fate
So are you suggesting that the WP supports storm Boolands much like the trumpanzies stormed Congress?
It's not WP supporters, we said no to the Americans, he is talking about Vrystaat supporters.
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Chilli wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:52 am
Sards wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:01 am It never gets old...

Whenever an individual or entity does well you always get the criticism. And then when you say..." go vok yourselves and sort your own shit out", you are being arrogant .

I wish that the supporters of the other unions could just walk in our shoes for awhile...and learn how it feels to be envied and hated because you refuse to sit on your arse and accept your fate
So are you suggesting that the WP supports storm Boolands much like the trumpanzies stormed Congress?
No. I am suggesting that WP supporters are like Ostrich's with their head in the ground...flapping their wings in a show of supposed grace .
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Three weeks for the Guppies to get their act together and isolate
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