2020/21 Carling Currie Cup
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OomStruisbaai
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Congrats Sharks, good luck for the final.
I, ll back you to win it.
I, ll back you to win it.
Sharks defence was outstanding. Especially of the WP lineout. Crazy to think of how many kicks WP turned down.
Scrum also looked good enough, and I thought a few calls went against us unfairly. Malherbe seemed to spend most of the match lying on his gut.
Bosch proved he can still control and close a game, but for the love of god I wish he'd run the ball more. I know it's a tactic, but it was criminal how little ball Nkosi and Fassi saw today.
Hate to say it but we looked much better with Hendrikse at 9 in the second half. I really like Nohambe, but he's got to make the step up, and I think he could do with another few kgs on him.
We were pretty awful, but considering how young the team is, there is a lot of potential to work with.
Scrum also looked good enough, and I thought a few calls went against us unfairly. Malherbe seemed to spend most of the match lying on his gut.
Bosch proved he can still control and close a game, but for the love of god I wish he'd run the ball more. I know it's a tactic, but it was criminal how little ball Nkosi and Fassi saw today.
Hate to say it but we looked much better with Hendrikse at 9 in the second half. I really like Nohambe, but he's got to make the step up, and I think he could do with another few kgs on him.
We were pretty awful, but considering how young the team is, there is a lot of potential to work with.
None of the teams playing today played particularly well.
In both games the Refs were utter shit. Pedantic is not the word for them.
I hope that we see better quality rugby and reffing next week.
Good luck to both teams.
In both games the Refs were utter shit. Pedantic is not the word for them.
I hope that we see better quality rugby and reffing next week.
Good luck to both teams.
Yes I totally agree. I know the players have to take responsibility, but this entire tournament has been blighted by terrible refereeing. Rasta was at his worst today.
Marius is a close second
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FalseBayFC
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Bosch still prone to unforced errors. Nohamba has poor discipline, cost us a couple of penalties. Hendrickse is a better scrumhalf. JJ is a focken monster. Dylan Richardson too.assfly wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:55 pm Sharks defence was outstanding. Especially of the WP lineout. Crazy to think of how many kicks WP turned down.
Scrum also looked good enough, and I thought a few calls went against us unfairly. Malherbe seemed to spend most of the match lying on his gut.
Bosch proved he can still control and close a game, but for the love of god I wish he'd run the ball more. I know it's a tactic, but it was criminal how little ball Nkosi and Fassi saw today.
Hate to say it but we looked much better with Hendrikse at 9 in the second half. I really like Nohambe, but he's got to make the step up, and I think he could do with another few kgs on him.
We were pretty awful, but considering how young the team is, there is a lot of potential to work with.
Bulls will win final because they have a better loose trio and steadier 9/10.
What a weird game.
I don't think I've ever seen a player penalised for not taking a penalty on the spot indicated by the ref before. I know Bosche was taking the piss a bit, but you very rarely see a penalty kick taken from the mark.
And as for Stuart Berry's intervention to deny the Sharks' first try, we all know that Berry isn't known for being completely impartial, but I thought that was a little too blatant.
Actually, I thought that he probably had a better case for denying the second try, but I suppose that it just proves that there are limits, even for Berry.
The reversal of the penalty given for the WP player not rolling away on the basis that he had been prevented from doing so was also weird. If the Sharks player prevents the tackler from rolling away, then surely it's a penalty rather than a scrum? Not that it mattered: Malherbe just collapsed the scrum anyway and earned the penalty regardless.
I felt that the WP were focussed on a game plan that involved playing the game in the Sharks' 22 and the halftime stats of 80% of the game being played in the Sharks' half bore this out (pun intended).
The Sharks' decision making and their unforced error tally was pretty abysmal and I saw the comment that the Sharks didn't deserve to win this, but I disagree: I think the Sharks defended well, even when being pinned in their own 22 by unfathomable refereeing and their own errors and I really didn't see the WP offer any sort of assault that wasn't entirely driven by the penalties.
As for the 'tackle' on Nohambe, I was under the impression that a tackle made on a player who is in the air is regarded as dangerous, whether that player is receiving a kick or not, but I'm open to correction.
I don't think I've ever seen a player penalised for not taking a penalty on the spot indicated by the ref before. I know Bosche was taking the piss a bit, but you very rarely see a penalty kick taken from the mark.
And as for Stuart Berry's intervention to deny the Sharks' first try, we all know that Berry isn't known for being completely impartial, but I thought that was a little too blatant.
Actually, I thought that he probably had a better case for denying the second try, but I suppose that it just proves that there are limits, even for Berry.
The reversal of the penalty given for the WP player not rolling away on the basis that he had been prevented from doing so was also weird. If the Sharks player prevents the tackler from rolling away, then surely it's a penalty rather than a scrum? Not that it mattered: Malherbe just collapsed the scrum anyway and earned the penalty regardless.
I felt that the WP were focussed on a game plan that involved playing the game in the Sharks' 22 and the halftime stats of 80% of the game being played in the Sharks' half bore this out (pun intended).
The Sharks' decision making and their unforced error tally was pretty abysmal and I saw the comment that the Sharks didn't deserve to win this, but I disagree: I think the Sharks defended well, even when being pinned in their own 22 by unfathomable refereeing and their own errors and I really didn't see the WP offer any sort of assault that wasn't entirely driven by the penalties.
As for the 'tackle' on Nohambe, I was under the impression that a tackle made on a player who is in the air is regarded as dangerous, whether that player is receiving a kick or not, but I'm open to correction.
It was a free kick by Bosch, not a penalty. And the result was a WP scrum.
A ref can see an infringement anywhere if he looks hard enough. There were plenty he ignored on the one side and a ton he found on the other side...I have seen this movie before with this prick. Taking the Sharks off attack and penalizing them all the way back to their try line. Fortunately the Sharks defended like Trojans and WP were just too kak to finish off anything. Like I say , when you get a biased ref like Marius, you just need to score more points than the opposition.
Thr match started as a cracker. Marius turned it into a mess.
Thr match started as a cracker. Marius turned it into a mess.
You have to wonder what impact this is going to have on Province players
Surely now they are going to look to escape the ANC faction ruining their Union.
If ever there was an opportunity to get rid of the administrators its now....
Will it happen......NO
Province supporters are dom vokkers. Just like their players
Surely now they are going to look to escape the ANC faction ruining their Union.
If ever there was an opportunity to get rid of the administrators its now....
Will it happen......NO
Province supporters are dom vokkers. Just like their players
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FalseBayFC
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Nohamba incident was not a legal tackle.
The law in question is pretty clear under law 9.17. It states a “player must not tackle an opponent whose feet are off the ground.”
Player was not jumping into a tackle which is considered dangerous play, he was jumping to gather a poor pass.
The law in question is pretty clear under law 9.17. It states a “player must not tackle an opponent whose feet are off the ground.”
Player was not jumping into a tackle which is considered dangerous play, he was jumping to gather a poor pass.
https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/curr ... e-20210123
All jokes and trolling aside. The WP have such a wealth of talent at their disposal. Why is it that they play such a kak brand of rugby? The game yesterday was a true reflection of the standard of rugby throughout the CC played by the WP. To an extent it is effective, until it is neutralised. WP need a new coach, again.
Not that the Sharks were [much] better. Nor the Bulls.
The team that played the best rugby on the weekend was the Lions. I know hat they are not in the final, but then nor are the WP.
If this is the standard of our rugby, no wonder Rassie pulled out of the tour to Aus.
Surely we are better than this?
All jokes and trolling aside. The WP have such a wealth of talent at their disposal. Why is it that they play such a kak brand of rugby? The game yesterday was a true reflection of the standard of rugby throughout the CC played by the WP. To an extent it is effective, until it is neutralised. WP need a new coach, again.
Not that the Sharks were [much] better. Nor the Bulls.
The team that played the best rugby on the weekend was the Lions. I know hat they are not in the final, but then nor are the WP.
If this is the standard of our rugby, no wonder Rassie pulled out of the tour to Aus.
Surely we are better than this?
I hope they are not pulling Kolisi into the Sharks.Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:49 am https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/curr ... e-20210123
All jokes and trolling aside. The WP have such a wealth of talent at their disposal. Why is it that they play such a kak brand of rugby? The game yesterday was a true reflection of the standard of rugby throughout the CC played by the WP. To an extent it is effective, until it is neutralised. WP need a new coach, again.
Not that the Sharks were [much] better. Nor the Bulls.
The team that played the best rugby on the weekend was the Lions. I know hat they are not in the final, but then nor are the WP.
If this is the standard of our rugby, no wonder Rassie pulled out of the tour to Aus.
Surely we are better than this?
I saw him once the entire match. Jumping onto a ruck.
Other than that he is nowhere near the quality it is believed he is...
He is a perfect fit for WP tho. ..... ANC management. BLM captain. And Carling Black label Sponsor....
I get so angry with WP because they are a complete vokop of a union because of administration yet the sheep do vokol about it
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FalseBayFC
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WP's attempt to score from rolling mauls were hilariously bad. As was a lot of their forward play. They seem to have a leadership problem. With no Kitshoff and PSDT they looked rudderless.
Willemse should be given a chance at inside centre and if he fails should be dumped. Swiel still not convincing.
All of our teams lack experience. Cornal Hendricks, Morne, Willem Alberts, Francois Steyn etc really showed there worth. Our teams need to recruit wisely from the diaspora. With Brexit and Covid it looks to be getting easier to do this. I predict the Sharks with their new investors will follow the Bulls example soon.
Willemse should be given a chance at inside centre and if he fails should be dumped. Swiel still not convincing.
All of our teams lack experience. Cornal Hendricks, Morne, Willem Alberts, Francois Steyn etc really showed there worth. Our teams need to recruit wisely from the diaspora. With Brexit and Covid it looks to be getting easier to do this. I predict the Sharks with their new investors will follow the Bulls example soon.
That doesn't really change anything.
It might have changed the game if WP had kicked the points rather than putting all their eggs in a rolling maul try as the only times the Sharks got into the WP half was from the kickoff and they looked quite dangerous when they did.
The pattern of the game was this:
Scrum
Penalty to WP for the collapse
Kick to touch
Rolling Maul
Rinse and repeat.
Hardly a recipe for an entertaining game and to blame the Sharks for it seems a little unjustified.
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OomStruisbaai
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Dobson have to go.
And replace him with?
Sards. The truth is that Kolisi will go where his "benefactors" place him. They have invested over R100 Million in the Sharks, there is no chance that their "star" player will be playing in their team.Sards wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:05 amI hope they are not pulling Kolisi into the Sharks.Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:49 am https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/curr ... e-20210123
All jokes and trolling aside. The WP have such a wealth of talent at their disposal. Why is it that they play such a kak brand of rugby? The game yesterday was a true reflection of the standard of rugby throughout the CC played by the WP. To an extent it is effective, until it is neutralised. WP need a new coach, again.
Not that the Sharks were [much] better. Nor the Bulls.
The team that played the best rugby on the weekend was the Lions. I know hat they are not in the final, but then nor are the WP.
If this is the standard of our rugby, no wonder Rassie pulled out of the tour to Aus.
Surely we are better than this?
I saw him once the entire match. Jumping onto a ruck.
Other than that he is nowhere near the quality it is believed he is...
He is a perfect fit for WP tho. ..... ANC management. BLM captain. And Carling Black label Sponsor....
I get so angry with WP because they are a complete vokop of a union because of administration yet the sheep do vokol about it
Embrace him!
The thing is, it has been their game plan all season. And to an extent it has worked. The fanatical WP supporters have been telling us all season long that it is Rassies's WC Winning game plan that they are just following. Winning ugly is better than losing. Well sadly Dobson ain't Rassie, they game plan has been very poorly executed against pretty average team to grind out wins and the win % hasn't been that great.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:19 am WP's attempt to score from rolling mauls were hilariously bad. As was a lot of their forward play. They seem to have a leadership problem. With no Kitshoff and PSDT they looked rudderless.
Willemse should be given a chance at inside centre and if he fails should be dumped. Swiel still not convincing.
All of our teams lack experience. Cornal Hendricks, Morne, Willem Alberts, Francois Steyn etc really showed there worth. Our teams need to recruit wisely from the diaspora. With Brexit and Covid it looks to be getting easier to do this. I predict the Sharks with their new investors will follow the Bulls example soon.
The WP, like most other Unions, need a complete clean out of staff and players.
I'll just leave this here.handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:44 amOom, if you are not a WP fan, you hate WP. We are nobody's second team, we are THE team. I think it's the number of CC titles that we have won.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:42 amSharks were running away twice from WP. WP ended second. Cheetahs (your team) bliksemed the Sharks in Bloem, The rugby gods will take this into account. You hate WP.