2020/21 Carling Currie Cup

[handyman]

They are not used to winning?

Could be. I think it's a deeper feeling of inadequacy. Must be tough living your life like that.

Sucks to be you ne

Sards, listen boet, I don't want you to have a chip on your shoulder about WP/Stormers. Let it go boet.

You're in the finals, this is a time to enjoy your rugby, not fret about how far behind on the list of CC Champions you are.

[Sards]

How many young black players were develope in KZN?

Nohamba, Jordan and Jaden Hendrickse, Fez Mbatha, Phepdi Buthelezi , Celempilo Gumede, Caleb Dingaan ball played junior boks last couple of years.

How many of them are in your match day 23 for the final?

The Bulls and WP have developed by far the most PoCs via their youth structures the last decade.

The Sharks poach the senior lot from the Cheetahs, Kings, Pumas, Griquas and the WP old age homers. They dont have a team in the Varsity Cup which is nowadays the fabric of rugby players.

Thats why they need those investments.

University rugby didn't help Province. You lot need to move out of amateur rugby

[Sards]

I strongly believe we will win this weekend. if we don't the cherry on the cake was humbling WP

[handyman]

I strongly believe we will win this weekend. if we don't the cherry on the cake was humbling WP

I hate to be the one pointing this out, but look, again you are posting about WP. You are playing the Bulls in the CC final, yet WP is all you can think about.

Let it go, boet.

[Sards]

I strongly believe we will win this weekend. if we don't the cherry on the cake was humbling WP

I hate to be the one pointing this out, but look, again you are posting about WP. You are playing the Bulls in the CC final, yet WP is all you can think about.

Let it go, boet.

Do you feel that knife in your back.......I am enjoying it , again , year after year ....suck it up buttercup

Maybe next year you will learn

[assfly]

I saw a stat somewhere today that the Sharks have the best transformation record this year, and the Bulls amongst the worst.

Strange the JW and the team seem more interested in luring older white players back to Pretoria than investing in developing young black players from the local environs.

Link if you will?

Found it eventually

[Sards]

I saw a stat somewhere today that the Sharks have the best transformation record this year, and the Bulls amongst the worst.

Strange the JW and the team seem more interested in luring older white players back to Pretoria than investing in developing young black players from the local environs.

Link if you will?

Found it eventually

Man you can see it in the run on team each week....its not rocket science...and everyone there on merit....

[Sards]

Oh wow....the Bulls really have a poor record.

[OomStruisbaai]

I saw a stat somewhere today that the Sharks have the best transformation record this year, and the Bulls amongst the worst.

Strange the JW and the team seem more interested in luring older white players back to Pretoria than investing in developing young black players from the local environs.

Link if you will?

Found it eventually

% is suppose to add up to 100? Is the difference Mexicans%

[Sards]

[assfly]

% is suppose to add up to 100? Is the difference Mexicans%

Ja boet soutie percentage adds up to 100 but Paarl percentage adds up to 200

[OomStruisbaai]

% is suppose to add up to 100? Is the difference Mexicans%

Ja boet soutie percentage adds up to 100 but Paarl percentage adds up to 200

Keo is a soutpiel. He misuse figures. Vokken stupid idiot.Coloures mean vokkol to him and you believe his kak. Its where Sards stats come from.

[assfly]

Keo is a soutpiel. He misuse figures. Vokken stupid idiot.Coloures mean vokkol to him and you believe his kak. Its where Sards stats come from.

Ja oom ja Paarl ja vokken ja

[Sards]

Link if you will?

Found it eventually

% is suppose to add up to 100? Is the difference Mexicans%

No...soutpielle

SNAP Assfly

[Rinkals]

I don't doubt it.

My cousin's stepson's best mate was the brother of B.J. Botha who was getting a reputation as very good scrummager as prop. As they went down to scrum against the Bulls, Victor Matfield punched him and broke his jaw, putting him out for a few weeks and effectively ending his Springbok career.

I think he ended up playing for Munster.

[FalseBayFC]

How many young black players were develope in KZN?

Nohamba, Jordan and Jaden Hendrickse, Fez Mbatha, Phepdi Buthelezi , Celempilo Gumede, Caleb Dingaan ball played junior boks last couple of years.

How many of them are in your match day 23 for the final?

The Bulls and WP have developed by far the most PoCs via their youth structures the last decade.

The Sharks poach the senior lot from the Cheetahs, Kings, Pumas, Griquas and the WP old age homers. They dont have a team in the Varsity Cup which is nowadays the fabric of rugby players.

Thats why they need those investments.

Fez Mbatha - Maritzburg College
Sanele Nohamba - DHS
Jaden Hendrickse - Glenwood

We're also saving players careers by rescuing them from corrupt bankrupt unions like EP and WP. Not even joking, Western Province is not far off Kings level of corruption and maladministration.
Maybe if UKZN had someone like Jurie Roux, they could illegally fund their rugby program to the tune of R38mill. Thats a lot of scholarships.

[Sards]

I don't doubt it.

My cousin's stepson's best mate was the brother of B.J. Botha who was getting a reputation as very good scrummager as prop. As they went down to scrum against the Bulls, Victor Matfield punched him and broke his jaw, putting him out for a few weeks and effectively ending his Springbok career.

I think he ended up playing for Munster.

Not much difference in arm sizes.

Just height and density in the head...

[Sards]

Nohamba, Jordan and Jaden Hendrickse, Fez Mbatha, Phepdi Buthelezi , Celempilo Gumede, Caleb Dingaan ball played junior boks last couple of years.

How many of them are in your match day 23 for the final?

The Bulls and WP have developed by far the most PoCs via their youth structures the last decade.

The Sharks poach the senior lot from the Cheetahs, Kings, Pumas, Griquas and the WP old age homers. They dont have a team in the Varsity Cup which is nowadays the fabric of rugby players.

Thats why they need those investments.

Maybe if UKZN had someone like Jurie Roux, they could illegally fund their rugby program to the tune of R38mill. Thats a lot of scholarships.

Ouboet is going on about varsity because its the only ray of hope that he has atm.....all other structures have been a major dissapointment.

Its like us saying....under 11 schools rugby is the pinnacle of success....if we were winning under 11s rugby .....

[Rinkals]

I don't doubt it.

My cousin's stepson's best mate was the brother of B.J. Botha who was getting a reputation as very good scrummager as prop. As they went down to scrum against the Bulls, Victor Matfield punched him and broke his jaw, putting him out for a few weeks and effectively ending his Springbok career.

I think he ended up playing for Munster.

Not much difference in arm sizes.

Just height and density in the head...

Yes.

Also not a prop, so he won't be bound in and unable to avoid it if he gets punched from the second row.

But he'd better watch out if he finds himself at the bottom of a ruck or a maul.

[TheNatalShark]

Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

[Sards]

Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

The Sharks....at the forefront of proffessional rugby in South Africa......

[FalseBayFC]

Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

The Sharks....at the forefront of proffessional rugby in South Africa......

Western Province has 3 Natal schooled players of colour in their Currie Cup squad as well as plenty of Boland, Border and Eastern Cape kids. Paarl Gym, Boys, Pail Roos and Maties are not actually part of the Western Province sporting area. Should be Boland.

[Rinkals]

Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

I agree.

Our backline is a joy to watch in action.

Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday.

Hopefully that will be rectified tomorrow.

[OomStruisbaai]

Chilli getting swallowed by the Guppies.

Saturday lag hy weer.

[handyman]

Ok look, the saarks chatter on here is mostly : WP is kak, WP is bankkrot, WP this, WP that.

Time for some proper rugby talk.

Key match ups :

Gqoboka vs Du Toit : Advantage Bulls if the game is loose, but finals rarely are, scrumming more important, so advantage saarks.
Van Staden vs Richardson : Advantage Bulls by a long, LONG way. To me, the clincher.
Vermeulen vs Notshe : Advantage Bulls. Notshe is a bigger asset when the game is loose, possibly of the bench as well. Vermeulen is a beast and will lift for the final.
Steyn vs Bosch : Even. Steyn is the old hand and used to pressure games, Bosch longer with kicks out of hand and to touch. If I had to choose, it would be Steyn.
White vs Everitt : Advantage Bulls. Jake's been there, done it, got the t-shirt and sold it to Everitt. White has won the RWC, Everitt has resorted to dodgy tactics to avoid WP to get to the final.

[Sards]

Ok look, the saarks chatter on here is mostly : WP is kak, WP is bankkrot, WP this, WP that.

Time for some proper rugby talk.

Key match ups :

Gqoboka vs Du Toit : Advantage Bulls if the game is loose, but finals rarely are, scrumming more important, so advantage saarks.
Van Staden vs Richardson : Advantage Bulls by a long, LONG way. To me, the clincher.
Vermeulen vs Notshe : Advantage Bulls. Notshe is a bigger asset when the game is loose, possibly of the bench as well. Vermeulen is a beast and will lift for the final.
Steyn vs Bosch : Even. Steyn is the old hand and used to pressure games, Bosch longer with kicks out of hand and to touch. If I had to choose, it would be Steyn.
White vs Everitt : Advantage Bulls. Jake's been there, done it, got the t-shirt and sold it to Everitt. White has won the RWC, Everitt has resorted to dodgy tactics to avoid WP to get to the final.

Thanks for that...we will bear that in mind

[Sards]

Roc nation baby

We are black,
We are white,

We are dynamite

[handyman]

Ok look, the saarks chatter on here is mostly : WP is kak, WP is bankkrot, WP this, WP that.

Time for some proper rugby talk.

Key match ups :

Gqoboka vs Du Toit : Advantage Bulls if the game is loose, but finals rarely are, scrumming more important, so advantage saarks.
Van Staden vs Richardson : Advantage Bulls by a long, LONG way. To me, the clincher.
Vermeulen vs Notshe : Advantage Bulls. Notshe is a bigger asset when the game is loose, possibly of the bench as well. Vermeulen is a beast and will lift for the final.
Steyn vs Bosch : Even. Steyn is the old hand and used to pressure games, Bosch longer with kicks out of hand and to touch. If I had to choose, it would be Steyn.
White vs Everitt : Advantage Bulls. Jake's been there, done it, got the t-shirt and sold it to Everitt. White has won the RWC, Everitt has resorted to dodgy tactics to avoid WP to get to the final.

Thanks for that...we will bear that in mind

Pleasure tjom. I help where I can

[Sards]

Good luck Bulls supporter

[Chilli]

Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

I agree.

Our backline is a joy to watch in action.

Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday.

Hopefully that will be rectified tomorrow.

Yes. It is a joy to watch
Nohamba passes (poorly) to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.
Or, a bit more joyous to watch;
Che Guevara pass to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.

[handyman]

Jake would have seen in the WP vs saarks semi how the saarks are able to drag a team down to their level. He will have a plan to counter this.

[Rinkals]

Ok look, the saarks chatter on here is mostly : WP is kak, WP is bankkrot, WP this, WP that.

Time for some proper rugby talk.

Key match ups :

Gqoboka vs Du Toit : Advantage Bulls if the game is loose, but finals rarely are, scrumming more important, so advantage saarks.
Van Staden vs Richardson : Advantage Bulls by a long, LONG way. To me, the clincher.
Vermeulen vs Notshe : Advantage Bulls. Notshe is a bigger asset when the game is loose, possibly of the bench as well. Vermeulen is a beast and will lift for the final.
Steyn vs Bosch : Even. Steyn is the old hand and used to pressure games, Bosch longer with kicks out of hand and to touch. If I had to choose, it would be Steyn.
White vs Everitt : Advantage Bulls. Jake's been there, done it, got the t-shirt and sold it to Everitt. White has won the RWC, Everitt has resorted to dodgy tactics to avoid WP to get to the final.

WP?

I didn't realise that they were still in the competition.

[Rinkals]

Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

I agree.

Our backline is a joy to watch in action.

Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday.

Hopefully that will be rectified tomorrow.

Yes. It is a joy to watch
Nohamba passes (poorly) to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.
Or, a bit more joyous to watch;
Che Guevara pass to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.

If you read what I posted, I said "Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday." I thought the implication was clear, but apparently not.

If you are seriously suggesting that Nkosi, Mapimpi, Fassi and Mvovu are not worth watching, then you are entitled to your opinion, but I can't say I agree.

[Sandstorm]

I think there's still a tendency to think of KZN as not being a proper rugby playing province.

Keep selecting Bosch at 10 and you’ll be the next Soccer Province.

[Rinkals]

Bitterness over your defeat is very unbecoming.

However, I suspect that the fact that it was at the hands of a province which is seen as historically weak which causes a lot of the rancour.

I'm not a big fan of the kicking game, as I thought I'd made clear.

[Sards]

Vok yes I love the kicking game when it's used as a tactic against a team that only practices scrumming and hitting tackle bags at training sessions.
I said before that game. Get on par in the scrums and WP have nothing else. There's a weekly Currie Cup roundup with Dalton....as a WP supporter I don't suggest you watch it. It really is tough believing you are so amazing and it just keeps on getting worse. Dalton and the crew nailed WP....got them dead to terms....

Now don't go watch it now.

So much talk of Jake White...Everett has done a fantastic job. Kept the Sharks culture alive. Got the team playing Sharks rugby and Rassie's Springbok rugby. And he is in thr finals. Full marks to him.

[OomStruisbaai]

The rugby gods wants the Bulls to win. They,ll do less kicking.

[OomStruisbaai]

Bitterness over your defeat is very unbecoming.

However, I suspect that the fact that it was at the hands of a province which is seen as historically weak which causes a lot of the rancour.

I'm not a big fan of the kicking game, as I thought I'd made clear.

Welcome to the rugby thread. Switch to the Afrikaans commentators we'll appreciate your thoughts.

[assfly]

Match day. Good luck to both sides, but I think the Bulls will have a bit more pedigree to see them through comfortably.

Let's hope it's a good match, it's the last one in SA for a while.

[Chilli]

I agree.

Our backline is a joy to watch in action.

Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday.

Hopefully that will be rectified tomorrow.

Yes. It is a joy to watch
Nohamba passes (poorly) to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.
Or, a bit more joyous to watch;
Che Guevara pass to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.

If you read what I posted, I said "Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday." I thought the implication was clear, but apparently not.

If you are seriously suggesting that Nkosi, Mapimpi, Fassi and Mvovu are not worth watching, then you are entitled to your opinion, but I can't say I agree.

Uhm........have you even watched the Sharks this season?
Ball goes to Bosch. Bosch kicks it away.

Mampimpi has been scintillating for the Shsrks during the CC. He must be their top try scorer. Mvovo has been a joy to watch. I can't wait to see them both score tries at will after latching onto passes Bosch.