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I addressed the haggis on Friday night (I’m on call tonight). My boys (16 and 13) didn’t understand a word of it. Sigh. Still, I probably wouldn’t have at their age either.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
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Did our own Burns night yesterday. Oldest son volunteered to address the haggis for the second year running - he makes me proud. Had loads of fun blasting all sorts of Scottish stuff via Spotify. Although we collectively drew the line at Runrig.
Love me some Runrigclydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:33 pmDid our own Burns night yesterday. Oldest son volunteered to address the haggis for the second year running - he makes me proud. Had loads of fun blasting all sorts of Scottish stuff via Spotify. Although we collectively drew the line at Runrig.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
Take the Floor was still on when we started ours on Saturday. Proper heedrum hodrum.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:33 pmDid our own Burns night yesterday. Oldest son volunteered to address the haggis for the second year running - he makes me proud. Had loads of fun blasting all sorts of Scottish stuff via Spotify. Although we collectively drew the line at Runrig.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Sounds like a good night.
I have a deep dislike for Burns night probably stemming from being forced to learn and present poetry at school. No interest in it other than helping the kids with their school work.
However, that being said, happy Burns night to those who celebrate it.
Take the Floor reminds me of when I left school and was playing for the Colts, the then president of our club was an old "Gentleman Farmer" type who had that on the car radio when he drove some of us back from away games. Lovely old guy.
I had a McSween haggis on Saturday night, I'm the only meat eater in the house, so it goes a long way.
Hope everyone has a ball tonight.
Oh crap, I've just had a memory flash back, our club used to do a Burns supper. I attended, in fact I attended like fuck and got home around seven in the morning. I had a job interview at 9.
I was so drunk that I thought it was a good idea to cycle there, still in the clothes I'd been wearing the night before. On the plus side I didn't have to go on any roads to get to the interview, on the negative side I fell off the bike at least twice onto a gravel path and smacked my face off the ground.
So I turned up to the interview, about an hour late, drunk, stinking of booze and bleeding from my forehead.
I didn't get the job.
One of my friends hosts one each year for about 12-14 people. That group of friends is all quite musical / artistic in some way so there's lots of wee turns, bit of a song, bit of fiddle music, poems, etc. All between friends so it's really good. We spent saturday night watching a few videos of past years while we were on the call, so it was really good.Big D wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:12 pmSounds like a good night.
I have a deep dislike for Burns night probably stemming from being forced to learn and present poetry at school. No interest in it other than helping the kids with their school work.
However, that being said, happy Burns night to those who celebrate it.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I'm a vegetarian these days and the only time I miss meat is Burns night. Veggie haggis just ain't the same.
Have a good one folks!
Have a good one folks!
I could tell you a story involving about 25 first-year doctors and a Burns Supper in the doctors’ residence building in the middle of the old Royal Infirmary site in Edinburgh. But I’m not going to in case I bring the NHS into disrepute. (To be fair, it was almost a quarter century ago!)Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:23 pm
Take the Floor reminds me of when I left school and was playing for the Colts, the then president of our club was an old "Gentleman Farmer" type who had that on the car radio when he drove some of us back from away games. Lovely old guy.
I had a McSween haggis on Saturday night, I'm the only meat eater in the house, so it goes a long way.
Hope everyone has a ball tonight.
Oh crap, I've just had a memory flash back, our club used to do a Burns supper. I attended, in fact I attended like fuck and got home around seven in the morning. I had a job interview at 9.
I was so drunk that I thought it was a good idea to cycle there, still in the clothes I'd been wearing the night before. On the plus side I didn't have to go on any roads to get to the interview, on the negative side I fell off the bike at least twice onto a gravel path and smacked my face off the ground.
So I turned up to the interview, about an hour late, drunk, stinking of booze and bleeding from my forehead.
I didn't get the job.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
Those were the daysTichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:23 pm
Take the Floor reminds me of when I left school and was playing for the Colts, the then president of our club was an old "Gentleman Farmer" type who had that on the car radio when he drove some of us back from away games. Lovely old guy.
I had a McSween haggis on Saturday night, I'm the only meat eater in the house, so it goes a long way.
Hope everyone has a ball tonight.
Oh crap, I've just had a memory flash back, our club used to do a Burns supper. I attended, in fact I attended like fuck and got home around seven in the morning. I had a job interview at 9.
I was so drunk that I thought it was a good idea to cycle there, still in the clothes I'd been wearing the night before. On the plus side I didn't have to go on any roads to get to the interview, on the negative side I fell off the bike at least twice onto a gravel path and smacked my face off the ground.
So I turned up to the interview, about an hour late, drunk, stinking of booze and bleeding from my forehead.
I didn't get the job.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:33 pmI could tell you a story involving about 25 first-year doctors and a Burns Supper in the doctors’ residence building in the middle of the old Royal Infirmary site in Edinburgh. But I’m not going to in case I bring the NHS into disrepute. (To be fair, it was almost a quarter century ago!)Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:23 pm
Take the Floor reminds me of when I left school and was playing for the Colts, the then president of our club was an old "Gentleman Farmer" type who had that on the car radio when he drove some of us back from away games. Lovely old guy.
I had a McSween haggis on Saturday night, I'm the only meat eater in the house, so it goes a long way.
Hope everyone has a ball tonight.
Oh crap, I've just had a memory flash back, our club used to do a Burns supper. I attended, in fact I attended like fuck and got home around seven in the morning. I had a job interview at 9.
I was so drunk that I thought it was a good idea to cycle there, still in the clothes I'd been wearing the night before. On the plus side I didn't have to go on any roads to get to the interview, on the negative side I fell off the bike at least twice onto a gravel path and smacked my face off the ground.
So I turned up to the interview, about an hour late, drunk, stinking of booze and bleeding from my forehead.
I didn't get the job.
Aye, the parties that the Edinburgh medics and veterinary students had were the stuff of legend - from the sounds of it the best bet was to put tarpaulins over everything and let them get on with it.
I think everyone who went to university has stories of medics being absolutely fucking lunatics.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:53 amYr Alban wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:33 pmI could tell you a story involving about 25 first-year doctors and a Burns Supper in the doctors’ residence building in the middle of the old Royal Infirmary site in Edinburgh. But I’m not going to in case I bring the NHS into disrepute. (To be fair, it was almost a quarter century ago!)Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:23 pm
Take the Floor reminds me of when I left school and was playing for the Colts, the then president of our club was an old "Gentleman Farmer" type who had that on the car radio when he drove some of us back from away games. Lovely old guy.
I had a McSween haggis on Saturday night, I'm the only meat eater in the house, so it goes a long way.
Hope everyone has a ball tonight.
Oh crap, I've just had a memory flash back, our club used to do a Burns supper. I attended, in fact I attended like fuck and got home around seven in the morning. I had a job interview at 9.
I was so drunk that I thought it was a good idea to cycle there, still in the clothes I'd been wearing the night before. On the plus side I didn't have to go on any roads to get to the interview, on the negative side I fell off the bike at least twice onto a gravel path and smacked my face off the ground.
So I turned up to the interview, about an hour late, drunk, stinking of booze and bleeding from my forehead.
I didn't get the job.
Aye, the parties that the Edinburgh medics and veterinary students had were the stuff of legend - from the sounds of it the best bet was to put tarpaulins over everything and let them get on with it.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Sounds lovely. Anything that brings people together now is a good thing. As I said, just scared from my school days.Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:25 pmOne of my friends hosts one each year for about 12-14 people. That group of friends is all quite musical / artistic in some way so there's lots of wee turns, bit of a song, bit of fiddle music, poems, etc. All between friends so it's really good. We spent saturday night watching a few videos of past years while we were on the call, so it was really good.Big D wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:12 pmSounds like a good night.
I have a deep dislike for Burns night probably stemming from being forced to learn and present poetry at school. No interest in it other than helping the kids with their school work.
However, that being said, happy Burns night to those who celebrate it.
PRO14 FIXTURES FOR SCOTTISH TEAMS
February
Fri 12: Dragons v Edinburgh (7.35pm)
Sat 13: Glasgow v Benetton (2.30pm)
Fri 19: Glasgow v Ulster (7.35pm)
Sat 20: Edinburgh v Munster (7.35pm)
Sat 27: Edinburgh v Scarlets (noon)
Sun 28: Leinster v Glasgow (5.30pm)
March
Sat 6: Zebre v Glasgow (1pm British time)
Sun 7: Edinburgh v Benetton (3.15pm)
Sat 13: Connacht v Edinburgh (7.35pm)
Fri 12: Glasgow v Ospreys (8pm)
Sun 21: Dragons v Glasgow (3pm)
Mon 22: Cardiff v Edinburgh (8pm)
February
Fri 12: Dragons v Edinburgh (7.35pm)
Sat 13: Glasgow v Benetton (2.30pm)
Fri 19: Glasgow v Ulster (7.35pm)
Sat 20: Edinburgh v Munster (7.35pm)
Sat 27: Edinburgh v Scarlets (noon)
Sun 28: Leinster v Glasgow (5.30pm)
March
Sat 6: Zebre v Glasgow (1pm British time)
Sun 7: Edinburgh v Benetton (3.15pm)
Sat 13: Connacht v Edinburgh (7.35pm)
Fri 12: Glasgow v Ospreys (8pm)
Sun 21: Dragons v Glasgow (3pm)
Mon 22: Cardiff v Edinburgh (8pm)
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Just saw that, pretty surprising to be honest. I think almost everyone was resigned to him leaving.
Good business? Not sure, presumably he’s expensive and he hasn’t been all that this year. His dominance in the position is also a big part of the stunted growth we’ve seen in Bradbury IMO. It looks increasingly likely to me that one or more Edinburgh back rows will be off down the M8 though, there are too many to keep happy as it is, and the young players breaking through are too good to not develop.
Yeah, was surprised. Maybe the last year has made him think he’s better off where he is for another year.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:15 pmJust saw that, pretty surprising to be honest. I think almost everyone was resigned to him leaving.
Good business? Not sure, presumably he’s expensive and he hasn’t been all that this year. His dominance in the position is also a big part of the stunted growth we’ve seen in Bradbury IMO. It looks increasingly likely to me that one or more Edinburgh back rows will be off down the M8 though, there are too many to keep happy as it is, and the young players breaking through are too good to not develop.
If you said I could only keep one of Crosbie or Bradbury, I’d have Crosbie thanks.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
I suspect Crosbie is the one most likely to go and maybe Haining too. There is plenty of cover on the flanks and less so at 8.Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:47 pmYeah, was surprised. Maybe the last year has made him think he’s better off where he is for another year.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:15 pmJust saw that, pretty surprising to be honest. I think almost everyone was resigned to him leaving.
Good business? Not sure, presumably he’s expensive and he hasn’t been all that this year. His dominance in the position is also a big part of the stunted growth we’ve seen in Bradbury IMO. It looks increasingly likely to me that one or more Edinburgh back rows will be off down the M8 though, there are too many to keep happy as it is, and the young players breaking through are too good to not develop.
If you said I could only keep one of Crosbie or Bradbury, I’d have Crosbie thanks.
I worry that Edinburgh are in danger of trying the same thing and expecting different results. Sinking a lot (presumably) of money into the same players, adding Harlequins rejects and keeping the same coaching staff doesn't really fill the heart with hope.
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Ally Miller and Kunavula must also be on the maybe going to Glasgow pile?Big D wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:53 pmI suspect Crosbie is the one most likely to go and maybe Haining too. There is plenty of cover on the flanks and less so at 8.Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:47 pmYeah, was surprised. Maybe the last year has made him think he’s better off where he is for another year.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:15 pm
Just saw that, pretty surprising to be honest. I think almost everyone was resigned to him leaving.
Good business? Not sure, presumably he’s expensive and he hasn’t been all that this year. His dominance in the position is also a big part of the stunted growth we’ve seen in Bradbury IMO. It looks increasingly likely to me that one or more Edinburgh back rows will be off down the M8 though, there are too many to keep happy as it is, and the young players breaking through are too good to not develop.
If you said I could only keep one of Crosbie or Bradbury, I’d have Crosbie thanks.
I worry that Edinburgh are in danger of trying the same thing and expecting different results. Sinking a lot (presumably) of money into the same players, adding Harlequins rejects and keeping the same coaching staff doesn't really fill the heart with hope.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:15 pmJust saw that, pretty surprising to be honest. I think almost everyone was resigned to him leaving.
Good business? Not sure, presumably he’s expensive and he hasn’t been all that this year. His dominance in the position is also a big part of the stunted growth we’ve seen in Bradbury IMO. It looks increasingly likely to me that one or more Edinburgh back rows will be off down the M8 though, there are too many to keep happy as it is, and the young players breaking through are too good to not develop.
I'm not so sure tbh, there are around 12 weeks of the season that Watson and Ritchie won't be available, given international duty plus SRU-regulated rest periods. Big Bill will be away during the November tests, four weeks minimum.
Factor in average time off for any injuries etc and we are looking at having, by my estimate, a minimum of thirty to thirty five available league game slots for the other players to fill.
Just looking at past seasons, Watson and Ritchie played about half the number of league games Edinburgh had on a good run, Big Bill played around two thirds.
If Edinburgh are to compete seriously we have to keep all the guys like Bradbury and Crosbie plus the up and coming ones like Boyle and Darge, you have to replace like for as near as dammit like.
The question isn't necessarily about the game time for some, it will be what games they are playing and whether they are happy being trotted out for Dragons away rather than Toulouse/Racing etc at home etc.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:04 pmKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:15 pmJust saw that, pretty surprising to be honest. I think almost everyone was resigned to him leaving.
Good business? Not sure, presumably he’s expensive and he hasn’t been all that this year. His dominance in the position is also a big part of the stunted growth we’ve seen in Bradbury IMO. It looks increasingly likely to me that one or more Edinburgh back rows will be off down the M8 though, there are too many to keep happy as it is, and the young players breaking through are too good to not develop.
I'm not so sure tbh, there are around 12 weeks of the season that Watson and Ritchie won't be available, given international duty plus SRU-regulated rest periods. Big Bill will be away during the November tests, four weeks minimum.
Factor in average time off for any injuries etc and we are looking at having, by my estimate, a minimum of thirty to thirty five available league game slots for the other players to fill.
Just looking at past seasons, Watson and Ritchie played about half the number of league games Edinburgh had on a good run, Big Bill played around two thirds.
If Edinburgh are to compete seriously we have to keep all the guys like Bradbury and Crosbie plus the up and coming ones like Boyle and Darge, you have to replace like for as near as dammit like.
Crosbie and Bradbury, more so Crosbie at the moment, are capable of starting big games for other clubs. Wont be popular but for me Crosbie would instantly be Glasgow's best flanker.
As an Edinburgh fan I'd say I wouldn't want to go. As a Scotland fan I'd say Crosbie needs to playing as much of the big games as possible, Miller needs regular game time and I don't care about Kunavula :)KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:59 pmAlly Miller and Kunavula must also be on the maybe going to Glasgow pile?Big D wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:53 pmI suspect Crosbie is the one most likely to go and maybe Haining too. There is plenty of cover on the flanks and less so at 8.
I worry that Edinburgh are in danger of trying the same thing and expecting different results. Sinking a lot (presumably) of money into the same players, adding Harlequins rejects and keeping the same coaching staff doesn't really fill the heart with hope.
Big D wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:20 pmThe question isn't necessarily about the game time for some, it will be what games they are playing and whether they are happy being trotted out for Dragons away rather than Toulouse/Racing etc at home etc.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:04 pmKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:15 pm
Just saw that, pretty surprising to be honest. I think almost everyone was resigned to him leaving.
Good business? Not sure, presumably he’s expensive and he hasn’t been all that this year. His dominance in the position is also a big part of the stunted growth we’ve seen in Bradbury IMO. It looks increasingly likely to me that one or more Edinburgh back rows will be off down the M8 though, there are too many to keep happy as it is, and the young players breaking through are too good to not develop.
I'm not so sure tbh, there are around 12 weeks of the season that Watson and Ritchie won't be available, given international duty plus SRU-regulated rest periods. Big Bill will be away during the November tests, four weeks minimum.
Factor in average time off for any injuries etc and we are looking at having, by my estimate, a minimum of thirty to thirty five available league game slots for the other players to fill.
Just looking at past seasons, Watson and Ritchie played about half the number of league games Edinburgh had on a good run, Big Bill played around two thirds.
If Edinburgh are to compete seriously we have to keep all the guys like Bradbury and Crosbie plus the up and coming ones like Boyle and Darge, you have to replace like for as near as dammit like.
Crosbie and Bradbury, more so Crosbie at the moment, are capable of starting big games for other clubs. Wont be popular but for me Crosbie would instantly be Glasgow's best flanker.
We'll be playing the Sharks, Bulls, Lions and Stormers as well as the four Irish and Welsh sides. There won't be many easy games, not that there ever are for Edinburgh, I want us to field a formidable team whoever we have playing, Leinster and Munster manage it, that is what we should be aiming for.
If Crosbie wants to start for Edinburgh at the business end of the season then he has to earn it, but we have to get to that business end by being consistently good for every match.
I don't disagree that Edinburgh should be aiming for that, I am just saying we should be expecting the players (or the SRU) to feel the same way. Particularly if it ends up being that 3 or 4 of Scotland's best flankers are at the one club.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:28 pmBig D wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:20 pmThe question isn't necessarily about the game time for some, it will be what games they are playing and whether they are happy being trotted out for Dragons away rather than Toulouse/Racing etc at home etc.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:04 pm
I'm not so sure tbh, there are around 12 weeks of the season that Watson and Ritchie won't be available, given international duty plus SRU-regulated rest periods. Big Bill will be away during the November tests, four weeks minimum.
Factor in average time off for any injuries etc and we are looking at having, by my estimate, a minimum of thirty to thirty five available league game slots for the other players to fill.
Just looking at past seasons, Watson and Ritchie played about half the number of league games Edinburgh had on a good run, Big Bill played around two thirds.
If Edinburgh are to compete seriously we have to keep all the guys like Bradbury and Crosbie plus the up and coming ones like Boyle and Darge, you have to replace like for as near as dammit like.
Crosbie and Bradbury, more so Crosbie at the moment, are capable of starting big games for other clubs. Wont be popular but for me Crosbie would instantly be Glasgow's best flanker.
We'll be playing the Sharks, Bulls, Lions and Stormers as well as the four Irish and Welsh sides. There won't be many easy games, not that there ever are for Edinburgh, I want us to field a formidable team whoever we have playing, Leinster and Munster manage it, that is what we should be aiming for.
If Crosbie wants to start for Edinburgh at the business end of the season then he has to earn it, but we have to get to that business end by being consistently good for every match.
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Nakarawa off to Ulster next season. Any Glasgow fans that bothered? Hasn't really worked out the second time.
Nakarawa off to Ulster next season. Any Glasgow fans that bothered? Hasn't really worked out the second time.
So I squares up, casual like.
Yeah ..... but No
If we were losing a 2015 Nakarawa , then that would have been a big blow , but the 2021 version at 33 is a completely different proposition
Glasgow will always have fond memories , but it simply hasn't worked out , with the disruptive season , his fitness / possible attitude etc
Gray snr , looks to be the much better import from France ( assuming he stays fit ) , and along with Cummings , it forms the best 2nd row based in Scotland
Glasgow will need to pick up a suitable (younger )replacement , but I suspect that Nakawara going will have freed up a bit of cash
If we were losing a 2015 Nakarawa , then that would have been a big blow , but the 2021 version at 33 is a completely different proposition
Glasgow will always have fond memories , but it simply hasn't worked out , with the disruptive season , his fitness / possible attitude etc
Gray snr , looks to be the much better import from France ( assuming he stays fit ) , and along with Cummings , it forms the best 2nd row based in Scotland
Glasgow will need to pick up a suitable (younger )replacement , but I suspect that Nakawara going will have freed up a bit of cash
Lager & Lime - we don't do cocktails
They've barely seen him, haven't they?Begbie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:36 pm https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/na ... oin-ulster
Nakarawa off to Ulster next season. Any Glasgow fans that bothered? Hasn't really worked out the second time.
Glasgow's recruitment efforts have been pretty poor at the tail-end of Rennie's reign and with Wilson coming in. Richie Gray seems to be working out, and the Duncan Weir signing is fair enough, but the strategy doesn't seem to stretch far beyond spunking money on familiar former players.
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Aye, it's little more than glory day nostalgia. Just like the seasons leading up to the 2015 league win, we need to go all in on exciting young talent.robmatic wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:44 amThey've barely seen him, haven't they?Begbie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:36 pm https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/na ... oin-ulster
Nakarawa off to Ulster next season. Any Glasgow fans that bothered? Hasn't really worked out the second time.
Glasgow's recruitment efforts have been pretty poor at the tail-end of Rennie's reign and with Wilson coming in. Richie Gray seems to be working out, and the Duncan Weir signing is fair enough, but the strategy doesn't seem to stretch far beyond spunking money on familiar former players.
What's the craic with these covid bubbles? I thought the reason that a few players weren't included was because they couldn't just jump between teams atm. Redpath, Gray and Hogg all in action though so was it just bullshit or me picking it up wrong (most likely this tbf)?
I was delighted to see this as well. I played a couple of times with him at Dundee and met himSlick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:10 pmThat’s great news! I thought it was all over for him so wasn’t expecting to see this.westport wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:33 am Good news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55860080
a few years back in Edinburgh. A gem of a guy.
It pains me a bit, but I hope it's true. I just have visions of Fagerson getting rag dolled constantly, might be unfair.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
I'm with you there, I don't really rate Fagerson. I'd be more than happy for him to ram humble pie down my throat though.
So I squares up, casual like.
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To be fair to Fagerson he is only 22 still. I think he'll be good, he's very useful at changing the point of contact. But at 22 he's maybe a bit lightweight for international rugby. Would rather him at 6 than Thomson if Ritchie is out though.Begbie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:57 amI'm with you there, I don't really rate Fagerson. I'd be more than happy for him to ram humble pie down my throat though.