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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:42 am Amazing how a bunch of dronk armchair fans can see it, but 7 Pro coaches in the Currie Cup (I exclude Ivan van Rooyen here because the Lions do actually move the ball by hand) just don't want to try it. :crazy:
I remember when the English Premiership restarted, there were in a similar position. Lots of penalties and lots of kicking. But somehow they managed to remove the shackles and lately the rugby has been great.
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assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:46 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:42 am Amazing how a bunch of dronk armchair fans can see it, but 7 Pro coaches in the Currie Cup (I exclude Ivan van Rooyen here because the Lions do actually move the ball by hand) just don't want to try it. :crazy:
I remember when the English Premiership restarted, there were in a similar position. Lots of penalties and lots of kicking. But somehow they managed to remove the shackles and lately the rugby has been great.
We definitely need to vary our approach. It's one dimensional to the extreme.
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handyman wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:50 am We definitely need to vary our approach. It's one dimensional to the extreme.
Somehow the Franchise Cup doesn't fill me with hope.

Munster and Leinster must be licking their lips.
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assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:54 am
handyman wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:50 am We definitely need to vary our approach. It's one dimensional to the extreme.
Somehow the Franchise Cup doesn't fill me with hope.

Munster and Leinster must be licking their lips.
Rassie will need to have a word as director of rugby. These last 2 weeks have been painful to watch.
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handyman wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:00 am
assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:54 am
handyman wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:50 am We definitely need to vary our approach. It's one dimensional to the extreme.
Somehow the Franchise Cup doesn't fill me with hope.

Munster and Leinster must be licking their lips.
Rassie will need to have a word as director of rugby. These last 2 weeks have been painful to watch.
Its his fault..his gameplan...
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:42 am
assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:15 am
The great irony being that both sides scored tries on the occasions they didn't kick.
Amazing how a bunch of dronk armchair fans can see it, but 7 Pro coaches in the Currie Cup (I exclude Ivan van Rooyen here because the Lions do actually move the ball by hand) just don't want to try it. :crazy:
For you, maybe, but there's a booze ban on here...
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Sards wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:11 am
handyman wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:00 am
assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:54 am

Somehow the Franchise Cup doesn't fill me with hope.

Munster and Leinster must be licking their lips.
Rassie will need to have a word as director of rugby. These last 2 weeks have been painful to watch.
Its his fault..his gameplan...
Guess you missed the RWC final.
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Rinkals wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:43 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:42 am
assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:15 am
The great irony being that both sides scored tries on the occasions they didn't kick.
Amazing how a bunch of dronk armchair fans can see it, but 7 Pro coaches in the Currie Cup (I exclude Ivan van Rooyen here because the Lions do actually move the ball by hand) just don't want to try it. :crazy:
For you, maybe, but there's a booze ban on here...
With any luck, the president will overturn the ban tonight.
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Sards wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:11 am
handyman wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:00 am
assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:54 am

Somehow the Franchise Cup doesn't fill me with hope.

Munster and Leinster must be licking their lips.
Rassie will need to have a word as director of rugby. These last 2 weeks have been painful to watch.
Its his fault..his gameplan...
Yep, agree on this one. This work well in test rugby but is kak in provincial rugby. Cheetahs and Lions plays nice running rugby.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:24 pm Cheetahs and Lions plays nice running rugby.
And herein lies the conundrum. Nice rugby isn't always winning rugby.
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assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:38 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:24 pm Cheetahs and Lions plays nice running rugby.
And herein lies the conundrum. Nice rugby isn't always winning rugby.
Sure.
However......................when you look at the Boks at the RWC both 2007 and 2019 they played brutal, high paced and skilful rugby. It wasn't pretty but it was very effective and made for a good watch. What we saw during the CC was MOSTLY limp wristed, slow and unskilled rugby.

The Lions showed a lot of endeavour and a bit more skill than the rest of teams.The Bulls played very nice rugby at times. The Cheetahs, Griquas and Pumas tried. The WP and Sharks played terrible rugby throughout. They tried to emulate the Boks, but the players were unable to show any real effectiveness in playing that game, except for Kitshof, who was brilliant throughout the season. There is a huge problem with the coaches. Mbonambi goes from superb to not being able to hit the barn, never mind the barn door. Malherbe can't scrum. Kolisi becomes Cap'n Invisible. Jantjies becomes Junkies. Willemse turns into a turd. Am & Nkosi are negated by a 10 who can't fukken pass and kicks every ball away.
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Western Province loose forward Jaco Coetzee has been released early from his contract and will join Bath after signing a deal with the English Premiership team
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Sards wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:03 pm Western Province loose forward Jaco Coetzee has been released early from his contract and will join Bath after signing a deal with the English Premiership team
Disappointed to lose him - he’ll probably play for England in 2025.
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I am pretty happy with the Sharks effort. Newish coach who will no doubt have learned some good lessons this year. Had a great start to the abandoned Super rugby tourney and played some cracking rugby.

Great to have a leader like Eduard Coetzee at the helm and the new investors add a lot if security.

Hopefully we can hang on to the players this year. We pushed a strong Bulls team all the way to the end and did great for such a young squad. I foresee patchy results for a year or two until we can develop a gun pack. This is where the focus will be in recruiting.

Granted they didn't look very fluent during the CC but the experience given to the youngsters is awesome. These players all had plenty of game time and there is still guys like Evan Roos, Boeta Chamberlain and Hanro Jacobs. waiting in the wings.

Ox Nche - 25
Thomas the Tank - 25
Fez Mbatha - 20
Dan Jooste - 22
JJ van de Mescht - 21
Dylan Richardson - 22
Celempilo Gumede - 20
Phepsi Buthelezi - 22
Jaden Hendrikse - 20
Sanele Nohamba -22
Curwin Bosch - 23
Sbu Nkosi - 25
Aphelele Fassi - 23
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FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:15 pm I am pretty happy with the Sharks effort. Newish coach who will no doubt have learned some good lessons this year. Had a great start to the abandoned Super rugby tourney and played some cracking rugby.

Great to have a leader like Eduard Coetzee at the helm and the new investors add a lot if security.

Hopefully we can hang on to the players this year. We pushed a strong Bulls team all the way to the end and did great for such a young squad. I foresee patchy results for a year or two until we can develop a gun pack. This is where the focus will be in recruiting.

Granted they didn't look very fluent during the CC but the experience given to the youngsters is awesome. These players all had plenty of game time and there is still guys like Evan Roos, Boeta Chamberlain and Hanro Jacobs. waiting in the wings.

Ox Nche - 25
Thomas the Tank - 25
Fez Mbatha - 20
Dan Jooste - 22
JJ van de Mescht - 21
Dylan Richardson - 22
Celempilo Gumede - 20
Phepsi Buthelezi - 22
Jaden Hendrikse - 20
Sanele Nohamba -22
Curwin Bosch - 23
Sbu Nkosi - 25
Aphelele Fassi - 23
JJ is a beast...he looks like a prop and plays like a demon. You can actually see the joy in his eyes...when I saw the introduction video when he joined the Sharks I was impressed. Couldn't understand why the Lions let him go. I think he still has lots to offer. We do need someone else like a Dan du Preez. Lions have Alberts, Bulls have Duane. Those players wear out the opposition and keep players busy.

Jaden impressed hugely...and so young

Very disappointed in our CC season. It's not Sharks rugby. These kids and Everett need to take their focus off making the boks and concentrate on playing the rugby we saw in Super Rugby. Making the boks is too personal. They need to focus on setting the NH alight with traditional Sharks rugby.

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Sards wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:12 pm
FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:15 pm I am pretty happy with the Sharks effort. Newish coach who will no doubt have learned some good lessons this year. Had a great start to the abandoned Super rugby tourney and played some cracking rugby.

Great to have a leader like Eduard Coetzee at the helm and the new investors add a lot if security.

Hopefully we can hang on to the players this year. We pushed a strong Bulls team all the way to the end and did great for such a young squad. I foresee patchy results for a year or two until we can develop a gun pack. This is where the focus will be in recruiting.

Granted they didn't look very fluent during the CC but the experience given to the youngsters is awesome. These players all had plenty of game time and there is still guys like Evan Roos, Boeta Chamberlain and Hanro Jacobs. waiting in the wings.

Ox Nche - 25
Thomas the Tank - 25
Fez Mbatha - 20
Dan Jooste - 22
JJ van de Mescht - 21
Dylan Richardson - 22
Celempilo Gumede - 20
Phepsi Buthelezi - 22
Jaden Hendrikse - 20
Sanele Nohamba -22
Curwin Bosch - 23
Sbu Nkosi - 25
Aphelele Fassi - 23
JJ is a beast...he looks like a prop and plays like a demon. You can actually see the joy in his eyes...when I saw the introduction video when he joined the Sharks I was impressed. Couldn't understand why the Lions let him go. I think he still has lots to offer. We do need someone else like a Dan du Preez. Lions have Alberts, Bulls have Duane. Those players wear out the opposition and keep players busy.

Jaden impressed hugely...and so young

Very disappointed in our CC season. It's not Sharks rugby. These kids and Everett need to take their focus off making the boks and concentrate on playing the rugby we saw in Super Rugby. Making the boks is too personal. They need to focus on setting the NH alight with traditional Sharks rugby.

BRING BACK THE BRAND
JJ has what it takes to be a Sharks amd Bok legend.

Just to put the inexperience of the squad into perspective. Check out these teams from past Cx finals.

2010
Sharks: 15 Louis Ludik, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Stefan Terblanché (captain), 12 Andries Strauss, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Patrick Lambie, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Keegan Daniel, 5 Alistair Hargreaves, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

1996

Sharks Match 22:

15. Andre Joubert
14. James Small
13. Jeremy Thomson
12. Dick Muir
11. Joos Joubert
10. Henry Honiball
9. Kevin Putt
8. Gary Teichmann (Capt)
7. Wickus van Heerden
6. Wayne Fyvie
5. Steve Atherton
4. Mark Andrews
3. Adrian Garvey
2. Federico Mendez
1. Rob Kempson

Reserves: John Allan, Ollie le Roux, John Slade, John Plumtree, Robert du Preez, Thierry Lacroix, Cabous van der Westhuizen.
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That side is full of legends.

Look. There is a lot to say about the quality of rugby lately. This phenomenon of kicking the leather off the ball is a recent development for the Sharks. Its not how we play the game and Rassie has a lot to answer for in this regard. This is his game plan and what he is looking for in his team. Its limited. A bad day with the boot and it's game over.
Up until the Currie Cup started we were running the ball around in the last Superrugby tournament and leading the tournament. I feel the pressure of the BIL tournament is causing our teams to focus on what Rassie is looking for rather than the natural game.
I doubt very much the BIL tour will happen.
I am still bitter we dropped the Kiwis. They really helped to define our rugby. Some of our sides swam and some sunk . But we were forced to be more skillfull.
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Good news for WP...the Guptas are brokering a deal to find a sponsor in Dubai for WP. July most contracts expire so Rasool needs to move on this or lose his players
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WP don't need money to buy players, they will just bring young ones through their strong structures.

Springbok players like Kitshoff and Malherbe is true WP products. They were born in Streep truie.

There will be young ones like them and Thomas Tank, waiting their change to get through and then there will be wise students coming from Durban and KZN going to Maties and Ikeys because local there is vokol opportunities to study and play sport.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:22 am WP don't need money to buy players, they will just bring young ones through their strong structures.

Springbok players like Kitshoff and Malherbe is true WP products. They were born in Streep truie.

There will be young ones like them and Thomas Tank, waiting their change to get through and then there will be wise students coming from Durban and KZN going to Maties and Ikeys because local there is vokol opportunities to study and play sport.
I'll believe this when I see it.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:22 am WP don't need money to buy players, they will just bring young ones through their strong structures.

Springbok players like Kitshoff and Malherbe is true WP products. They were born in Streep truie.

There will be young ones like them and Thomas Tank, waiting their change to get through and then there will be wise students coming from Durban and KZN going to Maties and Ikeys because local there is vokol opportunities to study and play sport.
Oom is 100% right.
However the WP will need money to keep players.

They must be careful or they will turn into the new VRYSTAAT. Good schools, produce good players, go to good Varsity while playing good Rugby. Then get poached because the Union is a disaster and funds are limited.

Already people are referring to the WP as clown college.
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I see marvelous Marvin is leaving now too...this drain will continue...those teams without investors are going to be pickled clean.
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Sad to see Glenwood boy Jaco Coetzee leave. Luckily WP have another Glenwood star Nama Xaba on the flank. They sent us Evan Roos though so can't complain.

Oom who was that freak no. 8 from one of Paarl schools. Gideon someone I think. Is he playing u21?
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FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:04 pm Sad to see Glenwood boy Jaco Coetzee leave. Luckily WP have another Glenwood star Nama Xaba on the flank. They sent us Evan Roos though so can't complain.

Oom who was that freak no. 8 from one of Paarl schools. Gideon someone I think. Is he playing u21?
Nick Koster?
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FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:04 pm Sad to see Glenwood boy Jaco Coetzee leave. Luckily WP have another Glenwood star Nama Xaba on the flank. They sent us Evan Roos though so can't complain.

Oom who was that freak no. 8 from one of Paarl schools. Gideon someone I think. Is he playing u21?
Gideon van Wyk Paarl Boishaai?


Paarl Boys alumni, Gideon van Wyk has since settled down in the heart of Bloemfontein, applying his trade at the Shimlas Young Guns at position 7/8.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:02 pm
FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:04 pm Sad to see Glenwood boy Jaco Coetzee leave. Luckily WP have another Glenwood star Nama Xaba on the flank. They sent us Evan Roos though so can't complain.

Oom who was that freak no. 8 from one of Paarl schools. Gideon someone I think. Is he playing u21?
Gideon van Wyk Paarl Boishaai?


Paarl Boys alumni, Gideon van Wyk has since settled down in the heart of Bloemfontein, applying his trade at the Shimlas Young Guns at position 7/8.
Yep that's him.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:41 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:02 pm
FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:04 pm Sad to see Glenwood boy Jaco Coetzee leave. Luckily WP have another Glenwood star Nama Xaba on the flank. They sent us Evan Roos though so can't complain.

Oom who was that freak no. 8 from one of Paarl schools. Gideon someone I think. Is he playing u21?
Gideon van Wyk Paarl Boishaai?


Paarl Boys alumni, Gideon van Wyk has since settled down in the heart of Bloemfontein, applying his trade at the Shimlas Young Guns at position 7/8.
Yep that's him. Reminds me a lot of Skinstad before his injury.
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I am sorry...but watching school boy rugby and then seeing these kids in senior rugby is a completely different situation...

Remember all those schoolboy videos ouboet posted about that lighty...whats his name....

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So.

Currie Cup is over.

What now?
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https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/fran ... n-20210209

I can't wait to watch the $hark$ and WP bore the Kings to death.
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:lol: The Kings will have to field Grey High and Dale matrics. All their players have fucked off elsewhere. Maybe they can coax Luke Watson out of retirement.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:07 pm :lol: The Kings will have to field Grey High and Dale matrics. All their players have fucked off elsewhere. Maybe they can coax Luke Watson out of retirement.
Hopefully they will, at least, play dynamic rugby and show some skill. Not the kick every fukken ball away that you haven't dropped shit that we had show cased earlier on.
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https://rugby365.com/tournaments/super- ... or-kolisi/

TRANSFER TALK: Stormers captain Siya Kolisi is reportedly heading to the Sharks.

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The World Cup-winning captain Kolisi’s playing future has been under the spotlight ever since the Sharks’ partnership with MVM Holdings was officially unveiled.

MVM Holdings, an international investment consortium spearheaded by Marco Masotti, entered into an agreement to purchase a 51 percent majority stake in the Sharks with the KwaZulu-Natal Rugby Union and SuperSport International holding the remaining 49 percent of the franchise.

With millions of dollars flooding into Durban, the franchise is set to be significantly strengthened over the next few years through player acquisitions and Kolisi’s name has popped up on numerous occasions

One of MVM Holdings’ partners is Vincent Mai, who has a very close relationship with Kolisi. The Springbok captain was the first recipient of the Vincent Mai Bursary Scheme, which allowed him to attend prestigious Grey High in Port Elizabeth.

Kolisi also has a management deal with Roc Nation Sports International. The company’s president, Michael Yormark, is also one of Masotti’s partners.

While Kolisi along with the Stormers have denied the rumour mill, Netwerk24 recently reported that the Cape Town franchise have accepted a million rand offer from the Sharks.

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The media outlet also revealed that the transfer is set to be announced this week.

Source: Netwerk24
I, for one, look forward to the rabid WP "PREMIER POSTERS" starting to pass "honest" comments on Cap'n Siya's performances for the $hark$!

And, of course, the " $hark$ supporters*" comments during the same match.


* please let us know if any of you have self anointed yourselves as "PREMIER POSTERS" so that we can address you with the contempt that you deserve in future.
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Chilli wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:55 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:07 pm :lol: The Kings will have to field Grey High and Dale matrics. All their players have fucked off elsewhere. Maybe they can coax Luke Watson out of retirement.
Hopefully they will, at least, play dynamic rugby and show some skill. Not the kick every fukken ball away that you haven't dropped shit that we had show cased earlier on.
The Sharks backline is almost completely made up of EP/Border boys
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Are you on the trol ?

Stupid question.

He havent add value to WP since he became Bok captain. Wish him well at the Sharks. WP need to chop out the old wood and start fresh.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:20 am
Chilli wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:55 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:07 pm :lol: The Kings will have to field Grey High and Dale matrics. All their players have fucked off elsewhere. Maybe they can coax Luke Watson out of retirement.
Hopefully they will, at least, play dynamic rugby and show some skill. Not the kick every fukken ball away that you haven't dropped shit that we had show cased earlier on.
The Sharks backline is almost completely made up of EP/Border boys
You can have the worlds best players from 11 to 15, f your 10 kicks every ball away and can't pass you will never see their talents show cased.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:20 am Are you on the trol ?

Stupid question.

He havent add value to WP since he became Bok captain. Wish him well at the Sharks. WP need to chop out the old wood and start fresh.
And here it starts :lol:
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Chilli wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:16 am https://rugby365.com/tournaments/super- ... or-kolisi/

TRANSFER TALK: Stormers captain Siya Kolisi is reportedly heading to the Sharks.

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The World Cup-winning captain Kolisi’s playing future has been under the spotlight ever since the Sharks’ partnership with MVM Holdings was officially unveiled.

MVM Holdings, an international investment consortium spearheaded by Marco Masotti, entered into an agreement to purchase a 51 percent majority stake in the Sharks with the KwaZulu-Natal Rugby Union and SuperSport International holding the remaining 49 percent of the franchise.

With millions of dollars flooding into Durban, the franchise is set to be significantly strengthened over the next few years through player acquisitions and Kolisi’s name has popped up on numerous occasions

One of MVM Holdings’ partners is Vincent Mai, who has a very close relationship with Kolisi. The Springbok captain was the first recipient of the Vincent Mai Bursary Scheme, which allowed him to attend prestigious Grey High in Port Elizabeth.

Kolisi also has a management deal with Roc Nation Sports International. The company’s president, Michael Yormark, is also one of Masotti’s partners.

While Kolisi along with the Stormers have denied the rumour mill, Netwerk24 recently reported that the Cape Town franchise have accepted a million rand offer from the Sharks.

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The media outlet also revealed that the transfer is set to be announced this week.

Source: Netwerk24
I, for one, look forward to the rabid WP "PREMIER POSTERS" starting to pass "honest" comments on Cap'n Siya's performances for the $hark$!

And, of course, the " $hark$ supporters*" comments during the same match.


* please let us know if any of you have self anointed yourselves as "PREMIER POSTERS" so that we can address you with the contempt that you deserve in future.
Calm down, cupcake. It was all tongue in cheek.
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Chilli has a bit of pepper on his bits about this.
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Chilli wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:28 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:20 am Are you on the trol ?

Stupid question.

He havent add value to WP since he became Bok captain. Wish him well at the Sharks. WP need to chop out the old wood and start fresh.
And here it starts :lol:
:lol: :lol:
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