Americas Cup - Official Thread

[obelixtim]

Jimmy hands Ben his arse.

2 - 0.

British meeja blowhards jinx poor Ben.

4 - 0.

[Ymx]

Credit where it's due, they've got LR humming in terms of both boat and team - flawless performance today.

They haven’t made a mistake. It’s scary

[charltom]

Jimmy hands Ben his arse.

2 - 0.

British meeja blowhards jinx poor Ben.

4 - 0.

This is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!

[Ymx]

Jimmy hands Ben his arse.

2 - 0.

British meeja blowhards jinx poor Ben.

4 - 0.

This is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!

No, terrible time.

However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel

https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D

Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.

[obelixtim]

4 - 0.

This is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!

No, terrible time.

However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel

https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D

Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.

Lowlights for UK viewers...

[Gumboot]

Wednesday's scheduled racing has been postponed until further notice due to Auckland's latest covid lockdown.

[Ymx]

Wednesday's scheduled racing has been postponed until further notice due to Auckland's latest covid lockdown.

Have businesses closed down in the lockdown?

Why can’t the teams still operate as normal?

I could understand if they ditched the spectators, but a sailing team ? Why?

[Sandstorm]

Wednesday's scheduled racing has been postponed until further notice due to Auckland's latest covid lockdown.

Have businesses closed down in the lockdown?

Why can’t the teams still operate as normal?

I could understand if they ditched the spectators, but a sailing team ? Why?

Because there isn’t enough time for the teams to isolate. So you shut down everything.

[Ymx]

Just read a bit more. Sounds like a strict lockdown. Pretty much what we have over here.

The measures in Auckland require its 1.7 million residents to stay at home except for essential shopping and work. Schools and non-essential shops will close, and entry in and out of the city restricted.

So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.

[charltom]

4 - 0.

This is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!

No, terrible time.

However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel

https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D

Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.

I know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.

[Monkey Magic]

Just read a bit more. Sounds like a strict lockdown. Pretty much what we have over here.

The measures in Auckland require its 1.7 million residents to stay at home except for essential shopping and work. Schools and non-essential shops will close, and entry in and out of the city restricted.

So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.

Wfh if you can, otherwise go to work as long as you can socially distance of 1m. Any customer interaction has to be contact less so cafes etc still open just serving at the door

Guessing the crews can't reasonably be expected to fulfill the distancing requirement.

[Grandpa]

This is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!

No, terrible time.

However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel

https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D

Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.

I know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.

Isn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...

[charltom]

No, terrible time.

However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel

https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D

Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.

I know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.

Isn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...

Presumably you need Sky something (box, dish?). Certainly can't see that channel on my TV.

[Grandpa]

I know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.

Isn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...

Presumably you need Sky something (box, dish?). Certainly can't see that channel on my TV.

Probably right. It's one of those free Sky channels as long as you have some sort of basic Sky package...

[Grandpa]

Sky Sports Mix is streaming free here... but then you can watchh the America's Cup on YouTube too...

http://freestreams-live1.com/skyspomix/

[Ymx]

Isn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...

Presumably you need Sky something (box, dish?). Certainly can't see that channel on my TV.

Probably right. It's one of those free Sky channels as long as you have some sort of basic Sky package...

It’s all part of standard sky sports. And is on sky mobile (nowtv). Only about £5 a month.

[Ymx]

Just read a bit more. Sounds like a strict lockdown. Pretty much what we have over here.

The measures in Auckland require its 1.7 million residents to stay at home except for essential shopping and work. Schools and non-essential shops will close, and entry in and out of the city restricted.

So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.

Wfh if you can, otherwise go to work as long as you can socially distance of 1m. Any customer interaction has to be contact less so cafes etc still open just serving at the door

Guessing the crews can't reasonably be expected to fulfill the distancing requirement.

Shouldn’t be too hard for them to social in the sheds or are you meaning out on the boats?

In any case, what’s the latest on all this?

Understand Ben dropped in some of the UK strain to buy a bit of time.

[Ymx]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... s-Cup.html

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ben- ... -b8khcd6md

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... os-team-uk

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sir- ... -hwc802w23

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2021- ... ericas-cup

https://www.skysports.com/more-sports/s ... -cup-final

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sailing/55777982


Plenty of news coverage too.

Re news coverage from my post on prev page.

So on sky sports and a reasonable bit of coverage on news since the round robins mid Jan.

But I’ve probably seen more news pop up because google and apps know me !!

[Enzedder]

D day today (or is it L (lockdown) Day). Hopefully no more community cases and we can get on with life - and racing. Hopefully the Poms have found something to fix their manoeuvrability issues.

[Monkey Magic]

Just read a bit more. Sounds like a strict lockdown. Pretty much what we have over here.



So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.

Wfh if you can, otherwise go to work as long as you can socially distance of 1m. Any customer interaction has to be contact less so cafes etc still open just serving at the door

Guessing the crews can't reasonably be expected to fulfill the distancing requirement.

Shouldn’t be too hard for them to social in the sheds or are you meaning out on the boats?

In any case, what’s the latest on all this?

Understand Ben dropped in some of the UK strain to buy a bit of time.

Was thinking the boats but apparently tnz were allowed out to train yesterday so buggered if I know- maybe ok to train as small team vs all the people needed to go out to setup a race.

Fingers crossed more good news today and we get some racing later in the week - weather's come good as well after 2 days of rain

[Enzedder]

I would have thought no, in case they have an accident and expose emergency service personnel

[Enzedder]

And with 2 more community cases, the chance of any racing this week disappears.

Nope - seems I know nothing.

racing will resume tomorrow.

[Ymx]

Pleased about the racing.

But hope you guys get the virus under control. That Kent one spreads like wildfire. Assume the risk is knowing how these new cases are linked to the other 3. Plus those who might be currently asymptomatic

[Ymx]

n these uncertain times, as the permitted Event Organiser responsible for the delivery of the 36th America’s Cup presented by Prada in Auckland under the Host Venue Agreement with NZ Government and Auckland Council, America’s Cup Event Limited remains committed to maintaining as many aspects as possible of the Event as originally planned.This includes the ambition to maximise the possibility of safe public engagement at the event for Aucklanders and kiwis from around the country, as well as the commercial benefits to local businesses, event sponsors and partners which includes the New Zealand Government and Auckland City.

The position of ACE is based on one of two options based on the Government’s review of alert levels at 4:30 this afternoon:
- If the alert levels drop to level 1 in time, then racing will resume this weekend.
- If the alert level remains at 3 or 2, which obviously entails restrictions in gatherings and difficulties with events, racing and event activations would need to be rescheduled to recommence the PRADA Cup Final on Friday 26 February. To respect the original timeframe scheduled between the Prada Cup Final and the America’s Cup Match, Race 1 of the Match would subsequently begin a week later on Saturday 13 March with the intention of racing still being completed by 21 March.

This morning the Challenger of Record (COR36) has made their position very clear in stating their desire to race from tomorrow despite COVID Alert level 3, to complete the PRADA Cup final by the 24th February in accordance with the existing Prada Cup conditions.
They have also stated that if the racing program cannot be completed by Wednesday (24th) they intend to declare the leading point scorer the winner of the Prada Cup and Challenger for the America’s Cup Match. Under the current points situation, that would be Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli team.

Sounds as though it’s getting hairy.

Event organiser not allowing racing until they can have spectators by the sounds.

LR saying get on with it else we will truncate it on the 24th. Sounds like they’re within there rights.

Ugly

[Ymx]

I have to say though we are continuing sports over here in stadiums without crowds.

Crowds even less important for America’s Cup.

[Ymx]

It goes on

CHALLENGER OF RECORD AMERICA'S CUP 36 ORGANIZER OF THE PRADA CUP CALLS FOR RESUMING RACING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

Challenger of Record America's Cup 36 (COR 36) - the organizer of the PRADA Cup – urged America’s Cup Events (ACE) to request an exemption to carry on the Final of the PRADA Cup in compliance with the Racing Calendar and in order to meet the legitimate expectations of the competitors involved, of the international public and of the international television networks who have already programmed their broadcastings.

Unfortunately this did not happen, notwithstanding a protocol and a procedure which were put in place since months in the event such circumstance would occur. COR 36 has been now informed by ACE that they are discussing with the Authorities different options, including the postponement of the racing to the 26th of February; this is in total breach of the regulations, which set the 24th of February as the end of the PRADA Cup, without any possible extension.

COR 36 is indeed endeavouring to ensure that the PRADA Cup Final resumes as early as the 19th of February whilst respecting public health and the protocols imposed by the New Zealand government. COR 36 has also offered its full support to ACE and to the local authorities to immediately implement the Level 3 Alert management plan provided for by the AC36 Event COVID-19 Management On Land and On Water Plans. These plans provide that, in a level 3 COVID-19 alert, the AC36 Village shall be closed and the regattas shall resume “behind closed doors”, without any public, as it already happens for many international sporting events (Formula 1, Australian Open etc.).

This on water management plan has already been tested and can therefore be immediately activated with the approval of the Authorities. Since teams are authorised to sail and practice under COVID-19 level 3 alert, it is hard to understand why racing “behind closed doors” could not be allowed applying the same protocols.

In this context, and in compliance with the regulations, there is no reason to further delay the carrying on of the regattas as scheduled, giving both teams the opportunity to complete the number of races required by the series within the terms and deadlines imposed by the racing calendar. It should be reminded that otherwise Rule A2.3(b) of Appendix A to the World Sailing Racing Rules of Sailing America’s Cup edition Version 3.03 for the 36th America’s Cup presented by PRADA - which provide that “….the winner is the team with the highest score at the date of the final scheduled date” - would apply.

COR 36 hopes not to apply this provision and that an exemption to allow racing at the scheduled dates will be granted.

[obelixtim]

This pissing around makes it even more of a farce. There is absolutely no reason why they cannot be out on the water racing. The "spectators" can spread out and watch it on big screens.

The whole event is just a joke.

[Ymx]

A new update. Racing is happening.

How fvcking sulky is Tina Symmans from ACE.

That’s embarrassing

While America’s Cup Event is encouraged by the news that Auckland has come down to COVID Alert Level 2, one step closer to Level 1 potentially early next week, it is clear that COR are determined to remain inflexible to a change in the race schedule against the interests of the public and commercial benefits to the city and businesses. ACE has consistently maintained our preference to have the best opportunity to race at alert level 1.

Chair of America’s Cup Events Tina Symmans said, “This is a disappointing situation, it is my responsibility to do my best to run the event with the best interests of the public and all stakeholders in mind. So with the current impasse, while not agreeing with the Challenger of Record, we want to see the regatta completed on the water”

ACE now considers the best solution that can be hoped for is to continue racing this weekend which will at least allow as much opportunity as possible for the public to enjoy the viewing in small gatherings or via the TV broadcast.

“Since Sunday, we have worked really hard on behalf of everyone in Auckland and all kiwis to give COR the opportunity to demonstrate some honour and respect for this country and delay the Prada Cup until we have a greater chance of everyone being able to enjoy and benefit from being back into Level 1.” explained Symmans.

“Clearly they have forgotten the words of their leader Patricio Bertelli at the opening press conference who spoke about how privileged everyone is to be in Auckland without significant Covid restrictions and that therefore everyone has a commitment and responsibility to deliver great sportsmanship and the Prada Cup to be a major sporting event.”

“This plea has fallen on deaf ears and it’s clear that their focus is solely on Luna Rossa taking the Prada Cup rather than the greater good of the country who have worked so hard in order to be in a position to stage this event.” Symmans concluded.

With this in mind racing under COVID19 Level 2 can continue with the following restrictions:

Racecourses B & C will not be used for racing, to mitigate the chance of large public gatherings on shore, which are in line with Government Level 2 restrictions.
No public viewing opportunities such as dock out shows or public screening of racing in the race village.
Including gatherings of no more than 100 people in the America’s Cup Race Village or public spectator vantage points around Auckland.
Limited village activations to ensure no more than 100 people.
2 metre physical distancing, and face masks recommended.
All bars, restaurants and cafes surrounding the Race Village can remain open in line with Ministry of Health COVID19 Level 2 Guidelines.
Public are reminded to always scan the NZCOVID19 Tracer App.

[Saint]

A new update. Racing is happening.

How fvcking sulky is Tina Symmans from ACE.

That’s embarrassing

While America’s Cup Event is encouraged by the news that Auckland has come down to COVID Alert Level 2, one step closer to Level 1 potentially early next week, it is clear that COR are determined to remain inflexible to a change in the race schedule against the interests of the public and commercial benefits to the city and businesses. ACE has consistently maintained our preference to have the best opportunity to race at alert level 1.

Chair of America’s Cup Events Tina Symmans said, “This is a disappointing situation, it is my responsibility to do my best to run the event with the best interests of the public and all stakeholders in mind. So with the current impasse, while not agreeing with the Challenger of Record, we want to see the regatta completed on the water”

ACE now considers the best solution that can be hoped for is to continue racing this weekend which will at least allow as much opportunity as possible for the public to enjoy the viewing in small gatherings or via the TV broadcast.

“Since Sunday, we have worked really hard on behalf of everyone in Auckland and all kiwis to give COR the opportunity to demonstrate some honour and respect for this country and delay the Prada Cup until we have a greater chance of everyone being able to enjoy and benefit from being back into Level 1.” explained Symmans.

“Clearly they have forgotten the words of their leader Patricio Bertelli at the opening press conference who spoke about how privileged everyone is to be in Auckland without significant Covid restrictions and that therefore everyone has a commitment and responsibility to deliver great sportsmanship and the Prada Cup to be a major sporting event.”

“This plea has fallen on deaf ears and it’s clear that their focus is solely on Luna Rossa taking the Prada Cup rather than the greater good of the country who have worked so hard in order to be in a position to stage this event.” Symmans concluded.

With this in mind racing under COVID19 Level 2 can continue with the following restrictions:

Racecourses B & C will not be used for racing, to mitigate the chance of large public gatherings on shore, which are in line with Government Level 2 restrictions.
No public viewing opportunities such as dock out shows or public screening of racing in the race village.
Including gatherings of no more than 100 people in the America’s Cup Race Village or public spectator vantage points around Auckland.
Limited village activations to ensure no more than 100 people.
2 metre physical distancing, and face masks recommended.
All bars, restaurants and cafes surrounding the Race Village can remain open in line with Ministry of Health COVID19 Level 2 Guidelines.
Public are reminded to always scan the NZCOVID19 Tracer App.

Even if you don't understand the intricacies of what's going on,whoever wrote that statement should be fired immediately. It just comes across as a massive strop

[obelixtim]

A new update. Racing is happening.

How fvcking sulky is Tina Symmans from ACE.

That’s embarrassing

While America’s Cup Event is encouraged by the news that Auckland has come down to COVID Alert Level 2, one step closer to Level 1 potentially early next week, it is clear that COR are determined to remain inflexible to a change in the race schedule against the interests of the public and commercial benefits to the city and businesses. ACE has consistently maintained our preference to have the best opportunity to race at alert level 1.

Chair of America’s Cup Events Tina Symmans said, “This is a disappointing situation, it is my responsibility to do my best to run the event with the best interests of the public and all stakeholders in mind. So with the current impasse, while not agreeing with the Challenger of Record, we want to see the regatta completed on the water”

ACE now considers the best solution that can be hoped for is to continue racing this weekend which will at least allow as much opportunity as possible for the public to enjoy the viewing in small gatherings or via the TV broadcast.

“Since Sunday, we have worked really hard on behalf of everyone in Auckland and all kiwis to give COR the opportunity to demonstrate some honour and respect for this country and delay the Prada Cup until we have a greater chance of everyone being able to enjoy and benefit from being back into Level 1.” explained Symmans.

“Clearly they have forgotten the words of their leader Patricio Bertelli at the opening press conference who spoke about how privileged everyone is to be in Auckland without significant Covid restrictions and that therefore everyone has a commitment and responsibility to deliver great sportsmanship and the Prada Cup to be a major sporting event.”

“This plea has fallen on deaf ears and it’s clear that their focus is solely on Luna Rossa taking the Prada Cup rather than the greater good of the country who have worked so hard in order to be in a position to stage this event.” Symmans concluded.

With this in mind racing under COVID19 Level 2 can continue with the following restrictions:

Racecourses B & C will not be used for racing, to mitigate the chance of large public gatherings on shore, which are in line with Government Level 2 restrictions.
No public viewing opportunities such as dock out shows or public screening of racing in the race village.
Including gatherings of no more than 100 people in the America’s Cup Race Village or public spectator vantage points around Auckland.
Limited village activations to ensure no more than 100 people.
2 metre physical distancing, and face masks recommended.
All bars, restaurants and cafes surrounding the Race Village can remain open in line with Ministry of Health COVID19 Level 2 Guidelines.
Public are reminded to always scan the NZCOVID19 Tracer App.

Stupid woman.

[Grandpa]

I'm with her... the stupid woman... I think Luna Rossa are lacking class and sportsmanship with this stance... why force the event with restrictions on when you can wait a couple of days for this to be back to normal?

[Ymx]

No, they’re right.

There’s no guarantee it will be fine in a few days. It might even be worse. Get the racing in when you can.

And why fvck around with a racing schedule when it can continue?

This event has already been ruined and disrupted enough for lack of sailings. It’s the worst cup in living memory.

But ... but ... smaller crowds the weather might be nicer later and ice creams will sell better. Fvck off. It’s a sporting event, and they can race. So they bloody well should.

[obelixtim]

Luna Rossa has been in the right all through this bullshit about sportsmanship and disrespect for NZ from ACE and Ineos.

Ineos just trying to milk more time to get their shit together. Even Stevie Wonder can see that.

[Grandpa]

Lets see what the Karma Gods say tomorrow...

[Ymx]

Lets see what the Karma Gods say tomorrow...

Ms Symmans will get COVID??

Well they should have been racing Friday. ACE squeezed another needless day without racing. Let’s hope there are enough races to get a team to 7.

[Ovals]

Lets see what the Karma Gods say tomorrow...

Prada better make sure they don't infringe some very minor rule from now on - I doubt they'll be getting much sympathy from the organisers

Do they do an inspection of the boats on each racing day ?

[Ymx]

Yep by the measurements committee.

But Ben is the one who has fallen foul of this to date.

[Ovals]

Yep by the measurements committee.

But Ben is the one who has fallen foul of this to date.

They'll have the vernier gauges out for Prada tomorrow though


Be nice to see Ineos claw their way back - make a proper match of it. Lose tomorrow and they might as well go home.

[Gumboot]

Be nice to see Ineos claw their way back - make a proper match of it.

Yep.


Race 5 just about to kick off.

[stunt_cunt]

C'mon brits. Make a race of it.