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Johnson has always struck me as someone who spends money as fast, or faster than he could get his hands on it. The type of trust fund child who is forever asking for more cash because the £100k the trustees gave him last month to renovate his property has been spent on something else, with very little to show for it.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:16 am Johnson has always struck me as someone who spends money as fast, or faster than he could get his hands on it. The type of trust fund child who is forever asking for more cash because the £100k the trustees gave him last month to renovate his property has been spent on something else, with very little to show for it.
Well he regularly lets his dick lead him around; & that can cause serious financial heartache.

Can you imagine how much he's paid in divorce, & paternity payments over the years :shock:
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We'd need to know how many children he has first.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is some hush money in the pot, too.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:16 am Johnson has always struck me as someone who spends money as fast, or faster than he could get his hands on it. The type of trust fund child who is forever asking for more cash because the £100k the trustees gave him last month to renovate his property has been spent on something else, with very little to show for it.
Daily Mail getting their teeth into it. Peerages and favours all round for those who fund it?
Boris Johnson is secretly trying to set up a charity to help pay for a costly makeover of his official flat by his fiancée, it has been claimed.
The scheme is based on one used by the White House to raise millions of dollars for interior design, antiques and art.
The presidential charity is bankrolled by private donors – and the proposed Downing Street version is expected to be funded largely by wealthy Tory benefactors ...
Mr Johnson first expressed concern at the rising cost early last year. He is said to have commented there was ‘no way’ he could pay for it after being informed by the Cabinet Office that the maximum taxpayer contribution was ‘around £30,000’.
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maximum taxpayer contribution was ‘around £30,000’.
:crazy:
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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:50 pm
maximum taxpayer contribution was ‘around £30,000’.
:crazy:
Small beer compared to what Bercow spent out of taxpayer funds on the Speaker's residence
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Forget about all that, how CAN Harry go on TV????
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duke wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:46 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:50 pm
maximum taxpayer contribution was ‘around £30,000’.
:crazy:
Small beer compared to what Bercow spent out of taxpayer funds on the Speaker's residence
last time I checked Bercow was Tory scum, not withstanding that £20,000 is less that £30,000 even with a bit of inflation thrown in and Lindsay's got off to a rip roaring start.
Lindsay Hoyle spends £7,500 on bedding and mattresses for Speaker's residence

More than £12,000 of public money spent on refurbishing grace-and-favour home after Bercow’s departure

He might have been more frugal in the refurbishment of his grace-and-favour home than his predecessor, but the new Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, has still managed to rack up a considerable bill – including spending in excess of £7,500 on mattresses and bedding.

The sum accounts for more than half of the £12,636 of public money that went on works to get the Speaker’s residence in Palace of Westminster ready for his occupancy at the end of last year, according to details obtained by the Guardian using Freedom of Information laws. The total figure is, however, dwarfed by the more than £20,000 billed by the former Speaker, John Bercow, for work to the apartment in 2009.
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sturginho wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:05 pm Forget about all that, how CAN Harry go on TV????
How FUCK DARE HARRY pre-record an Interview with Oprah in mid-February knowing full well that Prince Philip was due to fall ill and end up in hospital.
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mattresses and bedding
, does sound like Tory code for, "Coke & Hookers" :eek:
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:44 pm
mattresses and bedding
, does sound like Tory code for, "Coke & Hookers" :eek:
Would you sleep in the same bed Berkow did for 10 years???
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:22 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:44 pm
mattresses and bedding
, does sound like Tory code for, "Coke & Hookers" :eek:
Would you sleep in the same bed Berkow did for 10 years???
I can't see myself spending 7,500 on a new bed & a few sheets; full stop.

What's the difference between a bed that costs 2k, versus one that costs 5k ?

Answer; SFA.
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:21 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:22 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:44 pm , does sound like Tory code for, "Coke & Hookers" :eek:
Would you sleep in the same bed Berkow did for 10 years???
I can't see myself spending 7,500 on a new bed & a few sheets; full stop.

What's the difference between a bed that costs 2k, versus one that costs 5k ?

Answer; SFA.
How may rooms does this place have?? if its 3 £7500 is toppy but not unreasonable.
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Openside wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:21 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:22 pm

Would you sleep in the same bed Berkow did for 10 years???
I can't see myself spending 7,500 on a new bed & a few sheets; full stop.

What's the difference between a bed that costs 2k, versus one that costs 5k ?

Answer; SFA.
How may rooms does this place have?? if its 3 £7500 is toppy but not unreasonable.
£2.5k per room for mattresses and bedding “a bit toppy”.
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Grace & favour housing is fucking ridiculous in scope in the UK anyway; & just handing an allowance, regardless of circumstance, to the occupant just invites abuse.

Why does a political hack like the chief whip get a state subsidized house ?

Why does the Speaker get an allowance, to re-decorate; instead of the property being maintained by the state; & the occupant gets a much smaller; "decoration" allowance ?

In the US; there's warehouses full of furniture; including art works; & the occupants of offices of state, can chose from these, to decorate their offices, & official residences; & at the end of their terms; they go back to the warehouse.

It's just bullshit privilege; from people who expect to have the taxpayers pay for their every whim.
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There's a new Tory mandated anti cocaine PR operation upcoming. Aye, good luck with that.

If you want the middle classes to stop using cocaine put the users in Wandsworth too.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:41 am There's a new Tory mandated anti cocaine PR operation upcoming. Aye, good luck with that.

If you want the middle classes to stop using cocaine put the users in Wandsworth too.
Pretty obvious anti-Gove campaign IMO
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JM2K6 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:51 am
I like neeps wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:41 am There's a new Tory mandated anti cocaine PR operation upcoming. Aye, good luck with that.

If you want the middle classes to stop using cocaine put the users in Wandsworth too.
Pretty obvious anti-Gove campaign IMO
This isn't particularly supportive of him either!!! Sums him up quite well.
THERE’S a 19th century novel that could have been written by Thackeray, detailing the rise to power of a talented social climber and the subsequent destruction of his integrity, and then his mind, on the altar of his own ambition: This novel bears the title Michael Gove.

A natural outsider to the charmed circle of the British elite, Gove’s career in government has consisted of almost perfect inverse correlation between his personal integrity and his political position, mirroring a gradual corruption all the more disturbing for its apparent irresistibility.
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Openside wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:21 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:22 pm

Would you sleep in the same bed Berkow did for 10 years???
I can't see myself spending 7,500 on a new bed & a few sheets; full stop.

What's the difference between a bed that costs 2k, versus one that costs 5k ?

Answer; SFA.
How may rooms does this place have?? if its 3 £7500 is toppy but not unreasonable.
:wtf: :lol:

Completely divorced from reality.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:50 pm
maximum taxpayer contribution was ‘around £30,000’.
:crazy:
But it was so important for her upstairs to get shot of the John Lewis shit.! And obviously what she wants she gets even if the blonde slug can't afford it
An article in Tatler magazine claims the overhaul saw Ms Symonds removing all vestiges of Theresa May’s “John Lewis furniture nightmare”.
It says the main living area of the flat has been painted deep green and is often lit by candles, while the couple chose not to hang pictures from the government art collection.

The decor is said to have been inspired by Lulu Lytle, a celebrated eco-interior designer, who makes furniture “based on traditional crafts, including blacksmiths”,
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To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:09 am To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
Guy Fawkes will be particularly irked, if after his failure, someone else destroys Parliament by just plugging in a dodgy Chinese charger
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Part of any rennovation should be the construction of dormitories. There's no reason MPs should be keeping a London property at tax payers' expense. If they want one, they can pay for it. Otherwise, use the dorms. Reasonable ones of course, not 18 bunk beds in a single room like the hostels I'm sure we've all used while back packing.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:09 am To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
As far as I’m aware the Parliament refurb is progressing isn’t it? Slowly of course.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:18 am Part of any rennovation should be the construction of dormitories. There's no reason MPs should be keeping a London property at tax payers' expense. If they want one, they can pay for it. Otherwise, use the dorms. Reasonable ones of course, not 18 bunk beds in a single room like the hostels I'm sure we've all used while back packing.
I like this idea - something similar to Portcullis House but with serviced apartments.
GogLais wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:19 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:09 am To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
As far as I’m aware the Parliament refurb is progressing isn’t it? Slowly of course.
I thought anything meaningful had come to a halt, I have to say.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:09 am To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
Haven't they budgetted £ billions to renovate the H o P. They are stiil arguing where they should decamp to when renovations get underway
There is an agreed budget for renovations for any new PM arriving in Downing St. The incoming PM should fund anything spent above that budget. The fact the Jonson and her upstairs are now running round with a begging bowl to their wealthy friends and cronies is their problem. It also sums up what an entitled pair of spendthrift bastards they are
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:04 am
Openside wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:21 pm

I can't see myself spending 7,500 on a new bed & a few sheets; full stop.

What's the difference between a bed that costs 2k, versus one that costs 5k ?

Answer; SFA.
How may rooms does this place have?? if its 3 £7500 is toppy but not unreasonable.
:wtf: :lol:

Completely divorced from reality.
Trying to forget those long days at the stationers.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:09 am To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
If only it was a complete and utter piss-take at every opportunity.

Exhibit A
£7,500 on mattresses and bedding
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Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:33 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:09 am To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
If only it was a complete and utter piss-take at every opportunity.

Exhibit A
£7,500 on mattresses and bedding
Extravagant or not, Boris the Great Satan or whatever that isn't exactly going to break the Treasury. Just fund it ffs, it's better than the alternative. Reminds me of Malcolm Tucker making Nicola Murray throw away the lumbar support chair because it's too nice.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:32 pm Just fund it ffs, it's better than the alternative.
eh? John Lewis furniture that they have to endure for another 3 years. How will they cope?
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:09 am To take the other side of this - the state of Downing Street and Parliament is an absolute shambles not fitting of the country and politicians should have the balls to renovate both with public money, and the public should be grown up enough to accept that our Parliament and Head of Government need proper facilities. There is a not zero chance of a Notre Dame style incident in Parliament and leaving aside views of the quality of people who inhabit the places it would be a national scandal should it come to pass.
If it did do a Notre Dame, all the asbestos would stop any major damage.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:32 pm
Openside wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:21 pm

I can't see myself spending 7,500 on a new bed & a few sheets; full stop.

What's the difference between a bed that costs 2k, versus one that costs 5k ?

Answer; SFA.
How may rooms does this place have?? if its 3 £7500 is toppy but not unreasonable.
£2.5k per room for mattresses and bedding “a bit toppy”.
When last did you lot buy bed linen?

4 feather pillows - £200
Winter duvet: £200
Summer duvet: £150
Throw/blanket - £150
2 x cotton duvet covers - £200
2 x 400 thread count (barely hotel quality) cotton fitted sheets - £150
8 x cotton pillow cases - £240
Total: £1290

x 3 bedrooms: £3880.00

£1200 per bed doesn't seem that extravagant now, does it?

Even £2500 (2 bedrooms instead of 3) for a good mattress isn't crazy IMO.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:01 pm
One small column on page 7 and not particularly exciting. Hope they've got a decent follow up!
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Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:36 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:32 pm
Openside wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 pm

How may rooms does this place have?? if its 3 £7500 is toppy but not unreasonable.
£2.5k per room for mattresses and bedding “a bit toppy”.
When last did you lot buy bed linen?

4 feather pillows - £200
Winter duvet: £200
Summer duvet: £150
Throw/blanket - £150
2 x cotton duvet covers - £200
2 x 400 thread count (barely hotel quality) cotton fitted sheets - £150
8 x cotton pillow cases - £240
Total: £1290

x 3 bedrooms: £3880.00

£1200 per bed doesn't seem that extravagant now, does it?

Even £2500 (2 bedrooms instead of 3) for a good mattress isn't crazy IMO.
What were they sleeping on & under before now ?

Old copies of the Torygraph ?
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Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:36 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:32 pm
Openside wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 pm

How may rooms does this place have?? if its 3 £7500 is toppy but not unreasonable.
£2.5k per room for mattresses and bedding “a bit toppy”.
When last did you lot buy bed linen?

4 feather pillows - £200
Winter duvet: £200
Summer duvet: £150
Throw/blanket - £150
2 x cotton duvet covers - £200
2 x 400 thread count (barely hotel quality) cotton fitted sheets - £150
8 x cotton pillow cases - £240
Total: £1290

x 3 bedrooms: £3880.00

£1200 per bed doesn't seem that extravagant now, does it?

Even £2500 (2 bedrooms instead of 3) for a good mattress isn't crazy IMO.
You don't appear to have costed in a mattress at all?
They are not cheap, well a decent, supportive one anyway
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i remember gobby posting a bed he'd "bought" that came in at 12k
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:00 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:36 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:32 pm
£2.5k per room for mattresses and bedding “a bit toppy”.
When last did you lot buy bed linen?

4 feather pillows - £200
Winter duvet: £200
Summer duvet: £150
Throw/blanket - £150
2 x cotton duvet covers - £200
2 x 400 thread count (barely hotel quality) cotton fitted sheets - £150
8 x cotton pillow cases - £240
Total: £1290

x 3 bedrooms: £3880.00

£1200 per bed doesn't seem that extravagant now, does it?

Even £2500 (2 bedrooms instead of 3) for a good mattress isn't crazy IMO.
What were they sleeping on & under before now ?

Old copies of the Torygraph ?
That, but also, why are doubling up on all the sheets, pillowcases? That's a totally savable £295 right off the bat.
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Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:14 pm i remember gobby posting a bed he'd "bought" that came in at 12k
Well he would wouldn't he?
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:27 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:00 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:36 pm

When last did you lot buy bed linen?

4 feather pillows - £200
Winter duvet: £200
Summer duvet: £150
Throw/blanket - £150
2 x cotton duvet covers - £200
2 x 400 thread count (barely hotel quality) cotton fitted sheets - £150
8 x cotton pillow cases - £240
Total: £1290

x 3 bedrooms: £3880.00

£1200 per bed doesn't seem that extravagant now, does it?

Even £2500 (2 bedrooms instead of 3) for a good mattress isn't crazy IMO.
What were they sleeping on & under before now ?

Old copies of the Torygraph ?
That, but also, why are doubling up on all the sheets, pillowcases? That's a totally savable £295 right off the bat.
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