This is part of it (and how we handle him going forward is crucial), but the other half is that he bowled a lot of rubbish to pick up wickets in Sri Lanka, the Indian batsmen are a step up and less likely to hit long hops to cover.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:18 amI for one am very surprised that the young spinner who did fine in Sri Lanka and then got messed around including a huge vote of no-confidence when England begged Moeen to stay is having a tough time.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:17 am Very disappointing hour. India put under no pressure whatsoever.
Comes back to the 'we should have played two spinners' argument - Bess started the rot after tea because he's not good enough. 'If I was England I would simply pick a second world class spinner' isn't viable.
It's more than just whether he should have been picked. It's about how he's managed.
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Pant is a hell of a player.
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Pammy gets Pant for 101
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Oh, he's a fine player and I'm not even remotely upset about England's utterly predictable mire they find themselves in. I just found it very silly that a guy who'd been slogging so much was so angry about finally getting his comeuppance - he reacted like he'd put in a 7-hour marathon session only to fall with safety in sight, not someone who constantly rode his luck and bagged a hundred.
Performative angst.
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Real shame how we've fallen away there. Probably end up losing by an innings now.
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Pant really is a gift name for sports headline writers... Pant's off, Pant's down, Pant's accident
if you have a mental age of 15 like me
if you have a mental age of 15 like me
Liar, liar ...tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:30 pm Pant really is a gift name for sports headline writers... Pant's off, Pant's down, Pant's accident
if you have a mental age of 15 like me
I drink and I forget things.
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this game will be done today.
10/2 and drama every other ball.
Root survives a close shout.
10/2 and drama every other ball.
Root survives a close shout.
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30/4
Stokes sweeps to leg slip
Stokes sweeps to leg slip
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Given up watching. The batting application is so poor.
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Lawrence batted very well for his 50.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:13 am Given up watching. The batting application is so poor.
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Could be interesting - conditions are good for NZ's seam attack and wickets do take spin as well.
But it is almost a home series for India - the support for them will be huge (if crowds are allowed in).
Should be good.
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Should be a cracker. Fingers crossed there’ll be a crowd in, would definitely go to that
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Bairstow just didn’t want to be there did he. Very disappointing
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And yet he acts like it's his god given right to play test cricket.
Piss poor by England. Dobell has a typically incisive piece on this, and even he can't cover everything that's wrong:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/indi ... em-1253895
Piss poor by England. Dobell has a typically incisive piece on this, and even he can't cover everything that's wrong:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/indi ... em-1253895
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Stating the bleedin' obvious but tests 2 and 4 showed how miserably ill equipped Eng are to play on turning tracks against decent spinners.
It's the doubly blunt sword of
- no credible spin attack
- and batsmen who can't play spin
Of course, they are 2 sides of the same coin. Domestic cricket is not generating the conditions for decent spinners and so the bats don't get to play against them.
The irony is the Ahmedabad pitch was so awful, there was a chance that India made it such a lottery they might have lost. Must be end of Bairstow's career.
It's the doubly blunt sword of
- no credible spin attack
- and batsmen who can't play spin
Of course, they are 2 sides of the same coin. Domestic cricket is not generating the conditions for decent spinners and so the bats don't get to play against them.
The irony is the Ahmedabad pitch was so awful, there was a chance that India made it such a lottery they might have lost. Must be end of Bairstow's career.
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Never missed Bob Willis more. Imagine the post series Verdict
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Excellent start from India - 2/2 in the 3rd over.
If you enjoy watching fervent Indian cricket crowds collectively cry - then this might be the game for you.
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