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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:39 pm
by Oxbow
Saints players dropping like flies. Coles is a big loss when there are uncontested scrums.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:01 pm
by JM2K6
Another lovely Dombrandt line. Mad that we're only two points behind.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:04 pm
by Kawazaki
Dombrandt is a naturally big bloke isn't he. I imagine he really struggles to keep his weight down which is quite normal with the big lads. He reminds me of Nick Easter but with more gas and more size.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:09 pm
by JM2K6
Looks like Saints gassed themselves

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:10 pm
by Tichtheid
Healy has taken a shine to Huw Jones

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:18 pm
by Oxbow
Well that's a red.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:18 pm
by Tichtheid
Was there head contact there?

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:18 pm
by JM2K6
Right decision by the letter of the law but he's always hitting upwards, we have to cut this stuff out.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:19 pm
by JM2K6
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:10 pm Healy has taken a shine to Huw Jones
No one has told the BT guys he played a load of fullback last season

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:21 pm
by Kawazaki
Glad that wasn't a red. Most of the energy of the tackle appeared to hit the ball.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:21 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:19 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:10 pm Healy has taken a shine to Huw Jones
No one has told the BT guys he played a load of fullback last season



Now we have power plays in rugby ffs

I used to watch ice hockey but really ?

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:22 pm
by Openside
Oxbow wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:18 pm Well that's a red.
Had saints player not fallen over would have been red - correct call.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:29 pm
by JM2K6
For all Mitchell's talent, this is far from the first time I've seen him put in a great half then be too gassed to do anything else

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:42 pm
by JM2K6
That's a shocking decision against Wallace.

Saints take the lead from an invented penalty. That's annoying.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:45 pm
by Oxbow
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:42 pm That's a shocking decision against Wallace.
Yeah, was a poor decision, but I'll take it. Saints can still find a way to fuck it up.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:46 pm
by JM2K6
Oxbow wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:45 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:42 pm That's a shocking decision against Wallace.
Yeah, was a poor decision, but I'll take it. Saints can still find a way to fuck it up.
We were the beneficiary of a big miss with the Tizard non red card so I can't be too upset. Plus I think he just evened it up a bit with that call on the touchline, looked a clear holding on pen

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:47 pm
by Openside
Quins have coughed this up sadly

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:48 pm
by JM2K6
Yeah that's another fucking shocker of a call. Get off the pitch, Carley, you grandstanding cunt.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:50 pm
by Deveron Boy
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:48 pm Yeah that's another fucking shocker of a call. Get off the pitch, Carley, you grandstanding cunt.
He’s completely incapable of building any sort of working relationship with the players

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:51 pm
by Tichtheid
Fair play to Healey for his "The Sanatogen is being flung all over the stand here" comment

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:52 pm
by JM2K6
All over. Well done Saints. Obviously a totally different game after half time, but did just enough. Quins can't afford to play like that first half against anyone, really. Shame about all the injuries, though they hurt Quins on the day as well with the uncontested scrums!

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:53 pm
by Kawazaki
Even if Saints get manshamed by Saracens, they only need to beat Newcastle at home now to finish above Exeter.

Image

:wave:

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:55 pm
by Oxbow
Saints a bit lucky there at the end, Quins can feel hard done by. It's worrying how Saints seem to gas after about 50 minutes every game.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:03 pm
by Brazil
Carley refs in the manner of someone who was given a wedgie by the first XV at school.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm
by sockwithaticket
Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:06 pm
by JM2K6
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.
Oh yes, it's very amusing. Still, it's an absolute wanker move to wave a yellow card at a player, then yell at them to come back, then threaten them with a red if they don't, I dunno, get off the pitch? Then send him to the sidelines.

Not exactly a cool headed bit of officiating.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:07 pm
by Tichtheid
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.
All scrum halfs are wee shites, it's part of the job description, but Care seems a bit lacking in humour. He got really wound up by Ryan Wilson on a podcast of all things

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:08 pm
by mos_eisely_
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:19 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:10 pm Healy has taken a shine to Huw Jones
No one has told the BT guys he played a load of fullback last season
Or for s fair bit of his career outside the Premiership

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:08 pm
by JM2K6
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:07 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.
All scrum halfs are wee shites, it's part of the job description, but Care seems a bit lacking in humour. He got really wound up by Ryan Wilson on a podcast of all things
Yeah, but Wilson is genuinely a cunt.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:09 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:06 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.
Oh yes, it's very amusing. Still, it's an absolute wanker move to wave a yellow card at a player, then yell at them to come back, then threaten them with a red if they don't, I dunno, get off the pitch? Then send him to the sidelines.

Not exactly a cool headed bit of officiating.

To be fair you're supposed to go to the ref when summoned, marching off is a bit wanky

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:10 pm
by sockwithaticket
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:06 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.
Oh yes, it's very amusing. Still, it's an absolute wanker move to wave a yellow card at a player, then yell at them to come back, then threaten them with a red if they don't, I dunno, get off the pitch? Then send him to the sidelines.

Not exactly a cool headed bit of officiating.
For sure, whatever point Carley thought he was making really didn't need to be made with 10 seconds on the clock.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:11 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:08 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:07 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.
All scrum halfs are wee shites, it's part of the job description, but Care seems a bit lacking in humour. He got really wound up by Ryan Wilson on a podcast of all things
Yeah, but Wilson is genuinely a cunt.

I don't think that's true, he is a nightmare to play against, but I'm told he is a very good friend

Also, Ugo was on the same podcast and he thought Wilson was hilarious, so much so he invited him back

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:14 pm
by Kawazaki
Show the referee respect.

Fuck Danny Care.

:thumbup:

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 pm
by sockwithaticket
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:07 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 pm Care surpassing Archer as yellow cards in a season record holder is funny tbf.
All scrum halfs are wee shites, it's part of the job description, but Care seems a bit lacking in humour. He got really wound up by Ryan Wilson on a podcast of all things
For all that, none of the rest get carded so often. It's also pretty funny that the guy he's taken over from likely accrued them all for fighting, whereas Care's are mostly things like deliberate knock ons or not rolling away. It's fitting, though, that the one to put him ahead was for being gobby.

Also, Wilson's a real prick* and I quite respect Care for not pretending to be all buddy buddy just because they were being recorded.

*I'm sure he's great if he's your mate, but a lot of people seem to dislike him a fair bit.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 pm
by JM2K6
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:11 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:08 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:07 pm

All scrum halfs are wee shites, it's part of the job description, but Care seems a bit lacking in humour. He got really wound up by Ryan Wilson on a podcast of all things
Yeah, but Wilson is genuinely a cunt.

I don't think that's true, he is a nightmare to play against, but I'm told he is a very good friend

Also, Ugo was on the same podcast and he thought Wilson was hilarious, so much so he invited him back
That makes sense. Ugo's a terrible judge of everything..have heard from multiple sources that Wilson's a cunt, and he certainly behaved like it against England.

The two guys he assaulted on a night out probably don't think he's a good friend, either.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:21 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:11 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:08 pm

Yeah, but Wilson is genuinely a cunt.

I don't think that's true, he is a nightmare to play against, but I'm told he is a very good friend

Also, Ugo was on the same podcast and he thought Wilson was hilarious, so much so he invited him back
That makes sense. Ugo's a terrible judge of everything..have heard from multiple sources that Wilson's a cunt, and he certainly behaved like it against England.

The two guys he assaulted on a night out probably don't think he's a good friend, either.

I knew that was coming, I'm not going to defend it, he got into a fight in a kebab shop whilst dressed as Batman, Sean Maitland was dressed as a pencil and there were others too.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:22 pm
by JM2K6
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:21 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:11 pm


I don't think that's true, he is a nightmare to play against, but I'm told he is a very good friend

Also, Ugo was on the same podcast and he thought Wilson was hilarious, so much so he invited him back
That makes sense. Ugo's a terrible judge of everything..have heard from multiple sources that Wilson's a cunt, and he certainly behaved like it against England.

The two guys he assaulted on a night out probably don't think he's a good friend, either.

I knew that was coming, I'm not going to defend it, he got into a fight in a kebab shop whilst dressed as Batman, Sean Maitland was dressed as a pencil and there were others too.
I'm familiar with the amusement value of a scrap in fancy dress (Will Skinner vs Justin Harrison) but he assaulted one guy then another a few minutes later - bit more than just getting into a fight.

And they found both to be unprovoked attacks, so...

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:28 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:22 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:21 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 pm

That makes sense. Ugo's a terrible judge of everything..have heard from multiple sources that Wilson's a cunt, and he certainly behaved like it against England.

The two guys he assaulted on a night out probably don't think he's a good friend, either.

I knew that was coming, I'm not going to defend it, he got into a fight in a kebab shop whilst dressed as Batman, Sean Maitland was dressed as a pencil and there were others too.
I'm familiar with the amusement value of a scrap in fancy dress (Will Skinner vs Justin Harrison) but he assaulted one guy then another a few minutes later - bit more than just getting into a fight.

It wasn't much more, the comments came from the others in the shop regarding the fancy dress, it was after a Glasgow team do, that provoked a scrap. The guy who made the comments got quite badly hurt. He was also a rugby player for an amateur team in Glasgow.

This is getting away from the point that Wilson wound Care up with relative ease, as he did England players in the tunnel before a match. I don't recall the details of that, but I seem to recall that he was reacting rather than initiating - though I'm open to correction there

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:50 pm
by Kawazaki
Derek Trotter sounds more Scottish than Ryan Wilson.

The Scottish team has barely any Scottish players in it anymore!

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:53 pm
by JM2K6
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:28 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:22 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:21 pm


I knew that was coming, I'm not going to defend it, he got into a fight in a kebab shop whilst dressed as Batman, Sean Maitland was dressed as a pencil and there were others too.
I'm familiar with the amusement value of a scrap in fancy dress (Will Skinner vs Justin Harrison) but he assaulted one guy then another a few minutes later - bit more than just getting into a fight.

It wasn't much more, the comments came from the others in the shop regarding the fancy dress, it was after a Glasgow team do, that provoked a scrap. The guy who made the comments got quite badly hurt. He was also a rugby player for an amateur team in Glasgow.

This is getting away from the point that Wilson wound Care up with relative ease, as he did England players in the tunnel before a match. I don't recall the details of that, but I seem to recall that he was reacting rather than initiating - though I'm open to correction there
The court literally found that both attacks were unprovoked, I don't think this is worth defending.

Wilson's been a prick for some time, I'm not going to blame anyone for getting sick of him. Care was a hothead on the pitch when he was younger so I'm not surprised he reacted you a guy known for his carrying on off the pitch as much as being a cunt on it.