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Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:13 pm
by Tichtheid
Munster were going for the lineout on the half way - the first time I ever saw that was France doing it against us and Serge Blanco running in unopposed because everyone assumed there would be a scrum.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:15 pm
by Tichtheid
What a half of rugby!

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:15 pm
by Mahoney
What a great half of rugby

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:54 pm
by Mahoney
Lovely try again

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:55 pm
by Tichtheid
Mahoney wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:54 pm Lovely try again

Ripper

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:01 pm
by Tichtheid
Mike Adamson gets a lot of criticism, but I think he's been good today

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:03 pm
by JM2K6
That offload off the floor was more forward than an Amsterdam red light girl

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:06 pm
by JM2K6
Horrible kick by Smith. He's had a couple of iffy moments this half, surprisingly

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:09 pm
by JM2K6
That
Is
Some
Finish

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:09 pm
by Paddington Bear
Superb from Hendy. That’s the game

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:09 pm
by Tichtheid
He has no right to score that.

Brilliant

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:10 pm
by Tichtheid
Some will say he should have been tackled, but I prefer to give credit to the quality of the attack

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:11 pm
by Mahoney
He was never going to get that kick away

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:19 pm
by Tichtheid
Good game, difficult to argue with the result.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:19 pm
by Mahoney
Saints are really very impressive. Great win.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:22 pm
by JM2K6
Near ideal game of rugby. Lovely stuff.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:09 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Curwin Bosch can't do that.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:20 pm
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:09 pm Curwin Bosch can't do that.
Imagine. Passing the ball. Something someone decided not to do with De Wet outside him. Therefore the Stormers loss. Can't be selfish

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:26 pm
by Sards
Great kick....from the angle against the touch line. Something someone couldn't do from close in. Oh well

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:43 pm
by Sards
Etsebeth. Who's he....Corne is the future. At least he is available

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:58 pm
by _Os_
Disappointing the Cheetahs and Lions dropped out of the klein koppie in close-ish matches. Sharks would have to fall apart to not meet Edinburgh in the quarters now, they're sharp ball in hand. It's turned into a big comp for the Sharks given how the URC went.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:08 pm
by Sards
Fassi the Weekend special

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:14 pm
by Sards
A 5 meter scrum called from a free kick.

What magic is this

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:25 pm
by Sards
How tight is the Zebras number 10s pants

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:38 pm
by Sards
Curwin gets the try

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:40 pm
by fishfoodie
Stormers the only home team to not get the W in the round.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:41 pm
by Sards
Oh my word. What a try from Curwin

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:06 pm
by Sards
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:40 pm Stormers the only home team to not get the W in the round.
Sharks and Bulls to fly the South African flag next weekend.
Stormers, Lions and Cheetahs out. Bulls have a tough one against the Saints on the road. Sharks against Edinburgh at home.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:35 pm
by SaintK
Mahoney wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:19 pm Saints are really very impressive. Great win.
Bollocks
Forgot to record it and can’t find it on catch up

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:00 pm
by fishfoodie
French directory playing silly buggers again in Connachts game against Pau

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:41 pm
by OomStruisbaai
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:40 pm Stormers the only home team to not get the W in the round.
Good thing for the Stormers. A lot of injuries , Fourie probably out for the season.

Jake White also complaining about the travel arrangements.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:47 am
by assfly
Nice result for the $harks. Against a rather piss-poor team, but hey-ho. I wonder what sort of a team Edinburgh are going to send out, considering they barely just unpacked their bags. Given they are only 1 point away from automatic qualification in the URC, I wouldn't be surprised if they send the kids.

I don't think anybody played badly. But great to see Masuku take the ball up like he does. It doesn't always come off, but it such a change from what we have become used to seeing Bosch do.

Pity about the crowd, but playing on a Sunday afternoon is just weird.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:21 am
by Blake
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:41 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:40 pm Stormers the only home team to not get the W in the round.
Good thing for the Stormers. A lot of injuries , Fourie probably out for the season.

Jake White also complaining about the travel arrangements.
Ja, win or lose, our ICC and URC campaigns were both over after the second half of that match.

Not sure yet what the extent of everybody's injuries are but losing Fourie, BJD, Diyamani, Moerat and Zas in one match is a massive blow. Willemse has also gone down for ankle 2 weeks in a row now.

We just don't currently have the depth in our contracted squad to absorb losses like that. Not on the shoestring budget we've been running for the last 2-3 years. Dobbo is going to have to throw some young forwards into the deep end and hope they swim. At least Xaba and Pokomela have been developing nicely, so they will get some more chances, but I wonder who they will bring in for Moerat if be needs a couple of weeks rest?

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:36 am
by OomStruisbaai
Blake wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:21 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:41 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:40 pm Stormers the only home team to not get the W in the round.
Good thing for the Stormers. A lot of injuries , Fourie probably out for the season.

Jake White also complaining about the travel arrangements.
Ja, win or lose, our ICC and URC campaigns were both over after the second half of that match.

Not sure yet what the extent of everybody's injuries are but losing Fourie, BJD, Diyamani, Moerat and Zas in one match is a massive blow. Willemse has also gone down for ankle 2 weeks in a row now.

We just don't currently have the depth in our contracted squad to absorb losses like that. Not on the shoestring budget we've been running for the last 2-3 years. Dobbo is going to have to throw some young forwards into the deep end and hope they swim. At least Xaba and Pokomela have been developing nicely, so they will get some more chances, but I wonder who they will bring in for Moerat if be needs a couple of weeks rest?
BJD is a big loss, hope he is back soon. Xaba is very important. He is ready to step up. Willemse is head and shoulder above anyone else. World class player. We cant afford to lose him but I would like to see SMZ step up. He can be our main kicker.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:32 am
by Blake
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:36 am Willemse is head and shoulder above anyone else. World class player. We cant afford to lose him but I would like to see SMZ step up. He can be our main kicker.
We are so stacked in the backs at the moment that it's going to be tricky to find a spot for Sasha, but I agree, we need him in the mix somewhere. His goal kicking is going to become more and more vital.

Where would you slot him in though?
Manie is locked in at 10.
12 is Dan Dup and Willemse if we want Galant at 15
13 is Similane and Hartzenberg (or Dan Dup if Willemse is at 12)
11 and 14 we have Zas, Loader and Hartzenberg (and Angelo Davids when he gets back)
15 Willemse and Galant

So it's really hard to find a regular starting slot for Sasha unfortunately.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:43 am
by OomStruisbaai
Blake wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:32 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:36 am Willemse is head and shoulder above anyone else. World class player. We cant afford to lose him but I would like to see SMZ step up. He can be our main kicker.
We are so stacked in the backs at the moment that it's going to be tricky to find a spot for Sasha, but I agree, we need him in the mix somewhere. His goal kicking is going to become more and more vital.

Where would you slot him in though?
Manie is locked in at 10.
12 is Dan Dup and Willemse if we want Galant at 15
13 is Similane and Hartzenberg (or Dan Dup if Willemse is at 12)
11 and 14 we have Zas, Loader and Hartzenberg (and Angelo Davids when he gets back)
15 Willemse and Galant

So it's really hard to find a regular starting slot for Sasha unfortunately.
I agree on all your selections.

He should be the replacement for Damian Willemse and Libbok with Jurie Mathee. We also have the Prince as backup for 10/12. These players however need to play at some stage. Thought Angelo Davids is back, specially now with Zas out for the season.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:53 am
by Blake
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:43 am He should be the replacement for Damian Willemse and Libbok with Jurie Mathee. We also have the Prince as backup for 10/12. These players however need to play at some stage. Thought Angelo Davids is back, specially now with Zas out for the season.
Ja, I'm not so worried about our backs. If Manie or Willemse get a long term injury it will be the most disruptive. They are our 2 most valuable backline players.

We are very light on Bok quality fatties. Brannas is on his last legs unfortunately and he was (is!) key to our success. Once he went off La Rochelle killed us at our breakdown and had a lot of phases to get their fatties running over us again and again. At least Xaba is quite strong on the floor, so we'll need him to step up bigtime.

With BJD and possibly Moerat out our already wobbly lineout is fucked. Kitsie also needs to get home as soon as possible. We can't keep playing Oupa Brok for 60-70 mins. After Big Frans and Fouche we are very light on fatties.

Hooker is interesting. Kotze and AHV are streets ahead of Dweba. I hope Dobbo is just waiting on his contract to run out so we can cut him loose. He's been a massive dud and drain on our salary bill.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:27 am
by OomStruisbaai
Blake wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:53 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:43 am He should be the replacement for Damian Willemse and Libbok with Jurie Mathee. We also have the Prince as backup for 10/12. These players however need to play at some stage. Thought Angelo Davids is back, specially now with Zas out for the season.
Ja, I'm not so worried about our backs. If Manie or Willemse get a long term injury it will be the most disruptive. They are our 2 most valuable backline players.

We are very light on Bok quality fatties. Brannas is on his last legs unfortunately and he was (is!) key to our success. Once he went off La Rochelle killed us at our breakdown and had a lot of phases to get their fatties running over us again and again. At least Xaba is quite strong on the floor, so we'll need him to step up bigtime.

With BJD and possibly Moerat out our already wobbly lineout is fucked. Kitsie also needs to get home as soon as possible. We can't keep playing Oupa Brok for 60-70 mins. After Big Frans and Fouche we are very light on fatties.

Hooker is interesting. Kotze and AHV are streets ahead of Dweba. I hope Dobbo is just waiting on his contract to run out so we can cut him loose. He's been a massive dud and drain on our salary bill.
Surprised there was more then 30,000 on saturday. Derbin and Loftus looked empty.

This two weeks break is just what the docter ordered.

Will be interesting to see who will win Europe.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:53 pm
by bok_viking
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:27 am
Blake wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:53 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:43 am He should be the replacement for Damian Willemse and Libbok with Jurie Mathee. We also have the Prince as backup for 10/12. These players however need to play at some stage. Thought Angelo Davids is back, specially now with Zas out for the season.
Ja, I'm not so worried about our backs. If Manie or Willemse get a long term injury it will be the most disruptive. They are our 2 most valuable backline players.

We are very light on Bok quality fatties. Brannas is on his last legs unfortunately and he was (is!) key to our success. Once he went off La Rochelle killed us at our breakdown and had a lot of phases to get their fatties running over us again and again. At least Xaba is quite strong on the floor, so we'll need him to step up bigtime.

With BJD and possibly Moerat out our already wobbly lineout is fucked. Kitsie also needs to get home as soon as possible. We can't keep playing Oupa Brok for 60-70 mins. After Big Frans and Fouche we are very light on fatties.

Hooker is interesting. Kotze and AHV are streets ahead of Dweba. I hope Dobbo is just waiting on his contract to run out so we can cut him loose. He's been a massive dud and drain on our salary bill.
Surprised there was more then 30,000 on saturday. Derbin and Loftus looked empty.

This two weeks break is just what the docter ordered.

Will be interesting to see who will win Europe.
Yeah the Bulls crowd was very disappointing but the 1pm kickoffs are not very popular, you basically lose a day of activities with these midday kickoffs, specially if you go to the match from outside of Pretoria, which a lot of people do, including me. But it is also the timeframe where all the schools are playing so, you are going to lose all those supporters in this time period, Affies played at the same time had a bigger crowd than the Bulls on Saturday I believe. So if the Bulls game was at 3pm a lot of those people most likely would have gone to the Bulls game if going by history of the school games and Bulls games that happen on the same days. It is just does not make sense to have games that early in SA when there are a lot of school sports, etc going on. But it is all about the TV money and when the TV people can fit you in unfortunately.

Next weekend will be tough for the Bulls, travelling from Europe to play 1 game in SA just to go back again for the next one, then traveling back to SA the week after for the game against Munster, would have been better just to play Lyon in France in this case. Might be a good time for Munster to play the Bulls at Loftus. Will be interesting to see how White picks the team this week and next.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:06 pm
by OomStruisbaai
bok_viking wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:53 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:27 am
Blake wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:53 am

Ja, I'm not so worried about our backs. If Manie or Willemse get a long term injury it will be the most disruptive. They are our 2 most valuable backline players.

We are very light on Bok quality fatties. Brannas is on his last legs unfortunately and he was (is!) key to our success. Once he went off La Rochelle killed us at our breakdown and had a lot of phases to get their fatties running over us again and again. At least Xaba is quite strong on the floor, so we'll need him to step up bigtime.

With BJD and possibly Moerat out our already wobbly lineout is fucked. Kitsie also needs to get home as soon as possible. We can't keep playing Oupa Brok for 60-70 mins. After Big Frans and Fouche we are very light on fatties.

Hooker is interesting. Kotze and AHV are streets ahead of Dweba. I hope Dobbo is just waiting on his contract to run out so we can cut him loose. He's been a massive dud and drain on our salary bill.
Surprised there was more then 30,000 on saturday. Derbin and Loftus looked empty.

This two weeks break is just what the docter ordered.

Will be interesting to see who will win Europe.
Yeah the Bulls crowd was very disappointing but the 1pm kickoffs are not very popular, you basically lose a day of activities with these midday kickoffs, specially if you go to the match from outside of Pretoria, which a lot of people do, including me. But it is also the timeframe where all the schools are playing so, you are going to lose all those supporters in this time period, Affies played at the same time had a bigger crowd than the Bulls on Saturday I believe. So if the Bulls game was at 3pm a lot of those people most likely would have gone to the Bulls game if going by history of the school games and Bulls games that happen on the same days. It is just does not make sense to have games that early in SA when there are a lot of school sports, etc going on. But it is all about the TV money and when the TV people can fit you in unfortunately.

Next weekend will be tough for the Bulls, travelling from Europe to play 1 game in SA just to go back again for the next one, then traveling back to SA the week after for the game against Munster, would have been better just to play Lyon in France in this case. Might be a good time for Munster to play the Bulls at Loftus. Will be interesting to see how White picks the team this week and next.
Yep the big Bulls derby was on Saturday. Garsies vs Affies.