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Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:40 am
by sockwithaticket
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:55 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:43 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:01 pm
Ease up on the misogyny there, sunshine.
Negative gendered terms aren't misogynistic (or misandrist). I have issue with a particular female presenter, not all female presenters. Sara Elgan and Jill Douglas are always welcome as part of BT/TNT's coverage.
If you'd used a negative epithet targeted at someone's skin colour or race you'd have been rightly dragged over the coals for it.
You could have said something about not liking that presenter, but you didn't. You chose to use an epithet that is derogatory towards women, there is no connotation of that word which is positive.
The doubling down and attempt at excusing your use of language is not a good look at all. It would reflect better on you to just admit the use of the term was poor judgement and move on from there.
It's one of the issues I still have with the rugby world, it been getting better and better over the near fifty years I've been involved with rugby, but this sexism is still not acceptable.
We have threads on this board which are just pictures of women's breasts and another one for arses, ffs
I'll take my cues on what's acceptable from the women in my life who actively use the term rather than a rando on the internet tbh.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:02 am
by PornDog
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:55 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:43 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:01 pm
Ease up on the misogyny there, sunshine.
Negative gendered terms aren't misogynistic (or misandrist). I have issue with a particular female presenter, not all female presenters. Sara Elgan and Jill Douglas are always welcome as part of BT/TNT's coverage.
If you'd used a negative epithet targeted at someone's skin colour or race you'd have been rightly dragged over the coals for it.
You could have said something about not liking that presenter, but you didn't. You chose to use an epithet that is derogatory towards women, there is no connotation of that word which is positive.
The doubling down and attempt at excusing your use of language is not a good look at all. It would reflect better on you to just admit the use of the term was poor judgement and move on from there.
It's one of the issues I still have with the rugby world, it been getting better and better over the near fifty years I've been involved with rugby, but this sexism is still not acceptable.
We have threads on this board which are just pictures of women's breasts and another one for arses, ffs
I don't know man. It's certainly rude and offensive and frankly way over the top for describing someone who's talking on the TV and not ripping off your granny's pension or whatever. However I don't agree that gender specific insults, when aimed at an individual, are misogynistic in nature. That word cannot be used to describe all women after all. Should "bitch" be treated the same, or "Dick" when talking about a man?
"Bitches be crazy" - facetious, but certainly has its misogynistic tones
"That bitch is crazy" - most certainly crude and insulting, but not mysoginistic
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:07 am
by SaintK
Ovals wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:47 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:35 am
Have to say I'm thoroughly underwhelmed about this years competition.
Can't see Saints qualifying, in fact Bayonne at home looks like their only potential win.
I think you might have been a bit too pessimistic. Superb win in Glasgow - Saints are playing really well atm. And also a decent side to watch.
Great win!
There's an edge to Saints this season to go with the attacking intent. They should be wwell pleased with that win.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:47 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Zebre 3-16 Cheetahs HT.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:02 pm
by Blake
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:26 pm
DHL Stormers vs Leicester Tigers: 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Courtnall Skosan, 13 Suleiman Hartzenberg, 12 Jean-Luc du Plessis, 11 Ben Loader, 10 Jurie Matthee, 9 Paul de Wet, 8 Keke Morabe, 7 Willie Engelbrecht, 6 Nama Xaba, 5 Connor Evans, 4 Hendre Stassen, 3 Brok Harris (captain), 2 Scarra Ntubeni, 1 Sti Sithole.
Replacements: 16: JJ Kotze, 17 Kwenzo Blose, 18 Lee-Marvin Mazibuko, 19 Dylan Sjoblom, 20 Junior Pokomela, 21 Marcel Theunissen, 22 Stefan Ungerer, 23 Cornel Smit.
Oof…that team is going to get spit roasted. Wonder what Dobbo is thinking, because I don’t see it.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:38 pm
by C69
Exeter look very good with kids
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:48 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Zebre 15-33 Cheetahs
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:51 pm
by C69
Balls of steel Exeter well done
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:53 pm
by sockwithaticket
Going down to Toulon and gutsing out a win at the death like that is huge for such a young side.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Sharks next up
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:33 pm
by TheNatalShark
I assume Pay sent a weakened team. For all the effort and speed the Sharks are playing with, Pau have little coordination and are giving easy metres.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:36 pm
by bok_viking
Rugby definitely seem to get more popular. My brother just informed me that the Bulls vs Saracens game is on tv in Denmark. First time that he can actually watch a bulls game there without needing to find a working stream online

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:10 pm
by _Os_
Sharks are giving Poes a klap. I have my chest puffed out.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:23 pm
by _Os_
TheNatalShark wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:33 pm
I assume Pay sent a weakened team. For all the effort and speed the Sharks are playing with, Pau have little coordination and are giving easy metres.
You have too much grumpy Natal Scottish in you, and not enough confident Natal German ancestry.
"Oh no, Poes picked a side, oh no the weather, we're not good enough", no more of this weakness Natal Scotsman! Harden up. Head up, shoulders back, chest out, stomach in.
... Am is having his way with Poes, they cannot stop him.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:27 pm
by Slick
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:53 pm
Going down to Toulon and gutsing out a win at the death like that is huge for such a young side.
How did Kinghorn do?
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:28 pm
by Slick
Slick wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:27 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:53 pm
Going down to Toulon and gutsing out a win at the death like that is huge for such a young side.
How did Kinghorn do?
Toulouse not Toulon, ignore me
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:50 pm
by sockwithaticket
Not surprised Obano is causing Moore problems. Even for a prop the latter looks like a pub team player, rather than a professional athlete.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
by TheNatalShark
_Os_ wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:23 pm
You have too much grumpy Natal Scottish in you, and not enough confident Natal German ancestry.
"Oh no, Poes picked a side, oh no the weather, we're not good enough", no more of this weakness Natal Scotsman! Harden up. Head up, shoulders back, chest out, stomach in.
... Am is having his way with Poes, they cannot stop him.
Nah its standard the Sharks have played well with a lot of energy, against an opponent that couldn't offer much in response. So *shrugs*
Not sure how a performance like this got a 40 point mailing from the Bulls
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
by OomStruisbaai
URC teams losing in the Champions Cup. Hope the Bulls and Munster get us out of the slump
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:26 pm
by _Os_
TheNatalShark wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
_Os_ wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:23 pm
You have too much grumpy Natal Scottish in you, and not enough confident Natal German ancestry.
"Oh no, Poes picked a side, oh no the weather, we're not good enough", no more of this weakness Natal Scotsman! Harden up. Head up, shoulders back, chest out, stomach in.
... Am is having his way with Poes, they cannot stop him.
Nah its standard the Sharks have played well with a lot of energy, against an opponent that couldn't offer much in response. So *shrugs*
Not sure how a performance like this got a 40 point mailing from the Bulls
I'm shaking my head whilst I read this. Enjoy the win!
Last week was a hard match to watch, but the Bulls are getting close to reaching one of their peaks where they become unplayable in SA. Lets see if Saracens can do anything against them.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:37 pm
by ASMO
Sarries gonna get reamed
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:46 pm
by ASMO
Sarries defence is nonexistent
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:51 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Saracens look a little lost in the Bull Ring.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:54 pm
by fishfoodie
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
URC teams losing in the Champions Cup. Hope the Bulls and Munster get us out of the slump
Well if Munster can avoid scrums they look like they might deliver tonight, now 14 - 3
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:54 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Saracens must not try to take on the Bulls physical, need to take it wide.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:54 pm
by ASMO
Billy V making negative yards again, he is the new Borthwick
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:00 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Yello coming up
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:02 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Excellent defense by Sarries
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:03 pm
by ASMO
Don't see that as a yellow, he stood his ground, he doesn't have to move out of the way
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:10 pm
by ASMO
Saracens attack as sharp as Liz Truss's intellect
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:14 pm
by OomStruisbaai
ASMO wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:03 pm
Don't see that as a yellow, he stood his ground, he doesn't have to move out of the way
You never know with the Italian ref. We are use to him.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:16 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Bulls again don't take points
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:17 pm
by ASMO
Fucking brainless by Itoje, Sarries down to 13
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:18 pm
by bok_viking
Farrell and Itoje are definitely not very popular here, have not heard the crowd boo 2 players that badly for a very long time here.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:19 pm
by ASMO
This game is over already, Bulls just need to secure the bonus point
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:21 pm
by bok_viking
Bulls should run at Saracens more, there are gaps to be exploited looking on from the stands. Bulls 11, 12, 13 and 14 seem to be faster than their counterparts. Louw seem to have found his position at 7. Another good game from him this season.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:22 pm
by _Os_
_Os_ wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:26 pm
I'm shaking my head whilst I read this. Enjoy the win!
Last week was a hard match to watch, but the Bulls are getting close to reaching one of their peaks where they become unplayable in SA. Lets see if Saracens can do anything against them.
Doesn't look like Saracens can do anything against them, they're hanging onto the game by their fingertips. Plenty of good sides go to Loftus, find a Bulls side in form and get run over.
Willie is so good, strand hond!

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:25 pm
by _Os_
bok_viking wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:18 pm
Farrell and Itoje are definitely not very popular here, have not heard the crowd boo 2 players that badly for a very long time here.
I still remember when the Bulls crowd (and probably the Bulls team) checked Luke Watson's manners so hard, that ol' Watson tried to wade into the crowd swinging!

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:30 pm
by _Os_
All time classic SA rugby photo.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:38 pm
by ASMO
Too easy