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Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
by JM2K6
Borthwick interviews like a crap MP. "I was very clear earlier in the week" "I've been very transparent" "everyone is on the same page, this is a team that sticks together"
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Sonja giving Borthwick a huge out there by describing the situation as one he inherited from Eddie Jones.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
by TheNatalShark
Really poor and flat start from Scotland, just running without doing anything
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:48 pm
by Ymx
Japan strike back
7-5
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:49 pm
by _Os_
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
Really poor and flat start from Scotland, just running without doing anything
Scots chucking loads of miss passes. Just means shovelling the ball to a player on the touchline who gets bundled out. Not showing Georgia any respect.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:50 pm
by Cartman
Georgia looks tidy
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:50 pm
by TheNatalShark
Scottish backs completely uninterested in this game
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:51 pm
by TheNatalShark
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:49 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
Really poor and flat start from Scotland, just running without doing anything
Scots chucking loads of miss passes. Just means shovelling the ball to a player on the touchline who gets bundled out. Not showing Georgia any respect.
Yes, looks classic "pitch up and we'll win" attitude.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:51 pm
by Slick
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
Really poor and flat start from Scotland, just running without doing anything
Yes, very flat and just going side to side. Georgia look a very decent team though. What group are they in?
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:53 pm
by PCPhil
As soon as Italy get Capuccino involved something happens. 12-5 Italy
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:53 pm
by TheNatalShark
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:51 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
Really poor and flat start from Scotland, just running without doing anything
Yes, very flat and just going side to side. Georgia look a very decent team though. What group are they in?
Aus/Wal/Fij
I don't think this Georgia team are that good actually
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:55 pm
by TheNatalShark
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:50 pm
Scottish backs completely uninterested in this game
Not sure if the backs have once actually committed to taking an up and under. 3 lost already without competition. Ridiculous stuff.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:55 pm
by Ymx
14-5
Try to Italy.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:56 pm
by Stranger
Georgia showing better skills than England
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:58 pm
by Insane_Homer
Hospital pass! Crunched.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:58 pm
by Slick
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:53 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:51 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:44 pm
Really poor and flat start from Scotland, just running without doing anything
Yes, very flat and just going side to side. Georgia look a very decent team though. What group are they in?
Aus/Wal/Fij
I don't think this Georgia team are that good actually
They’ve beaten Italy and Wales recently, they are not shit. That’s not to say we shouldn’t be controlling this of course, but I’m impressed with them so far
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:04 pm
by Insane_Homer
That's a knock on from Scotland, where they juggled that kick.went forward back into his own? player.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:04 pm
by _Os_
Could be the Scots are getting the ball wide asap, by being flat and throwing miss passes, because they're preparing to get around the Bok rush/outside in defence. Not doing so well against Georgia, because Georgia's defence is quite stand off, they've gone outside in sometimes, but mostly they're drifting and waiting for the Scots to run onto them. Scots look contained so far.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:04 pm
by TheNatalShark
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:58 pm
They’ve beaten Italy and Wales recently, they are not shit. That’s not to say we shouldn’t be controlling this of course, but I’m impressed with them so far
Don't think they're shit, but I think in the last few years the drop off in forwards is not matched by the gains in backs. In a wet weather game, like 2011 world cup, I don't think they have anything an organised T1 team should be worried about
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:04 pm
by Slick
I’m a big fan of Ollie Smith but feels like we are really missing the strike running of Kinghorn or Hogg
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:06 pm
by Ymx
Georgia 6-0 up ??? Wtf ?
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:08 pm
by Insane_Homer
No try. Dropped it
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:15 pm
by Cartman
Scots not looking too flash so far
Impressed by Georgia
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:18 pm
by _Os_
Joe Worsley coaching Georgia has kept Scotland to 0 at half time at Murrayfield on the eve of a RWC.
None of the best England coaches are involved with England.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:19 pm
by TheNatalShark
Feels a bit like a game too many for the starters, only Dempsey, Cherry and perhaps Bhatti/Tuipolotu putting their hands up.
Hopefully they switch on in the second half or subs do it, if the case not really concerned, otherwise we would just be hoping for a 60 minute drop off where the tackles slip and Duhan gets through.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:20 pm
by Ymx
Italy 17 - 11 Japan at HT
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
by _Os_
Ymx wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:20 pm
Italy 17 - 11 Japan at HT
Any thoughts?
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
by SaintK
Georgia playing with more verve and dynamism than England showed in 80 minutes!
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
by sockwithaticket
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:18 pm
Joe Worsley coaching Georgia has kept Scotland to 0 at half time at Murrayfield on the eve of a RWC.
None of the best England coaches are involved with England.
Joe Worlsey's done a solid job down in Bordeaux for years, but it's a bit premature to be putting him on a list of England's best coaches.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:24 pm
by Ymx
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
Ymx wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:20 pm
Italy 17 - 11 Japan at HT
Any thoughts?
It’s a close one. Plenty of scoring. I think I’m going to stick to it for the second half.
This weekend is suddenly making this RWC one heck of a lot more interesting.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:27 pm
by Cartman
Like someone said, this is already the best WC
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:31 pm
by _Os_
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:18 pm
Joe Worsley coaching Georgia has kept Scotland to 0 at half time at Murrayfield on the eve of a RWC.
None of the best England coaches are involved with England.
Joe Worlsey's done a solid job down in Bordeaux for years, but it's a bit premature to be putting him on a list of England's best coaches.
Best = shorthand for quite odd how England have coaches better than the coaching team they have picked, coaching other teams. Farrell at Ireland another. Edwards at France another.
The three of those together would be a good coaching team.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:34 pm
by Slick
How many times did Finn touch the ball in that phase!
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:34 pm
by _Os_
Scots have switched to short passes and running onto it, Georgia now have no chance. Shouldn't have needed half time and the coaches for them to work that out, unless they're playing to a set plan.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:35 pm
by JM2K6
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:18 pm
Joe Worsley coaching Georgia has kept Scotland to 0 at half time at Murrayfield on the eve of a RWC.
None of the best England coaches are involved with England.
Joe Worlsey's done a solid job down in Bordeaux for years, but it's a bit premature to be putting him on a list of England's best coaches.
He's certainly better than Sinfield
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:37 pm
by TheNatalShark
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:34 pm
Scots have switched to short passes and running onto it, Georgia now have no chance. Shouldn't have needed half time and the coaches for them to work that out, unless they're playing to a set plan.
Can't talk about betting apparently, but I should have put more on the +15 at HT
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:37 pm
by Slick
Fuck he’s good
Get him off!!
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:38 pm
by sockwithaticket
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:31 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:18 pm
Joe Worsley coaching Georgia has kept Scotland to 0 at half time at Murrayfield on the eve of a RWC.
None of the best England coaches are involved with England.
Joe Worlsey's done a solid job down in Bordeaux for years, but it's a bit premature to be putting him on a list of England's best coaches.
Best = shorthand for quite odd how England have coaches better than the coaching team they have picked, coaching other teams. Farrell at Ireland another. Edwards at France another.
The three of those together would be a good coaching team.
Part of the problem is that chucking Eddie when we did meant that there were very few coaches available when we needed them. Anyone good was already signed up somewhere else. The RFU are also bad at making their selections and offers. Sean Edwards has gone on record saying that in the past they weren't prepared to offer him a four year deal and France were, so he chose the team that seemed to believe in him and were willing to give steady employment.
Eddie seemed to prefer working with people who were not best in class - either rookies who would not challenge him or older ones who weren't flush with offers. These people were easy to keep under his thumb until they got fed up and left. That means none of his existing deputies were in a position to step up to fill his role as we see happen with many other countries.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:39 pm
by sockwithaticket
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:35 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm
_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:18 pm
Joe Worsley coaching Georgia has kept Scotland to 0 at half time at Murrayfield on the eve of a RWC.
None of the best England coaches are involved with England.
Joe Worlsey's done a solid job down in Bordeaux for years, but it's a bit premature to be putting him on a list of England's best coaches.
He's certainly better than Sinfield
Well, yes, but that's pretty much the definition of damning with faint praise.
Re: Pre WC fixtures - Sat 25th - En v Fj 15.15 - Sc v Ge 17.30 - Ir v Sm 19.45 - Sun Fra v Au 16.45
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:43 pm
by TheNatalShark
There we go, get them off.
Russell of as well