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Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:34 pm To be honest, if it had culture war cretin Badenoch's sticky fingers on it, deep sixing the trade deal might be to Labour's benefit.

Labour vote share falls to lowest in more than two years

Telegraph poll reveals gap between Sir Keir Starmer’s party and Conservatives now stands at 17 percentage points
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak warning that Sir Keir will "wreck Britain in just 100 days".

It's the Sunday Times, external which delivers a more surprising verdict, saying the Tories have, in effect, "forfeited their right to govern". Its editorial says the paper believes it's now the right time for Labour to be "entrusted with restoring competence to government".

"The exhausted Conservatives are neither up to it nor up for it. There comes a time when change is the only option," it says. The paper also carries, external a joint interview with Sir Keir and shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves, and says the pair are gearing up for a homebuilding blitz if they form the next government.

RTE wrote: UK election could herald a new political dawn in NI

This is yet another defining week for politics in Northern Ireland.

A week in which defeat for one party leader could help another make history.

A week that sees Northern Ireland's shortest-serving leader fighting for political survival, while another is aiming to bring his party in from the Westminster wilderness.

Five days that could see the centre ground continue to surge or be left empty-handed.

By early Friday morning, the votes will be counted and the results announced.

It is possible that despite much speculation and tight battles in several key seats the political landscape could remain unchanged.

But it is equally possible that the early morning sunrise could herald a new political dawn.

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tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:10 am "Project Fear II - The Sequel"

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak warning that Sir Keir will "wreck Britain in just 100 days".

Meanwhile

It's the Sunday Times, external which delivers a more surprising verdict, saying the Tories have, in effect, "forfeited their right to govern". Its editorial says the paper believes it's now the right time for Labour to be "entrusted with restoring competence to government".

"The exhausted Conservatives are neither up to it nor up for it. There comes a time when change is the only option," it says. The paper also carries, external a joint interview with Sir Keir and shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves, and says the pair are gearing up for a homebuilding blitz if they form the next government.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:56 pm Hilarious levels of copium

Labour vote share falls to lowest in more than two years

Telegraph poll reveals gap between Sir Keir Starmer’s party and Conservatives now stands at 17 percentage points
...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... servative/

It's amazing the bullshit you can generate when you do your own polls; but the fact is there are going to be a lot of hacks at the Torygraph that'll be royally fucked next Friday !

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:20 am Polling suggests Labour are going to take my seat. Which if borne out on Thursday is an utterly astonishing turn of events

Is this the end for Jacob Rees-Mogg? ‘I don’t know anyone my age who’s voting for him’
Polls suggest the divisive Tory’s 14-year stint as MP for North East Somerset may be coming to a close – but his mother still backs him

A succession of polls, which match national polling data to local demographics, suggest the 14-year Rees-Mogg era may be nearing its end. They indicate the instantly recognisable but divisive Conservative MP – known for his flapping double-breasted suits and striped shirts – is likely to receive between 25% and 35% of the vote in the new North East Somerset and Hanham constituency, while his Labour challenger, Dan Norris, who is the West of England metro mayor, could get between 40% and 45%.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... -rees-mogg

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:14 pm Going to be some karma for sure, *if the polls are right*

Is this the end for Jacob Rees-Mogg? ‘I don’t know anyone my age who’s voting for him’
Polls suggest the divisive Tory’s 14-year stint as MP for North East Somerset may be coming to a close – but his mother still backs him

A succession of polls, which match national polling data to local demographics, suggest the 14-year Rees-Mogg era may be nearing its end. They indicate the instantly recognisable but divisive Conservative MP – known for his flapping double-breasted suits and striped shirts – is likely to receive between 25% and 35% of the vote in the new North East Somerset and Hanham constituency, while his Labour challenger, Dan Norris, who is the West of England metro mayor, could get between 40% and 45%.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... -rees-mogg

Reform UK candidate disowns party and backs Tories
published at 16:30

A Reform UK election candidate has disowned the party and endorsed the local Conservative candidate instead.

Liam Booth-Isherwood, the Reform UK candidate for Erewash, said there is a “significant moral issue” in parts of the party following what he called “reports of widespread racism and sexism”.

He added the failure of the party’s leadership to address the issue means he no longer wants to be associated with it.

However, Booth-Isherwood's name will still appear on the ballot paper as the Reform UK candidate.

Reform UK have been approached for comment.

In a statement, Booth-Isherwood said that "over the past few weeks" he has become "increasingly disillusioned with the behaviour and conduct of Reform".

“Whilst I have campaigned alongside many decent, honest and hardworking people during the course of the General Election campaign in Erewash, the reports of widespread racism and sexism in Reform have made clear that there is a significant moral issue within certain elements of the party, and the failure of the Party’s leadership to not only take this matter seriously, but also to fundamentally address it, has made clear to me that this is no longer a party I want to be associated with," he added.

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:57 pm Had a couple of friends over for lunch. I knew he was a Tory voter in the past but asked him who he was voting for this time.

Started the answer saying how much Sunak had crushed Starmer in the debates, then on to not wanting to pay an extra £2k tax, so sticking Tory. I asked who the Tory candidate was, didn’t know. I asked which party the current MP was from, didn’t know.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:26 pm https://x.com/PickardJE/status/18071487 ... WyZ6w&s=19

epwc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:19 am Father in laws been in palliative care at ours for a month or so, so I’ve been exposed to lots of my white Essex family.

Yesterday he passed away, two of the carers that had been regularly coming in to look after him came back after their shift so that when the doctor had confirmed death they could wash him and dress him. Both Muslim, one from Nigeria the other from Bangladesh. They ended up talking election with one of my brother in laws, he’s voting reform. Why? Cos we’re just being overrun aren’t we? Health system can’t cope everything’s shagged cos of all these people coming over.

He said this sitting opposite me at my dining table, to two people that had been wiping his father in laws arse every day for the last four weeks.

This fella obviously voted Brexit.

Straight afterwards wife’s cousins husband started on about exactly the same things, thankfully the carers had gone by then. (Brexiteer, Covid denier, climate change denier)

I don’t honestly know what to say, is this the most stupid electorate we’ve ever had?

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:35 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:57 pm Had a couple of friends over for lunch. I knew he was a Tory voter in the past but asked him who he was voting for this time.

Started the answer saying how much Sunak had crushed Starmer in the debates, then on to not wanting to pay an extra £2k tax, so sticking Tory. I asked who the Tory candidate was, didn’t know. I asked which party the current MP was from, didn’t know.

Does it matter who the MP in your constituency is? It’s a team sport.

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:38 pm

epwc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:19 am Father in laws been in palliative care at ours for a month or so, so I’ve been exposed to lots of my white Essex family.

Yesterday he passed away, two of the carers that had been regularly coming in to look after him came back after their shift so that when the doctor had confirmed death they could wash him and dress him. Both Muslim, one from Nigeria the other from Bangladesh. They ended up talking election with one of my brother in laws, he’s voting reform. Why? Cos we’re just being overrun aren’t we? Health system can’t cope everything’s shagged cos of all these people coming over.

He said this sitting opposite me at my dining table, to two people that had been wiping his father in laws arse every day for the last four weeks.

This fella obviously voted Brexit.

Straight afterwards wife’s cousins husband started on about exactly the same things, thankfully the carers had gone by then. (Brexiteer, Covid denier, climate change denier)

I don’t honestly know what to say, is this the most stupid electorate we’ve ever had?

Sorry for your families loss mate

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:04 am I think Reform voters will be emboldened by what's happening in France right now

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:19 am

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:04 am I think Reform voters will be emboldened by what's happening in France right now

Radical right isn’t going anywhere unless and until a government can grasp lower immigration and higher economic growth. It’s the spectre that will linger over Starmer’s government

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:19 amRadical right isn’t going anywhere unless and until a government can grasp lower immigration and higher economic growth.

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:41 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:19 amRadical right isn’t going anywhere unless and until a government can grasp lower immigration and higher economic growth.

Neither the electorate nor the financiers have the patience for a government (any government) to put in place the necessary infrastructure to enable this.

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:48 am

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:41 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:19 amRadical right isn’t going anywhere unless and until a government can grasp lower immigration and higher economic growth.

Neither the electorate nor the financiers have the patience for a government (any government) to put in place the necessary infrastructure to enable this.

I'd also say we're probably the most self obsessed, materialistic society that's existed in the UK right now. Things are so different to when I was a kid, people just want stuff as though it'll make some material difference to their lives, and they really don't give a shit about their impact on anyone else.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:19 am

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:04 am I think Reform voters will be emboldened by what's happening in France right now

Radical right isn’t going anywhere unless and until a government can grasp lower immigration and higher economic growth. It’s the spectre that will linger over Starmer’s government

Lobby wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:16 amLower immigration and higher economic growth are mutually exclusive.

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:22 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:16 amLower immigration and higher economic growth are mutually exclusive.

I don't think so, but it does need a lot of change to enable, it's a long term project that nobody has the patience for

At the Downing Street lobby briefing this morning the PM’s spokesperson said Rishi Sunak was not concerned that some people could be disenfranchised by delays to receiving their postal ballots.

Lobby wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:16 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:19 am

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:04 am I think Reform voters will be emboldened by what's happening in France right now

Radical right isn’t going anywhere unless and until a government can grasp lower immigration and higher economic growth. It’s the spectre that will linger over Starmer’s government

As others have pointed out, our current economic model requires immigration to provide economic growth. Lower immigration and higher economic growth are mutually exclusive.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:07 am

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:22 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:16 amLower immigration and higher economic growth are mutually exclusive.

I don't think so, but it does need a lot of change to enable, it's a long term project that nobody has the patience for

Without immigration, you'd be talking about per worker productivity growth approaching 30% over the next ten to fifteen years. I don't see how that's possible, happy to hear any suggestions.

Our current per worker productivity growth is less than 0.5% per annum.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:07 amWithout immigration, you'd be talking about per worker productivity growth approaching 30% over the next ten to fifteen years. I don't see how that's possible, happy to hear any suggestions.

Our current per worker productivity growth is less than 0.5% per annum.

SaintK wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:25 am Well that's ok then!!!

At the Downing Street lobby briefing this morning the PM’s spokesperson said Rishi Sunak was not concerned that some people could be disenfranchised by delays to receiving their postal ballots.

Lobby wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:16 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:19 am

epwc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:04 am I think Reform voters will be emboldened by what's happening in France right now

Radical right isn’t going anywhere unless and until a government can grasp lower immigration and higher economic growth. It’s the spectre that will linger over Starmer’s government

As others have pointed out, our current economic model requires immigration to provide economic growth. Lower immigration and higher economic growth are mutually exclusive.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:47 amIf this were true, given our unprecedented migration levels we’d be in the middle of an economic boom. Economic growth is flatlining because we can’t build anything and don’t invest. Change that and we’ll be in decent shape