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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:17 pm
by inactionman
Bath's intensity a lot better, but Saints seem to have caught a dose of Bathitis - making silly mistakes to kill their own momentum.

Just as I finish typing, Collins walks one in out wide - after Bath make a few silly mistakes.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm
by sockwithaticket
inactionman wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:17 pm Bath's intensity a lot better, but Saints seem to have caught a dose of Bathitis - making silly mistakes to kill their own momentum.

Just as I finish typing, Collins walks one in out wide - after Bath make a few silly mistakes.
Although their sloppiness is stopping them from capitalising, momentum very much seems to be with Northampton at the moment.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:30 pm
by inactionman
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm
inactionman wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:17 pm Bath's intensity a lot better, but Saints seem to have caught a dose of Bathitis - making silly mistakes to kill their own momentum.

Just as I finish typing, Collins walks one in out wide - after Bath make a few silly mistakes.
Although their sloppiness is stopping them from capitalising, momentum very much seems to be with Northampton at the moment.
Yep, although I think there's a bit more solidity to the Bath defence, quite a few ruck penalties. Furbank looks a bit of a curate's egg here, some good lines and runs but really odd, basic mistakes -passes direct into touch.

Ted Hill on for Bath debut at replacement 8.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:33 pm
by JM2K6
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:15 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:11 pm Blimey, didn't expect Daly to get overhauled by slade. Exeter looking lively so far.


It's always slower to turn and run back than to just run forward. :roll:
Yes, but Daly was still ahead of him halfway there and still got overtaken.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:35 pm
by sockwithaticket
inactionman wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:30 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm
inactionman wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:17 pm Bath's intensity a lot better, but Saints seem to have caught a dose of Bathitis - making silly mistakes to kill their own momentum.

Just as I finish typing, Collins walks one in out wide - after Bath make a few silly mistakes.
Although their sloppiness is stopping them from capitalising, momentum very much seems to be with Northampton at the moment.
Yep, although I think there's a bit more solidity to the Bath defence, quite a few ruck penalties. Furbank looks a bit of a curate's egg here, some good lines and runs but really odd, basic mistakes -passes direct into touch.

Ted Hill on for Bath debut at replacement 8.
Looks I cursed Saints, because since that post momentum veyr much swung the other way. That intercept from Redpath looks like it could be decisive.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:37 pm
by JM2K6
Ben Kay thinking Nowell not running fast is tactically treading water rather than his top gear

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:41 pm
by inactionman
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:35 pm
inactionman wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:30 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm

Although their sloppiness is stopping them from capitalising, momentum very much seems to be with Northampton at the moment.
Yep, although I think there's a bit more solidity to the Bath defence, quite a few ruck penalties. Furbank looks a bit of a curate's egg here, some good lines and runs but really odd, basic mistakes -passes direct into touch.

Ted Hill on for Bath debut at replacement 8.
Looks I cursed Saints, because since that post momentum veyr much swung the other way. That intercept from Redpath looks like it could be decisive.
Good rolling maul try from Saints, still life in this one I think.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:49 pm
by JM2K6
Saracens got shafted at that maul, Exeter straight in the side

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:51 pm
by sockwithaticket
inactionman wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:41 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:35 pm
inactionman wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:30 pm

Yep, although I think there's a bit more solidity to the Bath defence, quite a few ruck penalties. Furbank looks a bit of a curate's egg here, some good lines and runs but really odd, basic mistakes -passes direct into touch.

Ted Hill on for Bath debut at replacement 8.
Looks I cursed Saints, because since that post momentum veyr much swung the other way. That intercept from Redpath looks like it could be decisive.
Good rolling maul try from Saints, still life in this one I think.
Good win for Bath that. A lot more grit and coherence than we saw from them even a few of rounds ago.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:52 pm
by Tichtheid
That was tense.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:54 pm
by Oxbow
Could have pretty much guaranteed Saints would give Bath their first win today. We are annoyingly so much poorer than we actually should be, have been for ages now and no-one seems to have worked out what to do about it.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:54 pm
by JM2K6
Saracens scrum wins penalty number one billion and Goode nails the kick. Saracens win 22-20. They made heavy weather of it but their pack saw them through. Backs looked a bit off for once, the midfield especially and Farrell didn't have a great game either.

Exeter were better in the second half but eh.

Good sign for England that Mako had such a great time in the scrum.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:31 pm
by Kawazaki
England dodged a bullet with Eddie's Namibian poach as well.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:23 pm
by sockwithaticket
Latest Wasps exit, Bristol get Will Porter. Good bit of business for them.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:50 pm
by JM2K6
I'm still hoping we're in a position to offer him a contract after his injury cover time at Bristol is done. He'd be ideal for us.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:50 pm
by Madness
I think Glos should go for Robson, make a big difference as I think scrum half is their biggest weakness at the moment.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:45 pm
by sockwithaticket
Resilient performance from Quins up at the AJ Bell. Scrambled well when necessary and took opportunities when they were presented. Sale very error strewn, but part of that was down to Quins' committed defending.
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:50 pm I'm still hoping we're in a position to offer him a contract after his injury cover time at Bristol is done. He'd be ideal for us.
Certainly looks like he'd be an upgrade on your existing Care back ups from what little I've seen of them.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:50 pm
by JM2K6
Yeah, they're gash.

That performance was a big surprise. Under the cosh away from home against a beastly team and in the end we made it look comfortable. Surprisingly shit performance from some of sale's bigger names.

Nice to see Marcus tweak a few noses with a superb performance largely off the back foot, too

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:01 pm
by SaintK
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:50 pm Yeah, they're gash.

That performance was a big surprise. Under the cosh away from home against a beastly team and in the end we made it look comfortable. Surprisingly shit performance from some of sale's bigger names.

Nice to see Marcus tweak a few noses with a superb performance largely off the back foot, too
Quins well worth the win

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:04 pm
by ASMO
SaintK wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:01 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:50 pm Yeah, they're gash.

That performance was a big surprise. Under the cosh away from home against a beastly team and in the end we made it look comfortable. Surprisingly shit performance from some of sale's bigger names.

Nice to see Marcus tweak a few noses with a superb performance largely off the back foot, too
Quins well worth the win
i can 100% guarantee that Marcus Smith will say 100% in the answer to every question he is asked.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:04 pm
by ASMO
SaintK wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:01 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:50 pm Yeah, they're gash.

That performance was a big surprise. Under the cosh away from home against a beastly team and in the end we made it look comfortable. Surprisingly shit performance from some of sale's bigger names.

Nice to see Marcus tweak a few noses with a superb performance largely off the back foot, too
Quins well worth the win
Might be a rocky evening in a certain bordies household ;-)

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:10 pm
by Brazil
ASMO wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:04 pm
SaintK wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:01 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:50 pm Yeah, they're gash.

That performance was a big surprise. Under the cosh away from home against a beastly team and in the end we made it look comfortable. Surprisingly shit performance from some of sale's bigger names.

Nice to see Marcus tweak a few noses with a superb performance largely off the back foot, too
Quins well worth the win
Might be a rocky evening in a certain bordies household ;-)
No.1 son is wearing the quins shirt (marked wit a 10 on the back). I am muttering Tyler Durden quotes to myself.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:25 pm
by ASMO
Brazil wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:10 pm
ASMO wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:04 pm
SaintK wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:01 pm
Quins well worth the win
Might be a rocky evening in a certain bordies household ;-)
No.1 son is wearing the quins shirt (marked wit a 10 on the back). I am muttering Tyler Durden quotes to myself.
At least you ar enot making him wear sack cloth and ashes

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:19 am
by assfly
Much better from Quins. Their first try was class. I like Herbst, he's providing some much-need grunt in the second row. But we really could do with a proper fullback. Is Mike Brown busy these days?

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:27 am
by JM2K6
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:19 am Much better from Quins. Their first try was class. I like Herbst, he's providing some much-need grunt in the second row. But we really could do with a proper fullback. Is Mike Brown busy these days?
Very much not and judging by his TV appearance, desparate for a contract anywhere. But David is a proper fullback and is an absolute menace of an attacking player. With Bassett around now we can slot him in.

Herbst's huge grin after mixing it with Wiese and Du Preez was a delight. He's a monstrous human being.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:44 am
by inactionman
Rumours that Thomas De Toit moving to Bath from Sharks, with Koch filling his not inconsiderably sized boots in South Africa.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:59 am
by SaintK
Any England Jersey training squad updates? Haven't seen any
May and Arundell looked buggered on Friday and Farrell and LC-D on Saturday
Lawes has already withdrawn as he's still recovering from concussion!

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:17 pm
by ASMO
SaintK wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:59 am Any England Jersey training squad updates? Haven't seen any
May and Arundell looked buggered on Friday and Farrell and LC-D on Saturday
Lawes has already withdrawn as he's still recovering from concussion!
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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:55 pm
by SaintK
ASMO wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:17 pm
SaintK wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:59 am Any England Jersey training squad updates? Haven't seen any
May and Arundell looked buggered on Friday and Farrell and LC-D on Saturday
Lawes has already withdrawn as he's still recovering from concussion!
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:thumbup: Thanks
Good to see Radwan called up

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:10 pm
by assfly
Where is Louis Lynagh these days?

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:12 pm
by sockwithaticket
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:10 pm Where is Louis Lynagh these days?
Broken

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:52 pm
by Oxbow
Dave Attwood has been banned for three weeks for striking Fraser Dingwall in the Bath v Saints game, despite the ref and TMO calling it a 'rugby incident '. Could have made all the difference, Bath kicked the penalty to go further ahead, or, penalty reversed and Bath down to 14. Saints didn't really deserve to win the game but that was rank poor officiating.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:48 pm
by SaintK
Brad Shields has signed for Perpignan
Robin Hislop has signed for Sarries
Vincent Koch to Stade Francais (medical joker)
Paolo Odogwu to Stade Francais (medical joker)

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:40 pm
by Paddington Bear
Just catching up on Rugby Tonight, with an interview with Mike Brown.

I know he was a hate figure for the celts during his England years but he’s never come across as anything but a deeply shy guy who cares.

Poor bloke ended up bursting into tears when shown the picture of him and Care with the 6N trophy in 2016, having talked a lot about a ‘transition’ that seemed to be describing unemployment with a young family. Doyle tbf to him realised what had happened pretty immediately and they all handled it well with him.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:18 am
by inactionman
Oxbow wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:52 pm Dave Attwood has been banned for three weeks for striking Fraser Dingwall in the Bath v Saints game, despite the ref and TMO calling it a 'rugby incident '. Could have made all the difference, Bath kicked the penalty to go further ahead, or, penalty reversed and Bath down to 14. Saints didn't really deserve to win the game but that was rank poor officiating.
I caught bits of the match and I thought Dingwall was lazing about holding onto the tackled player on the wrong side and could easily have been carded.

To be clear, I'm saying Dingwall could also have been penalised, not that he deserved his face bounced off another player's swede.

Attwood correctly apologised and recognised that - although Bath need to get intensity up - his actions weren't on.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:24 am
by Slick
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:40 pm Just catching up on Rugby Tonight, with an interview with Mike Brown.

I know he was a hate figure for the celts during his England years but he’s never come across as anything but a deeply shy guy who cares.

Poor bloke ended up bursting into tears when shown the picture of him and Care with the 6N trophy in 2016, having talked a lot about a ‘transition’ that seemed to be describing unemployment with a young family. Doyle tbf to him realised what had happened pretty immediately and they all handled it well with him.
I didn't hate him, just didn't think he was very good, but actually really admired his tenacity and in your faceness. We sometimes laugh at English players for not having passion (they most certainly do) so couldn't really complain when one wore his heart on his sleeve, to use a shit phrase.

In saying that, I met him twice, once with a mutual friend of his then girlfriend now wife, and he was a cock both times. To be fair to him maybe it was because he was really shy, don't know.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:47 am
by Tichtheid
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:24 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:40 pm Just catching up on Rugby Tonight, with an interview with Mike Brown.

I know he was a hate figure for the celts during his England years but he’s never come across as anything but a deeply shy guy who cares.

Poor bloke ended up bursting into tears when shown the picture of him and Care with the 6N trophy in 2016, having talked a lot about a ‘transition’ that seemed to be describing unemployment with a young family. Doyle tbf to him realised what had happened pretty immediately and they all handled it well with him.
I didn't hate him, just didn't think he was very good, but actually really admired his tenacity and in your faceness. We sometimes laugh at English players for not having passion (they most certainly do) so couldn't really complain when one wore his heart on his sleeve, to use a shit phrase.

In saying that, I met him twice, once with a mutual friend of his then girlfriend now wife, and he was a cock both times. To be fair to him maybe it was because he was really shy, don't know.


I can't say I hated him, I just didn't think he was all that as an international fullback, he was certainly never in my mind as a contender for the Lions , not in front of 1/2p, Williams, Hogg, Maitland or Kearney.

That sounds a lot harsher than it's meant, you don't get that many England caps if you're a mug.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:54 am
by sockwithaticket
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:40 pm Just catching up on Rugby Tonight, with an interview with Mike Brown.

I know he was a hate figure for the celts during his England years but he’s never come across as anything but a deeply shy guy who cares.

Poor bloke ended up bursting into tears when shown the picture of him and Care with the 6N trophy in 2016, having talked a lot about a ‘transition’ that seemed to be describing unemployment with a young family. Doyle tbf to him realised what had happened pretty immediately and they all handled it well with him.
It's definitely sad to see that he's struggling, but I get the impression it's a little self-inflicted.

I came across this interview.

https://www.ruck.co.uk/mike-brown-is-li ... -football/

Between that and the Rugby Tonight appearance it seems like he hasn't really been setting anything up for post-rugby over the last few years and still envisioned playing at the moment, which, as a 37 year old outside back, is probably a bit optimisitic. Over the last few years of podcasts and sundry other interviews I've heard from various players in their 30s who are deep into preparing for life after rugby even while they're still actively playing and planning on doing so for a little while and younger players who should have long careers ahead of them who are setting up small businesses on the side. The RPA apparently do offer a lot of support with this stuff now as well as the clubs themselves..

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:26 am
by Paddington Bear
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:24 am

In saying that, I met him twice, once with a mutual friend of his then girlfriend now wife, and he was a cock both times. To be fair to him maybe it was because he was really shy, don't know.
Can't argue with that!
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:54 am
It's definitely sad to see that he's struggling, but I get the impression it's a little self-inflicted.

I came across this interview.

https://www.ruck.co.uk/mike-brown-is-li ... -football/

Between that and the Rugby Tonight appearance it seems like he hasn't really been setting anything up for post-rugby over the last few years and still envisioned playing at the moment, which, as a 37 year old outside back, is probably a bit optimisitic. Over the last few years of podcasts and sundry other interviews I've heard from various players in their 30s who are deep into preparing for life after rugby even while they're still actively playing and planning on doing so for a little while and younger players who should have long careers ahead of them who are setting up small businesses on the side. The RPA apparently do offer a lot of support with this stuff now as well as the clubs themselves..
Yes I did have the same thought about self inflicted. Got a sense that a mate of his with media connections (Care?) had arranged for him to go on and there's clearly people worried about him given the extent to which even someone with no real reason to go out to bat for him like BOD was touting him for a gig somewhere.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:11 pm
by SaintK
SaintK wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:48 pm Brad Shields has signed for Perpignan
Robin Hislop has signed for Sarries
Vincent Koch to Stade Francais (medical joker)
Paolo Odogwu to Stade Francais (medical joker)
Dan Frost to Exeter