I can't get sound on my stream, which on recent commentator showings is perhaps for the bestJM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:34 pm Got a fairly low res stream but the commentators calling Max Ojomoh Ollie Lawrence is not a good look
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Robshaw just teed up Dallaglio to talk about the Bath forwards, so he immediately started describing what Finn Russell didinactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:37 pmI can't get sound on my stream, which on recent commentator showings is perhaps for the bestJM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:34 pm Got a fairly low res stream but the commentators calling Max Ojomoh Ollie Lawrence is not a good look
If it's in Europe we won't be watching as we've finally reached the limit on paying to watch rugby, particularly a tournament where neither of our teams have any chance, and where the outcome is inevitably "moneybags french club Vs team with most of the Irish national side/the other french moneybags club".Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:57 pmWill make for an interesting atmosphere in the Braz householdASMO wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:57 pmWith nothing to play for, i wouldn't bet against it being an "inexperienced" sideTorquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:53 pm Raises an interesting speculation: which Sale turns out next week both in terms of squad and performance?![]()
On a personal level I'm not sure. I'd like both teams to explore their depth and use it to test younger players given this tournament is a bust. Equally they're both in need of finding form, so full strength sides before the enforced lay off during the 6N would also make sense.
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Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.

He's an absolute fuckwit. He ended up saying there was mitigation because the attacker was rising(?!)sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.![]()
In reality, the tackler is high, hits upwards, and swings an arm and shoulder straight into the jaw. Absolutely no mitigation.
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I'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.![]()
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While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
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It was, but Dallaglio called him Lawrence againinactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pmI'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.![]()
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Mine must be worse than yours, that or I need an eye test. Thought I'd correctly read the shirt number as 13inactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pmI'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.![]()

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Very nice. Lovely weight from Russell and Ojomoh has good hands.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:07 pmMine must be worse than yours, that or I need an eye test. Thought I'd correctly read the shirt number as 13inactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pmI'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.![]()
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Mine keep relaying a move from 10 minutes ago and confusing the hell out of me.
Is any one watching this on the actual TV?
Barbeary did lift the leg tbf, but the other player being involved is why it was only a pen
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Despite the lineout cock up Clermont look omiously muscular in the tight. Really, really want to avoid giving them driving opportunities in the 22 if you're Bath.
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In the words of racist Ron, looked to be good eyebrows from Ojomoh for that try
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:20 pmIt's irritating because he had already put Murley away for what should've been a cracking try and he clearly made the wrong call. Whatever about him getting mashed by Isa, who then did the same to Hammond, because that's life and it's going to happen when a guy who made his name melting people in the Rugby Championship is getting a head of steam.ASMO wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:14 pm Dombrandt having a mare, got melted by Isa in the tackle and just shit the bed on a certain try
I will say that "having a mare" doesn't look like that, though. Dombrandt made more carries (16) than anyone else , more tackles (25/2) than anyone else by a mile, more metres (62) than any other forward (and more than any Toulon player), and actually made an impact at the breakdown. Gave away some penalties and made a couple of errors, but that ledger is heavily weighted in his favour. Same with Murley - he should've nailed that first try but he was a big positive for Quins overall.
Baxter is getting flogged after Marler's retirement, Walker is getting flogged after Jibulu's injury, Lamositele is a waste of a signing, Launchbury & Hammond are a dreadful combo and miles off Lewies/Herbst/Lamb, Porter's form has dropped off, Care is a thousand years old, David lacks physicality and Green is just back from injury. Can't fault the attitude in most matches but there are structural problems in the squad at the moment.
Yeah, but you've got the best flyhalf since Barry John apparently so it seems odd that Quins keep losing.
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Listen to people that have actually played the game ffs.
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Dayglo's most recent game having been 18 years ago doesn't seem to have conferred upon him any great understanding seeing as how he frequently gets even basics wrong, let alone more complex judgement decisions like card situations.Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:30 pmsockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Listen to people that have actually played the game ffs.
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Let off for Bath that, very nearly a disaster start to the half.
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:38 pmDayglo's most recent game having been 18 years ago doesn't seem to have conferred upon him any great understanding seeing as how he frequently gets even basics wrong, let alone more complex judgement decisions like card situations.Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:30 pmsockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Listen to people that have actually played the game ffs.
Then listen to Jonathan Davies at halftime instead who said the same.
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I'm waiting for Ugo's opinion before commenting.
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Went for a piss.Tbh being a current player doesn't mean much for understanding the law either. Have seen plenty interviewed down the years, they're often pretty clueless on the finer points or even things like qualification criteria in competitions of which they're partaking.Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pmsockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:38 pmDayglo's most recent game having been 18 years ago doesn't seem to have conferred upon him any great understanding seeing as how he frequently gets even basics wrong, let alone more complex judgement decisions like card situations.
Then listen to Jonathan Davies at halftime instead who said the same.
The ultimate test is whether the card is upheld or rescinded, but it's hard to see where anyone could poke a hole in Adamson's application of the framework. Nothing he said was incorrect.
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Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
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No. They wouldn't. Because it's entirely instinctive. Which is why players cannot help sticking the 1 hand out despite the inevitable sanction.fishfoodie wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:30 pmUsing two hands didn't make it a serious attempt to catch, if it did we'd never see deliberate knock-ons given, because all the players would just use two hands.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:58 pmLots of whining by the Irish players forever after but he clearly went for the ball with 2 hands.
{EDIT} What JM said!
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As far as I'm aware, yep, unfortunately. Not sure what issue is though,
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It's a central source of discussion amongst les Maritimes: their lack of a decent half back pairing is their biggest problem.JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:03 pm Hastoy really has repeatedly shit the bed today. Kicking that ball away was a disastrous decision.
Not much harder in the game than stopping him a few yards out.sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:49 pm Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
Cokanasiga again, sigh. Really frustrates me watching him. Not least because one of the Welsh PR trolls had his weaknesses pegged a few years back and that burns, y'know?
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It's his positional play that used to really be a worry, it's improved but still a weakness.JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:53 pmNot much harder in the game than stopping him a few yards out.sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:49 pm Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
Cokanasiga again, sigh. Really frustrates me watching him. Not least because one of the Welsh PR trolls had his weaknesses pegged a few years back and that burns, y'know?
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:53 pmNot much harder in the game than stopping him a few yards out.sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:49 pm Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
That try just now was outstanding - that's how to keep the low leg drive going.