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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:09 am
by Tichtheid
Scottish online rugby magazine The Offside Line are reporting that Russell to Bath is to be confirmed this week.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 am
by Kawazaki
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:00 am
Having confirmed Sinfield this feels needlessly non-committal.
Asked specifically about Hodgson, whose arrival was only announced in November, Sweeney himself would not comment on the individual situations of any coaches.
“I think it's too early to say that yet,” Sweeney said.
Afaik Hodgson is defence only and we're not going to have him doubling up with Sir Kev are we?
Hodgson has been a kicking coach at Sale. He was sacked as Hull RL coach after winning 1 game. Been an assistant coach at a few other RL clubs. He's not an elite RU coach, he has no place at the elite end of English rugby. I hope he makes a decent cup of tea otherwise he has no use at all.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:43 am
by westport
Finn signs for Bath
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:51 pm
by SaintK
westport wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:43 am
Finn signs for Bath
So that rumour was true all along!
Joins after 2023 RWC
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:00 pm
by inactionman
SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:51 pm
westport wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:43 am
Finn signs for Bath
So that rumour was true all along!
Joins after 2023 RWC
I'd initially written it off to agent playing sillybuggers, but a very welcome development.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:01 pm
by dpedin
inactionman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:00 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:51 pm
westport wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:43 am
Finn signs for Bath
So that rumour was true all along!
Joins after 2023 RWC
I'd initially written it off to agent playing sillybuggers, but a very welcome development.
I wonder what it was about the million pound pa contract that attracted him to Bath?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:03 pm
by inactionman
dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:01 pm
inactionman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:00 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:51 pm
So that rumour was true all along!
Joins after 2023 RWC
I'd initially written it off to agent playing sillybuggers, but a very welcome development.
I wonder what it was about the million pound pa contract that attracted him to Bath?
There are plenty worse places to live and work.
He'll not win much, mind.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:11 pm
by Prembore
dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:01 pm
inactionman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:00 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:51 pm
So that rumour was true all along!
Joins after 2023 RWC
I'd initially written it off to agent playing sillybuggers, but a very welcome development.
I wonder what it was about the million pound pa contract that attracted him to Bath?
Should get him a decent two bed semi in one of the side streets.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:37 pm
by sockwithaticket
You'd struggle to find a player who seems less Johan van Graan. This has Bruce Craig signing without consulting his DoR written all over it.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:05 pm
by inactionman
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:37 pm
You'd struggle to find a player who seems less Johan van Graan. This has Bruce Craig signing without consulting his DoR written all over it.
At least he actually got his man this time.
Last time rumours were flying about a rich man's plaything signing it was Dan Carter and we ended up signing an injured Steven Donald*.
(*Who I thought was actually a very talented flyhalf, but damned by trying to play half-fit through a hip injury and by the fact he wasn't Dan Carter)
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:44 pm
by JM2K6
Always amusing when the papers announce what a deal is worth
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:08 pm
by Tichtheid
inactionman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:05 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:37 pm
You'd struggle to find a player who seems less Johan van Graan. This has Bruce Craig signing without consulting his DoR written all over it.
At least he actually got his man this time.
Last time rumours were flying about a rich man's plaything signing it was Dan Carter and we ended up signing an injured Steven Donald*.
(*Who I thought was actually a very talented flyhalf, but damned by trying to play half-fit through a hip injury and by the fact he wasn't Dan Carter)
I guess there is a bit of luck involved with signing players - on the other side of the coin to Donald is Quins signing Nick Evans and getting a terrific international quality fly half for a long time
We (Edinbugh) signed Robbie Fruean after his brief stint at Bath and he looked fantastic when fit, which wasn't very often at all.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:01 pm
by Kawazaki
London Irish v Saracens
The teams:
London Irish: 15 Ben Loader, 14 Lucio Cinti, 13 Will Joseph, 12 Benhard van Rensburg, 11 Ollie Hassell-Collins, 10 Paddy Jackson, 9 Ben White, 8 So’otala Fa’aso’o, 7 Tom Pearson, 6 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 5 Adam Coleman (c), 4 Api Ratuniyarawa, 3 Oliver Hoskins, 2 Mike Willemse, 1 Will Goodrick-Clarke
Replacements: 16 Ignacio Ruiz, 17 Danilo Fischetti, 18 Ciaran Parker, 19 Chunya Munga, 20 Rob Simmons, 21 Chandler Cunningham-South, 22 Caolan Englefield, 23 Rory Jennings
Saracens: 15 Alex Goode, 14 Alex Lewington, 13 Elliot Daly, 12 Nick Tompkins, 11 Sean Maitland, 10 Owen Farrell (c), 9 Ivan Van Zyl, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Ben Earl, 6 Andy Christie, 5 Hugh Tizard, 4 Nick Isiekwe, 3 Marco Riccioni, 2 Tom Woolstencroft, 1 Mako Vunipola
Replacements: 16 Kapeli Pifeleti, 17 Robin Hislop, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Andrew Kitchener, 20 Jackson Wray, 21 Aled Davies, 22 Duncan Taylor, 23 Max Malins
No George, Itoje or McFarland. Lozowski banned for 1 match.
If you did a player for player comparison, how many of you would - honestly - select more LI players in a composite team? Honestly now...
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:09 pm
by Margin__Walker
Sarries 15 full of LI rejects.
We've got this
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:21 pm
by Kawazaki
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:09 pm
Sarries 15 full of LI rejects.
We've got this
The Saracens 23 has got plenty of players that would be regarded as 'shite' or indeed have been described that way plenty of times before. It's a miracle they win, it really is.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:33 pm
by Margin__Walker
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:21 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:09 pm
Sarries 15 full of LI rejects.
We've got this
The Saracens 23 has got plenty of players that would be regarded as 'shite' or indeed have been described that way plenty of times before. It's a miracle they win, it really is.
Yeah, I know. Foregone conclusion really. Home banker.
In all seriousness, us following up going through every possible way in the book to lose tight games this season, by handing Sarries their first loss would be typical LI. Wont hold my breath though.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:39 pm
by SaintK
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:01 pm
London Irish v Saracens
The teams:
London Irish: 15 Ben Loader, 14 Lucio Cinti, 13 Will Joseph, 12 Benhard van Rensburg, 11 Ollie Hassell-Collins, 10 Paddy Jackson, 9 Ben White, 8 So’otala Fa’aso’o, 7 Tom Pearson, 6 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 5 Adam Coleman (c), 4 Api Ratuniyarawa, 3 Oliver Hoskins, 2 Mike Willemse, 1 Will Goodrick-Clarke
Replacements: 16 Ignacio Ruiz, 17 Danilo Fischetti, 18 Ciaran Parker, 19 Chunya Munga, 20 Rob Simmons, 21 Chandler Cunningham-South, 22 Caolan Englefield, 23 Rory Jennings
Saracens: 15 Alex Goode, 14 Alex Lewington, 13 Elliot Daly, 12 Nick Tompkins, 11 Sean Maitland, 10 Owen Farrell (c), 9 Ivan Van Zyl, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Ben Earl, 6 Andy Christie, 5 Hugh Tizard, 4 Nick Isiekwe, 3 Marco Riccioni, 2 Tom Woolstencroft, 1 Mako Vunipola
Replacements: 16 Kapeli Pifeleti, 17 Robin Hislop, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Andrew Kitchener, 20 Jackson Wray, 21 Aled Davies, 22 Duncan Taylor, 23 Max Malins
No George, Itoje or McFarland. Lozowski banned for 1 match.
If you did a player for player comparison, how many of you would - honestly - select more LI players in a composite team? Honestly now...
DEfinitely OH-C for Lewington and Gonzales for Christie in my composite. Possiblly Coleman for Isiekwe
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:46 pm
by SaintK
Interesting?
The Rugby Football Union is thought to be finalising details of the radical law trial, which is likely to come in at level three and below – or everything beneath the Championship. As well as dropping the legal height of a tackle from the shoulders to the navel, it has also been indicated that ball-carriers will be told to remain as upright as possible when taking contact. Official confirmation is expected to come next month.
https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https:// ... s-roots/
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:59 pm
by sockwithaticket
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:39 pm
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:01 pm
London Irish v Saracens
The teams:
London Irish: 15 Ben Loader, 14 Lucio Cinti, 13 Will Joseph, 12 Benhard van Rensburg, 11 Ollie Hassell-Collins, 10 Paddy Jackson, 9 Ben White, 8 So’otala Fa’aso’o, 7 Tom Pearson, 6 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 5 Adam Coleman (c), 4 Api Ratuniyarawa, 3 Oliver Hoskins, 2 Mike Willemse, 1 Will Goodrick-Clarke
Replacements: 16 Ignacio Ruiz, 17 Danilo Fischetti, 18 Ciaran Parker, 19 Chunya Munga, 20 Rob Simmons, 21 Chandler Cunningham-South, 22 Caolan Englefield, 23 Rory Jennings
Saracens: 15 Alex Goode, 14 Alex Lewington, 13 Elliot Daly, 12 Nick Tompkins, 11 Sean Maitland, 10 Owen Farrell (c), 9 Ivan Van Zyl, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Ben Earl, 6 Andy Christie, 5 Hugh Tizard, 4 Nick Isiekwe, 3 Marco Riccioni, 2 Tom Woolstencroft, 1 Mako Vunipola
Replacements: 16 Kapeli Pifeleti, 17 Robin Hislop, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Andrew Kitchener, 20 Jackson Wray, 21 Aled Davies, 22 Duncan Taylor, 23 Max Malins
No George, Itoje or McFarland. Lozowski banned for 1 match.
If you did a player for player comparison, how many of you would - honestly - select more LI players in a composite team? Honestly now...
DEfinitely OH-C for Lewington and Gonzales for Christie in my composite. Possiblly Coleman for Isiekwe
Purely on a scrummaging basis maybe Goodrick-Clarke for Mako.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:23 pm
by Kawazaki
Did you find out what happened to Isiekwe Kev or would you rather not say?
Good to see he's back, he's one of the Jones forgotten/ignored men of England.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:14 pm
by SaintK
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:23 pm
Did you find out what happened to Isiekwe Kev or would you rather not say?
Good to see he's back, he's one of the Jones forgotten/ignored men of England.
Not sure how common knowledge it was but he had a slight heart issue that required some corrective surgery
He's come through it 100% and ahead of schedule.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:16 pm
by inactionman
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:46 pm
Interesting?
The Rugby Football Union is thought to be finalising details of the radical law trial, which is likely to come in at level three and below – or everything beneath the Championship. As well as dropping the legal height of a tackle from the shoulders to the navel, it has also been indicated that ball-carriers will be told to remain as upright as possible when taking contact. Official confirmation is expected to come next month.
https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https:// ... s-roots/
If this removes the endless pick-and-dive-at-the-tacklers-feet whenever the ball is 5m out, I'd be a very happy man.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:10 pm
by Kawazaki
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:14 pm
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:23 pm
Did you find out what happened to Isiekwe Kev or would you rather not say?
Good to see he's back, he's one of the Jones forgotten/ignored men of England.
Not sure how common knowledge it was but he had a slight heart issue that required some corrective surgery
He's come through it 100% and ahead of schedule.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:10 pm
by SaintK
Bloody hell dreadful shoulder to head from Coleman on Sarries hooker
Stone cold red and probably quite a few weeks out I should imagine
Wolstencroft stretchered off
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:18 pm
by sockwithaticket
SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:10 pm
Bloody hell dreadful shoulder to head from Coleman on Sarries hooker
Stone cold red and probably quite a few weeks out I should imagine
Wolstencroft stretchered off
Comms mentioned he had two reds for the same thing against Sarries last year (one rescinded on appeal). If we're going to take this issue seriously, he really should have the book thrown at him.
Worst thing really is that it was just lazy and so completely avoidable. He wasn't caught out or anything, he just didn't make any effort to get lower.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:21 pm
by sockwithaticket
Sarries' discipline has been garbage since the red.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:30 pm
by sockwithaticket
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:21 pm
Sarries' discipline has been garbage since the red.
Compounded by conceding their own red
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:37 pm
by Bullet
Have laws changed or commentators just forgotten when 'defending' one of their favourites? - thought that you couldn't tackle anyone if on your knees as counts as being 'on the floor'
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:47 pm
by ASMO
Sarries players really are cretins, and the worst of the lot and who should be setting the example is the petulant child captaining them.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:05 pm
by Torquemada 1420
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:14 pm
Not sure how common knowledge it was but he had a slight heart issue that required some corrective surgery
He's come through it 100% and ahead of schedule.
If only Bath could apply a similar fix.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:35 pm
by ASMO
Saracens deserve nothing from this game, 14 against 12 and they still pick and go, utterly dumb rugby. Daley twice blown an overlap. Kicking the ball out on the full, this is amateur park level rugby.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:41 pm
by sockwithaticket
As inept as Sarries were, that was outstanding resilience and work rate from Irish to see that period out.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:47 pm
by Tichtheid
Gwan Irish
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:48 pm
by petej
Was that farrell flying out the line and missing in the build up to the try?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:48 pm
by Kawazaki
Saracens have beaten themselves but it's Carley that is the catalyst. Saracens hate him and you can see why.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:49 pm
by sockwithaticket
Quality try. Margin's a big Pearson fan, I'd imagine that break gave him at least half a chub.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:49 pm
by ASMO
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:41 pm
As inept as Sarries were, that was outstanding resilience and work rate from Irish to see that period out.
Agreed, but they didnt really have to try hard. Sarries dont even get a losing bonus point, exactly what they deserve. Farrell, Van Zyl, Daley, Lewington, Maitland, the replacement hooker all just awful.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:50 pm
by Tichtheid
I like that big fellah that scored the try, he's been good the last few weeks
Spectacular name too
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:52 pm
by Margin__Walker
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:49 pm
Quality try. Margin's a big Pearson fan, I'd imagine that break gave him at least half a chub.
Out on a family thing. Checking the score though.
Pearson is a serious player. Slips under the radar, but I reckon he'd make it on a bigger stage.
Hope wolstencroft is okay.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:54 pm
by sockwithaticket
Revenge of the league basement dwellers tonight, Newcastle have done for Sale as well.
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:52 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:49 pm
Quality try. Margin's a big Pearson fan, I'd imagine that break gave him at least half a chub.
Out on a family thing. Checking the score though.
Pearson is a serious player. Slips under the radar, but I reckon he'd make it on a bigger stage.
Hope wolstencroft is okay.
Enjoy it on catch up, probably be easier for your blood pressure knowing the result.