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Still a knock on if you juggle you have to regather or automatic knock on.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:45 pmForwards sure.
And your suggestion if he kicks it backwards?
That isn't really relevant though as has England ben 14 up or whatever they wouldn't have had to 'chance their arm' that being said Robson and Hill want shooting...
True, only the 2 games makes the gap feel longer. Your own team losing doesn't help either...BnM wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:29 pmEspecially given we missed a game as well. This year they've been playing less rugby, there's less going on, did we actually need a break let alone 2sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:18 pm I hate this rest week, it sucks all the momentum out of the tournament. Really need a restructure so that it's 2 weeks on - rest - 2 weeks on - rest - super saturday.
Mentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:43 pmTrue, only the 2 games makes the gap feel longer. Your own team losing doesn't help either...BnM wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:29 pmEspecially given we missed a game as well. This year they've been playing less rugby, there's less going on, did we actually need a break let alone 2sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:18 pm I hate this rest week, it sucks all the momentum out of the tournament. Really need a restructure so that it's 2 weeks on - rest - 2 weeks on - rest - super saturday.
I think the break weeks help add to the suspense and atmosphere of the tournament, but only if deployed properly. After the first 2 games weeks a week off feels right, we all get time to digest everything we've seen and it builds a sense of anticipation for the next game. Just having one game week before a week off doesn't yield quite the same impact. For me at least.
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 amMentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:43 pmTrue, only the 2 games makes the gap feel longer. Your own team losing doesn't help either...
I think the break weeks help add to the suspense and atmosphere of the tournament, but only if deployed properly. After the first 2 games weeks a week off feels right, we all get time to digest everything we've seen and it builds a sense of anticipation for the next game. Just having one game week before a week off doesn't yield quite the same impact. For me at least.
Feeling very similar with Wasps going through a depressing form collapse. My only rugby bright spot in weeks was England's win over Italy which, for fairly obvious reasons, wasn't that much to celebrate.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:08 amPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 amMentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:43 pm
True, only the 2 games makes the gap feel longer. Your own team losing doesn't help either...
I think the break weeks help add to the suspense and atmosphere of the tournament, but only if deployed properly. After the first 2 games weeks a week off feels right, we all get time to digest everything we've seen and it builds a sense of anticipation for the next game. Just having one game week before a week off doesn't yield quite the same impact. For me at least.
Aye and it exacerbated when your team hasn't played and the only thing you have to look forward to is Edinburgh getting pumped playing 1990s Leicester style rugby.
Though the word "style" is used here in its widest definition.
I watched a Prem game instead of the Ireland - Italy match. I'm so bored of watching Italy do a few good things, but undermine themselves and ultimately get hammered. Not having done so, though, probably accentuates the feeling of it not being a proper 6 Nations weekend and thus being a big lull in the middle of the tournament.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 amMentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:43 pmTrue, only the 2 games makes the gap feel longer. Your own team losing doesn't help either...
I think the break weeks help add to the suspense and atmosphere of the tournament, but only if deployed properly. After the first 2 games weeks a week off feels right, we all get time to digest everything we've seen and it builds a sense of anticipation for the next game. Just having one game week before a week off doesn't yield quite the same impact. For me at least.
If something doesn't change soon I think the broadcasters may force the Italy issue. I'll probably watch the games in lockdown but no way I'm using up precious TV time capital for their games in normal times. If this is increasingly the view of committed rugby fans I assume the casuals have long since given up.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:14 amI watched a Prem game instead of the Ireland - Italy match. I'm so bored of watching Italy do a few good things, but undermine themselves and ultimately get hammered. Not having done so, though, probably accentuates the feeling of it not being a proper 6 Nations weekend and thus being a big lull in the middle of the tournament.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 amMentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:43 pm
True, only the 2 games makes the gap feel longer. Your own team losing doesn't help either...
I think the break weeks help add to the suspense and atmosphere of the tournament, but only if deployed properly. After the first 2 games weeks a week off feels right, we all get time to digest everything we've seen and it builds a sense of anticipation for the next game. Just having one game week before a week off doesn't yield quite the same impact. For me at least.
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 amIf something doesn't change soon I think the broadcasters may force the Italy issue. I'll probably watch the games in lockdown but no way I'm using up precious TV time capital for their games in normal times. If this is increasingly the view of committed rugby fans I assume the casuals have long since given up.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:14 amI watched a Prem game instead of the Ireland - Italy match. I'm so bored of watching Italy do a few good things, but undermine themselves and ultimately get hammered. Not having done so, though, probably accentuates the feeling of it not being a proper 6 Nations weekend and thus being a big lull in the middle of the tournament.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 am
Mentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.
The writing is already on the wall I think with the SA teams coming into the Pro16. Either the tournament expands, or the Italians are dropped, it will be one or the other.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:19 amPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 amIf something doesn't change soon I think the broadcasters may force the Italy issue. I'll probably watch the games in lockdown but no way I'm using up precious TV time capital for their games in normal times. If this is increasingly the view of committed rugby fans I assume the casuals have long since given up.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:14 am
I watched a Prem game instead of the Ireland - Italy match. I'm so bored of watching Italy do a few good things, but undermine themselves and ultimately get hammered. Not having done so, though, probably accentuates the feeling of it not being a proper 6 Nations weekend and thus being a big lull in the middle of the tournament.
Particularly when it comes off free to air. I don't think someone who's paid a wedge for the rights, nor their advertisers, will appreciate a sharp drop in viewership that correlates strongly with one particular participating nation.
I think I said earlier on - I switched off at half time, no idea when I last did that. Usually I watch pretty well every 6N game all the way through.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 amIf something doesn't change soon I think the broadcasters may force the Italy issue. I'll probably watch the games in lockdown but no way I'm using up precious TV time capital for their games in normal times. If this is increasingly the view of committed rugby fans I assume the casuals have long since given up.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:14 amI watched a Prem game instead of the Ireland - Italy match. I'm so bored of watching Italy do a few good things, but undermine themselves and ultimately get hammered. Not having done so, though, probably accentuates the feeling of it not being a proper 6 Nations weekend and thus being a big lull in the middle of the tournament.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 am
Mentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.
No, your point is undermined in that we've all moved on from this now.Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:43 pm The ball went straight down from Zammit, his hand was touching it and he was in contact with it, and when it left ihis hand, it went straight down, and a bit backwards.
When you watch the video in slow mo, (cannot find it..someone will post it).
But next time you see it..
let's all say it together.
Oooo look he is still in contact with the ball..
Ooooo..yup...he is still in contact..
ohhh.look, it goes straight down when it left his hand.
It was not a knock on.
I realise my point is undermined slightly, by me not posting the video.
Eh, the penalty was on one side of the pitch. Covering that side was automatically much easier.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:39 am The Squidge Report is out for the Wales v England game, and it's pretty conclusive about the 'time on' try. England had plenty of time, and managed to cover this exact same scenario on the other side of the pitch - just laziness; Squidge singles out Watson, although he was actually the one most reluctant to go into the huddle, and was looking at Biggar. Once he was in, he forgot all about it, though.
It was about 5m to the right of the posts. If you check the video, Elliott Daly is already in position on the far right before the first player starts making his way over to the left - and at snail's pace at that. Nothing but laziness on England's behalf.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:09 amEh, the penalty was on one side of the pitch. Covering that side was automatically much easier.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:39 am The Squidge Report is out for the Wales v England game, and it's pretty conclusive about the 'time on' try. England had plenty of time, and managed to cover this exact same scenario on the other side of the pitch - just laziness; Squidge singles out Watson, although he was actually the one most reluctant to go into the huddle, and was looking at Biggar. Once he was in, he forgot all about it, though.
Still, I'm sure the guy who thinks Josh Adams is the best wing in the world definitely has no bias, no matter how interesting his videos
Well, the guy in charge of the refs thinks it was ridiculous that having asked England to have a chat, the ref in charge decided to put time on while they were still bunched up. That's the long and short of it. England not sprinting to cover because they didn't expect the ref to fuck them is neither here nor there. It makes for plenty of "engagement" on Youtube videos though, I'm sure.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:17 amIt was about 5m to the right of the posts. If you check the video, Elliott Daly is already in position on the far right before the first player starts making his way over to the left - and at snail's pace at that. Nothing but laziness on England's behalf.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:09 amEh, the penalty was on one side of the pitch. Covering that side was automatically much easier.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:39 am The Squidge Report is out for the Wales v England game, and it's pretty conclusive about the 'time on' try. England had plenty of time, and managed to cover this exact same scenario on the other side of the pitch - just laziness; Squidge singles out Watson, although he was actually the one most reluctant to go into the huddle, and was looking at Biggar. Once he was in, he forgot all about it, though.
Still, I'm sure the guy who thinks Josh Adams is the best wing in the world definitely has no bias, no matter how interesting his videos
That's exactly what happened in the Wales England game. May was quick to get back into position, but Watson took his time which was noticed by Biggar and Adams.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:54 am Incidentally, the Saints - Bath game on Sunday had a very similar incident which was handled exactly as I would expect based on other cases over time:
- ref calls time off and tells captain to go have a word with his team
- waits for captain to have the chat
- checks that he's done and allows players to shuffle back into position
- calls time back on
It's been done to death, but, one last time, because I'm bored, Gauzere did not check with Farrell that he was finished and even calls time on after Biggar has kicked. The ball is past the England posts by the time Gauzere actually say the words time on.assfly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:00 pmThat's exactly what happened in the Wales England game. May was quick to get back into position, but Watson took his time which was noticed by Biggar and Adams.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:54 am Incidentally, the Saints - Bath game on Sunday had a very similar incident which was handled exactly as I would expect based on other cases over time:
- ref calls time off and tells captain to go have a word with his team
- waits for captain to have the chat
- checks that he's done and allows players to shuffle back into position
- calls time back on
England were expecting the kick for posts and got caught napping.
Lesson learnt, I'm sure they'll be much more aware of it in the future.
You're right, but it's a technical point. Teams have huddled for this sort of thing for decades.
.It seems the huddle was called by Ford while the ref was having his word with Farrell and asking him to warn his team. Teams don't usually arrange a tactical chat while they're waiting for a kick to be taken do they?
Er, again, that's something that happens now and then and is nothing new.
Isn’t everything history unless we're speculating about the future?SaintK wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:44 pmWho gives a flying fuck? It's history.