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The writing is already on the wall I think with the SA teams coming into the Pro16. Either the tournament expands, or the Italians are dropped, it will be one or the other.sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:19 amPaddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 amIf something doesn't change soon I think the broadcasters may force the Italy issue. I'll probably watch the games in lockdown but no way I'm using up precious TV time capital for their games in normal times. If this is increasingly the view of committed rugby fans I assume the casuals have long since given up.sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:14 am
I watched a Prem game instead of the Ireland - Italy match. I'm so bored of watching Italy do a few good things, but undermine themselves and ultimately get hammered. Not having done so, though, probably accentuates the feeling of it not being a proper 6 Nations weekend and thus being a big lull in the middle of the tournament.
Particularly when it comes off free to air. I don't think someone who's paid a wedge for the rights, nor their advertisers, will appreciate a sharp drop in viewership that correlates strongly with one particular participating nation.
I think I said earlier on - I switched off at half time, no idea when I last did that. Usually I watch pretty well every 6N game all the way through.Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 amIf something doesn't change soon I think the broadcasters may force the Italy issue. I'll probably watch the games in lockdown but no way I'm using up precious TV time capital for their games in normal times. If this is increasingly the view of committed rugby fans I assume the casuals have long since given up.sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:14 amI watched a Prem game instead of the Ireland - Italy match. I'm so bored of watching Italy do a few good things, but undermine themselves and ultimately get hammered. Not having done so, though, probably accentuates the feeling of it not being a proper 6 Nations weekend and thus being a big lull in the middle of the tournament.Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 am
Mentioned it before but it just felt liked a robbed weekend, given the only 'proper' game has become a slanging match about the ref.
No, your point is undermined in that we've all moved on from this now.Line6 HXFX wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:43 pm The ball went straight down from Zammit, his hand was touching it and he was in contact with it, and when it left ihis hand, it went straight down, and a bit backwards.
When you watch the video in slow mo, (cannot find it..someone will post it).
But next time you see it..
let's all say it together.
Oooo look he is still in contact with the ball..
Ooooo..yup...he is still in contact..
ohhh.look, it goes straight down when it left his hand.
It was not a knock on.
I realise my point is undermined slightly, by me not posting the video.
Funny! But he doesn't tell him to talk to his team. Which is kind of the key point.Niegs wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:43 pm One of those blokes who uploads all kinds of interesting highlights to youtube has just shared one from his archives!
Eh, the penalty was on one side of the pitch. Covering that side was automatically much easier.clydecloggie wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:39 am The Squidge Report is out for the Wales v England game, and it's pretty conclusive about the 'time on' try. England had plenty of time, and managed to cover this exact same scenario on the other side of the pitch - just laziness; Squidge singles out Watson, although he was actually the one most reluctant to go into the huddle, and was looking at Biggar. Once he was in, he forgot all about it, though.
It was about 5m to the right of the posts. If you check the video, Elliott Daly is already in position on the far right before the first player starts making his way over to the left - and at snail's pace at that. Nothing but laziness on England's behalf.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:09 amEh, the penalty was on one side of the pitch. Covering that side was automatically much easier.clydecloggie wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:39 am The Squidge Report is out for the Wales v England game, and it's pretty conclusive about the 'time on' try. England had plenty of time, and managed to cover this exact same scenario on the other side of the pitch - just laziness; Squidge singles out Watson, although he was actually the one most reluctant to go into the huddle, and was looking at Biggar. Once he was in, he forgot all about it, though.
Still, I'm sure the guy who thinks Josh Adams is the best wing in the world definitely has no bias, no matter how interesting his videos
Well, the guy in charge of the refs thinks it was ridiculous that having asked England to have a chat, the ref in charge decided to put time on while they were still bunched up. That's the long and short of it. England not sprinting to cover because they didn't expect the ref to fuck them is neither here nor there. It makes for plenty of "engagement" on Youtube videos though, I'm sure.clydecloggie wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:17 amIt was about 5m to the right of the posts. If you check the video, Elliott Daly is already in position on the far right before the first player starts making his way over to the left - and at snail's pace at that. Nothing but laziness on England's behalf.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:09 amEh, the penalty was on one side of the pitch. Covering that side was automatically much easier.clydecloggie wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:39 am The Squidge Report is out for the Wales v England game, and it's pretty conclusive about the 'time on' try. England had plenty of time, and managed to cover this exact same scenario on the other side of the pitch - just laziness; Squidge singles out Watson, although he was actually the one most reluctant to go into the huddle, and was looking at Biggar. Once he was in, he forgot all about it, though.
Still, I'm sure the guy who thinks Josh Adams is the best wing in the world definitely has no bias, no matter how interesting his videos
That's exactly what happened in the Wales England game. May was quick to get back into position, but Watson took his time which was noticed by Biggar and Adams.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:54 am Incidentally, the Saints - Bath game on Sunday had a very similar incident which was handled exactly as I would expect based on other cases over time:
- ref calls time off and tells captain to go have a word with his team
- waits for captain to have the chat
- checks that he's done and allows players to shuffle back into position
- calls time back on
It's been done to death, but, one last time, because I'm bored, Gauzere did not check with Farrell that he was finished and even calls time on after Biggar has kicked. The ball is past the England posts by the time Gauzere actually say the words time on.assfly wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:00 pmThat's exactly what happened in the Wales England game. May was quick to get back into position, but Watson took his time which was noticed by Biggar and Adams.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:54 am Incidentally, the Saints - Bath game on Sunday had a very similar incident which was handled exactly as I would expect based on other cases over time:
- ref calls time off and tells captain to go have a word with his team
- waits for captain to have the chat
- checks that he's done and allows players to shuffle back into position
- calls time back on
England were expecting the kick for posts and got caught napping.
Lesson learnt, I'm sure they'll be much more aware of it in the future.
You're right, but it's a technical point. Teams have huddled for this sort of thing for decades.charltom wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:12 pm I do wonder why there was any need for a huddle at all to deal with this. There were no fans. Farrell could have been heard by all his players if they'd been in position whem he called out to them! And It's hardly a secret, what he would have to say.
.It seems the huddle was called by Ford while the ref was having his word with Farrell and asking him to warn his team. Teams don't usually arrange a tactical chat while they're waiting for a kick to be taken do they?charltom wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:12 pm I do wonder why there was any need for a huddle at all to deal with this. There were no fans. Farrell could have been heard by all his players if they'd been in position whem he called out to them! And It's hardly a secret, what he would have to say.
Er, again, that's something that happens now and then and is nothing new.GogLais wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:22 pmIt seems the huddle was called by Ford while the ref was having his word with Farrell and asking him to warn his team. Teams don't usually arrange a tactical chat while they're waiting for a kick to be taken do they?charltom wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:12 pm I do wonder why there was any need for a huddle at all to deal with this. There were no fans. Farrell could have been heard by all his players if they'd been in position whem he called out to them! And It's hardly a secret, what he would have to say.
Who gives a flying fuck? It's history.GogLais wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:22 pmIt seems the huddle was called by Ford while the ref was having his word with Farrell and asking him to warn his team. Teams don't usually arrange a tactical chat while they're waiting for a kick to be taken do they?charltom wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:12 pm I do wonder why there was any need for a huddle at all to deal with this. There were no fans. Farrell could have been heard by all his players if they'd been in position whem he called out to them! And It's hardly a secret, what he would have to say.
Isn’t everything history unless we're speculating about the future?SaintK wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:44 pmWho gives a flying fuck? It's history.GogLais wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:22 pmIt seems the huddle was called by Ford while the ref was having his word with Farrell and asking him to warn his team. Teams don't usually arrange a tactical chat while they're waiting for a kick to be taken do they?charltom wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:12 pm I do wonder why there was any need for a huddle at all to deal with this. There were no fans. Farrell could have been heard by all his players if they'd been in position whem he called out to them! And It's hardly a secret, what he would have to say.
Thank you Confucius.GogLais wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:46 pmIsn’t everything history unless we're speculating about the future?SaintK wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:44 pmWho gives a flying fuck? It's history.GogLais wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:22 pm
It seems the huddle was called by Ford while the ref was having his word with Farrell and asking him to warn his team. Teams don't usually arrange a tactical chat while they're waiting for a kick to be taken do they?
Thanks for the thread Laurent. One of the more successful rugby ones so far.laurent wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:39 pm Some good news on French potential recall Vakatawa, Chat, Ntamack are fit.
Looks like I need to go back to English class...Ymx wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:21 pmThanks for the thread Laurent. One of the more successful rugby ones so far.laurent wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:39 pm Some good news on French potential recall Vakatawa, Chat, Ntamack are fit.
Any chance you can edit your OP to fix the thread title to be “lockdown” rather than “Locked Down”.
That lot are going to ream England sans lubelaurent wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:43 pmLooks like I need to go back to English class...Ymx wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:21 pmThanks for the thread Laurent. One of the more successful rugby ones so far.laurent wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:39 pm Some good news on French potential recall Vakatawa, Chat, Ntamack are fit.
Any chance you can edit your OP to fix the thread title to be “lockdown” rather than “Locked Down”.
The squad with the 3 above back in the group
After England’s performances so far this year, surely Cretin is playing for the wrong side; he’d fit in well with the rest of the England team.
To spite some of your cuntier fans for the way they attacked him and his dead dad online in the aftermath?Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:59 pmI agree, it’ll be very interesting to see how both teams perform. Last year it was a brand new team and playing at home, this year they are expected to win something.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:10 pm It's a real test for France's new found mental strength, but you'd have to make them strong favourites. I expect Penaud to do disgusting things to us. I hope he doesn't end Malins' career before it starts!
Also, I don’t get why Brace is the ref, he was awful last fall ( at least for a French view point )
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rug ... 69383.html
That is a nice looking team.
I know you meant he shouldn't get the game because of his errors. My suggestion about the fans is a little facetious and I'm sure the lack of other options is a bigger part of the decision, but I think it's true also that World Rugby wouldn't want their decision making to look like it was influenced by fan anger and not giving him the fixture could be interpreted as them giving in to it.Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:35 pmYep, you can choose whatever part of this article you want, I was referring at the many mistakes he made highlighted by the Independent, that costed the French the game.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:09 pmTo spite some of your cuntier fans for the way they attacked him and his dead dad online in the aftermath?Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:59 pm
I agree, it’ll be very interesting to see how both teams perform. Last year it was a brand new team and playing at home, this year they are expected to win something.
Also, I don’t get why Brace is the ref, he was awful last fall ( at least for a French view point )
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rug ... 69383.html
That aside there aren't many non-French or English international refs around at the moment in the Northern Hemisphere.
What happened later in the not so social medias and tweets didn’t change the game. Shameful,I had no idea about this
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... by-union
A decision on whether the Six Nations championship will continue to be broadcast on terrestrial television will be made “within weeks” following confirmation of a £365m five-year investment deal with the private equity firm CVC. Officials are insistent, however, that CVC are “a force for good” and will play a crucial role in broadening rugby union’s global popularity.
Having already bought stakes in Premiership Rugby and the Pro 14, CVC have purchased 14.3% of the Six Nations’ commercial rights, which will yield £95m over five years for the Rugby Football Union. The other home unions have been allocated lower amounts based on their relative audience share, with the Welsh Rugby Union receiving £51m and the Irish Rugby Football Union and Scottish Rugby Union benefiting to the tunes of £48m and £44.5m respectively.
