NPR

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:08 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:15 pm



You must be joking.

Do you think the UK is going to ignore the largest trading block, right on its doorstep !

All that's going to change in January, is the UKs negotiating position is going to get considerably worse; & the pressure on the UK Government is going to ratchet up.

Is one pessimistic take on what is going to happen. I was listening to one utterly spineless buffoon on Radio 2 today practically crying who are we going to sell to? Who are we going to buy from? Well the answer is exactly as before but some conditions will have changed and if the stuff we bought before is now too expensive we will either buy it from elsewhere, cough up, or replace with an alternative. Toughen up princesses Brie could be 40% dearer, won’t someone think of the children?

Somerset makes excellent Brie

That applies both ways princess, our stuff becomes too expensive so they go elsewhere, our economy takes the hit, less jobs, less money, how many trade deals do we have lined up to cover the differential?

dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:10 am

Openside wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:55 pm

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:41 pm

There are more than two types of milk

Very clever, but insufferably smug and just why Brexit is going ahead

Obviously there is British milk and there is EU milk. Apparently we produce 77% of the total milk we need for all dairy production. Dairy products are subject to a c40% tariff under WTO rules. However Ireland is a big producer so perhaps we can depend on them to ride to the rescue? If not then cheddar wars commence!

approx 14 % of UK dairy is imported. Although 2019 UK had a trade surplus.
We have a deficit in butter and cheese and a surplus of cream, raw milk and milk powder

18.3% is the WTO tariff for EU imports and 14.2% is the tariff for UK exports


The main imports of milk products from EU is butter and cheese which can be sourced from anywhere.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:38 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:33 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:22 am

Mods, can we change Openside's name to "Someone's Grandad on Facebook"? TIA

You really are hysterical if you believe all that bullshit, what evidence do you have that the Civil Service are collectively working against Brexit, please be explicit and no citing something you read in the Daily Heil, Karen from Facebook or Cummings or anything like that, real evidence please.

He's only doing it because he thinks he's 'triggering the woke'. It's a sad little life sometimes.

And your choice of words is disgraceful, puts you in the same catergory as Farage and his crew, Traitorous? really? because they fundamentally disagree and exercise their right to free speech? i seem to recall an MP Jo Cox was murdered not so long ago because some single celled organism read that this person was a traitor because they opposed Brexit, supported the EU. So well done for allying yourself with them.

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:08 pm

Is one pessimistic take on what is going to happen. I was listening to one utterly spineless buffoon on Radio 2 today practically crying who are we going to sell to? Who are we going to buy from? Well the answer is exactly as before but some conditions will have changed and if the stuff we bought before is now too expensive we will either buy it from elsewhere, cough up, or replace with an alternative. Toughen up princesses Brie could be 40% dearer, won’t someone think of the children?

Somerset makes excellent Brie

That applies both ways princess, our stuff becomes too expensive so they go elsewhere, our economy takes the hit, less jobs, less money, how many trade deals do we have lined up to cover the differential?

ooh snarky

Where is this 40% figure coming from for dairy imports?


Article I came across says this
"The future terms of UK and EU trade are currently under negotiation and if the UK and EU fail to reach a trade agreement, the UK will have to abide by the World Trade Organisation’s “Most Favoured Nation” tariffs. Under WTO ruling, the average Most Favoured Nation tariff the EU could place on UK dairy is 18.3% while the average tariff the UK could place on EU dairy is 14.2%."
https://www.mintecglobal.com/blog/negot ... exit-dairy

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:59 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:38 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:33 pm

You really are hysterical if you believe all that bullshit, what evidence do you have that the Civil Service are collectively working against Brexit, please be explicit and no citing something you read in the Daily Heil, Karen from Facebook or Cummings or anything like that, real evidence please.

He's only doing it because he thinks he's 'triggering the woke'. It's a sad little life sometimes.

And your choice of words is disgraceful, puts you in the same catergory as Farage and his crew, Traitors? really? because they fundamentally disagree and exercise their right to free speech? i seem to recall an MP Jo Cox was murdered not so long ago because some single celled organism read that this person was a traitor because they opposed Brexit, supported the EU. So well done for allying yourself with them.

eh?

Responding to this quote from earllier in the thread.

Civil service remainer traitors Teresa May etc....

dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:26 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:17 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:10 am

Obviously there is British milk and there is EU milk. Apparently we produce 77% of the total milk we need for all dairy production. Dairy products are subject to a c40% tariff under WTO rules. However Ireland is a big producer so perhaps we can depend on them to ride to the rescue? If not then cheddar wars commence!

40% onto 23% of the milk supply would be an overall increase in cost of about 9% for milk. However, I'm not sure how much of the UK supply comes from NI, and if that might distort things either way.

Maybe we should just ask British cows to step up and work harder post Brexit? Surely the ayrshire, highland, aberdeen angus and the jerseys are loyal, dedicated British cows and will hear the clarion call? However I have always had my doubts about Simmental cows, look a bit foreign to me!

Maybe we will not impose that tariff, or we will make it 10% and then 20% etc as the internal market adjusts.

The import tariff isn’t set by the exporter.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:03 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:59 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:38 pm

He's only doing it because he thinks he's 'triggering the woke'. It's a sad little life sometimes.

And your choice of words is disgraceful, puts you in the same catergory as Farage and his crew, Traitors? really? because they fundamentally disagree and exercise their right to free speech? i seem to recall an MP Jo Cox was murdered not so long ago because some single celled organism read that this person was a traitor because they opposed Brexit, supported the EU. So well done for allying yourself with them.

eh?

I think ASMO's gotten a little confused :)

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:08 pm

Is one pessimistic take on what is going to happen. I was listening to one utterly spineless buffoon on Radio 2 today practically crying who are we going to sell to? Who are we going to buy from? Well the answer is exactly as before but some conditions will have changed and if the stuff we bought before is now too expensive we will either buy it from elsewhere, cough up, or replace with an alternative. Toughen up princesses Brie could be 40% dearer, won’t someone think of the children?

Somerset makes excellent Brie

That applies both ways princess, our stuff becomes too expensive so they go elsewhere, our economy takes the hit, less jobs, less money, how many trade deals do we have lined up to cover the differential?

No, Somerset Brie replaces the expensive import, more jobs, more money economy grows. It’s the exact opposite of what you believe,

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:11 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:52 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Somerset makes excellent Brie

That applies both ways princess, our stuff becomes too expensive so they go elsewhere, our economy takes the hit, less jobs, less money, how many trade deals do we have lined up to cover the differential?

No, Somerset Brie replaces the expensive import, more jobs, more money economy grows. It’s the exact opposite of what you believe,

I was speaking more in general, not just some niche product like Brie.

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:13 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:11 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:52 pm

That applies both ways princess, our stuff becomes too expensive so they go elsewhere, our economy takes the hit, less jobs, less money, how many trade deals do we have lined up to cover the differential?

No, Somerset Brie replaces the expensive import, more jobs, more money economy grows. It’s the exact opposite of what you believe,

I was speaking more in general, not just some niche product like Brie.

Eventually this happens across a wide range of products. We import more than we sell across the whole broad range.


We have control of tariffs across the whole range, we can impose to help the transition where possible.

Thanks for the great example.

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:08 pm Responding to this quote from earllier in the thread.

Civil service remainer traitors Teresa May etc....

Wisnae me

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:15 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:13 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:11 pm



No, Somerset Brie replaces the expensive import, more jobs, more money economy grows. It’s the exact opposite of what you believe,

I was speaking more in general, not just some niche product like Brie.

Eventually this happens across a wide range of products. We import more than we sell across the whole broad range.


We have control of tariffs across the whole range, we can impose to help the transition where possible.

Thanks for the great example.

So you are confident that if/when the EU (our largest trading partnet by far) imposes WTO tariffs to everything we export to them, that the UK government led by the clown in chief will not do tit for tat?

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:19 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:08 pm Responding to this quote from earllier in the thread.

Civil service remainer traitors Teresa May etc....

Wisnae me

Nope it wasnt you, it was Frodder

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:23 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:19 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:08 pm Responding to this quote from earllier in the thread.

Wisnae me

Nope it wasnt you, it was Frodder

You actually took that seriously? It was a pile on OS if you look (again)

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:15 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:13 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:11 pm



No, Somerset Brie replaces the expensive import, more jobs, more money economy grows. It’s the exact opposite of what you believe,

I was speaking more in general, not just some niche product like Brie.

Eventually this happens across a wide range of products. We import more than we sell across the whole broad range.


We have control of tariffs across the whole range, we can impose to help the transition where possible.

Thanks for the great example.

Somerset also makes excellent Camembert.

Jody Sheckter makes excellent Mozarella in Hampshire

frodder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:25 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:23 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:19 pm

Wisnae me

Nope it wasnt you, it was Frodder

You actually took that seriously? It was a pile on OS if you look (again)

I apologise if that was the case, i just find incendiary language like that to be extremely distasteful, apologies again.

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:27 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:15 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:13 pm

I was speaking more in general, not just some niche product like Brie.

Eventually this happens across a wide range of products. We import more than we sell across the whole broad range.


We have control of tariffs across the whole range, we can impose to help the transition where possible.

Thanks for the great example.

Somerset also makes excellent Camembert.

Correct, excellent quality and well priced as well

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:28 pm

frodder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:25 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:23 pm


Nope it wasnt you, it was Frodder

You actually took that seriously? It was a pile on OS if you look (again)

I apologise if that was the case, i just find incendiary language like that to be extremely distasteful, apologies again.

No issues ASMO

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:23 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:19 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:08 pm Responding to this quote from earllier in the thread.

Wisnae me

Nope it wasnt you, it was Frodder

frodder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:29 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:27 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:15 pm



Eventually this happens across a wide range of products. We import more than we sell across the whole broad range.


We have control of tariffs across the whole range, we can impose to help the transition where possible.

Thanks for the great example.

Somerset also makes excellent Camembert.

Correct, excellent quality and well priced as well

Who needs Froggie cheese?

White Stilton and apricot
I have to ration myself if buy this.

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:27 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:15 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:13 pm

I was speaking more in general, not just some niche product like Brie.

Eventually this happens across a wide range of products. We import more than we sell across the whole broad range.


We have control of tariffs across the whole range, we can impose to help the transition where possible.

Thanks for the great example.

Somerset also makes excellent Camembert.

It’s bland as fuck. 1out of 5 on the strength scale. I like my cheese to fight back.

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:32 pm

frodder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:29 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:27 pm
Somerset also makes excellent Camembert.

Correct, excellent quality and well priced as well

Who needs Froggie cheese?

White Stilton and apricot
I have to ration myself if buy this.

Nah!! Fruit with cheese but not fruit in cheese
If you like an English soft cheese look out for Tunworth from Hampshire and Baron Bigod from the Fens

Oh God, fruit in cheese is an abomination.

Cheese is likely to do pretty well out of Brexit, the decline in household income should be good for the market

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:40 pm

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:32 pm

frodder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:29 pm

Correct, excellent quality and well priced as well

Who needs Froggie cheese?

White Stilton and apricot
I have to ration myself if buy this.

Nah!! Fruit with cheese but not fruit in cheese
If you like an English soft cheese look out for Tunworth from Hampshire and Baron Bigod from the Fens

Eat a fair amount of Baron Bigod it has to be said

Farage Park wont be ready until Feb

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:32 pm Farage Park wont be ready until Feb

Which February?

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:32 pm Farage Park wont be ready until Feb

If they'd given the contract to a German company it'd be finished by now

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:32 pm Farage Park wont be ready until Feb

Come on! You surely didn't expect to be ready in time?
I amazed it's only 2 months behind schedule

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:52 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:32 pm Farage Park wont be ready until Feb

If they'd given the contract to a German company it'd be finished by now

Gove hasn't got any close mates that run German construction companies

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:41 pm Oh God, fruit in cheese is an abomination.

You really need to try White stilton and Apricot.
Wensleydale with mango and ginger , also quite good.


Btw: marmite flavoured cheese, Xmas cheese with chocolate, I have made these for my sins

I spent a decade at a cheese manufacturing company, some of the npd stuff they came up with.

One of the oddest things is the Swedes love of Whisky flavoured cheddar.

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:38 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:41 pm Oh God, fruit in cheese is an abomination.

You really need to try White stilton and Apricot.
Wensleydale with mango and ginger , also quite good.


Btw: marmite flavoured cheese, Xmas cheese with chocolate, I have made these for my sins

I spent a decade at a cheese manufacturing company, some of the npd stuff they came up with.

One of the oddest things is the Swedes love of Whisky flavoured cheddar.

marmite flavoured cheese
marmite flavoured cheese
marmite flavoured cheese

Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:38 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:41 pm Oh God, fruit in cheese is an abomination.

You really need to try White stilton and Apricot.
Wensleydale with mango and ginger , also quite good.


Btw: marmite flavoured cheese, Xmas cheese with chocolate, I have made these for my sins

I spent a decade at a cheese manufacturing company, some of the npd stuff they came up with.

One of the oddest things is the Swedes love of Whisky flavoured cheddar.

To be fair, I have tasted that one and it isn't too bad. Some of the others are abominations
Xmas cheese with chocolate FFS

Food companies often have some very weird ideas on what products will look like in 10-15 years, and those often feature chocolate

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:22 am

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:58 pm

I like neeps wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:51 pm

And who are they? It's Boris and his vote leave government negotiating with the EU right now

Civil service remainer traitors Teresa May etc....

Mods, can we change Openside's name to "Someone's Grandad on Facebook"? TIA

Imagine my surprise another pompous smug post from computer gaming boy

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:59 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:38 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:33 pm

You really are hysterical if you believe all that bullshit, what evidence do you have that the Civil Service are collectively working against Brexit, please be explicit and no citing something you read in the Daily Heil, Karen from Facebook or Cummings or anything like that, real evidence please.

He's only doing it because he thinks he's 'triggering the woke'. It's a sad little life sometimes.

And your choice of words is disgraceful, puts you in the same catergory as Farage and his crew, Traitorous? really? because they fundamentally disagree and exercise their right to free speech? i seem to recall an MP Jo Cox was murdered not so long ago because some single celled organism read that this person was a traitor because they opposed Brexit, supported the EU. So well done for allying yourself with them.

Calm down dear

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:13 pm Food companies often have some very weird ideas on what products will look like in 10-15 years, and those often feature chocolate

I've had a cheese from Norway that is brown and tastes of caramel. Tasted slightly cheesy but far too sweet

Openside wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:13 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:22 am

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:58 pm

Civil service remainer traitors Teresa May etc....

Mods, can we change Openside's name to "Someone's Grandad on Facebook"? TIA

Imagine my surprise another pompous smug post from computer gaming boy

Nothing screams pompous and smug like a joke. Poor little snowflake

3 billion people play videogames, by the way. Might as well have a pop at me for watching TV.