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Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:54 am He's not first choice for Bristol anymore so not sure why he should start for England.

It was the screaming thing that really stood out, what the hell is that all about?

Copying Itoje/Sarries players. Another example of Saracens poisoning the game's culture.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:55 am

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:52 am And onto ignore you go. No real idea why i didn't do it sooner.

Eh?

I don't think Raggs was directing that at you, mate.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:57 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:54 am He's not first choice for Bristol anymore so not sure why he should start for England.

It was the screaming thing that really stood out, what the hell is that all about?

Copying Itoje/Sarries players. Another example of Saracens poisoning the game's culture.

Screaming? What Saracens player have you heard doing that?

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:58 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:55 am

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:52 am And onto ignore you go. No real idea why i didn't do it sooner.

Eh?

I don't think Raggs was directing that at you, mate.

Ah!!!!

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:11 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:58 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:55 am
Eh?

I don't think Raggs was directing that at you, mate.

Ah!!!!

No it wasn't at you :).

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:03 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:57 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:54 am He's not first choice for Bristol anymore so not sure why he should start for England.

It was the screaming thing that really stood out, what the hell is that all about?

Copying Itoje/Sarries players. Another example of Saracens poisoning the game's culture.

Screaming? What Saracens player have you heard doing that?

I literally named a high profile one whose unusual in game vocalisations (if you don't like the term screaming) received a fair amount of attention in the rugby press.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:18 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:03 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:57 am

Copying Itoje/Sarries players. Another example of Saracens poisoning the game's culture.

Screaming? What Saracens player have you heard doing that?

I literally named a high profile one whose unusual in game vocalisations (if you don't like the term screaming) received a fair amount of attention in the rugby press.

Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect, he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:18 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:03 am


Screaming? What Saracens player have you heard doing that?

I literally named a high profile one whose unusual in game vocalisations (if you don't like the term screaming) received a fair amount of attention in the rugby press.

Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect, he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

What a load of tedious bollocks, so you are saying the following were not world class? (all who were capped in the last 20 years). Itoje is good, maybe even world class, but he is far from the only one. Seriously stop the wankfest over everything Saracens, you are making yourself look really stupid.

Martin Johnson
Johnny Wilkinson
Jason Robinson
Richard Hill

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:18 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:03 am


Screaming? What Saracens player have you heard doing that?

I literally named a high profile one whose unusual in game vocalisations (if you don't like the term screaming) received a fair amount of attention in the rugby press.

Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm if only Maro did occasionally. Oh and he's not up there with Jonno, Wilkinson,Hill and Robinson quite yet
https://youtu.be/kR7Q-gRWtEU

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:18 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:03 am


Screaming? What Saracens player have you heard doing that?

I literally named a high profile one whose unusual in game vocalisations (if you don't like the term screaming) received a fair amount of attention in the rugby press.

Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect, he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

Even if that were true, in no way should it render him immune to criticism.

Guys, what's the point of me putting him on ignore, if 3 of you are going to go and quote him all the time.

Kawazaki says "Saracens best ever, rah, rah, rah, quins/ex-quins are worst in the world, boo, boo, boo. Other players can't hold a candle to saracens, even players that have just joined saracens become 30000% better for it. Saracens haven't cheated and never did anything wrong, everyone is just mean."

There you go. There's 99% of his posts, feel free to just quote that one at random, and leave him on ignore for the rest please :D.

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:52 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:18 am

I literally named a high profile one whose unusual in game vocalisations (if you don't like the term screaming) received a fair amount of attention in the rugby press.

Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect, he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

What a load of tedious bollocks, so you are saying the following were not world class? (all who were capped in the last 20 years). Itoje is good, maybe even world class, but he is far from the only one. Seriously stop the wankfest over everything Saracens, you are making yourself look really stupid.

Martin Johnson
Johnny Wilkinson
Jason Robinson
Richard Hill

I thought all of those players were capped before 2000?

Lets call it the last 15 years then.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:58 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:18 am

I literally named a high profile one whose unusual in game vocalisations (if you don't like the term screaming) received a fair amount of attention in the rugby press.

Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect, he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

Even if that were true, in no way should it render him immune to criticism.

Absolutely, criticism is fine. He doesn't scream though. That's just fucking weird.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:36 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:58 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am



Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect, he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

Even if that were true, in no way should it render him immune to criticism.

Absolutely, criticism is fine. He doesn't scream though. That's just fucking weird.

His 'whoops' after winning penalties and to distract at the lineout were pretty loud and shrill... does seem to have largely cut that out , though. Maybe someone had a word.

7 Wasps players with positive Covid tests with the final 10 days away.

It's a real problem. I can't see next season starting on time. They are going to have to push it back from November into the new year some time.

Never mind the implications on the upcoming internationals.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:42 pm 7 Wasps players with positive Covid tests with the final 10 days away.

It's a real problem. I can't see next season starting on time. They are going to have to push it back from November into the new year some time.

Never mind the implications on the upcoming internationals.

Really?

That's a real shame. I hope they have a full squad to pick from, they're going to need everything they've got.

Fingers crossed.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:48 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:42 pm 7 Wasps players with positive Covid tests with the final 10 days away.

It's a real problem. I can't see next season starting on time. They are going to have to push it back from November into the new year some time.

Never mind the implications on the upcoming internationals.

Really?

That's a real shame. I hope they have a full squad to pick from, they're going to need everything they've got.

Fingers crossed.

Correction, 4 players, 3 staff. Hopefully they have time to do something, but it's not great prep.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:34 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:52 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am



Itoje doesn't scream.

And show some respect, he's the only true world-class player England has capped in the last 20 years.

What a load of tedious bollocks, so you are saying the following were not world class? (all who were capped in the last 20 years). Itoje is good, maybe even world class, but he is far from the only one. Seriously stop the wankfest over everything Saracens, you are making yourself look really stupid.

Martin Johnson
Johnny Wilkinson
Jason Robinson
Richard Hill

I thought all of those players were capped before 2000?

Lets call it the last 15 years then.

You left out Barritt for some reason.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:05 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:48 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:42 pm 7 Wasps players with positive Covid tests with the final 10 days away.

It's a real problem. I can't see next season starting on time. They are going to have to push it back from November into the new year some time.

Never mind the implications on the upcoming internationals.

Really?

That's a real shame. I hope they have a full squad to pick from, they're going to need everything they've got.

Fingers crossed.

Correction, 4 players, 3 staff. Hopefully they have time to do something, but it's not great prep.

It isn’t. And the big picture’s looking a bit crap now. Or Edvard Munch, depending on your mental state

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:04 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:05 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:48 pm



Really?

That's a real shame. I hope they have a full squad to pick from, they're going to need everything they've got.

Fingers crossed.

Correction, 4 players, 3 staff. Hopefully they have time to do something, but it's not great prep.

It isn’t. And the big picture’s looking a bit crap now. Or Edvard Munch, depending on your mental state

Have to wonder how long we'll have pro rugby continue - Might get lucky and finish the 6N but not looking good for the Autumn tournament.

Ovals wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:46 pm

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:04 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:05 pm

Correction, 4 players, 3 staff. Hopefully they have time to do something, but it's not great prep.

It isn’t. And the big picture’s looking a bit crap now. Or Edvard Munch, depending on your mental state

Have to wonder how long we'll have pro rugby continue - Might get lucky and finish the 6N but not looking good for the Autumn tournament.

Yes. It’s hard to remain optimistic.

Ovals wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:46 pm

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:04 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:05 pm

Correction, 4 players, 3 staff. Hopefully they have time to do something, but it's not great prep.

It isn’t. And the big picture’s looking a bit crap now. Or Edvard Munch, depending on your mental state

Have to wonder how long we'll have pro rugby continue - Might get lucky and finish the 6N but not looking good for the Autumn tournament.

It's rather odd to contrast with the TdF, where they had hundreds of people; competitors & support staff in tight contact, for three weeks, & managed to come out in good shape, & completed the competition.

The Giro then, has made a pigs ear, by comparison, turning in numerous positives, & ruining the competition; because they failed to see that the main players existed in secure bubbles thru the end of the competition.

It's not rocket science; it just needs proper planning, & a group of people who are willing & committed to stay the course.

If the Six Nations teams are serious, & do it properly, they can make it happen, & demand a premium price from the broadcasters, & advertisers by proxy; if the deliver a full, competitive competition !

May or may not be anything in that, but the TdF also had the advantage of happening a month ago.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:10 pm May or may not be anything in that, but the TdF also had the advantage of happening a month ago.

I think the bigger factor was that Politicians made an early commitment that it would happen; & the planning & organization flowed from that. The Giro by contrast happened in almost the same way as previous editions, just later in the year.

The TdF has teams in their own bubbles in individual Hotels; the Giro has stories of multiple teams, & the Public in the same hotel; a recipe for disaster !

The 6N should be a piece of piss by comparison; with only a small number of destinations, & the potential for the same hotel/training facilities being used for visitors in every nation. Deep clean between visitors, & the visitor brings all their own people, from the cleaners to the place kickers.

It's just a matter of will, & organization.

Returning to the suggested position of Sinckler in the Bristol pecking order, he's starting the Challenge Cup final in what looks to be a more or less first choice Bris line up...

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:21 pm Returning to the suggested position of Sinckler in the Bristol pecking order, he's starting the Challenge Cup final in what looks to be a more or less first choice Bris line up...

Shaken off his injury then. Good to see.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:22 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:21 pm Returning to the suggested position of Sinckler in the Bristol pecking order, he's starting the Challenge Cup final in what looks to be a more or less first choice Bris line up...

Shaken off his injury then. Good to see.

Didn't even realise he'd picked one up. With the games coming so thick and fast it's been more difficult than usual to keep up with all the squad developments.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:28 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:22 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:21 pm Returning to the suggested position of Sinckler in the Bristol pecking order, he's starting the Challenge Cup final in what looks to be a more or less first choice Bris line up...

Shaken off his injury then. Good to see.

Didn't even realise he'd picked one up. With the games coming so thick and fast it's been more difficult than usual to keep up with all the squad developments.

He went off injured against Tigers at the back end of September. They're making positive noises about having fixed his long running calf woes so maybe that's the end of it now

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:32 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:28 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:22 pm

Shaken off his injury then. Good to see.

Didn't even realise he'd picked one up. With the games coming so thick and fast it's been more difficult than usual to keep up with all the squad developments.

He went off injured against Tigers at the back end of September. They're making positive noises about having fixed his long running calf woes so maybe that's the end of it now

Fingers crossed for him. Calf injuries'll suck for any athelete, they must be particularly awkward and at risk of recurrence if not quite properly healed with tight five forwards.

Matt Dawson was/is/remains a total arsehole apparently.

Who'd have guessed that?

Bristol apparently being put on standby in case more Wasps players test positive.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... ovid-tests

Reckon Exeter would absolutely bury them if it came to that.


Good news (potentially) from a Wasps perspective is that the 4 players who tested positive are now confirmed to have been academy lads, so that would hopefully reduce the likelihood of the senior squad, specifically the matchday 23, having been infected.

Amazing start by Bristol - try from their own 22 - within 20 secs of the KO

7-0

That try was after 15 seconds

Wow! Lovely stuff! If that had been Tom Varndell in his socks, that would have been a score after 9 secs.

10-0 - almost a carbon copy of the first try with a breakout leading to a penalty. What a start.

They've come out swinging alright, clock's going to need a while to catch them.

Bristol really looking to get the ball out wide - and getting plenty of succes with it.

That's a soft way to let them back into the game.

Pretty lethal from Toulon, pouncing on a mistake and scoring.

Entertaining game so far.