NPR

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:08 am Does anyone believe Jake when he claims the parent side makes 12 mill a year?

You'd have thought they would have reinvested more than $27.50 per annum into the back end.

I think he said that was 12mill turnover per year, not profit. Though of course he was careful to avoid clarifying that when challenged on it.

Dismal Pillock wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:58 pm

Jeff the Bear wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:47 pmeither through boredom, death or other life consequences, we will eventually see erosion of the denizens of this bored until there is no one left (or, more likely, we'll pass beyond a threshold where there isn't enough people to keep conversations going, and the rest will leave).

I'm quite looking forward to it; there's nothing quite like the feel of a dying message board, it's agreeably spooky. You wander around the echoing halls that were recently full of activity, poking your head into this or that abandoned room, maybe post something and 2 weeks later another wanderer posts a reply. Then nothing.

Chrysoprase wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:45 am

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:08 am Does anyone believe Jake when he claims the parent side makes 12 mill a year?

You'd have thought they would have reinvested more than $27.50 per annum into the back end.

I think he said that was 12mill turnover per year, not profit. Though of course he was careful to avoid clarifying that when challenged on it.

I don’t know much at all about such sites, but I guess there’s many mouths involved and if profit was a fraction of that as expected, you wouldn’t want to bother with it all for much less.

Women's clothing and coin collector sellers are paying Jake £1m a month in advertising revenue????

Ellafan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:27 am PR may not be gone, but it is very likely going to mutate into something quite different.

Jake has stated that the forum will be transferred to a Xenforo platform. While that could be used to replicate the style of the old site, one of the reasons Jake cited for doing it is to be smart phone friendly. Xenforo has features like push-notifications for things on the forum/site that will pop up on the phone etc.

Which, I think, was OS's point. Friendly for PR in that they can then push more adverts.

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:08 am Does anyone believe Jake when he claims the parent site makes 12 mill a year?

You'd have thought they would have reinvested more than $27.50 per annum into the back end.

He didn't say that. He said it turned over 12 million (although I don't recall which currency now). I challenged him on how much profit that made just before I got zapped.

I think Jake would have liked more than $27.50 per annum into the back end too.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:25 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:27 am PR may not be gone, but it is very likely going to mutate into something quite different.

Jake has stated that the forum will be transferred to a Xenforo platform. While that could be used to replicate the style of the old site, one of the reasons Jake cited for doing it is to be smart phone friendly. Xenforo has features like push-notifications for things on the forum/site that will pop up on the phone etc.

Which, I think, was OS's point. Friendly for PR in that they can then push more adverts.

I haven’t bothered researching Xenforo... I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but reading between the lines of a couple of Jake’s posts on this and following on from the whole Facebook experience, I expect to see the ‘new forum’ become much more of a social media driven beast. PR has a Facebook page I followed for a little while... there’s your click bait model. Post an ‘article’ replete with supreme ritin skillz and try to drive comment activity off that. There’s your traffic generated and that’s the income model sorted.

Ellafan has explained pretty well to us not in the know about why Planet Rugby should change the platform for the forum for their own purposes.

But what makes us think they'll actually do it? Does the PR leadership care about what happens in the PR forum? Are they competent enough to make anything actually happen? PR has had its anachronistic, clunky look for years without being changed.

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:41 am Ellafan has explained pretty well to us not in the know about why Planet Rugby should change the platform for the forum for their own purposes.

But what makes us think they'll actually do it? Does the PR leadership care about what happens in the PR forum? Are they competent enough to make anything actually happen? PR has had its anachronistic, clunky look for years without being changed.

Main site is awful. Disregarding the quality of the editorial content (because although we deride it, it might actually be aimed at a kids audience), the rest is terrible
- navigation is dire
- there are next to no stats stuff. I know cricinfo is the bar beyond all bars but PR has nada
- organisation is rubbish. Pointless having headings for things like Premiership, T14 etc only to find half the articles pertaining to that don't appear there
- does search even work at all?

It was one of my default sites for looking up team sheets (for the FR) which consistently exposed these failings. It seems to be a rugby thing anyway: IRB/WR is pitiful and it has more revenue than PR's 12m pa turnover....

Ironically, this is one aspect the French do very well in
- rugbyrama is very good all the way down to Fed 3
- the LNR site is okay for club stats
- and Midi Olympique is an excellent printed piece which has no equivalent elsewhere

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:22 am
Main site is awful. Disregarding the quality of the editorial content (because although we deride it, it might actually be aimed at a kids audience), the rest is terrible

"Whos' Hot and Who's Not"

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:28 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:22 am
Main site is awful. Disregarding the quality of the editorial content (because although we deride it, it might actually be aimed at a kids audience), the rest is terrible

"Whos' Hot and Who's Not"

Which would be the sort of thing you'd get in a kid's fanzine. I wonder if they were trying to appeal to a dumbed down audience (for differentiation) which, in rugby, really means kids (or some safas**) and then thought "Oh sh*t. How do we make money from a kid's audience". Maybe their advertisers don't look at the demos of clickers and so don't realise it's 9 years olds and the dimmer safas?

**Which is consistent with the site being run by some dim safas.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:38 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:28 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:22 am
Main site is awful. Disregarding the quality of the editorial content (because although we deride it, it might actually be aimed at a kids audience), the rest is terrible

"Whos' Hot and Who's Not"

Which would be the sort of thing you'd get in a kid's fanzine. I wonder if they were trying to appeal to a dumbed down audience (for differentiation) which, in rugby, really means kids (or some safas**) and then thought "Oh sh*t. How do we make money from a kid's audience". Maybe their advertisers don't look at the demos of clickers and so don't realise it's 9 years olds and the dimmer safas?

**Which is consistent with the site being run by some dim safas.

There's two "f" in Dim Saffas, muppet.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:45 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:38 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:28 am

"Whos' Hot and Who's Not"

Which would be the sort of thing you'd get in a kid's fanzine. I wonder if they were trying to appeal to a dumbed down audience (for differentiation) which, in rugby, really means kids (or some safas**) and then thought "Oh sh*t. How do we make money from a kid's audience". Maybe their advertisers don't look at the demos of clickers and so don't realise it's 9 years olds and the dimmer safas?

**Which is consistent with the site being run by some dim safas.

There's two "f" in Dim Saffas, muppet.

South African Fans = SA fans = safas

A bit touchy aren't we?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:27 am

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:08 am Does anyone believe Jake when he claims the parent site makes 12 mill a year?

You'd have thought they would have reinvested more than $27.50 per annum into the back end.

He didn't say that. He said it turned over 12 million (although I don't recall which currency now). I challenged him on how much profit that made just before I got zapped.

I think Jake would have liked more than $27.50 per annum into the back end too.

What an odd duck you are. Earlier today you were tearing Jake a new one like a modern day Lt. Daniel Kaffee, now you've galloped onto this thread in his defence.

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:15 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:27 am

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:08 am Does anyone believe Jake when he claims the parent site makes 12 mill a year?

You'd have thought they would have reinvested more than $27.50 per annum into the back end.

He didn't say that. He said it turned over 12 million (although I don't recall which currency now). I challenged him on how much profit that made just before I got zapped.

I think Jake would have liked more than $27.50 per annum into the back end too.

What an odd duck you are. Earlier today you were tearing Jake a new one like a modern day Lt. Daniel Kaffee, now you've galloped onto this thread in his defence.

Well, unlike Jake, I'm a stickler for the facts! Actually, although he did say turnover, this is Jake and your context is more relevant than my rebuttal i.e. he wanted to throw around the largest number he thought would impress!

You might have been whooshed on the last line.

Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start. :thumbup:

Mods. Ban this sick bastard.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Mods. Ban this sick bastard.

Agreed

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Kif, warm up my Banhammer.

Zapp Bannigan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:46 pm

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Kif, warm up my Banhammer.

Zappa?

Zapp Bannigan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:46 pm

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Kif, warm up my Banhammer.

Good to see you here Zappa.

It's not Zappaman.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

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Mods. Ban this sick bastard.

Banning is too good for this guy. I just watched ep 1 of gangs of London and there are other options

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Swarm, sort this fecker out will you.

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:06 pm

Zapp Bannigan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:46 pm

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

Kif, warm up my Banhammer.

Good to see you here Zappa.

It's not Zappaman.

Ooooh. Too hasty

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

BOOOO!!!

Crouchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:24 pm Different sub-forums would be great, never liked that everything in PR was tossed into the same big pot.

Even if you just had Rugby and Non-Rugby that would be a great start.

I guess it's a question of where is the line between a sub-forum and a topic? Things like search, notify and bookmark cover most of it already.

Oh. And

I've popped over to see what's happening on PR a couple of times and I have to say I've left very quickly. After a week or so on here I just noticed how many fucking idiots there are over there. Much prefer it here.

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:50 am I've popped over to see what's happening on PR a couple of times and I have to say I've left very quickly. After a week or so on here I just noticed how many fucking idiots there are over there. Much prefer it here.

Yeah same. I'll stay at the hotel california till it closes down but this place is far superior and now my first choice.

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:50 am I've popped over to see what's happening on PR a couple of times and I have to say I've left very quickly. After a week or so on here I just noticed how many fucking idiots there are over there. Much prefer it here.

Hey, I've had fuckwits giving me shit on here before I'd even posted, so I think it's a wash. PR's a lost cause though.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:15 am

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:50 am I've popped over to see what's happening on PR a couple of times and I have to say I've left very quickly. After a week or so on here I just noticed how many fucking idiots there are over there. Much prefer it here.

Hey, I've had fuckwits giving me shit on here before I'd even posted, so I think it's a wash. PR's a lost cause though.

You'd go well at F365 rugby, why don't you head on over?

Ah JM is a good lad.

Only him and HH are here from the London clique though

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:22 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:15 am

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:50 am I've popped over to see what's happening on PR a couple of times and I have to say I've left very quickly. After a week or so on here I just noticed how many fucking idiots there are over there. Much prefer it here.

Hey, I've had fuckwits giving me shit on here before I'd even posted, so I think it's a wash. PR's a lost cause though.

You'd go well at F365 rugby, why don't you head on over?

Oh yeah, why's that?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:24 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:22 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:15 am

fuckwits here ..., so I think it's a wash. PR's a lost cause though.

You'd go well at F365 rugby, why don't you head on over?

Oh yeah, why's that?

Because you just dismissed this place and called the posters here fuckwits. Doesn't sound like its the place for you.

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:50 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:24 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:22 am


You'd go well at F365 rugby, why don't you head on over?

Oh yeah, why's that?

Because you just dismissed this place and called the posters here fuckwits. Doesn't sound like its the place for you.

You've edited my post strangely but I should be clear that I consider the people giving me abuse before I posted to be fuckwits, not "the posters here" (which suggests everyone). Given that the crowd here is essentially PR refugees it shouldn't come as a shock.

Calling PR a lost cause and posting here suggests quiote strongly I haven't dismissed this place, just pointed out it's not fuckwit-free.

I hope that settles things. I look forward to a brighter future.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:57 pm

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:50 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:24 am

Oh yeah, why's that?

Because you just dismissed this place and called the posters here fuckwits. Doesn't sound like its the place for you.

You've edited my post strangely but I should be clear that I consider the people giving me abuse before I posted to be fuckwits, not "the posters here" (which suggests everyone). Given that the crowd here is essentially PR refugees it shouldn't come as a shock.

Calling PR a lost cause and posting here suggests quiote strongly I haven't dismissed this place, just pointed out it's not fuckwit-free.

I hope that settles things. I look forward to a brighter future.

Please stop quoting him. Easiest way is to ignore him :). Same foe setting.

Oh, good shout.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:15 am

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:50 am I've popped over to see what's happening on PR a couple of times and I have to say I've left very quickly. After a week or so on here I just noticed how many fucking idiots there are over there. Much prefer it here.

Hey, I've had fuckwits giving me shit on here before I'd even posted, so I think it's a wash. PR's a lost cause though.

Harsh!

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:10 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:57 pm
I just pointed out it's not fuckwit-free.

(interrupted discussion to be a cry-baby)

Well, you are right about that.