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Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:47 pm
by Sandstorm
Biffer wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:40 pm Scotland's aim is going to be to run a couple of phases in the middle using a mix of Tuipolotu and back rows, with the structure we've seen recently where the alignment of Russel and Huwipolotou, with a back row included is such that you can't immediately tell who the ball is going to even after the SH has released it. Cause a misalignment that causes the SA winger to crash in too early or on the wrong man so Russel can put the long pass over the top. That tactic has been key for the last eighteen months and has been developed with that defensive tactic of the winger crashing in tight on the angle in defence. That'll be backed up with cross field kicks from Russell
It's probably the best tactic against the Bok rush-defence. If you get enough ball and Russell fires, you'll scores bags of tries.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:55 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:46 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:32 pm I'll be pissed off if we dont beat the Scots.
So will I. If we play well, we should beat them every time.
If we play badly or start slowly, we'll lose.
If Scots have an absolute blinder, they'll beat us and anyone else.

I'll still be annoyed.
Libbok is the key. If he get it right we'll be ok.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:09 pm
by Biffer
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:47 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:40 pm Scotland's aim is going to be to run a couple of phases in the middle using a mix of Tuipolotu and back rows, with the structure we've seen recently where the alignment of Russel and Huwipolotou, with a back row included is such that you can't immediately tell who the ball is going to even after the SH has released it. Cause a misalignment that causes the SA winger to crash in too early or on the wrong man so Russel can put the long pass over the top. That tactic has been key for the last eighteen months and has been developed with that defensive tactic of the winger crashing in tight on the angle in defence. That'll be backed up with cross field kicks from Russell
It's probably the best tactic against the Bok rush-defence. If you get enough ball and Russell fires, you'll scores bags of tries.
Yeah, and it's the particular tweak of the winger crashing up and in in defence that it's designed for.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:40 am
by topofthemoon
Match preview for the Scottish Rugby Blog. Spoiler - the stats really don't suggest much chance for Scotland. But then who knows what's possible if they can get ball in Finn Russell's hands 30/40 times.

https://www.scottishrugbyblog.co.uk/202 ... view-pt-i/

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:40 am
by average joe
The Scots won't have the space and freedom they had in the warmups, against the Boks.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:45 am
by Sandstorm
average joe wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:40 am The Scots won't have the space and freedom they had in the warmups, against the Boks.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
Or until Libbok, Faf and Willy have an off-day with the boot.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:51 am
by average joe
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:45 am
average joe wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:40 am The Scots won't have the space and freedom they had in the warmups, against the Boks.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
Or until Libbok, Faf and Willy have an off-day with the boot.
Our defence will be a wall and the backs will just have to fall over the line to score, if they get a chance cause the war will be won upfront. Our forwards will mash them into melted mars bars.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:31 am
by ASMO
I honestly cant see the Scots getting within 30 of the Boks, that's not bashing the Scottish team who are streets ahead better than England, i just think the Bok forwards are on a level above every other team right now.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:07 am
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:55 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:46 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:32 pm I'll be pissed off if we dont beat the Scots.
So will I. If we play well, we should beat them every time.
If we play badly or start slowly, we'll lose.
If Scots have an absolute blinder, they'll beat us and anyone else.

I'll still be annoyed.
Libbok is the key. If he get it right we'll be ok.
I am sick and tired of the lack of faith in Libbok. Geez man. You dont hear this negativity about other players. Always the fall guy.

Others can have a shit day knocking on and missing tackles for tries and still get MOTM. We lose its Libboks fault

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:02 am
by OomStruisbaai
Sards wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:07 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:55 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:46 pm

So will I. If we play well, we should beat them every time.
If we play badly or start slowly, we'll lose.
If Scots have an absolute blinder, they'll beat us and anyone else.

I'll still be annoyed.
Libbok is the key. If he get it right we'll be ok.
I am sick and tired of the lack of faith in Libbok. Geez man. You dont hear this negativity about other players. Always the fall guy.

Others can have a shit day knocking on and missing tackles for tries and still get MOTM. We lose its Libboks fault
I am not worried as long as you get the excuses ready.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:28 am
by Sandstorm
Sards wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:07 am We lose its Libboks fault
If a team from any nation under-performs and loses, then the #10 is usually involved in the criticism. They miss kicks, can't get the backline moving, get mowed-down by rampaging Loosies, etc, etc

It's not a position for sisses on Facebook.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:17 pm
by Sards
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:28 am
Sards wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:07 am We lose its Libboks fault
If a team from any nation under-performs and loses, then the #10 is usually involved in the criticism. They miss kicks, can't get the backline moving, get mowed-down by rampaging Loosies, etc, etc

It's not a position for sisses on Facebook.
Nor here aparantley if your name is Manie Libbok.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:46 pm
by _Os_
I like it more when the Boks announce their team on Tuesday, not caring at all about mind games and showing the cards, then we can discuss the team a bit during the week leading up to the match. :sad:

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:52 pm
by OomStruisbaai
_Os_ wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:46 pm I like it more when the Boks announce their team on Tuesday, not caring at all about mind games and showing the cards, then we can discuss the team a bit during the week leading up to the match. :sad:
Its a WR world Cup ruling that keep them from announcing the team. If they get permission they will annouce it to night.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:13 pm
by Sards
Apparently announced

I think it's our B team. Pretty much the oldies getting their Adeau run . Damn.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:21 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Springboks – 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Cheslin Kolbe, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Duane Vermeulen, 22 Grant Williams, 23 Willie le Roux.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:48 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Looks weak

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:44 pm
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:48 pm Looks weak
Risky selections.

Rassie obviously reckons he can have 2 teams and still win the RWC

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:58 pm
by boere wors
Moodie and Kleyn injured apparently

I would have preferred Mapimpi on the wing instead of one of the midgets and AE at 12… also would have preferred 2 locks on the bench but with Kleyn out i guess it is fine like that.

Like that Willemse starts at 15

Go Bokke

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:52 pm
by TheNatalShark
Like the idea of Duane coming on as some of the stronger carriers in front row and Kolisi goes off.

Was really expecting Reinach on the bench

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:24 pm
by Sandstorm
TheNatalShark wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:52 pm Like the idea of Duane coming on as some of the stronger carriers in front row and Kolisi goes off.

Was really expecting Reinach on the bench
Reinach is too slow these days. He can play against Romania next weekend.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:52 pm
by OomStruisbaai
boere wors wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:58 pm Like that Willemse starts at 15

Go Bokke
This, I like.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:22 pm
by TheNatalShark
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:24 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:52 pm Like the idea of Duane coming on as some of the stronger carriers in front row and Kolisi goes off.

Was really expecting Reinach on the bench
Reinach is too slow these days. He can play against Romania next weekend.
Oh yeah, as much as I've slagged him off the last year I do think Williams is the better option, but thought where we had seen Reinach in the build ups meant he was higher in the pecking order.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:59 pm
by Sards
Friday must come now

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:01 am
by OomStruisbaai
Sards wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:59 pm Friday must come now
The game is on Sunday. You can watch it on SABC

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:47 am
by Chilli
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:01 am
Sards wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:59 pm Friday must come now
The game is on Sunday. You can watch it on SABC
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:48 am
by Chilli
boere wors wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:58 pm Moodie and Kleyn injured apparently

I would have preferred Mapimpi on the wing instead of one of the midgets and AE at 12… also would have preferred 2 locks on the bench but with Kleyn out i guess it is fine like that.

Like that Willemse starts at 15

Go Bokke
Willemse starting instead of Willie🙄😒😏

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:35 am
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:01 am
Sards wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:59 pm Friday must come now
The game is on Sunday. You can watch it on SABC
I'm in for the whole experience. Starting with ABs vs France

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:44 am
by Chilli
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:21 pm Springboks – 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Cheslin Kolbe, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Duane Vermeulen, 22 Grant Williams, 23 Willie le Roux.
https://rugby365.com/news-world-cup/sou ... explained/

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:40 am
by Slick
OK, I've reached the fear and loathing stage a bit earlier than usual.

Just desperate for a decent performance but not expecting much more.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:00 am
by TheNatalShark
Put on a bunch of £1 accas for the weekend games, all Scotland handicap within 10 (couldn't be bothered going to win outright tab)

And £1 @ 225 for France/Scotland final

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:15 am
by clydecloggie
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:40 am OK, I've reached the fear and loathing stage a bit earlier than usual.

Just desperate for a decent performance but not expecting much more.
Surprisingly, I'm still fully signed up to expecting both a brilliant Scotland performance and a loss at the same time, and have neither nerves nor The Fear as a result. It's decidedly weird and possibly unhealthy.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:22 am
by assfly
That bench.
That damn bench.
:twisted:

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:23 am
by Jock42
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:40 am OK, I've reached the fear and loathing stage a bit earlier than usual.

Just desperate for a decent performance but not expecting much more.
I'm still confident of a win. Unfortunately I'll need to avoid the score until my shift is done.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:08 am
by Slick
Jock42 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:23 am
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:40 am OK, I've reached the fear and loathing stage a bit earlier than usual.

Just desperate for a decent performance but not expecting much more.
I'm still confident of a win. Unfortunately I'll need to avoid the score until my shift is done.
Fucking love you Jock, you've got me right up for it again.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:14 am
by OomStruisbaai
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:08 am
Jock42 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:23 am
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:40 am OK, I've reached the fear and loathing stage a bit earlier than usual.

Just desperate for a decent performance but not expecting much more.
I'm still confident of a win. Unfortunately I'll need to avoid the score until my shift is done.
Fucking love you Jock, you've got me right up for it again.
About time you get fucking up for this test. Wearing a skirt wont help anybody. :twisted:

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:17 am
by Slick
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:14 am
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:08 am
Jock42 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:23 am

I'm still confident of a win. Unfortunately I'll need to avoid the score until my shift is done.
Fucking love you Jock, you've got me right up for it again.
About time you get fucking up for this test. Wearing a skirt wont help anybody. :twisted:
:lol:

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:45 am
by Biffer
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:14 am
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:08 am
Jock42 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:23 am

I'm still confident of a win. Unfortunately I'll need to avoid the score until my shift is done.
Fucking love you Jock, you've got me right up for it again.
About time you get fucking up for this test. Wearing a skirt wont help anybody. :twisted:
If that's the best you've got there's not going to be much spite in here.

Maybe it sounded better in that Dutch dialect you pretend is a language.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:48 am
by OomStruisbaai
Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:45 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:14 am
Slick wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:08 am

Fucking love you Jock, you've got me right up for it again.
About time you get fucking up for this test. Wearing a skirt wont help anybody. :twisted:
If that's the best you've got there's not going to be much spite in here.

Maybe it sounded better in that Dutch dialect you pretend is a language.
:oops: I am no good with this. Just saying.

Re: RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:40 am
by clydecloggie
As I said in the Scottish thread, I can't wait or this to start but have no hope, you guys are kryptonite to how Scotland play.

Maybe it would be easier if the spite was easy to conjure but it's tough to pretend to be spiteful against the country that gave us the Kgalagadi, Drakensberg, Mandela, Etzebeth, Kolisi, Van Der Merwe, Schoeman, Nel, Steyn and gave proper born Scot Huw Jones a good education.

All it would leave is to make fun of your general lack of intellect but that's a protected characteristic these days and I'm a law-abiding citizen.