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Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:29 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:29 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:20 pm
FM. Just in from work.
So did NZ suddenly become the spiritual guardians again or are Italy back to being the turd on the sole of the 6N?
Some of A, a little bit of B
Heady cocktail.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:30 pm
by Slick
Really didn’t want to go JMK here:
1) because we have been In similar situations
2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it
But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:32 pm
by sturginho
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:30 pm
Really didn’t want to go JMK here:
1) because we have been In similar situations
2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it
But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.
Dont worry about me mate I'm used to it by now (sadly)
I mean nemer is walking around completely gassed and he didn't even start the match, fat sack of shit that he is
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:32 pm
by Tichtheid
NZ will kick on now with DMac on the park
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:33 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:30 pm
Really didn’t want to go JMK here:
1) because we have been In similar situations
2
) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it
But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.
Mehh. None of us is responsible for his team's debacles or, in this case (from the mins I've seen), abject surrender.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:35 pm
by JM2K6
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:30 pm
Really didn’t want to go JMK here:
1) because we have been In similar situations
2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it
But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.
Anyone who takes criticism of the team's performance personally on a night like this is being very silly. I'm a Quins and England fan, I have plenty of expertise in gleefully mocking horrible performances by teams I'd really rather see play well.
Sturginho just bit on the "embarrassing the 6N" line, that's all.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:35 pm
by Paddington Bear
This Italian team lack the excuse of being wank as well, they can and have player much much better than this
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:36 pm
by PCPhil
Are Italy actually running backwards in the scrums?
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:36 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Hah. I was at that game at Gerland the last time ABs were in Lyon.
The score?
France 3, ABs.......................... 47
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:37 pm
by sturginho
Clearly it was worth leaving parisse out, his replacements have done so much better
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:38 pm
by Slick
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:35 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:30 pm
Really didn’t want to go JMK here:
1) because we have been In similar situations
2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it
But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.
Anyone who takes criticism of the team's performance personally on a night like this is being very silly. I'm a Quins and England fan, I have plenty of expertise in gleefully mocking horrible performances by teams I'd really rather see play well.
Sturginho just bit on the "embarrassing the 6N" line, that's all.
Sorry, not really having a go. Just know that whatever is said, you do take it a bit personally
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:38 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Jesus.
Throw in the towel FFS.
Oh wait. They already did.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:39 pm
by sturginho
Ah Luca
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
by JM2K6
sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:37 pm
Clearly it was worth leaving parisse out, his replacements have done so much better
This is one of those meltdown performances that suggests selection is irrelevant - something very fundamental went very very wrong somewhere. Preparation, scandal, a huge bust up... This sort of thing usually has a cause
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
by sockwithaticket
This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
by sturginho
Nemer you fat piece of shit!
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:41 pm
by C69
Jebus
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:41 pm
by PCPhil
Seriously, Namibia would put up a better performance than this bunch of spackers.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:42 pm
by JM2K6
All that aside, there isn't a team on the planet that would rack up this score in this situation. The All Blacks are built differently - even the current somewhat questionable team
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:42 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...
At least Namibia tried to tackle. There should be a stewards' enquiry.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:42 pm
by sturginho
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...
This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:43 pm
by Paddington Bear
Ton seems more likely than not
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:43 pm
by Tichtheid
I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:44 pm
by JM2K6
"Are you surprised by the margin of the difference between the two teams" great stuff there Ugo
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:44 pm
by Slick
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:37 pm
Clearly it was worth leaving parisse out, his replacements have done so much better
This is one of those meltdown performances that suggests selection is irrelevant - something very fundamental went very very wrong somewhere. Preparation, scandal, a huge bust up... This sort of thing usually has a cause
They looked well up for it before kick off, just unbelievable.
Re your other point, yes, no team keeps going line NZ
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:45 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:42 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...
This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)
You only scored 3
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:45 pm
by Big D
A 6N or 4N team losing a ton should see heads roll but I guess Crowley is leaving anyway.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:46 pm
by Slick
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:43 pm
I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference
I don’t know, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a capitulation like this from a tier 1 team
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:46 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Big D wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:45 pm
A 6N or 4N team losing a ton should see heads roll but I guess Crowley is leaving anyway.
To Aus?
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:47 pm
by Big D
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:46 pm
Big D wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:45 pm
A 6N or 4N team losing a ton should see heads roll but I guess Crowley is leaving anyway.
To Aus?
Not sure they've said. Just didn't renew his deal.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:47 pm
by sockwithaticket
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:43 pm
I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference
Don't agree with that. 50 or 60 can happen. We've seen tier 1 nations do that to each other on occasion, though usually with more points scored by the loser.
70 or 80 is beyond just being embarassed and drags you down into minnow tier 2 status. 90+ is unacceptable. It's a potential career breaker if only for what it can do to a player's psyche.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:48 pm
by sturginho
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:45 pm
sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:42 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm
This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...
This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)
You only scored 3
So we can consider this a success?
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:48 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:43 pm
I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference
I don’t know, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a capitulation like this from a tier 1 team
France shipping 59 at home to the Aussies in 2010 was up there. And I was at that one too
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:49 pm
by JM2K6
Eddie Jones and Steve Borthwick seeing the score and thinking the All Blacks must have kicked it a thousand times
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:49 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:48 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:45 pm
sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:42 pm
This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)
You only scored 3
So we can consider this a success?
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:49 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Come back on?
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:50 pm
by Blackmac
Actually celebrating that.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:50 pm
by JM2K6
Shame, really wanted to see the hundred, Carley missed an obvious seatbelt tackle on DMac.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:50 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:50 pm
Actually celebrating that.
You couldn't make it up.
Re: RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:51 pm
by Tichtheid
Italy have played their part in a 17 try thriller
