RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST

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Ymx
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A bit early

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Allez les bleus :twisted:
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Ymx
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If comes down to this.

Lose and we are gone.

Italy still peeved about the match abandoned last time which sent them packing.

They will be a very fired up Azzurri !!
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Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:56 am If comes down to this.

Lose and we are gone.

Italy still peeved about the match abandoned last time which sent them packing.

They will be a very fired up Azzurri !!
Imagine if this one is abandoned... we may go packing!
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Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:42 pm
Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:56 am If comes down to this.

Lose and we are gone.

Italy still peeved about the match abandoned last time which sent them packing.

They will be a very fired up Azzurri !!
Imagine if this one is abandoned... we may go packing!
I'm very nervous about this game. Something tells me Foster's got one more nasty surprise in store for us before he exits.

Ethan de Groot's banned for the next 2 games - Tamaiti Williams, come on down!

Sounds like Lomax might be ready, which is great news coz I've seen all I ever want to see of Nepo stuffing things up. Ofa may still have a few good games left in him, but would much prefer him on the bench rather than starting.
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Has banana skin written all over it. Just get a win without cards or injuries please. The rest is academic.
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Flockwitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:39 am Has banana skin written all over it. Just get a win without cards or injuries please. The rest is academic.
A 1-point win would be fine for me.
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Kiwias wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:07 am
Flockwitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:39 am Has banana skin written all over it. Just get a win without cards or injuries please. The rest is academic.
A 1-point win would be fine for me.
Yep, I'll take any scraps at this point.
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Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:55 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:42 pm
Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:56 am If comes down to this.

Lose and we are gone.

Italy still peeved about the match abandoned last time which sent them packing.

They will be a very fired up Azzurri !!
Imagine if this one is abandoned... we may go packing!
I'm very nervous about this game. Something tells me Foster's got one more nasty surprise in store for us before he exits.
It's like we're closing in on David Koresh at Waco... will this all end peacefully or is there one more nasty surprise waiting for us?

This is how he has made us feel!
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Are the two useless assistant coaches going with him? I thought they were the masterminds behind the ABs
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Jesus you lot, at least wait for us to play Uruguay before you start the mockers baiting
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sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:17 am Jesus you lot, at least wait for us to play Uruguay before you start the mockers baiting
It is a bit much, isn’t it?

I get it, Italy has improved and NZ is (relatively) mediocre by their standards but…come on….

ABs at a canter.
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Fonz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:08 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:17 am Jesus you lot, at least wait for us to play Uruguay before you start the mockers baiting
It is a bit much, isn’t it?
Still seven days till the game, bro. You ain't seen nothing yet. :wink:
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Fonz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:08 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:17 am Jesus you lot, at least wait for us to play Uruguay before you start the mockers baiting
It is a bit much, isn’t it?

I get it, Italy has improved and NZ is (relatively) mediocre by their standards but…come on….

ABs at a canter.
You do know Fozzie is coaching the ABs right? I'm still worried by the next two pool matches, there's still some records Foz hasn't managed to accumulate.
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At least Aus went out before us.
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Jethro wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:56 pm
Fonz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:08 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:17 am Jesus you lot, at least wait for us to play Uruguay before you start the mockers baiting
It is a bit much, isn’t it?

I get it, Italy has improved and NZ is (relatively) mediocre by their standards but…come on….

ABs at a canter.
You do know Fozzie is coaching the ABs right? I'm still worried by the next two pool matches, there's still some records Foz hasn't managed to accumulate.
Be thankful he isn't Eddie Jones?
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Jethro wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:56 pm
Fonz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:08 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:17 am Jesus you lot, at least wait for us to play Uruguay before you start the mockers baiting
It is a bit much, isn’t it?

I get it, Italy has improved and NZ is (relatively) mediocre by their standards but…come on….

ABs at a canter.
You do know Fozzie is coaching the ABs right? I'm still worried by the next two pool matches, there's still some records Foz hasn't managed to accumulate.
Fozzie still has some “legacy” left to give.
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The All Blacks might squeak past Italy, but the QFs is the end of the road.
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Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:06 am The All Blacks might squeak past Italy, but the QFs is the end of the road.
Don't have to be ashamed of the car I drive (at the end of the line)
I'm just glad to be here, happy to be alive (at the end of the line)
And it don't matter if you're by my side (at the end of the line)
I'm satisfied
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Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:06 am The All Blacks might squeak past Italy, but the QFs is the end of the road.
The AB's will win by 25 points!
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SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:08 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:06 am The All Blacks might squeak past Italy, but the QFs is the end of the road.
The AB's will win by 25 points!
With the amount of mockers baiting going on in this fred I make us favourites to win with a bonus point
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sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:50 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:08 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:06 am The All Blacks might squeak past Italy, but the QFs is the end of the road.
The AB's will win by 25 points!
With the amount of mockers baiting going on in this fred I make us favourites to win with a bonus point
:lol: :lol: :thumbup: hope so!
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SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:13 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:50 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:08 am
The AB's will win by 25 points!
With the amount of mockers baiting going on in this fred I make us favourites to win with a bonus point
:lol: :lol: :thumbup: hope so!
Clearly we have them rattled, they know the weather came to their rescue last time :think:
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Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:23 am At least Aus went out before us.
Assuming Fiji don't somehow implode :shifty:

The ABs should win this one, but you know Fozzie and his ability to snatch defeat etc.
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Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:23 am At least Aus went out before us.
Highly likely that Aus and NZ, with 5 RWC titles between them, will both be gone before the QFs.

Oh, the ignominy!
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Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:16 pm
Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:23 am At least Aus went out before us.
Highly likely that Aus and NZ, with 5 RWC titles between them, will both be gone before the QFs.

Oh, the ignominy!
Think of the learnings we'll be able to take away from that, though.
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Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:38 pm
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:16 pm
Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:23 am At least Aus went out before us.
Highly likely that Aus and NZ, with 5 RWC titles between them, will both be gone before the QFs.

Oh, the ignominy!
Think of the learnings we'll be able to take away from that, though.
Yep, learning our learnings is vitally important moving forward. Especially learnings in that space.
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sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:50 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:08 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:06 am The All Blacks might squeak past Italy, but the QFs is the end of the road.
The AB's will win by 25 points!
With the amount of mockers baiting going on in this fred I make us favourites to win with a bonus point
It'll be reverse mockers - the ABs will win the World Cup, Fozzie knighted, then offered the Australia job. :lol:
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Italia:

15 Tommaso ALLAN (Perpignan, 77 caps)
14 Ange CAPUOZZO (Stade Toulousain, 14 caps)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 28 caps)
12 Luca MORISI (Zebre, 48 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Lione, 23 caps)
10 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 29 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby, 22 caps)
8 Lorenzo CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 14 caps)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 31 caps) – capitano
6 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 50 caps)
5 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 47 caps)
4 Dino LAMB (Harlequins, 5 caps)
3 Marco RICCIONI (Saracens, 24 caps)
2 Giacomo NICOTERA (Benetton Rugby, 17 caps)
1 Danilo FISCHETTI (Zebre Parma, 35 caps)

Squadra bomba:

16 Epalahame FAIVA (svincolato, 8 caps)
17 Ivan NEMER (Benetton Rugby, 15 caps)
18 Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 48 caps)
19 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 34 caps)
20 Manuel ZULIANI (Benetton Rugby, 15 caps)
21 Toa HALAFIHI (Benetton Rugby, 11 caps)
22 Martin PAGE-RELO (Lione, 3 caps)
23 Paolo ODOGWU (Benetton Rugby, 5 caps)
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All Blacks:

1-Ofa Tu'ungafasi, 2-Codie Taylor, 3-Nepo Laulala, 4-Brodie Retallick, 5-Scott Barrett, 6-Shannon Frizell, 7-Dalton Papali'i, 8-Ardie Savea (c), 9-Aaron Smith, 10-Richie Mo'unga, 11-Mark Telea, 12-Jordie Barrett, 13-Rieko Ioane, 14-Will Jordan, 15-Beauden Barrett

Reserves: 16-Dane Coles, 17-Tamaiti Williams, 18-Tyrel Lomax, 19-Sam Whitelock, 20-Sam Cane, 21-Cam Roigard, 22-Damian McKenzie, 23-Anton Lienert-Brown
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Ta.

Flattened out

All Blacks:

1-Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2-Codie Taylor
3-Nepo Laulala
4-Brodie Retallick
5-Scott Barrett
6-Shannon Frizell
7-Dalton Papali'i
8-Ardie Savea (c)
9-Aaron Smith
10-Richie Mo'unga
11-Mark Tele
12-Jordie Barrett
13-Rieko Ioane
14-Will Jordan
15-Beauden Barrett

Reserves:
16-Dane Coles
17-Tamaiti Williams
18-Tyrel Lomax
19-Sam Whitelock
20-Sam Cane
21-Cam Roigard
22-Damian McKenzie
23-Anton Lienert-Brown
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sturginho wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:23 am Italia:

15 Tommaso ALLAN (Perpignan, 77 caps)
14 Ange CAPUOZZO (Stade Toulousain, 14 caps)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 28 caps)
12 Luca MORISI (Zebre, 48 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Lione, 23 caps)
10 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 29 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby, 22 caps)
8 Lorenzo CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 14 caps)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 31 caps) – capitano
6 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 50 caps)
5 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 47 caps)
4 Dino LAMB (Harlequins, 5 caps)
3 Marco RICCIONI (Saracens, 24 caps)
2 Giacomo NICOTERA (Benetton Rugby, 17 caps)
1 Danilo FISCHETTI (Zebre Parma, 35 caps)

Squadra bomba:

16 Epalahame FAIVA (svincolato, 8 caps)
17 Ivan NEMER (Benetton Rugby, 15 caps)
18 Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 48 caps)
19 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 34 caps)
20 Manuel ZULIANI (Benetton Rugby, 15 caps)
21 Toa HALAFIHI (Benetton Rugby, 11 caps)
22 Martin PAGE-RELO (Lione, 3 caps)
23 Paolo ODOGWU (Benetton Rugby, 5 caps)
Can you give us a run down on your thoughts of that team?
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My understanding is that like the AB one it’s about as good as they could put out. Should be all on.
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Flockwitt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:28 pm My understanding is that like the AB one it’s about as good as they could put out. Should be all on.
Yes he's put out his best team, although (in my head at least) it makes more sense to have Tommy at 10 and Garbisi 12 but hey ho.

I think it's also the strongest bench that Italy have ever been able to put out
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:thumbup: should be a good'un
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Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:52 pm Ta.

Flattened out

All Blacks:

1-Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2-Codie Taylor
3-Nepo Laulala
4-Brodie Retallick
5-Scott Barrett
6-Shannon Frizell
7-Dalton Papali'i
8-Ardie Savea (c)
9-Aaron Smith
10-Richie Mo'unga
11-Mark Tele
12-Jordie Barrett
13-Rieko Ioane
14-Will Jordan
15-Beauden Barrett

Reserves:
16-Dane Coles
17-Tamaiti Williams
18-Tyrel Lomax
19-Sam Whitelock
20-Sam Cane
21-Cam Roigard
22-Damian McKenzie
23-Anton Lienert-Brown
Really don't have any arguments against that team selection, besides BB at fullback rather than Jordan.
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ABs by 40. Can't really see anything else happening.
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boere wors wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:22 pm ABs by 40. Can't really see anything else happening.
Suure...

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boere wors wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:22 pm ABs by 40. Can't really see anything else happening.
A less than 20 pts. deafeat would be a success: the best score in 15 years and the best Italy can achieve.
With a red card to Scott Barrett after 20 minutes and keeping the game as tight as possible it would be likely.
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