NPR

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:59 am

handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:55 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:49 am

They are not used to winning?

Could be. I think it's a deeper feeling of inadequacy. Must be tough living your life like that.

Sucks to be you ne

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:12 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:52 pm

How many young black players were develope in KZN?

Nohamba, Jordan and Jaden Hendrickse, Fez Mbatha, Phepdi Buthelezi , Celempilo Gumede, Caleb Dingaan ball played junior boks last couple of years.

How many of them are in your match day 23 for the final?

The Bulls and WP have developed by far the most PoCs via their youth structures the last decade.

The Sharks poach the senior lot from the Cheetahs, Kings, Pumas, Griquas and the WP old age homers. They dont have a team in the Varsity Cup which is nowadays the fabric of rugby players.

Thats why they need those investments.

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:20 am I strongly believe we will win this weekend. if we don't the cherry on the cake was humbling WP

handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:41 am

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:20 am I strongly believe we will win this weekend. if we don't the cherry on the cake was humbling WP

I hate to be the one pointing this out, but look, again you are posting about WP. You are playing the Bulls in the CC final, yet WP is all you can think about.

Let it go, boet.

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:33 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:04 pm I saw a stat somewhere today that the Sharks have the best transformation record this year, and the Bulls amongst the worst.

Strange the JW and the team seem more interested in luring older white players back to Pretoria than investing in developing young black players from the local environs.

Link if you will?

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:32 am

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:33 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:04 pm I saw a stat somewhere today that the Sharks have the best transformation record this year, and the Bulls amongst the worst.

Strange the JW and the team seem more interested in luring older white players back to Pretoria than investing in developing young black players from the local environs.

Link if you will?

Found it eventually

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:32 am

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:33 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:04 pm I saw a stat somewhere today that the Sharks have the best transformation record this year, and the Bulls amongst the worst.

Strange the JW and the team seem more interested in luring older white players back to Pretoria than investing in developing young black players from the local environs.

Link if you will?

Found it eventually

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:06 am % is suppose to add up to 100? Is the difference Mexicans%

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:12 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:06 am % is suppose to add up to 100? Is the difference Mexicans%

Ja boet soutie percentage adds up to 100 but Paarl percentage adds up to 200

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:17 am Keo is a soutpiel. He misuse figures. Vokken stupid idiot.Coloures mean vokkol to him and you believe his kak. Its where Sards stats come from.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:06 am

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:32 am

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:33 pm

Link if you will?

Found it eventually

% is suppose to add up to 100? Is the difference Mexicans%

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:10 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:12 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:52 pm

How many young black players were develope in KZN?

Nohamba, Jordan and Jaden Hendrickse, Fez Mbatha, Phepdi Buthelezi , Celempilo Gumede, Caleb Dingaan ball played junior boks last couple of years.

How many of them are in your match day 23 for the final?

The Bulls and WP have developed by far the most PoCs via their youth structures the last decade.

The Sharks poach the senior lot from the Cheetahs, Kings, Pumas, Griquas and the WP old age homers. They dont have a team in the Varsity Cup which is nowadays the fabric of rugby players.

Thats why they need those investments.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:22 am

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:10 am

I don't doubt it.

My cousin's stepson's best mate was the brother of B.J. Botha who was getting a reputation as very good scrummager as prop. As they went down to scrum against the Bulls, Victor Matfield punched him and broke his jaw, putting him out for a few weeks and effectively ending his Springbok career.

I think he ended up playing for Munster.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:28 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:12 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm
Nohamba, Jordan and Jaden Hendrickse, Fez Mbatha, Phepdi Buthelezi , Celempilo Gumede, Caleb Dingaan ball played junior boks last couple of years.

How many of them are in your match day 23 for the final?

The Bulls and WP have developed by far the most PoCs via their youth structures the last decade.

The Sharks poach the senior lot from the Cheetahs, Kings, Pumas, Griquas and the WP old age homers. They dont have a team in the Varsity Cup which is nowadays the fabric of rugby players.

Thats why they need those investments.

Maybe if UKZN had someone like Jurie Roux, they could illegally fund their rugby program to the tune of R38mill. Thats a lot of scholarships.

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:30 am

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:22 am

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:10 am

I don't doubt it.

My cousin's stepson's best mate was the brother of B.J. Botha who was getting a reputation as very good scrummager as prop. As they went down to scrum against the Bulls, Victor Matfield punched him and broke his jaw, putting him out for a few weeks and effectively ending his Springbok career.

I think he ended up playing for Munster.

Not much difference in arm sizes.

Just height and density in the head...

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 am Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:47 am

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 am Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

The Sharks....at the forefront of proffessional rugby in South Africa......

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 am Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:47 am Ok look, the saarks chatter on here is mostly : WP is kak, WP is bankkrot, WP this, WP that.

Time for some proper rugby talk.

Key match ups :

Gqoboka vs Du Toit : Advantage Bulls if the game is loose, but finals rarely are, scrumming more important, so advantage saarks.
Van Staden vs Richardson : Advantage Bulls by a long, LONG way. To me, the clincher.
Vermeulen vs Notshe : Advantage Bulls. Notshe is a bigger asset when the game is loose, possibly of the bench as well. Vermeulen is a beast and will lift for the final.
Steyn vs Bosch : Even. Steyn is the old hand and used to pressure games, Bosch longer with kicks out of hand and to touch. If I had to choose, it would be Steyn.
White vs Everitt : Advantage Bulls. Jake's been there, done it, got the t-shirt and sold it to Everitt. White has won the RWC, Everitt has resorted to dodgy tactics to avoid WP to get to the final.

Sards wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:07 pm

handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:47 am Ok look, the saarks chatter on here is mostly : WP is kak, WP is bankkrot, WP this, WP that.

Time for some proper rugby talk.

Key match ups :

Gqoboka vs Du Toit : Advantage Bulls if the game is loose, but finals rarely are, scrumming more important, so advantage saarks.
Van Staden vs Richardson : Advantage Bulls by a long, LONG way. To me, the clincher.
Vermeulen vs Notshe : Advantage Bulls. Notshe is a bigger asset when the game is loose, possibly of the bench as well. Vermeulen is a beast and will lift for the final.
Steyn vs Bosch : Even. Steyn is the old hand and used to pressure games, Bosch longer with kicks out of hand and to touch. If I had to choose, it would be Steyn.
White vs Everitt : Advantage Bulls. Jake's been there, done it, got the t-shirt and sold it to Everitt. White has won the RWC, Everitt has resorted to dodgy tactics to avoid WP to get to the final.

Thanks for that...we will bear that in mind

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:56 am

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 am Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

I agree.

Our backline is a joy to watch in action.

Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday.

Hopefully that will be rectified tomorrow.

handyman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:47 am Ok look, the saarks chatter on here is mostly : WP is kak, WP is bankkrot, WP this, WP that.

Time for some proper rugby talk.

Key match ups :

Gqoboka vs Du Toit : Advantage Bulls if the game is loose, but finals rarely are, scrumming more important, so advantage saarks.
Van Staden vs Richardson : Advantage Bulls by a long, LONG way. To me, the clincher.
Vermeulen vs Notshe : Advantage Bulls. Notshe is a bigger asset when the game is loose, possibly of the bench as well. Vermeulen is a beast and will lift for the final.
Steyn vs Bosch : Even. Steyn is the old hand and used to pressure games, Bosch longer with kicks out of hand and to touch. If I had to choose, it would be Steyn.
White vs Everitt : Advantage Bulls. Jake's been there, done it, got the t-shirt and sold it to Everitt. White has won the RWC, Everitt has resorted to dodgy tactics to avoid WP to get to the final.

Chilli wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:36 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:56 am

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 am Haven't come across many supporters yet that are glad the Sharks have an increasingly representative team of pop.

Those interested enough in discussing just go through another avenue, ie 'they aren't all local", to try and justify their "views" and make the demo out as negative and simply representative of quotas or government interference. They rarely care about the local production lines when it comes to white players, and if they do, are willing to just joke about it rather than spew vitriol.

Not that I am levelling that at anyone here

I for one am glad. Our best players, in my opinion, are black. I'm glad they are good and have had chances at the Sharks. Call me if whatever.

I agree.

Our backline is a joy to watch in action.

Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday.

Hopefully that will be rectified tomorrow.

Yes. It is a joy to watch
Nohamba passes (poorly) to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.
Or, a bit more joyous to watch;
Che Guevara pass to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:13 am
I think there's still a tendency to think of KZN as not being a proper rugby playing province.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:46 pm Bitterness over your defeat is very unbecoming.

However, I suspect that the fact that it was at the hands of a province which is seen as historically weak which causes a lot of the rancour.

I'm not a big fan of the kicking game, as I thought I'd made clear.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:23 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:36 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:56 am

I agree.

Our backline is a joy to watch in action.

Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday.

Hopefully that will be rectified tomorrow.

Yes. It is a joy to watch
Nohamba passes (poorly) to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.
Or, a bit more joyous to watch;
Che Guevara pass to Bosch. Bosch kicks the ball away.

If you read what I posted, I said "Just a pity we didn't see much of it last Saturday." I thought the implication was clear, but apparently not.

If you are seriously suggesting that Nkosi, Mapimpi, Fassi and Mvovu are not worth watching, then you are entitled to your opinion, but I can't say I agree.