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Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:29 pm**

Not quite sure why Tigers just took off both their props.

EDIT: Feel like i'm watching the wrong game.

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:33 pm**

Sleightholme with his hat trick score shortly after Exeter have one chalked off.

No doubt Baxter will be asking his charges on Monday morning how it was they let such a commanding lead get whittled away.

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:43 pm**

Exeter into the lead. Couple of dodgy looking offloads in the build up, mind...

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:47 pm**

Too many errors from Tigers. Game not over due to poor execution. I think Chessum has been Tigers best player.

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:48 pm**

Sarries props are just utter gash and Farrell has been dire.

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:51 pm**

Last gasp score for Saints to take it. Prime Super rugby basketball type scoreline, fun match.

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:55 pm**

Sarries barely fired a shot in that second half

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:56 pm**

petej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:47 pm Too many errors from Tigers. Game not over due to poor execution. I think Chessum has been Tigers best player.

Youngs was absolutely dog turd when he came on - wrong options and poor execution/passing. Tigers should have won by far more. Sarries showed some nice backline moves but were constantly under pressure.

Unbelievable game at Sandy Park with Saints nicking it at the death 40-36 to go top of the table.

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:58 pm**

Well played Saints. Didn't see that coming after the 1st half display
Mitchell made a hell od difference when he came on

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:18 pm**

Mitchell and Freeman both had a big impact.

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:29 pm**

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:18 pm Mitchell and Freeman both had a big impact.

Both will/should be in the 6N England squad. Was listening to the BBC rugby weekly pod and was kind of surprised that when asked about England selection they mentioned so few younger players and still mentioning the likes of May, Daly, Manu etc..

Posted: **Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:47 pm**

petej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:29 pm
Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:18 pm Mitchell and Freeman both had a big impact.
Both will/should be in the 6N England squad. Was listening to the BBC rugby weekly pod and was kind of surprised that when asked about England selection they mentioned so few younger players and still mentioning the likes of May, Daly, Manu etc..

All contemporaries/mates of the contributors. And Chris Jones as presenter is a big 'experience matters, pick the best team for right now rather than the future' guy. Which isn't inherently wrong, but I think sometimes people with that mindset undervalue the form of younger players and overvalue the experience of established ones.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:54 am**

Immanuel Feyi-Waboso seems to have chosen England. Lets hope he's good at chasing box kicks.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:18 pm**

tc27 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:54 am Immanuel Feyi-Waboso seems to have chosen England. Lets hope he's good at chasing box kicks.

Whilst we won't be reluctant to kick it, with no Farrell, there's a chance we'll actually play a bit too.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:27 pm**

petej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:29 pm
Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:18 pm Mitchell and Freeman both had a big impact.
Both will/should be in the 6N England squad. Was listening to the BBC rugby weekly pod and was kind of surprised that when asked about England selection they mentioned so few younger players and still mentioning the likes of May, Daly, Manu etc..

May at least has retired, and with Arundell not available for selection there are at least two squad spots available from the WC squad.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:05 pm**

geordie_6 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:27 pm
petej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:29 pm
Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:18 pm Mitchell and Freeman both had a big impact.
Both will/should be in the 6N England squad. Was listening to the BBC rugby weekly pod and was kind of surprised that when asked about England selection they mentioned so few younger players and still mentioning the likes of May, Daly, Manu etc..
May at least has retired, and with Arundell not available for selection there are at least two squad spots available from the WC squad.

It'd be criminal if Furbank and Freeman aren't involved in the match day squads - but I wouldn't be surprised to see Big Joe and Watson on the wings. I suspect Borthers will take the conservative option in most cases.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:23 pm**

Quite a few spots up for grabs from the last squad

Henry Arundell - unavailable
Danny Care
Ollie Chessum
Dan Cole
Tom Curry - injured
Elliot Daly
Theo Dan
Ben Earl
Owen Farrell - international retirement
George Ford
Ellis Genge - injured
Jamie George
Courtney Lawes - international retirement
Ollie Lawrence
Lewis Ludlam - injured
Max Malins
Joe Marchant - unavailable
Joe Marler
George Martin
Jonny May - international retirement
Alex Mitchell
Maro Itoje
David Ribbans - unavailable
Bevan Rodd - injured
Kyle Sinckler
Marcus Smith
Freddie Steward
Will Stuart
Manu Tuilagi - injured
Sam Underhill
Jack Walker
Anthony Watson
Jack Willis - unavailabvle
Jack van Poortvliet - injured
Billy Vunipola
Ben Youngs

Not sure how long term some of the injuries are.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:03 pm**

It will never cease to baffle me that McConnochie got capped ahead of Muir. Hell, I think Muir should have all the caps that were squandered on Cokanasiga. A much better all round player.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:04 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:23 pm Quite a few spots up for grabs from the last squad

Henry Arundell - unavailable
Danny Care
Ollie Chessum
Dan Cole
Tom Curry - injured
Elliot Daly
Theo Dan
Ben Earl
Owen Farrell - international retirement
George Ford
Ellis Genge - injured
Jamie George
Courtney Lawes - international retirement
Ollie Lawrence
Lewis Ludlam - injured
Max Malins
Joe Marchant - unavailable
Joe Marler
George Martin
Jonny May - international retirement
Alex Mitchell
Maro Itoje
David Ribbans - unavailable
Bevan Rodd - injured
Kyle Sinckler
Marcus Smith
Freddie Steward
Will Stuart
Manu Tuilagi - injured
Sam Underhill
Jack Walker
Anthony Watson
Jack Willis - unavailabvle
Jack van Poortvliet - injured
Billy Vunipola
Ben Youngs

Not sure how long term some of the injuries are.

I thought Youngs had retired from internationals (and Cole).

https://www.tntsports.co.uk/rugby/world ... tory.shtml

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:06 pm**

Ovals wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:05 pm
geordie_6 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:27 pm
petej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:29 pm

Both will/should be in the 6N England squad. Was listening to the BBC rugby weekly pod and was kind of surprised that when asked about England selection they mentioned so few younger players and still mentioning the likes of May, Daly, Manu etc..
May at least has retired, and with Arundell not available for selection there are at least two squad spots available from the WC squad.
It'd be criminal if Furbank and Freeman aren't involved in the match day squads - but I wouldn't be surprised to see Big Joe and Watson on the wings. I suspect Borthers will take the conservative option in most cases.

Is it worth having a look at Ollie Sleightholme?

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:07 pm**

petej wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:04 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:23 pm Quite a few spots up for grabs from the last squad

Henry Arundell - unavailable
Danny Care
Ollie Chessum
Dan Cole
Tom Curry - injured
Elliot Daly
Theo Dan
Ben Earl
Owen Farrell - international retirement
George Ford
Ellis Genge - injured
Jamie George
Courtney Lawes - international retirement
Ollie Lawrence
Lewis Ludlam - injured
Max Malins
Joe Marchant - unavailable
Joe Marler
George Martin
Jonny May - international retirement
Alex Mitchell
Maro Itoje
David Ribbans - unavailable
Bevan Rodd - injured
Kyle Sinckler
Marcus Smith
Freddie Steward
Will Stuart
Manu Tuilagi - injured
Sam Underhill
Jack Walker
Anthony Watson
Jack Willis - unavailabvle
Jack van Poortvliet - injured
Billy Vunipola
Ben Youngs

Not sure how long term some of the injuries are.
I thought Youngs had retired from internationals (and Cole).

I thought I may have imagined the Youngs announcement in a fit of wishful thinking, so didn't put it down...

Cole hasn't made any sort of announcement afaik. The only result I get from 'Dan Cole retire' is speculation from the notoriously clickbaity Ruck.co.uk

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:12 pm**

dumb from Bath not to score there.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:16 pm**

Russell has had a particularly mixed game today it feels like. Shooting de Glanville in the face with a pass like that was poor.

Cokanasiga has also been rubbish.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:23 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:16 pm Russell has had a particularly mixed game today it feels like. Shooting de Glanville in the face with a pass like that was poor.

Cokanasiga has also been rubbish.

Yep, I'm not seeing why so many rate him so highly.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:27 pm**

petej wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:23 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:16 pm Russell has had a particularly mixed game today it feels like. Shooting de Glanville in the face with a pass like that was poor.

Cokanasiga has also been rubbish.
Yep, I'm not seeing why so many rate him so highly.

Big EQP with Islander heritage; I think there's been a lot of wishful thinking about him being the next Manu Tuilagi and casual observers, not to mention the press, haven't let reality get in the way of the narrative.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:33 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:27 pm
petej wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:23 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:16 pm Russell has had a particularly mixed game today it feels like. Shooting de Glanville in the face with a pass like that was poor.

Cokanasiga has also been rubbish.
Yep, I'm not seeing why so many rate him so highly.
Big EQP with Islander heritage; I think there's been a lot of wishful thinking about him being the next Manu Tuilagi and casual observers, not to mention the press, haven't let reality get in the way of the narrative.

More Vainikolo than peak Tuilagi.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:41 pm**

Oh my goodness, what a dreadful flub from Hastings. That's the game barring something spectacular that Glaws have thus far seemed incapable of.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:46 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:41 pm Oh my goodness, what a dreadful flub from Hastings. That's the game barring something spectacular that Glaws have thus far seemed incapable of.

Gloucester's inability to reliably execute what should be basic passes has been a problem all game.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:50 pm**

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:46 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:41 pm Oh my goodness, what a dreadful flub from Hastings. That's the game barring something spectacular that Glaws have thus far seemed incapable of.
Gloucester's inability to reliably execute what should be basic passes has been a problem all game.

They're clearly in a rut at the moment and their table position is well earned. Perhaps time for Skivington to move on, but then who would he be replaced with?

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:24 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:27 pm
petej wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:23 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:16 pm Russell has had a particularly mixed game today it feels like. Shooting de Glanville in the face with a pass like that was poor.

Cokanasiga has also been rubbish.
Yep, I'm not seeing why so many rate him so highly.
Big EQP with Islander heritage; I think there's been a lot of wishful thinking about him being the next Manu Tuilagi and casual observers, not to mention the press, haven't let reality get in the way of the narrative.

I’ve laid turds harder than him. He’s soft and lazy.

Posted: **Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:03 pm**

Raggs wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:18 pm
tc27 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:54 am Immanuel Feyi-Waboso seems to have chosen England. Lets hope he's good at chasing box kicks.

Whilst we won't be reluctant to kick it, with no Farrell, there's a chance we'll actually play a bit too.

When he didn’t play in the world cup, we kicked the leather off it. When he didn’t play in the 6N, we recorded our worst ever Championship defeat. But sure, it’s all his fault

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:42 pm**

No rugby at Nottingham RFC this weekend!!! Should imagine there ared a few clubs in the same predicament after the recent weather.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:13 pm**

I've certainly had a couple of fundraiser links sent my way for clubs affected by flooding.

In other news, the England A coaching team have been announced.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... head-coach

Skivington as head, Waldouck on defence and Vesty for attack.

Given Gloucester's on field performance over the last season and a half, it seems like a pretty rubbish appointment for the newly resurrected A-side.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:19 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:13 pm I've certainly had a couple of fundraiser links sent my way for clubs affected by flooding.

In other news, the England A coaching team have been announced.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... head-coach

Skivington as head, Waldouck on defence and Vesty for attack.

Given Gloucester's on field performance over the last season and a half, it seems like a pretty rubbish appointment for the newly resurrected A-side.

Maybe no other club was willing to let their coach go on a jolly, glaws might be sharpening the knife.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:22 pm**

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:19 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:13 pm I've certainly had a couple of fundraiser links sent my way for clubs affected by flooding.

In other news, the England A coaching team have been announced.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... head-coach

Skivington as head, Waldouck on defence and Vesty for attack.

Given Gloucester's on field performance over the last season and a half, it seems like a pretty rubbish appointment for the newly resurrected A-side.
Maybe no other club was willing to let their coach go on a jolly, glaws might be sharpening the knife.

True, you can only select from those who are permitted to make themselves available.

I've certainly caught Glaws fans commenting that it's time for him to go over the last few weeks.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:28 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:13 pm I've certainly had a couple of fundraiser links sent my way for clubs affected by flooding.

In other news, the England A coaching team have been announced.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... head-coach

Skivington as head, Waldouck on defence and Vesty for attack.

Given Gloucester's on field performance over the last season and a half, it seems like a pretty rubbish appointment for the newly resurrected A-side.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:19 pm**

George Ford hasn't travelled with Sale to S Africa for their match this weekend.
Evidently tweaked a knee towards the end of the match against Saints 2 weeks ago that requires rehab and injections on an MCL injury!!

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:40 pm**

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:19 pm George Ford hasn't travelled with Sale to S Africa for their match this weekend.
Evidently tweaked a knee towards the end of the match against Saints 2 weeks ago that requires rehab and injections on an MCL injury!!

Start the 6N with the Smiths and keep Ford for when it starts to get to the sharp end? Any prediction on how long the injury will take to resolve?

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:58 pm**

Raggs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:40 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:19 pm George Ford hasn't travelled with Sale to S Africa for their match this weekend.
Evidently tweaked a knee towards the end of the match against Saints 2 weeks ago that requires rehab and injections on an MCL injury!!
Start the 6N with the Smiths and keep Ford for when it starts to get to the sharp end? Any prediction on how long the injury will take to resolve?

Sanderson wouldn't make a prediction

“It’s an MCL, a very low-grade MCL which you can stiffen up with injections, some plasma and stiffen your ligaments up. I’m not going to get medical, technical because I’ll get it wrong – but he is making a good recovery.”

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:08 pm**

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:28 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:13 pm I've certainly had a couple of fundraiser links sent my way for clubs affected by flooding.

In other news, the England A coaching team have been announced.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/artic ... head-coach

Skivington as head, Waldouck on defence and Vesty for attack.

Given Gloucester's on field performance over the last season and a half, it seems like a pretty rubbish appointment for the newly resurrected A-side.

Here's hoping he supplants Wigglesworth sooner rather than later.

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