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sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:23 pm Pleased for Muir, he should've been capped ahead of both McConnochie and Cokanasiga when it comes to Bath wingers. Big opportunity for him.

Even bigger for Ojomoh given the lack of clearcut 12 options.

A little surprised Blamire was still in the frame.

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:30 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:23 pm Pleased for Muir, he should've been capped ahead of both McConnochie and Cokanasiga when it comes to Bath wingers. Big opportunity for him.

Even bigger for Ojomoh given the lack of clearcut 12 options.

A little surprised Blamire was still in the frame.

Langdon is going to regret his red card on Saturday. Reckon he was next cab off the rank and not Blamire

England are set to be without centre Ollie Lawrence and hooker Luke Cowan-Dickie for their Six Nations opener against Italy.
Both picked up injuries in last weekend's Investec Champions Cup and have withdrawn from the training camp in Girona.
England have called up Newcastle's Jamie Blamire and the Bath pair of centre Max Ojomoh and wing Will Muir.

Harlequins centre Oscar Beard is going through return-to-play protocols after concussion but has travelled to northern Spain.

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:07 pm Max Ojomoh is in the England squad! Because Ollie Lawrence is broken.

Along with beard and LCD. Muir and blamire have been called up.

Punter15 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:22 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:07 pm Max Ojomoh is in the England squad! Because Ollie Lawrence is broken.

Along with beard and LCD. Muir and blamire have been called up.

Borthers outdoing Eddie at every turn.

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:34 pm

Punter15 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:22 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:07 pm Max Ojomoh is in the England squad! Because Ollie Lawrence is broken.

Along with beard and LCD. Muir and blamire have been called up.

Borthers outdoing Eddie at every turn.

Think these were all down to the matches they played at the weekend, rather than anything borthers has done.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:52 am Lawrence the new Tuilagi?

Oxbow wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:57 pm Langdon gets four weeks, not the outcome I was hoping for.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:29 pm

Oxbow wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:57 pm Langdon gets four weeks, not the outcome I was hoping for.

Unlucky.
Am assuming he was done for recklessness and not intentional?
Saints are going to be buggered over the next few weeks with international call ups as well.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:31 am I was just looking through the lineups for the match tonight, Quins v Tiggers, and there is a guy selected who has really caught my eye whenever I’ve seen him play - Fin Baxter, the baby-faced assassin. He made a right mess of the Ulster front row last week. I see he’s just 21 years old, he is going to be a player.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:31 am I was just looking through the lineups for the match tonight, Quins v Tiggers, and there is a guy selected who has really caught my eye whenever I’ve seen him play - Fin Baxter, the baby-faced assassin. He made a right mess of the Ulster front row last week. I see he’s just 21 years old, he is going to be a player.

Ovals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:47 pm Isiekwe out (ill), Ewels in. Thought we'd seen the last of Ewels

Ovals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:47 pm Isiekwe out (ill), Ewels in. Thought we'd seen the last of Ewels

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:52 pm

Ovals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:47 pm Isiekwe out (ill), Ewels in. Thought we'd seen the last of Ewels

Isiekwe shouldn't have been there anyway!
To be fair on Ewels he's been playing pretty well for Bath recently when I've watched them

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:31 am I was just looking through the lineups for the match tonight, Quins v Tiggers, and there is a guy selected who has really caught my eye whenever I’ve seen him play - Fin Baxter, the baby-faced assassin. He made a right mess of the Ulster front row last week. I see he’s just 21 years old, he is going to be a player.

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:53 pm

Ovals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:47 pm Isiekwe out (ill), Ewels in. Thought we'd seen the last of Ewels

Never quite got the hate for Ewels, he's a good player, and the stupid red card was very much out of character.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:41 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:53 pm

Ovals wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:47 pm Isiekwe out (ill), Ewels in. Thought we'd seen the last of Ewels

Never quite got the hate for Ewels, he's a good player, and the stupid red card was very much out of character.

He was usually an empty shirt and his most positive impact on the team was that red card. At international level he's offered absolutely nothing.

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:06 pm WTF is it with that commentator? She looks like she has just escaped from a gimp party.

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:32 pm The drop in quality between Smith and Care and the backup 9 and 10 is huge....Quins looked just aimless for large parts of that game.

Raggs wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:53 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:32 pm The drop in quality between Smith and Care and the backup 9 and 10 is huge....Quins looked just aimless for large parts of that game.

Isn't porter their backup 9?

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:39 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:41 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:53 pm

Never quite got the hate for Ewels, he's a good player, and the stupid red card was very much out of character.

He was usually an empty shirt and his most positive impact on the team was that red card. At international level he's offered absolutely nothing.

Along with a fair few in that team who don't get the same vitriol.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:30 am Jarrod Evans is straight back from a long injury layoff and barely had time to develop any partnerships before he got injured anyway. He did not look fit. Max Green was an emergency signing and some way off Porter's standard.

Played like twats and should have won regardless. Far too many unforced errors. Hohum.

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:39 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:41 pm

He was usually an empty shirt and his most positive impact on the team was that red card. At international level he's offered absolutely nothing.

Along with a fair few in that team who don't get the same vitriol.

Like who? Even the most maligned players under Eddie did something!

inactionman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:44 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:30 am Jarrod Evans is straight back from a long injury layoff and barely had time to develop any partnerships before he got injured anyway. He did not look fit. Max Green was an emergency signing and some way off Porter's standard.

Played like twats and should have won regardless. Far too many unforced errors. Hohum.

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:39 pm

Along with a fair few in that team who don't get the same vitriol.

Like who? Even the most maligned players under Eddie did something!

Seeing as he's the subject of the discussion, we could maybe start with Nick Iseikwe. We could add Jack Walker if we wished. We also had the majority of backs playing like they'd never met each other before.

Still not sure about Ewels doing nothing, he's won his lineouts, made his tackles, locked his scrums and hit his rucks - what he's there for. The way people are talking about him it's like he dropped the ball every time it went near him and slipped off every tackle. That's just not the case.

inactionman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:44 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:30 am Jarrod Evans is straight back from a long injury layoff and barely had time to develop any partnerships before he got injured anyway. He did not look fit. Max Green was an emergency signing and some way off Porter's standard.

Played like twats and should have won regardless. Far too many unforced errors. Hohum.

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:39 pm

Along with a fair few in that team who don't get the same vitriol.

Like who? Even the most maligned players under Eddie did something!

Seeing as he's the subject of the discussion, we could maybe start with Nick Iseikwe. We could add Jack Walker if we wished. We also had the majority of backs playing like they'd never met each other before.

Still not sure about Ewels doing nothing, he's won his lineouts, made his tackles, locked his scrums and hit his rucks - what he's there for. The way people are talking about him it's like he dropped the ball every time it went near him and slipped off every tackle. That's just not the case.

Oxbow wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:23 am My main problem with Ewels was he kept getting picked after a series of ordinary performances when much better locks were being ignored. To be fair that's not his fault.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 am Ewels has been better recently. He’s got the best part of 30 caps, seemingly because he looks like a central casting English lock, and his only contribution of note was spurring England on to their most intense performance in a fair while courtesy of being sent off.

We justifiably expect higher standards from our second rows, and IMO we’ve seen enough of him and should try other options.

SaintK wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:08 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 am Ewels has been better recently. He’s got the best part of 30 caps, seemingly because he looks like a central casting English lock, and his only contribution of note was spurring England on to their most intense performance in a fair while courtesy of being sent off.

We justifiably expect higher standards from our second rows, and IMO we’ve seen enough of him and should try other options.

Can't think of too many!

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:25 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:08 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 am Ewels has been better recently. He’s got the best part of 30 caps, seemingly because he looks like a central casting English lock, and his only contribution of note was spurring England on to their most intense performance in a fair while courtesy of being sent off.

We justifiably expect higher standards from our second rows, and IMO we’ve seen enough of him and should try other options.

Can't think of too many!

Launch? Chessum jnr?