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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:20 pm
by Tichtheid
Whatever happens now this game has been far from ruined
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:21 pm
by sockwithaticket
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:33 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:30 pm
I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:26 pm
Have to change to the 20 minute and substitution red card now. Game ruined.
Nah. Seen too many games with a red, even an early one, go down to the wire or even result in the team a man down winning.
It's only game over when there's a quality gulf between the teams and I don't think there is here.
Not this nonsense again…
*Ahem*
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:21 pm
by Tichtheid
Underhill has really brought the biff today
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:29 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Really? Much warmer here.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:30 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:30 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:30 pm
I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:26 pm
Have to change to the 20 minute and substitution red card now. Game ruined.
Nah. Seen too many games with a red, even an early one, go down to the wire or even result in the team a man down winning.
It's only game over when there's a quality gulf between the teams and I don't think there is here.
On a pitch with this width and the manner both these sides play, this will be a blow out at 20+ now.
Well, for the sake of my FR pick, I'll be happy to wear this one
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:30 pm
by sockwithaticket
It's 16 where I am (Surrey/Hampshire border), according to the Met website 18 is the high in Richmond today.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:31 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:30 pm
It's 16 where I am (Surrey/Hampshire border), according to the Met website 18 is the high in Richmond today.
Met Office had 17C here but it's 20C on the thermometer.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:41 pm
by sockwithaticket
Mitchell's tap and go there was mad. Completely the wrong decision.
Bruce Craig's boy looks like a real mini me.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:44 pm
by Oxbow
Get the fuck in!
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:46 pm
by sockwithaticket
Redemption for Mitchell. What a run by Hendy.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:47 pm
by geordie_6
Great work from Hendy for the try.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:48 pm
by Oxbow
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:46 pm
Redemption for Mitchell. What a run by Hendy.
Runs like a drunk giraffe, but he's electric once he gets going.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:52 pm
by Torquemada 1420
What was Redpath thinking there?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:52 pm
by sockwithaticket
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:52 pm
What was Redpath thinking there?
Complete brain fade.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:54 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Russell to kick it dead.........
{EDIT} Russell not to kick it at all?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:55 pm
by Tichtheid
Well done Saints, bit of a nailr-biter
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:56 pm
by Oxbow
Unlucky Bath, we were dog shit today and I think you would have won that but for the red card.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:57 pm
by Big D
Bath let down by a player not being able to keep his head.
The law isn't the problem. The player is.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:57 pm
by Oxbow
Having said that, fuck it, we're champions! So pleased for people like Lawes and Waller.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:58 pm
by sockwithaticket
Saints did enough and it's probably just reward for being the best team in the regular season.
Bath ran them bloody close though and their future looks very bright. 2 seasons ago they finished bottom and here they are contesting and almost winning the final.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:35 pm
by SaintK
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:58 pm
Saints did enough and it's probably just reward for being the best team in the regular season.
Bath ran them bloody close though and their future looks very bright. 2 seasons ago they finished bottom and here they are contesting and almost winning the final.
Too bloody close for comfort for this old un
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:38 pm
by Slick
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:21 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:33 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:30 pm
Nah. Seen too many games with a red, even an early one, go down to the wire or even result in the team a man down winning.
It's only game over when there's a quality gulf between the teams and I don't think there is here.
Not this nonsense again…
*Ahem*
Yeeeeaaahhhh, think I’ll take that one on the chin
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:21 pm
by petej
Congrats to Saints. Been fun to watch for a few seasons but real progression this season. Really pleased for vesty and the rest of the Saints coaching set up with a positive attacking philosophy paying off.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:03 pm
by tc27
Happy to see Northampton win but without the card I think Bath take it. Much stronger in the tackle and breakdown.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:14 pm
by Oxbow
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:18 pm
by sockwithaticket
Hopefully F. Smith is alright after coming off in the final yesterday.
Charlie Atkinson's been in at least one Borthwick squad, so maybe him? Furbank to be viewed as emergency fly half cover perhaps.
Don't think Orlando Bailey has had much game time this season thanks to Russell's presence. Louie Johnson is a fetus and plays for Newcastle. Harvey Skinner's a bit meh. Are there other EQP fly halves in the Prem getting any game time?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:31 pm
by Oxbow
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:18 pm
Hopefully F. Smith is alright after coming off in the final yesterday.
He said afterwards it was just cramp, so hopefully he'll be okay.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:40 pm
by sockwithaticket
That's a relief.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:46 pm
by JM2K6
Finally watched the final.
Crikey, not sure I can remember a final where the 9/10 combo were so comprehensively second best and their team still won. Fin Smith was pretty poor, Mitchell extremely poor, but Bath were let down by the drop off outside of Russell.
Swap the halfbacks and this is a thumping.
Huge display by Underhill who probably did not deserve to end on the losing side. But major credit to Furbank, my MOTM, and the other Saints outside backs did not do badly either. Pleased that Saints, best side in the league for most of the season.
On the red card... We saw another great contest, which is nice. Pretty disgusting that Kitson in the guardian tried to make out it wasn't a red card, followed by this abortion in the observer by Aylwin, who has dedicated most of his rugby output to screaming about red cards:
Another final tarnished as Obano’s red card a blight on rugby’s integrity
Northampton also suffer in the reckoning as questions linger over whether they would have won with 15 v 15
Pathetic stuff from absolute dinosaurs waging a campaign in favour of massive headshots
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:23 pm
by Big D
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:46 pm
Finally watched the final.
Crikey, not sure I can remember a final where the 9/10 combo were so comprehensively second best and their team still won. Fin Smith was pretty poor, Mitchell extremely poor, but Bath were let down by the drop off outside of Russell.
Swap the halfbacks and this is a thumping.
Huge display by Underhill who probably did not deserve to end on the losing side. But major credit to Furbank, my MOTM, and the other Saints outside backs did not do badly either. Pleased that Saints, best side in the league for most of the season.
On the red card... We saw another great contest, which is nice. Pretty disgusting that Kitson in the guardian tried to make out it wasn't a red card, followed by this abortion in the observer by Aylwin, who has dedicated most of his rugby output to screaming about red cards:
Another final tarnished as Obano’s red card a blight on rugby’s integrity
Northampton also suffer in the reckoning as questions linger over whether they would have won with 15 v 15
Pathetic stuff from absolute dinosaurs waging a campaign in favour of massive headshots
It's a clear red card. The journos are just looking for clicks at this point.
Seen more people want 20min red cards but that's bollocks too.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:19 pm
by Slick
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:46 pm
Finally watched the final.
Crikey, not sure I can remember a final where the 9/10 combo were so comprehensively second best and their team still won. Fin Smith was pretty poor, Mitchell extremely poor, but Bath were let down by the drop off outside of Russell.
Swap the halfbacks and this is a thumping.
Huge display by Underhill who probably did not deserve to end on the losing side. But major credit to Furbank, my MOTM, and the other Saints outside backs did not do badly either. Pleased that Saints, best side in the league for most of the season.
On the red card... We saw another great contest, which is nice. Pretty disgusting that Kitson in the guardian tried to make out it wasn't a red card, followed by this abortion in the observer by Aylwin, who has dedicated most of his rugby output to screaming about red cards:
Another final tarnished as Obano’s red card a blight on rugby’s integrity
Northampton also suffer in the reckoning as questions linger over whether they would have won with 15 v 15
Pathetic stuff from absolute dinosaurs waging a campaign in favour of massive headshots
See also Walrus
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:42 am
by SaintK
Pleased to see Carpenter, Roebuck and Sleightholme selected.
Langdon misses out.........criminal!!!
England squad to tour Japan and New Zealand
Forwards: F Baxter, D Cole, A Coles, C Cunningham-South, B Curry, T Curry, T Dan, A Dombrandt, B Earl, C Ewels, J George (capt), J Heyes, M Itoje, J Marler, G Martin, G Oghre, B Rodd, E Roots, W Stuart, S Underhill
Backs: J Carpenter, F Dingwall, I Feyi-Waboso, T Freeman, G Furbank, O Lawrence, A Mitchell, L Northmore, H Randall, T Roebuck, H Slade, O Sleightholme, F Smith, M Smith, B Spencer, F Steward
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:45 am
by Oxbow
Must have pissed in Borthwick's cornflakes, he should definitely be on the tour.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:52 am
by Oxbow
Also disappointing that we haven't been able to move on from the likes of Cole, Marler, Stuart and Ewels yet. The tighthead cupboard looks empty.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:58 am
by sockwithaticket
Without Chessum in the mix, lock looks incredibly bare.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:07 pm
by Oxbow
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:58 am
Without Chessum in the mix, lock looks incredibly bare.
Didn't notice that, presume he's injured?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:15 pm
by Margin__Walker
SaintK wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:42 am
Pleased to see Carpenter, Roebuck and Sleightholme selected.
Langdon misses out.........criminal!!!
England squad to tour Japan and New Zealand
Forwards: F Baxter, D Cole, A Coles, C Cunningham-South, B Curry, T Curry, T Dan, A Dombrandt, B Earl, C Ewels, J George (capt), J Heyes, M Itoje, J Marler, G Martin, G Oghre, B Rodd, E Roots, W Stuart, S Underhill
Backs: J Carpenter, F Dingwall, I Feyi-Waboso, T Freeman, G Furbank, O Lawrence, A Mitchell, L Northmore, H Randall, T Roebuck, H Slade, O Sleightholme, F Smith, M Smith, B Spencer, F Steward
Isn't Langdon injured?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:20 pm
by Oxbow
Not sure. He did come off on Saturday with a dodgy arm/shoulder but they kept saying it looked like a stinger and I haven't seen or read anything about it since.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:37 pm
by Margin__Walker
Oxbow wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:20 pm
Not sure. He did come off on Saturday with a dodgy arm/shoulder but they kept saying it looked like a stinger and I haven't seen or read anything about it since.
I'm assuming it's an issue. Can't see him not being involved otherwise.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:52 pm
by sockwithaticket
Oxbow wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:07 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:58 am
Without Chessum in the mix, lock looks incredibly bare.
Didn't notice that, presume he's injured?
Yup, he had surgery at the start of May.
