NPR

inactionman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:00 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:56 pm Both Curry boys are pretty decent carriers TBF.

Some serious momentum off the bench, which is nice. Slade stealing a living is less than ideal, 6-2 practically guaranteeing Marcus at 15, possibly fairly early on, is very daft.

Murley

Really would love to see Atkinson or Ojomoh brought in for 12 sooner rather than later, or Loz even if he's more of a 13 these days

Think Ojomoh could do with a little bit more club rugby first but he's really looking good.

Ovals wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:18 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:00 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:56 pm Both Curry boys are pretty decent carriers TBF.

Some serious momentum off the bench, which is nice. Slade stealing a living is less than ideal, 6-2 practically guaranteeing Marcus at 15, possibly fairly early on, is very daft.

Murley

Really would love to see Atkinson or Ojomoh brought in for 12 sooner rather than later, or Loz even if he's more of a 13 these days

Think Ojomoh could do with a little bit more club rugby first but he's really looking good.

He's played 64 times for Bath - should be enough !

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:15 pm Nah, we've a crop of excellent young props, we just need a year or two more

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:27 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:15 pm Nah, we've a crop of excellent young props, we just need a year or two more

Fin Baxter amazes me. Apart from the fact he looks about 12 he just doesn't seem to have much of a prop build and skinny legs, but he doesn't seem to get moved too often

Premiership Rugby has seen a significant rise in young fans with almost a million new supporters aged 18 to 34 versus 12 months ago.

According to YouGov Profiles, 14.3 million people in the UK hold an interest in Gallagher Premiership Rugby - this represents a sizeable increase of 13% since 2023 - and is the highest level of interest for the past five years.

Whilst increased levels of interest are seen in ALL age bands, the change is being driven by a rapidly accelerating level of interest from younger fans who now make up the second biggest audience cohort.

Research shows that 980,000 fans in the 18-34 range are engaging with Gallagher Premiership Rugby like never before and are fuelling impressive growth, with this age group growing +43% since 2021.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:38 pm The Prem’s social media game, and that of the clubs, is definitely improved which I’m sure helps a lot

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:27 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:15 pm Nah, we've a crop of excellent young props, we just need a year or two more

Fin Baxter amazes me. Apart from the fact he looks about 12 he just doesn't seem to have much of a prop build and skinny legs, but he doesn't seem to get moved too often

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:21 pm I don't know who is going to carry the ball up without getting smashed. England don't have any props.

Same midfield that we know doesn't work is tried again.

Steward as last man in defence. Should be a laugh.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:32 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:21 pm I don't know who is going to carry the ball up without getting smashed. England don't have any props.

Same midfield that we know doesn't work is tried again.

Steward as last man in defence. Should be a laugh.

This, you need two heavy bag carriers in the back row, yes, the Curries carry well, but they're not smash 'em down in full flight or get the ball moving again from a stalled move types, which you need.

Who jumps at the back?

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:08 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:38 pm The Prem’s social media game, and that of the clubs, is definitely improved which I’m sure helps a lot

You mean they've updated the league MySpace page?

inactionman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:02 pm I've only skim-read, but interesting nonetheless.

Premiership Rugby has seen a significant rise in young fans with almost a million new supporters aged 18 to 34 versus 12 months ago.

According to YouGov Profiles, 14.3 million people in the UK hold an interest in Gallagher Premiership Rugby - this represents a sizeable increase of 13% since 2023 - and is the highest level of interest for the past five years.

Whilst increased levels of interest are seen in ALL age bands, the change is being driven by a rapidly accelerating level of interest from younger fans who now make up the second biggest audience cohort.

Research shows that 980,000 fans in the 18-34 range are engaging with Gallagher Premiership Rugby like never before and are fuelling impressive growth, with this age group growing +43% since 2021.

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/conten ... gby-growth

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:39 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:32 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:21 pm I don't know who is going to carry the ball up without getting smashed. England don't have any props.

Same midfield that we know doesn't work is tried again.

Steward as last man in defence. Should be a laugh.

This, you need two heavy bag carriers in the back row, yes, the Curries carry well, but they're not smash 'em down in full flight or get the ball moving again from a stalled move types, which you need.

Who jumps at the back?

Both Curry's jump at Sale if not regularly

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:39 pm If only Ted Hill was any good at the lineout, eh? Eh? Oh.

Leicester Tigers are excited to announce a Performance Partnership with Japanese club, Mitsubishi Sagamihara Dynaboars.

One of twelve teams in Division 1 of Japan Rugby League One, the Dynaboars are coached by Glenn Delaney, who previously coached at Scarlets and London Irish, as well as Nottingham Rugby - another Performance Partnership club with Tigers.

Based in Sagamihara, Japan, the Dynaboars are owned by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.

The partnership will see the two clubs work together in sharing high performance expertise between coaches and staff at senior and academy levels in medical, strength and conditioning, analysis, recruitment and player welfare.

Both clubs will also work together off the field in commercial endeavours, including benchmarking and sharing best practice between the two organisations in commercial, community, marketing and operations functions.

The partnership will be overseen by Talent ID & Recruitment Manager James Wade, who oversees the existing Performance Partnership with Nottingham Rugby and the club’s relationship with rugby clubs and organisations in Leicestershire and beyond to help develop young players on and off the field.

Additionally, players from both clubs will be presented opportunities for loan periods at the alternative club to further their development and offer unrivalled life experience.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:10 am More Leicester news, Cheika's leaving at the end of the season. Didn't realise he was only on a one year deal. Wonder what led him/Tigers/both not to extend. Certainly you'd think that the last thing needed at Welford Rd is more coaching turnover.


Japan partnership is definitely interesting. Surprised Chessum's off. Obviously an exciting adventure for a young man, but I would've thought he'd be included in Tigers' first team by now. He always looked a cut above in the England U20s.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:10 am More Leicester news, Cheika's leaving at the end of the season. Didn't realise he was only on a one year deal. Wonder what led him/Tigers/both not to extend. Certainly you'd think that the last thing needed at Welford Rd is more coaching turnover.


Japan partnership is definitely interesting. Surprised Chessum's off. Obviously an exciting adventure for a young man, but I would've thought he'd be included in Tigers' first team by now. He always looked a cut above in the England U20s.

Brazil wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:26 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:10 am More Leicester news, Cheika's leaving at the end of the season. Didn't realise he was only on a one year deal. Wonder what led him/Tigers/both not to extend. Certainly you'd think that the last thing needed at Welford Rd is more coaching turnover.


Japan partnership is definitely interesting. Surprised Chessum's off. Obviously an exciting adventure for a young man, but I would've thought he'd be included in Tigers' first team by now. He always looked a cut above in the England U20s.

His missus didn't want to come over and live in Leicester, which is fair enough, at least until you realise she's a woman who's volunteered to wake up next to Michael Cheika for the rest of her life.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:10 am More Leicester news, Cheika's leaving at the end of the season. Didn't realise he was only on a one year deal. Wonder what led him/Tigers/both not to extend. Certainly you'd think that the last thing needed at Welford Rd is more coaching turnover.


Japan partnership is definitely interesting. Surprised Chessum's off. Obviously an exciting adventure for a young man, but I would've thought he'd be included in Tigers' first team by now. He always looked a cut above in the England U20s.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:05 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:10 am More Leicester news, Cheika's leaving at the end of the season. Didn't realise he was only on a one year deal. Wonder what led him/Tigers/both not to extend. Certainly you'd think that the last thing needed at Welford Rd is more coaching turnover.


Japan partnership is definitely interesting. Surprised Chessum's off. Obviously an exciting adventure for a young man, but I would've thought he'd be included in Tigers' first team by now. He always looked a cut above in the England U20s.

Leicester should ask the RFU if they can have Borthwick back. I'll even drive him there for them.

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:07 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:05 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:10 am More Leicester news, Cheika's leaving at the end of the season. Didn't realise he was only on a one year deal. Wonder what led him/Tigers/both not to extend. Certainly you'd think that the last thing needed at Welford Rd is more coaching turnover.


Japan partnership is definitely interesting. Surprised Chessum's off. Obviously an exciting adventure for a young man, but I would've thought he'd be included in Tigers' first team by now. He always looked a cut above in the England U20s.

Leicester should ask the RFU if they can have Borthwick back. I'll even drive him there for them.

.............and take Wigglesworth back with him

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:03 pm To no-one's great surprise, Lancaster has left Racing

Anyone else think he might do a useful job somewhere - but not head coach - within the England camp? He's got many very good qualities, although dealing with the whole Sam Burgess thing was sadly not one of them.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:16 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:03 pm To no-one's great surprise, Lancaster has left Racing

Anyone else think he might do a useful job somewhere - but not head coach - within the England camp? He's got many very good qualities, although dealing with the whole Sam Burgess thing was sadly not one of them.

Him and Borthwick you’d imagine could work quite well together.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:18 pm His own son notwithstanding, youth talent identification and development seems to be his forte. Get him back involved in the age groups and pathways in some capacity. Supposedly it was part of his remit while England head coach and it was working really well until Dean Ryan took a great steaming shite on the whole thing.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:31 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:18 pm His own son notwithstanding, youth talent identification and development seems to be his forte. Get him back involved in the age groups and pathways in some capacity. Supposedly it was part of his remit while England head coach and it was working really well until Dean Ryan took a great steaming shite on the whole thing.

What job were you doing 20 years ago? Would you take a pay-cut to do it again?

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:44 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:31 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:18 pm His own son notwithstanding, youth talent identification and development seems to be his forte. Get him back involved in the age groups and pathways in some capacity. Supposedly it was part of his remit while England head coach and it was working really well until Dean Ryan took a great steaming shite on the whole thing.

What job were you doing 20 years ago? Would you take a pay-cut to do it again?

A pay cut's a little bit of a different thing when you're still going to be in 6 figure territory. It's not quite going from median to near enough minimum wage.

Equally, there aren't that many head roles in rugby. If you start to rack up some failures or firings it becomes increasingly difficult to take one unless it's for a tier 2 nation like Canada or USA. I daresay a less, though still fairly, senior role at the RFU pays better than that. He might not be there yet, but if he takes the Munster or Leicester jobs and it doesn't work out, following the Andy Robinson or Kingsley Jones route starts to beckon.

inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:47 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:44 pm

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:31 pm



What job were you doing 20 years ago? Would you take a pay-cut to do it again?

A pay cut's a little bit of a different thing when you're still going to be in 6 figure territory. It's not quite going from median to near enough minimum wage.

Equally, there aren't that many head roles in rugby. If you start to rack up some failures or firings it becomes increasingly difficult to take one unless it's for a tier 2 nation like Canada or USA. I daresay a less, though still fairly, senior role at the RFU pays better than that. He might not be there yet, but if he takes the Munster or Leicester jobs and it doesn't work out, following the Andy Robinson or Kingsley Jones route starts to beckon.

It seems to be working for Lee Blackett, although he had the head coaching gig pulled from under him by Wasps going into administration.

Andy Robison is working as the Head Academy coach at Bath at the moment.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:44 pm A pay cut's a little bit of a different thing when you're still going to be in 6 figure territory. It's not quite going from median to near enough minimum wage.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:34 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:44 pm A pay cut's a little bit of a different thing when you're still going to be in 6 figure territory. It's not quite going from median to near enough minimum wage.

This is bizarre naivety even by your usual standards.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:19 am I was en route to and at a gig during the game. Is there any point in watching the match back? From what I've been reading it was a fairly typical mixed bag Borthwick's England performance.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:19 am I was en route to and at a gig during the game. Is there any point in watching the match back? From what I've been reading it was a fairly typical mixed bag Borthwick's England performance.