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Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:27 am
by boere wors
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:07 am Dupont possibly being out changes everything. France are pretty bang average without his threat perceived or otherwise. It's become a must win for both of us because despite guy et al refusing to show us their knickers NZ are by far a greater threat with Dupont out of the equation
Why a must win? The loser will most likely become second and play France, who will still go through topping their Pool.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:40 am
by boere wors
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:33 am Fair point. I have a cold. It's a must lose
:lol:

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:42 am
by boere wors
Go Springbo... go Oireland!!!

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:45 am
by boere wors
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:43 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:42 am Go Springbo... go Oireland!!!
:lol: That 7-1 split is genius
All part of the Rasnaber Masterplan

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:46 am
by OomStruisbaai
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:40 am
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:33 am Fair point. I have a cold. It's a must lose
:lol:
:lol:

So this match change to a practise match.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:48 am
by Gumboot
Never seen the Saffer fans so confident. It's in the bag.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:50 am
by Sards
EnergiseR2 wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:12 pm
Sards wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:43 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:32 pm The man of the house? No self-respecting man puts coke in their drink, it's for children.

Just buy decent brandy instead, or really buy whisky, or, if you must, whiskey.
Why get pissed quickly. Generally our weather is s lot hotter here. When we drink we are quenching a thirst foremost. So we gooi some coke and ice to cool the drink down. Later some, like myself go neat. But Generally it tastes like cool drink with a bietjie by. So we just go with the flow. Where you are you need to warm your body up. Quickly.
Most Fridays we have friends around. Ice is paramount. Always bags in the freezer. Everything goes with ice. And coke.
Sards have you ever killed a man? Looked him straight in the eye and gunned him down?
No. I cannot do that. In the Angolan war I was an Ops Medic. Went along with the Bats , intelligence etc. To give primary care in the field. I have held many a man that has passed on. The Branners and coke with ice after a hard day at the cassavac points was a refreshing relief.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 am
by boere wors
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:46 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:40 am
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:33 am Fair point. I have a cold. It's a must lose
:lol:
:lol:

So this match change to a practise match.
I have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now :lol:

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 am
by OomStruisbaai
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:46 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:40 am

:lol:
:lol:

So this match change to a practise match.
I have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now :lol:
I am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:58 am
by Sards
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:27 pm
Sards wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:43 pm Why get pissed quickly. Generally our weather is s lot hotter here. When we drink we are quenching a thirst foremost. So we gooi some coke and ice to cool the drink down. Later some, like myself go neat. But Generally it tastes like cool drink with a bietjie by. So we just go with the flow. Where you are you need to warm your body up. Quickly.
Most Fridays we have friends around. Ice is paramount. Always bags in the freezer. Everything goes with ice. And coke.

So add tonic to your gin or vodka along with ice. Or if it's hot enough add ice to brandy or whisky. Just don't add sweet gunky crap
I have my favorite brandy sipping glasses which I can barely fit 2 blocks of ice. But thats for my 10 year old KWV. A couple of sips and its gone.
My 3 year old KWV I enjoy with coke and ice. Fill it into my skull mug and thats my kuier dop. At least I can spend some time enjoying it before I need a refill. Also the mugs insulated so the ice lasts longer. The measure is 2 Tots to start. After that its no measure. Just Gooi.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:02 am
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:46 am

:lol:

So this match change to a practise match.
I have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now :lol:
I am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.
I am glad I am not the only one more conderned about the ABs than the French in the quarters

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:04 am
by boere wors
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:46 am

:lol:

So this match change to a practise match.
I have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now :lol:
I am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.
Hence a must lose. To avoid them. They most likely will stay 2nd in their group. That is the joke.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:39 am
by average joe
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:04 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 am
I have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now :lol:
I am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.
Hence a must lose. To avoid them. They most likely will stay 2nd in their group. That is the joke.
Again, what makes you so certain we'll go through anyways? I've tried to explain it to you before. We have to win this match to put it beyond doubt.

Ireland: Played 2 Won 2 10 points with +117
SA: Played 2 Won 2 9 points with +91
Scotland: Played 1 Lost 1 0 points with -15

We only have Tonga to play after this match. My bet is it's going to be tighter than Romania.
Ireland has Scotland.
Scotland still has Tonga, Romania and then Ireland.

Ireland beats us and it leaves Scotland with a chance. Hard to say who wins between them when a desperate Scotland is given a last bit of hope. If Scotland beats them, we're all on played 4 won 3 lost 1. Even Stevens and what then? All of a sudden, it's about points. My bet is Scotland's match against Romania will be another blowout. Chances are it's a bigger scoreline than ours. You want the Boks to be like Bafana? Hoping Senegal beats Ivory Coast or some such so we can go through?

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:36 am
by boere wors
average joe wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:39 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:04 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 am
I am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.
Hence a must lose. To avoid them. They most likely will stay 2nd in their group. That is the joke.
Again, what makes you so certain we'll go through anyways?
The same that made you so certain we will beat Scotland.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:48 am
by boere wors
And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:38 am
by Sards
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:48 am And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.
If we get a losing BP we are grand no matter what happens

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:44 am
by OomStruisbaai
Sards wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:38 am
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:48 am And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.
If we get a losing BP we are grand no matter what happens
and/or 4 tries.

The 3 more tries bonus point rule is much better.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:45 am
by Sards
The way I understand it. Rassie has planned this down to a T. If he was given the choice of a quarter between the ABs or France and he could choose by manipulating results, I am sure he would.
Mind. He has been acting a bit arrogant lately. Maybe his personality wants him to smash whoever is put in front of him.

All I know is that this weekends 7-1 split is being done with a completely new backline from the backline that took the ABs apart. This backline is set to defend. Not attack. The Attack is coming through the forwards.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:48 am
by OomStruisbaai
Gumboot wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:48 am Never seen the Saffer fans so confident. It's in the bag.
You Kiwis like to throw this line out. We know the Irish way to well, vok we play in the same URC competition. We cant be confident, no vokken way. The Irish are nr 1 now for a long time and we will need to be at our best to beat them.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:49 am
by OomStruisbaai
Sards wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:45 am The way I understand it. Rassie has planned this down to a T. If he was given the choice of a quarter between the ABs or France and he could choose by manipulating results, I am sure he would.
Mind. He has been acting a bit arrogant lately. Maybe his personality wants him to smash whoever is put in front of him.

All I know is that this weekends 7-1 split is being done with a completely new backline from the backline that took the ABs apart. This backline is set to defend. Not attack. The Attack is coming through the forwards.
Ox explain it all in a detailed report.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:38 am
by average joe
boere wors wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:48 am And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.
You need all the figures to do the math. Ireland has 2 BP, we have 1 and Scotland 0. We get a losing BP here we have 2. Do you think Scotland can't pick up 2 against Tonga and Romania? A very large part of winning in rugby is phycological. We lose against the Irish and the Scots knows exactly what they'll need to do in the next three matches. Ireland win or lose will be through and can focus on the 1/4 finals. You have a relaxed Ireland against a desperate Scotland.

Will you bet your house and everything you own on it? I won't, we win this, and we don't need to stress about what others will do. We don't win and we have to put Tonga to the sword and hope the Scots don't do the same and thrash an already demoralized no hope Romania.

Now if you're telling me your confident we'll win this, like I did with the Scots, I'm with you but this is not a nothing match, it's the biggest match of the group games for us and all is still on the line.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:06 pm
by Sards
Everyone chill. The match is tomorrow. Then we find out

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:49 pm
by troglodiet
They can just as well put the winner of this match's name on the WWE trophy after the game.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:27 pm
by Sards
troglodiet wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:49 pm They can just as well put the winner of this match's name on the WWE trophy after the game.
That's deep Trogs.
Yoh.....

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:31 pm
by _Os_
This is good on Pollard's defence compared to Libbok's:
https://analystgus.substack.com/p/the-i ... springboks

Libbok offering a lot more speed to disrupt opponents on defence and cover tackle. Weaker than Pollard defending in the line. Reckon Ireland are going to attack the inside of Libbok, they're good at stacking runners and attacking close in using inside passes.

Boks are now about 3 or 4 point favourites. The consensus is a close match. To me it looks more likely that one side imposes their game plan or the other does and wins well, Ireland and the Boks haven't played enough to call which side with confidence (obviously I'm backing the Boks).

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:49 pm
by _Os_
RasNaber's secret plan to turn Snyman into a scrumhalf. Snyman will be selected at 9 and physically carry Faf around to perform the plays.


Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:32 pm
by OomStruisbaai
So we have our St Patrick's day on Sunday. I still have some Springbok in the freezer. Will it be Springbok potjie or Irish Stew potjie?

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:09 pm
by Gumboot
The RWC site has the kick-off time as 8am here in New Zealand...but we'll change to daylight saving time at 2am. So, does anyone know if the listed kick-off time takes that into account? Getting up early on a Sunday is already against my religion, so I really don't want to get up even earlier than I need to, if I can avoid it.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:29 pm
by Guy Smiley
Gumboot wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:09 pm The RWC site has the kick-off time as 8am here in New Zealand...but we'll change to daylight saving time at 2am. So, does anyone know if the listed kick-off time takes that into account? Getting up early on a Sunday is already against my religion, so I really don't want to get up even earlier than I need to, if I can avoid it.
I've made a countdown clock :thumbup:

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/f ... font=serif

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:06 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
_Os_ wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:20 pm
When did we all laugh at Bakkies? :lol:

Image

Also fwiw I don't think anyone is yelling at anyone to wear a suit, not really any day of the week anymore, and certainly not on a Saturday. These days I've seen people turn up to weddings dressed in casual, so no need to be perturbed by the local youth not wearing suits on the weekend

Whereas drinking coke remains puerile. I would claim it's also markedly unhealthy, but seeing as I'd happily drink a bottle of whisky sans coke the health argument would be on sketchy grounds

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:26 am
by _Os_
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:06 pm Also fwiw I don't think anyone is yelling at anyone to wear a suit, not really any day of the week anymore, and certainly not on a Saturday. These days I've seen people turn up to weddings dressed in casual, so no need to be perturbed by the local youth not wearing suits on the weekend
Exactly, no one is going to tell English hooligans to dress smarter. Anyone aware would avoid a group of men wearing those brands on match day, and as you say being slovenly is culturally acceptable and normal to the English. The cultural context matters.
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:06 pm Whereas drinking coke remains puerile. I would claim it's also markedly unhealthy, but seeing as I'd happily drink a bottle of whisky sans coke the health argument would be on sketchy grounds

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:55 am
by Sards
_Os_ wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:26 am
I actually Googled that. We have a Buffelsfontein game farm up the road a bit. Not so.
Based in Pretoria. A guy that used to make beard oil started a distillery.
Last night it was gin cocktails as it was quite warm. Whilst digging around in my bar for combinations I found a KWV 10 year old still in the box. Probably a couple of years old.
I am not phased about collecting drinks. It's like my knives. You don't have them to keep in a box to retain the value. I use them. Sharpen them and cut with them. Some collectors would be horrified. Same with alcohol. Invariably I got it as a gift at some point but there's no emotional attachment.
So if you are digging in there and find something special in a box I open it.
Anyway. I am going to enjoy that 10 year old this afternoon. On ice.
After the Springboks victory
Might even get a cigar. Just to be correct for Rhubarb

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:15 am
by Calculon
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:06 pm
_Os_ wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:20 pm
When did we all laugh at Bakkies? :lol:

Image

Also fwiw I don't think anyone is yelling at anyone to wear a suit, not really any day of the week anymore, and certainly not on a Saturday. These days I've seen people turn up to weddings dressed in casual, so no need to be perturbed by the local youth not wearing suits on the weekend

Whereas drinking coke remains puerile. I would claim it's also markedly unhealthy, but seeing as I'd happily drink a bottle of whisky sans coke the health argument would be on sketchy grounds
Wat? I hardly ever drink coca cola myself but this is the first time I've seen anyone claim drinking it is "peurile". Maybe it's an English thing? On the other hand, my dad thinks eating crisps is puerile which I can kinda see, but they're very popular even amongst adults in the UK.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:23 am
by troglodiet
Sards wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:27 pm
troglodiet wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:49 pm They can just as well put the winner of this match's name on the WWE trophy after the game.
That's deep Trogs.
Yoh.....

Ek's so diep soos 'n pispot met 'n afgeroesde bodem.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:30 am
by Gumboot
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:29 pmI've made a countdown clock :thumbup:

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/f ... font=serif
:thumbup:

Still no guarantee I'll get it right, mind. :lol:

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:56 am
by Guy Smiley
:lol:

I actually started to post an interpretation guide that would have included the right time to get up and tune in…

but I got confused and chickened out :lol:

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 am
by Rhubarb & Custard
_Os_ wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:26 am
Exactly, no one is going to tell English hooligans to dress smarter. Anyone aware would avoid a group of men wearing those brands on match day, and as you say being slovenly is culturally acceptable and normal to the English. The cultural context matters.
So in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:17 am
by Sards
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 am
_Os_ wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:26 am
Exactly, no one is going to tell English hooligans to dress smarter. Anyone aware would avoid a group of men wearing those brands on match day, and as you say being slovenly is culturally acceptable and normal to the English. The cultural context matters.
So in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough
Dude. No one likes a snob. Deal with it. Coke Zero. No sugar.
You really don't understand how cultivated the Saffer dad bod is. We take care.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:45 am
by Gumboot
Sards wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:17 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 am
_Os_ wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:26 am
Exactly, no one is going to tell English hooligans to dress smarter. Anyone aware would avoid a group of men wearing those brands on match day, and as you say being slovenly is culturally acceptable and normal to the English. The cultural context matters.
So in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough
Dude. No one likes a snob. Deal with it. Coke Zero. No sugar.
You really don't understand how cultivated the Saffer dad bod is. We take care.
Coke Anything is disgusting. I'd rather drink bong water.

Re: RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:56 am
by Calculon
Sards wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:17 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 am
_Os_ wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:26 am
Exactly, no one is going to tell English hooligans to dress smarter. Anyone aware would avoid a group of men wearing those brands on match day, and as you say being slovenly is culturally acceptable and normal to the English. The cultural context matters.
So in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough
Dude. No one likes a snob. Deal with it. Coke Zero. No sugar.
You really don't understand how cultivated the Saffer dad bod is. We take care.
It's such a bizarre thing to be a snob about thought. In my experience countries with hot climates, Islamic countries and places with spicy cuisines enjoy sweet drinks. Some of sweetest drinks I've had have been given to me by Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese . Often as an antidote to spicy dishes. In Sudan the national drink is tea, with enough sugar added to saturate it and form a layer on the bottom of the glass. Anyway, a brandy and coke is going to have less than half the amount of sugar of a glass of orange juice.